you wear the collar and call yourself a man of peace and you want ME to go kill whoever you deem as bad....
why do you think you know all those people sadam actually killed didn't need killin'
it wasn't 1.4 mill Iraqi's...
and the Iranians? some of them are still "in need"
clinton dundid a real bad thing in Waco...why ain't he in jail? he oughta be for that IMO....
and? the mean Banker President that took all the cocaine money in Panamamama? he needed removin' too, right? never mind that he lived in a sovereign nation...nope no sovereignity anymore nohowz... we got us a free-for all.. just walk into america and have whatever you want....
so just point out the bad guy mister preacher man... heck i'm good with a rifle.....
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He, Leroy, do that thar be anuthur o' them laoded questions? Sho looks to me that itiz.
May he's be too shoat sighted ta know what one o them ez? What with all thet thar expensev high f'lootin education and he can't see't....my, my, my.
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Hey Glass you're the one advocating killing.
"why do think you know all those people sadam actually killed didn't need killin'"
yeah that's what Hitler said Glass. I know those folks didn't need killing because no one needs killing. Read UNESCO's report in the journal I recommended, then we can talk peace-building. Just as you asked me to "do my homework" last night Glass.
Those folks you mentioned don't need killed, they need long-term incarceration, but killing is wrong.
"Yep, it came. Call it spent.
He, Leroy, do that thar be anuthur o' them laoded questions? Sho looks to me that itiz.
May he's be too shoat sighted ta know what one o them ez? What with all thet thar expensev high f'lootin education and he can't see't....my, my, my."
And you were an educator. That's sad grammar bdgee. Must be how you missed my point.
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Guys, I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with wide splatter, double-barrel, sawed-off shotgun at 10 feet and I wouldn't pick up a gun to kill anyone if it were to save myself. But I would and have defended others. Killing people is wrong, killing pheasant, that's tasty.
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Griffon, there are some.. in fact many who need to be killed in this world. Hoping for an easy way out never gets one anywhere. There is true evil in this world.. and a warm hug and all the understanding you can muster will not fix it.
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I didn't miss your point. I spotted it way back when you showed up declaring we need to adore you.
Now if you want, I can teach you things about grammer you never imagined. (On second thought, maybe not.....can't get blood out of a turnip.)
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"Griffon, I distinctly remember your advocating "pulling 'em out of their holes."
Yes I did and in the next phrase I said for trial or some such thing. When I was a wee lad, I agreed with capital punishment, but as I've aged, I have changed.
That might be a good way to head with this thread: what do you all think of capital punishment?
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"Now if you want, I can teach you things about grammer you never imagined."
I'm sure you can bdgee. Was that your subject? I can speak well, write conversationally, but my grammar is down-right comical at times.
"I spotted it way back when you showed up declaring we need to adore you."
Nope, never said that. Don't believe that. I don't mind being used up and thrown away. You're born, you grow, you work, you live, you die and all we are is dust in the wind. Hey that sounds like a song.
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Better be careful, Griffon, you go to talking against capital puinishment, they'll be asking for you to return you membership card in the George W. for Saint club.
Then they'll stop sending you the weekly talking points directives and you'll be left to finding your own argumnents and witty wordings.
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"Yes I did and in the next phrase I said for trial or some such thing. When I was a wee lad, I agreed with capital punishment, but as I've aged, I have changed."
ok, for trial...
lol, this is *exactly* why folks perceive you as dodgin'. Glass's point was you are willing to have him (us, whatever) do the killing for ya...
Well, I'm gonna go "get 'em" for trial...chances are? will be killin' along the way... eggs? omletes? etc...
killin' some folks is as necessary--if as distasteful--as putting down rabid dogs. No joy in it...just a nasty job to be done.
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"Better be careful, Griffon, you go to talking against capital puinishment, they'll be asking for you to return you membership card in the George W. for Saint club.
Cute bdgee. But no one who applies for sinthood is ever worthy. And my witty wordings seem to interest you to no end so why get someone else's material.
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Ok, ok, so those aren't your precise words.
And ok, it was your brother that specified that we were obliged to kiss your feet and tell you how much we need your brilliant mind to tell us poor dummies how to think.
But you sure did accept it whole heartedly as a fact and and start preaching how worthy you are.
Now, how many years did it take you to get that hi high degree that is clearly out of reach of us dodos?
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No, sorry, you failed that test. i did not say anything you have said is original or witty. I said that AFTER your supply is removed.....
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"Well, I'm gonna go "get 'em" for trial...chances are? will be killin' along the way... eggs? omletes? etc... killin' some folks is as necessary--if as distasteful--as putting down rabid dogs. No joy in it...just a nasty job to be done."
My only point of contention is that it is too quick. Let me tell you for instance what I THINK (not know) should be done when we catch terrorists:
They should go to trial immediately and if found guilty they should be put in a prison where they are told every hour, you are sitting here and everyone knows you failed in your mission; the organization you fought for is losing and you are anonymous enjoying a peaceful, non-violent incarceration while your cause goes without your help. You will sit and rot, no martyrdom, no however many young women. Just an anonymous prisoner that will live long while his organization dies off heroically. Every day as long as they live.
I do not believe in killing as I said, and I do not leave anyone to do the killing.
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geez griffon, if the terrorists captured you, do you think that they would spend the time that it takes to have an intellectual battle of wits with you? no, they would simply behead you.
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"Now, how many years did it take you to get that hi high degree that is clearly out of reach of us dodos?"
Never said any of this either. Contrary to your opinion, I respect anyone who posts on here. To share your personal beliefs is a brave thing.
"But you sure did accept it whole heartedly as a fact and and start preaching how worthy you are."
Didn't do this either bdgee. I engaged in conversation as you all have done. I explained my credentials because I have worked hard to amass 200+ undergrad and 110 graduate credits. That you presume I think I'm superior based upon my studies is incorrect. A person is not made by intelligence. A person is not made by party. A person is not made by religion. But we are all products of these and more influences. Would you not agree?
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"Yeah, so why is it, then, that when we said exactly that, you and your brother (so claimed) declared it to be "Bush bashing"?"
Because you put in the context of his intellect. You said it in the context of Bush being a heinous person. Imagine if you were spoken about in such a manner and one of your relatives saw the ridicule you received.
You assumed I was opposed to trial for terrorists, why do you think I said I oppose GITMO? For that matter, why do you think I wanted to buy Saddam off into exile? We would not even necessarily be in Iraq now, if we had tried that avenue. All violence gets is more violence, a quick victory and uneasy peace because of bitter feelings that erupt as soon as possible.
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"Yeah ya did. And I could chase down the post and prove it, but I'm simply too lazy."
Nope, never happened. Bdgee I simply do not say that type of stuff. That may be what you inferred from my words but that's not what I ever said or meant.
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So called brother Bdgee? Why on earth would we feel the need to lie about that? I'm sure if you saw us you'd figure it out. Both bald as cue balls!
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Griffon said: All violence gets is more violence, a quick victory and uneasy peace because of bitter feelings that erupt as soon as possible.
with that said, do you think you could use your influence with the Almighty to help some of us poor slobs pick out a runner or a gapper tomorrow am? you can find out the definitions to these terms in the general investment topics if necessary. thanks in advance.
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