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glassman
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am writing this freshly because I need to edit out the academic jargon.

gorsh, yew'd do dat jes fer widdle ol' moi?

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This in turn makes the indigenous peoples susceptable to a charismatic movement claiming (sometimes genuinely) to recapture their "authentic" identity. More in a minute


you mean like Ghandi and his hobby of spinning and weaving his OWN cloth even tho it was outlawed by the Brits?

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You are a bit early..
Words or intents the likes of yours will fail to hold sway for atleast another century.
You do not live in a world that is ready for peace of any sort other than brief.

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
am writing this freshly because I need to edit out the academic jargon.

gorsh, yew'd do dat jes fer widdle ol' moi?

[Big Grin]

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don't be too harsh on him DQR...
if he's been to the mass graves? he's seen the devil's footprints...

but i think the numbers are a but high... the most i can find coroboration on is about 140 thousand....

sadam is more like a mid level demon than a real devil...

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"mercantilism, colonialism and Cold War."

weee...

textbooks!

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Don't be harsh?
I know not these words you say as they are quite foriegn to me...
LOL... I thought I was being nice?

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I'm sort of partial to academic jargon.
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Ahhh hell here we go.. who let bdgee out?

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I propose that the principle factors of destabilization are found in the systemic flaws in the human institutions of mercantilism, colonialism and Cold War. These political and economic systems degraded relations between "tribes" and/or nations. This exascerbated primal ethnocentric/ethnophobic tensions between tribes and/or nations.


in other words? when Alexander decided to advertise his "potency" by puttin' his face on gold and silver coins to advertise his leadership abilties (pretty face) around the coutryside, he destroyed the trust built up over millenia within local barter systems...

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lol
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Oh, I forgot, some are not up to it.

Sorry.

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Tex-
yeah well my brother got all the brains but I got all the..... I got all..... all the a .........
Hey I didn't get a dang thing!!!!!

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nobody thinks you are hydraulically challenged JW [Big Grin]

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This underlying vulnerability is causitive of the instability we label "terrorism." Let me offer a helpful solution that has worked in Palestine and Lebanon for Hamas and Hezbollah.

My suggestion is that Western powers (France, Britain, Spain, Portugal, Belgium, Japan) enforce the long-served notice that the world community will not tolerate murdering and torturing the nationals you are responsible for. Our tuck tailed approach to Somalia has emboldened thugs around the world to kill and maim population groups. The US and Russia would have to supply financial resources too. In short, Western powers have to address the wounds and especially the leaders that have exploited tribes and we must provide the economic means, not labor or design assistance, for those nations to develop indigenous structures and cultural awareness that is faithful to who those particular ethnic groups are.

No more fake countries of conflicting ethnic groups compressed together until hatred boils over: Yugoslavia, Iraq, Kashmir, Rwanda and Burundi to name a few(Though the ethnic intolerance in the last two is based on a fabrication of Belgium to keep the "natives" in line).

In order to effect this transfer of intellectual power, using Iraq as a model, I suggest the West provide the means for Iraq to build infrastructure, schools, hospitals. Because there are in effect four primary people groups, (Shia, Sunni, Kurd and Marsh Arab/Pashtu) I suggest four cultural centers are established with the purpose of helping those ethnicities explore and self-define who they are as a people, even if it means the dissolution of the nation state that is the present artificial construct.

I would go further but I think this is enough to chew on at present.

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LOL...

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Guys I have to say, my brother is way too modest. Blessed with a great family, two kids I am proud to call my nephews. He puts up with all my whacky ideas. And he is an excellent fishin' partner. What more could a preacher ask for?

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chomp spit...
nothing left..

you are saying cut Iraq up into four states...

have you asked Turkey or Iran about that?

Turkey calls on U.S., Iraq to crack down on Kurdish guerrillas
By Selcan Hacaoglu
ASSOCIATED PRESS

11:20 a.m. July 17, 2006

ANKARA, Turkey – Turkey called Monday for Iraq and the United States to crack down on Kurdish guerrillas based in northern Iraq, and issued a veiled threat to attack the rebel bases if there is no progress.

The U.S. ambassador to Turkey cautioned against a unilateral attack on the insurgents, who are based in remote mountains in one of the few stable parts of Iraq.


look, i love mankind too..
it's people i can't stand....

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I played college baseball with a guy that was bad at everything he ever tried but one thing.
He could spit with unbelievable accuracy.
He could spit the length of the dugout,
probably close to 40ft, and hit you right on the dot of the i on our jersey's. And he could do it over and over again.
Is there any money in that skill?
He is now the voice of the Peacocks, play by play announcer for Upper Iowa University.

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I think someone skipped too many of their writing classes. The idea is to transfer ideas, not to abuse the language with gross exuberant over expression so you think you sound intellegent, yet have failed any chance of providing information.
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You're forgetting Bdgee, it was rewritten so we could understand.
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Yep, imagine what was there to begin with!
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sheeeesh, i should link that article for you:

The guerrillas, who want autonomy for Turkey's Kurdish-dominated southeast, have killed 15 Turkish security personnel since Thursday in ambushes, roadside bombings and shootings.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20060717-1120-turkey-kurds.html

The guerillas killed seven Turkish soldiers and a village guard Saturday in an attack Turkey said was launched from northern Iraq.

Two Turkish soldiers were wounded Monday near the southeastern town of Tunceli, the private Dogan news agency reported. U.S.-made Cobra helicopters pounded suspected rebel hideouts, while Turkish commandos were airlifted to strategic points along the Iraqi border.

Turkey has hinted before that it could launch a cross-border offensive if Iraq and the United States do not take on the guerrillas.


and i support the Kurds... in Iraq...
Turkey is a Nato ally now, and we are gonna let them join the EU....
the EU...
LOL get it?
WE? let them join?
oh never mind...

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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
Ahhh.. yet another idealist.. this one does seem bright however.

ya...refreshing

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I received this note from Relentless, The Realist.

[Big Grin] LOL

"You said yesterday I seemed almost gleefull about the coming world war..
I am actually.. but not because I want death for millions, and not because I'm a war monger.. But because of what will result from this war.
You as a commie and me as a facist pig want pretty much the same thing.. A new government.
Ours has become way too strong... Not because of bush or any of the others.. but because of our laziness as a people..
The problem now is there is no way votes will correct our government's dirrection.. but a third world war will.
This thing is going to go nuclear and when it does those of us who survive will have a chance to reform into a nation with a small government.
A nation where the key ideals that define a liberal and a so-called conservative are embraced."

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quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
Ahhh.. yet another idealist.. this one does seem bright however.

ya...refreshing


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Words I STILL stand by you witless imposter of anything bipedal.

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quote:
Originally posted by Griffon:
Guys I have to say, my brother is way too modest. Blessed with a great family, two kids I am proud to call my nephews. He puts up with all my whacky ideas. And he is an excellent fishin' partner. What more could a preacher ask for?

lol, you shoulda seen 'im when he first radared...

Duke? tell your bro about DVFN thread?

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And you call others "idealists?" [Big Grin] LOL

quote:
Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
Words I STILL stand by you witless imposter of anything bipedal.



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Well, we HAD a good debate going.
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quote:
Originally posted by Gordon Bennett:
And you call others "idealists?" [Big Grin] LOL

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Originally posted by Relentless Despot.:
Words I STILL stand by you witless imposter of anything bipedal.


I do.. glad you caught that...
Shocked.. but glad none the less.

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(Utopian National Anthem plays)
"....A nation where the key ideals that define a liberal and a so-called conservative are embraced...."
(music swells)

[Big Grin] LOL

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Your awful muted tonight Bdgee. Where's your usual warm hearted enthusiasm mixed with mutual love and respect that you sprinkle through out your posts?

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Yep leo it's over now..

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Yeah Relentless Despot tends to ruin things with his childish ranting, doesn't he?

quote:
Originally posted by Leo:
Well, we HAD a good debate going.



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Wow, I find it sad the education system let you all down. And Glassman, are you suggesting we perpetuate a myth that oppresses and negates four people groups? What I am suggesting is that the four ethnic groups may in the end discover they are better trade partners with their own identity intact.

Bdgee, I fail to see what is difficult to understand: development of market systems, colonialism and Cold War are well-known historical events, much like the genocide President Clintoin accepted in Rwanda, another contrived state.

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