quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: I will not allow your personal problems to become my problems. Keep your personal problems at your home, where they belong.
Your choice.
Taha
ditto
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They were pretty advanced for early cars, this car was in pieces but was all there with 25,000 miles on it we just had to put it back together, that was back in early 80's now that car would be worth a few bucks. It did move along okay really picked up after 50mph, i believe mine was the 3.8 liter engine there was also a 4.2 made that year i think, they did corner great and had those stock wire wheels loved them.
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xke roadster was the best looking car of all time imho. fun to drive when they ran ok (lucas sux). rust issues on these can drive restoration costs through the roof even if they look good from the outside. found a xke coupe 2+2 in AR that is complete and might run, but i think the coupe ruins the car and it would cost a fortune to restore even if you did most of the work yourself. great looking engine for that truck pg. chasing down the odd parts is a lot of fun, especially when no one else has them on their car !
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Lots of fun, 66inxs! Restoring cars makes for good retirement projects, when not taking care of rental homes. * snarls *
The Camaro we helped build for my sister-in-law made it into the ten finalists at the national Reno Hot August nights contest show, last week.
About four-thousand entries, ended up in the top ten but did not win. We believe this is because we did not powder coat the frame and did not powder coat the suspension and axles.
Nonetheless, a source of pride and family fun.
More important, though, projects like this keep good family unity. We all participate in these projects, adding our own unique skills. We have family up in Reno. One of the young boys up there is so very excited. He is about eight or nine now and loves hotrods!
His parents even bought him an old Plymouth "Woodie" to work on. Cannot remember the year model, somewhere in the late forties, I think maybe a 1946 to 1948 year.
Last year our family arranged for him to ride in a full blown funny car in the Reno parade at night. This car is truly a dragster with a fiberglass body. Not for racing, strictly for show. The car has headers straight off the engine pointing up into the air. Fuel injected flame throwers shoot huge orange flames, a good twenty or thirty feet into air. Very spectacular at night, a show stopper.
So our young boy gets to ride, up front, in this car during the parade. A hundred degrees at night up there, probably a hundred-fifty degrees in that funny car. He did not complain at all; nothing but grins and excitement.
Our friend, Kenny, brings his funny car down here for our local Riverside "Old Farts" show. Some of the special kids around here are arranged to ride in the car, you know, kids with medical issues and such.
Ours is not really about cars but rather about maintaining good family unity and family happiness, right on out to our extended family. Projects like this create a common activity which all can enjoy and participate.
Seeing those grins on the faces of the kids, watching them have so much fun, makes all this money we "waste" on show cars, a very valuable investment of money.
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i have to agree that the fun you have in cars is sharing them with others - especially kids. a lot of sweat and work though. 66inxs - the 66 is for the 66 gto i am restoring and inxs - the amount of time, labor, and money sunk into it! inxs is also a good music group. i also chase rare parts so i know how much effort it took to get those parts. i bring mine up to good driver quality cuz i enjoy driving them and don't want to keep them locked in a trailer. car people are usually good family people with good values. now that it has cooled off and rained, i will et the rest of the factory air reinstalled in the gto. those girls look like they are having a blast !
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"Night Moves".... In the summertime..... I awoke last night to sound of thunder'
Started humming a song from 1962' ain't it funny how the night moves When you just don't seem to have much to lose strange how the night moves with autumn closing in...
"here I am on the road again" down periscope---------
somehow hear that sound again... could it be the finely tuned power of a waiting High performance M/C
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And the years rolled slowly past, I found myself alone Surrounded by strangers I thought were my friends I found myself further and further from my home I guess I lost my way, there were oh, so many roads I was livin' to run and runnin' to live Never worrying about paying or how much I owed Movin' eight miles a minute for months at a time Breakin' all of the rules I could bend I began to find myself searchin' Searchin' for shelter again and again
CHORUS (ALL):
Against the wind We were running against the wind I found myself seekin' Shelter against the wind
Just returned from a rental. Home Depot delivered a bunch of lumber. Just finished helping to hand carry several dozen sheets of plywood and lumber from the street to a back garage. Fork lift would not fit down the driveway and through the gates.
Waiting now for an afternoon delivery from Home Depot to our home. Concrete and fencing lumber. We have to carry all this by hand up our hill, a very steep and rugged terrain, littered with boulders and accented with sheer cliffs.
Hmm.. 112 bags of pre-mix at 60 pounds each..
6,720 pounds of concrete to lug up a hillside.
Probably another ton in lumber.
We work out butts off. My husband has a slender tight butt like a teenager. My butt keeps becoming bigger and bigger and bigger, no matter how hard I work. Something ain't right.
In your time the innocence will fall away in your time the mission bells will toll all along the corridors and river beds in your time
Towering waves will crash accross your southern capes massive storms will reach your eastern shores fields of green will tumble thru your summer days by design in your time
Feel the wind and set yourself the bolder course keep your heart as open as a shrine you'll sail the perfect line
And after all the dead ends and the lessons learned after all the stars have turned to stone there'll be peace across the great unbroken void all benign in your time you'll be fine in your time.......
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: We make a great team. He takes "things" apart, I take photographs, he explains what it is, how it works, what he needs, then I find and secure the parts.
Warn hub for the front axles. He needs new gaskets and new securing bolts.
Taha
My wife would say that too.... but then she would add that she has to read me the directions on how to put it back together again. She is my parts girl and price negotiator.
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bikes are nice but i don't trust the drivers of cars to be respectful of the bike. too many horror stories. there is nothing like a bike or a vert about 4 am this time of year on a back road with no traffic or police if you know what i mean. went back to the gym today after a weeks absence and feel like i got kicked in the abs. this too shall pass. btw bob seger rocks for sure !
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"My wife would say that too.... but then she would add that she has to read me the directions on how to put it back together again. She is my parts girl and price negotiator."
Boodog, what really helps us is taking photographs.
Workshop manuals, most often, instruct you how to take something apart, but do not instruct you how to put that thing back together! Workshop manuals are invaluable and we have dozens. However, sometimes, those manuals are not quite enough.
One of my jobs is to photograph everything and constantly. My husband rebuilt a Dana transfer case, and he has worked with those many times. Nonetheless, when finished, we have well over a hundred photographs of every step, start to finish. If need comes about, I can print off a photograph for reference. Nothing better than pictures to guide you when you are not sure.
Eventually, I will load photographs to our website, How To: rebuild a Chevy six, rebuild a truck four speed, rebuild a Dana transfer case, whatever else we do. This will help those who are doing the same types of rebuilds.
Cheap digital camera, a computer, a printer, all make a wonderful workshop manual.
Here is a sample of one of those thousands of pictures, picked at random. I have notes with these this picture, right in the photo but I cropped them out to reduce size. This is, "How to reinstall the main cluster in a SM420 truck four speed."
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go slow, document everything. tear down and rebuild one thing at a time, red manuals and network with others doing the same thing, making your own tools - priceless !
i got it one piece at a time and it didn't cost me a dime the people will know me when i come throught their town
- johnny cash
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He has a fuel injector and a spark plug installed in each header pipe to create flames.
Imagine yourself an eight or ten year old child riding shotgun, car shaking all over the road, rumbling, crackling of the exhaust, spectators wildly screaming and cheering when ten, twenty, thirty feet high flames leap up into the air, imagine the grin on your face as a child going along for a ride down Main Street, USA.
Funny story, a few years back we are all up in Reno for Hot August Nights. We had been drinking, yes, bad, bad. However, traffic only moves along about one mile per hour, honestly. To travel about eight blocks takes an hour.
We are following Kenny in a hot rod T-bucket.
Kenny and kids become hot, sweaty, we all do. He decides to pull over into a casino / hotel so we could cool off, have some more drinks. Big crowd in front of the casino. Kenny pulls up in the valet parking area, which is funny in itself. He shows off, shoots big flames. Not paying attention, his car is sitting right beneath a cloth canopy for the valet parking.
Very soon, here comes the fire trucks, paramedics, police, the whole gang. Kenny set that canopy on fire and the whole thing burned up! He did have enough sense to pull his car out of the way.
Police threaten to arrest the whole lot of us, take names and all that.
Most embarrassing, one of the kids in his car is the son of a well known doctor in Reno. She is with us in the T-bucket. Boy Howdy, does she wig out,
"I cannot have my name in the newspaper! I will lose all my patients!" This is about the time people are taking pictures like crazy.
Of course, being the reserved woman I am, I jumped right out, grinned, flashed my breasts, make sure to get in front of as many cameras as possible. Sophisticated ladies do things like that.
All-in-all, one of the most fun nights we enjoyed in years; just like being no good teenagers again!
The Munchkin Man is beginning to feel like a real oddball here.
For example:
The Munchkin Man does not like to work outside.
The Munchkin Man hates yard work.
The Munchkin Man hates manual labor of any kind.
The Munchkin Man does not like to get his hands dirty.
The Munchkin Man does not like to sweat.
The Munchkin Man has never had an interest in working on cars.
The Munchkin Man has no interest or aptitude in anything mechanical.
The Munchkin Man has never liked outdoor recreational activities such as hunting, camping, fishing, and boating.
The Munchkin Man has never shot a gun in his life, nor does he ever want to.
In contrast, a lot of you seen to enjoy some or most or maybe all of these things.
Instead, the Munchkin Man loves the great indoors, where he can enjoy his air-conditioning, his computer, and his television set.
The Munchkin Man also likes to stay indoors so he can practice his magic tricks and read books about checkers.
The Munchkin Man rents an apartment so he won't have to do yard work or house repairs.
The Munchkin Man prefers an indoor job, preferably one where nobody will yetll at him and hurt his feelings.
The Munchkin Man's ideal vacation is to go stay in a nice hotel in a big city -- such as New York or Las Vegas. You couldn't pay the Munchkin Man to go camping up in the mountains or in the woods.
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xke roadster was the best looking car of all time imho. fun to drive when they ran ok (lucas sux). rust issues on these can drive restoration costs through the roof even if they look good from the outside. found a xke coupe 2+2 in AR that is complete and might run, but i think the coupe ruins the car and it would cost a fortune to restore even if you did most of the work yourself. great looking engine for that truck pg. chasing down the odd parts is a lot of fun, especially when no one else has them on their car !
66inxs, Lucas was bad i was lucky with this jag no electrical problems and no rust. I have found over the years that with the old cars if i have a problem with the electrical it is sometimes easier to get a schematic diagram and rewire it because so many times people have added so many wires to the system. You people sound like you work on cars differently than me my family would clear out when i worked on cars especially when the hammer and torch come out, have you ever noticed that the manufacturer always puts the bolts that have the most torque and tend to rust the most in the hardest to reach areas.
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wiley, is a "brownie" installed in the drivetrain? I remember reading about Brownies in Ken and Barbara Kern's homesteading books...ever run across them?
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quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: Dusty quips,
"dern things were spitting rocks, thats always a good sign to clean the tank...."
Ah, now we know the source of your sea adventures.
Taha
------------------------------------------------- ha ha, an opening! Yes I am an opertunist and defense oriented, then take the advantage into offense..
As most of you know this old Sea Dog is also not Albert Enstien...
Sooo, I have a question for the English Teacher, who has a PHD....I am not sure if I even know what a PHD is..But me thinks ya gotta be smart and work hard to git one..
Taha, in creative writing I bounce all over the map when I get going..I am talking about a book I am writing...I have spoken into my tape recorder, use it like taking notes..
Whoops, I just launched the post, editing now..
Is it grandiose to flip mid sentance to viewing the story line and scene I'm writing to a Movie format..How does one stop that, and concentrate on just the writing...The Book would make one Hell of a Movie, imo.
Staying on course is difficult cause one thought leads to many other roads, then I get overwhelmed and stop writing..
The story is along the lines of an epic, I think..
My greatest fear is that what I think is a great start might not be all that great..
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iwishihad xkes main problems are usually hidden structural rust that is not visable unless you are really knowledgeable about them, electrical problems run rampant in most jags and the 3 webers are hard to keep syncronized. xke roadster is the ultimate toy but finding the right one that is still affordable is hard. i get all the manuals and the sxhematics first, post on websites dedicated to that brand and do some heavy networking with other restorers. general motors does NOT make it easy to take their cars apart. sometimes all you can cut the bolt head off and drill it out after it is apart. u always network before i cut !
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Damn Purl, can you teach my next g/f that documenting with pictures everything I take apart is something a good woman enjoys doing with her man? That's an invaluable system, not only for reference but for memories sake too.
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Dust, what kind of fish you keep? Saltwater? Fresh?
Used to have a flawless Jack Dempsey I raised from a fry, got so big because anything I tried to introduce into "his" 55 gal. tank, he would destroy. Finally had to sell him to a pet store. (I wanted to be able to keep more than one fish...lol) The owner immediately went out and got him a mate and gave them this huge tank. Put a sign on the tank that read "NOT FOR SALE-BREEDING PAIR!"
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"wiley, is a "brownie" installed in the drivetrain?"
I asked about this. A "Brownie" dates back many decades, very popular forties through sixties. A Brownie is a two speed transmission, most often an underdrive and overdrive gear arrangement. These are fitted to two ton and up trucks, very common in eighteen wheeler trucks, long ago.
Underdrive and Overdrive, like a transmission with only first gear and overdrive (like fifth)
Those are coupled, usually, with an eight speed transmission, making for sixteen gears.
This is the arrangement for our old '56 4X4 Chevy.
Eventually, when we drop the engine and driveline into its open frame, I will photograph this for you to see. Open frame means just a rolling frame without the body, bed, fenders, all that.
There are three transmissions. Factory, there are only two transmissions. We had a "Ranger" two speed tranmission custom made. We will use the original General Motors SM420 transmission which is the 175 pound 4 speed with first gear being a "Granny Gear." Following this, a custom adapted Dana 20 tranmission / tranfer case from a Jeep truck, circa 1967 - 1977 years.
The Ranger has two gears. Overdrive is just like overdrive in a car or truck; a very high gear. This one is 33% overdrive, a 1:1.33 ratio. It also has a direct drive which is simply 1:1 ratio, no change.
The SM420 has four gears, with the first gear a Granny Gear, 8 to 1 underdrive; extremely low. Other three gears are just like an ordinary three speed transmission in old pickup trucks.
The Dana 20 is a combination transmission and a transfer case. Two gears, a 2:1 underdrive, fairly low, and direct drive, no change. The transfer part simply means the power can be split to the front axle and to the rear axle or to both axles.
Here is an example. Ranger is in direct. SM420 is in first. Dana is in underdrive.
SM420 is 8:1 reduction, Dana is 2:1 reduction. Net result is a 16:1 reduction. Another way, the engine spins 16 times for every spin of the driveshaft. Add a 4:56 axle gear, you end turning 3,000 rpm and moving 2 miles per hour. Otherwords, floored, fastest you go is 5 mph.
Opposite end is Ranger in overdrive, SM420 in fourth (high gear) and Dana in direct. For one spin of the engine, the driveshaft spins 1.33 times. This is a very high gear, a significant overdrive. At 2,500 rpm the truck will doing about 60 mph.
Here are the possible gear combinations,
(Ranger SM420 Dana)
direct first under direct first direct over first under over first direct
direct second under direct second direct over second under over second direct
direct third under direct third direct over third under over third direct
direct fourth under direct fourth direct over fourth under over fourth direct
direct reverse under direct reverse direct over reverse under over reverse direct
Twenty total gear combinations. Normally we exclude reverse and label this sixteen gears.
The "twin shift" Dana allows for front wheel drive only, rear wheel drive only or all four wheel drive.
Installing twin old fashion parking brakes, this is the old long squeeze handle levers mounted like a floor shift, will allow us to lock up the rear left, causing the truck to "tractor" to the left, or the same for right, resulting in "tractor steering" to the right. This can only be done on slippery stuff, like sand, mud, snow, whatever.
A Warn winch will be on front with an ability to run the cable forward, or under the truck to the rear; pulls in either direction.
Typical "slip box" trailer hitch will be on both front and back bumpers. We can tow a trailer, or turn around push a trailer. This will allow us to hook a trailer to the front bumper, then use the winch to pull heavy items up and onto the trailer, like a car or stump.
Billyray is extending the frame and cab 18 inches. We will have a "extra cab" truck when finished. Gas tank is behind the seat. We picked up another gas tank. The extra length will allow dual tanks behind the seat, total 38 gallon capacity.
Air conditioned, bucket seats, powerful stereo, we are good to go! All those gear shift levers, though, I am not sure, at my age, I am still agile enough to have sex in our truck. We will manage, somehow.
We are designing a truck to use to trailer old cars or show cars. Many old cars, rust buckets, are often out in the boonies, sold as-is and where-is. Those cars do not run, flat tires, trees pushing up through the hood. With a truck like we are building, we can access even the most remote cars in very difficult situations.
The truck will get about 22 to 24 miles per gallon without a trailer. Probably 16 to 18 pulling a loaded trailer.
Slow truck with a six cylinder but will jerk the bumper off your car with the engine simply at idle speed.
We are painting the truck all white with a gray and black interior. Finished oak bed.
Basically, this truck will be a mininature big rig with four wheel drive.
quote:Originally posted by Purl Gurl: "wiley, is a "brownie" installed in the drivetrain?"
I asked about this. A "Brownie" dates back many decades, very popular forties through sixties. A Brownie is a two speed transmission, most often an underdrive and overdrive gear arrangement. These are fitted to two ton and up trucks, very common in eighteen wheeler trucks, long ago.
Underdrive and Overdrive, like a transmission with only first gear and overdrive (like fifth)
Those are coupled, usually, with an eight speed transmission, making for sixteen gears.
This is the arrangement for our old '56 4X4 Chevy.
Eventually, when we drop the engine and driveline into its open frame, I will photograph this for you to see. Open frame means just a rolling frame without the body, bed, fenders, all that.
There are three transmissions. Factory, there are only two transmissions. We had a "Ranger" two speed tranmission custom made. We will use the original General Motors SM420 transmission which is the 175 pound 4 speed with first gear being a "Granny Gear." Following this, a custom adapted Dana 20 tranmission / tranfer case from a Jeep truck, circa 1967 - 1977 years.
The Ranger has two gears. Overdrive is just like overdrive in a car or truck; a very high gear. This one is 33% overdrive, a 1:1.33 ratio. It also has a direct drive which is simply 1:1 ratio, no change.
The SM420 has four gears, with the first gear a Granny Gear, 8 to 1 underdrive; extremely low. Other three gears are just like an ordinary three speed transmission in old pickup trucks.
The Dana 20 is a combination transmission and a transfer case. Two gears, a 2:1 underdrive, fairly low, and direct drive, no change. The transfer part simply means the power can be split to the front axle and to the rear axle or to both axles.
Here is an example. Ranger is in direct. SM420 is in first. Dana is in underdrive.
SM420 is 8:1 reduction, Dana is 2:1 reduction. Net result is a 16:1 reduction. Another way, the engine spins 16 times for every spin of the driveshaft. Add a 4:56 axle gear, you end turning 3,000 rpm and moving 2 miles per hour. Otherwords, floored, fastest you go is 5 mph.
Opposite end is Ranger in overdrive, SM420 in fourth (high gear) and Dana in direct. For one spin of the engine, the driveshaft spins 1.33 times. This is a very high gear, a significant overdrive. At 2,500 rpm the truck will doing about 70 mph.
Here are the possible gear combinations,
(Ranger SM402 Dana)
direct first under direct first direct over first under over first direct
direct second under direct second direct over second under over second direct
direct third under direct third direct over third under over third direct
direct fourth under direct fourth direct over fourth under over fourth direct
direct reverse under direct reverse direct over reverse under over reverse direct
Twenty total gear combinations. Normally we exclude reverse and label this sixteen gears.
The "twin shift" Dana allows for front wheel drive only, rear wheel drive only or all four wheel drive.
Installing twin old fashion parking brakes, this is the old long squeeze handle levers mounted like a floor shift, will allow us to lock up the rear left, causing the truck to "tractor" to the left, or the same for right, resulting in "tractor steering" to the right. This can only be done on slippery stuff, like sand, mud, snow, whatever.
A Warn winch will be on front with an ability to run the cable forward, or under the truck to the rear; pulls in either direction.
Typical "slip box" trailer hitch will be on both front and back bumpers. We can tow a trailer, or turn around push a trailer. This will allow us to hook a trailer to the front bumper, then use the winch to pull heavy items up and onto the trailer, like a car or stump.
Billyray is extending the frame and cab 18 inches. We will have a "extra cab" truck when finished. Gas tank is behind the seat. We picked up another gas tank. The extra length will allow dual tanks behind the seat, total 38 gallon capacity.
Air conditioned, bucket seats, powerful stereo, we are good to go! All those gear shift levers, though, I am not sure, at my age, I am still agile enough to have sex in our truck. We will manage, somehow.
We are designing a truck to use to trailer old cars or show cars. Many old cars, rust buckets, are often out in the boonies, sold as-is and where-is. Those cars do not run, flat tires, trees pushing up through the hood. With a truck like we are building, we can access even the most remote cars in very difficult situations.
The truck will get about 22 to 24 miles per gallon without a trailer. Probably 16 to 18 pulling a loaded trailer.
Slow truck with a six cylinder but will jerk the bumper off your car with the engine simply at idle speed.
We are painting the truck all white with a gray and black interior. Finished oak bed.
Basically, this truck will be a mininature big rig with four wheel drive.
Taha
ya, same "principle," mulitplied...
we should collaborate...your pix, my "prose"; your pix & prose, my copyediting...whatever... great article for prolly 5-6 magazines.... by now you have seen some of my work on da web, yes?
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we should collaborate...your pix, my "prose"; your pix & prose, my copyediting...whatever... great article for prolly 5-6 magazines.... by now you have seen some of my work on da web, yes? ------------------------------------------------ Me book? hmmm, you two ever tried to write one? It's alot more difficult than I thought..It's a creative fiction based on many factual events..Then I let my imagination soar...
Disipline is a problem, thus is the amateur, or is it..
Editing later is the way to go,right? Do writers keep it all? then edit?
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