Why is it always an argument on which sex is better? Why can't we just agree that without one, the other is useless?
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Purl Gurl, the problem is always that you go to message boards and you see what you think is pure bashing, people that have an agenda and are trying to scare others into selling so they can fill their pockets with cheap shares at the expense of innocent honest (and scared) traders, and then sell them higher once everyone realizes it was just a bash and the buying begins (while the basher is selling). Im sure message boards have a big effect on a stock's movement. Until very shortly I thought you were a basher, I'll sadly admit that, and I feel very guilty about that because I don't like not trusting people and for the fact that I wouldve saved more money if I had listened to you during the NDOL fiasco. But then I saw that all the big guys on this board really do follow your advice, so I started reading your earlier posts, and you really do seem to be warning and helping people. You were right about NDOL! In the beginning I hated to admit it because I still wasnt sure "is this just bashing or is she for real??", but you cant deny what happened there. The stock tanked from $1.52 to $0.30 in a very short time. I made $4000 on the way up and lost $2000 when I sold at $0.58, I wouldve lost more if I sold at where it's at now, 0.315, but you said something was not right at $0.80, but of course as a newbie on the website you think "great... another basher".
PG, I hope you realize it can be VERY hard to see the difference between bashers and people like yourself. I've ALWAYS been honest with everyone in my life and this stock trading experiment taught me a LOT about the world we live in, the kind of a**holes that exist in this world (and the aviation world, more about that later). I'm just a simple farmer son in the middle of nowhere in a town in Europe with less than 1000 inhabitants, and I'm only 22 so I'll admit I don't know much about the world. The stock market has been a true eye-opening experience in that aspect though. I couldn't accept at first that there was people like that out there, people that would try to fool others and make them sell their shares at a loss so they can profit from it. While growing up I've never really had to deal with dishonest people. Also, you mention being a target of sexist remarks in a male dominated world... well recently I was a pilot at a flying club in a bigger city as a gay guy, and it's also a male dominated world. Being ridiculously butch and talking about "hot chicks" and titties was something that happened on a daily basis. I was into the aviation world BIG time and even though I'm not the stereotypical "fag" I've been harassed about it to the point that I had to stop flying, from people that were once my best friends, so I know how it feels when you're a minority in a majority... you will get bashed over it! I applaud you for not letting it bring you down, there's nothing wrong with being a woman in a male dominated world, if anything you're making an awesome statement "I belong here just as much as any of you guys", and your honest intentions justify your presence here. As a matter of fact, I stopped being intimated, I'm saving up for an airline pilot training as we speak and I tell myself I'm going to be the best, no matter how much people gossip behind my back about what a big faggot I am. Screw them! Think about yourself and what makes YOU happy!
About those remarks, dont be offended when people think you're a basher (unless they start calling you names and throw sexist comments at you of course...but dont listen to those people), most bashers can come off very convincing, and I dont mean the kind that yells "SELL SELL SELL!!!" and have no facts to back up their statements, I mean the ones that present facts that appear to be facts but arent facts.
Warning others of mistakes they make and helping them out is simply not something anyone would expect from others in a me me me world such as the stock market. I didn't expect it either, not after seeing Ragingbull and the Yahoo message boards (LOL)
Either way, I dont think you're a basher anymore after seeing you warn people about NDOL and XKEM (sold that one for a gain, then later for a small loss), you were right about both of them. And your earlier posts suggest the same.
I dont think I ever bashed you, but if I ever said something that hurt your feelings I sincerely apologize. People make comments when they're frustrated and say things they don't really mean, even though they still hurt.
PS forgive my English, I just woke up
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An enjoyable article, Hannibull. You do not need to be a professor of English to make your point, well and effective.
"I belong here just as much as any of you guys"
Does not matter if you are straight, gay, bisexual nor asexual. All have a right to exist save perhaps those we elect to put to death.
Ours is not so much a question of having a right to belong here as much as where we belong. All have a right to belong somewhere. This does not imply we belong "there" within that somewhere.
Women, or those with a dash of feminine thinking, do not belong in stock message boards. We have a right to belong here, but we do not fit well.
Stock message boards are drowning in testosterone. Places like this are pure masculine aggression with very little intellectual thinking. These boards are caged ultimate fight rings with all being certain losers. Nothing more I enjoy than watching men bash in each others brains, then boast of being a winner, while grinning a bloody toothless grin and squinting through black eyes.
Our hometown, Eagletown, Oklahoma, exists no more. The town is completely gone as are its good people. Hendon's general store is a collapsing building, the post office has been abandoned for a decade, most of Eagletown is now pure jungle and not a single famous name family left.
Grassy Lake is now dead being poisoned with nitrates from commercial chickren ranches railed in and owned by foreigners who brought along a work force of Vietnamese.
Grassy Lake was once a major source of food for our community, especially my Choctaw peoples. The fish are dead. The frogs are dead. The snakes are dead. The lake is dead. My Choctaw are gone.
Four days back, the McCoy home burnt down. No fire department to stop the fire, not even any onlookers to watch that famous home burn down. The abandoned McCoy home burnt alone and unknown.
A Choctaw elder sent us pictures of the McCoy home burning, along with sad words. There was one watching, with great sadness, a sadness of knowing white men slaughtered our peoples as they do our good Earth. Will not be long my Choctaw elder will be gone; he is old and very tired.
Two decades back, Weyerhauser came to town and bought timber options on one-million acres of pine forest around our hometown. Weyerhauser brought in equipment, buildings, crews, all by railroad, right into the middle of Eagletown. Twelve years later, Weyerhauser packed up, left by railroad headed for Georgia. Weyerhauser left our hometown in complete ruin.
Lumbering and a sawmill was the only industry around during our childhoods. Almost all were either farmers or worked for a sawmill over in Broken Bow, a handful of miles away.
Weyerhauser clearcut the entire county, then left. Not a single tree was left standing. Weyerhauser cut down all our pine forests and left hardwoods to lie and rot. Once our forests were completely gone, Weyerhauser left taking jobs with them, and leaving behind devastation. The only sawmill in town had to close; no forests left.
With all jobs gone, this left no money for people to buy goods from farmers. Within a decade all farmers had to sell then move to big cities simply to survive. Most farmers simply abandoned their farms with none around to buy their land.
Eagletown, once a thriving and dynamic farming community is so alone and so dead, there are none to give our hometown a fitting burial; the McCoy home burnt down a few days back and none watched, none knew.
This is the philosophy of the male gender; slash and burn. Men do not think. Men force their will upon people and Mother Nature. Men are destroyers of life, women are givers of life.
Unfortunately, fists win over brains.
The McCoy home burnt down four days back, along with the very last remnant of my childhood. This makes me cry.
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it says in the bible "seek ye the truth and the truth will set you free", one of the ultimate pearls of wisdom, along with "cast not ye pearls before swine, lest they turn and rend YOU."
some of us do read and appreciate some of these posts. i deal with some highly motivated and successful women executives but didn't understand why we got along so well until i read pg's posts in this thread. i fired a lawyer last fall for being a "cheerleader" instead of an attorney, i.e. a leech collecting a large fee. tell me the truth instead of being a "cheerleader" so i can make intelligent decisions. real friends tell you the truth as they see it, and do not "cheerlead".
like most of the others, i started posting on these boards to pick up some easy stock tips and make a few bucks. i made some good money, but by reading these posts with an open mind, walked away from this with something a lot more valuable than money, knowledge and truth.
btw, most of the people who do not have money and desire a lot of it do not know of all of the problems and strife having a lot of money causes. watch out for what you wish for - you might get it!.
-------------------- I'm from Missouri - Show Me! Posts: 950 | From: Middle of Nowhere, Missouri | Registered: May 2006
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"watch out for what you wish for - you might get it!"
Farmers around our hometown, being so poor and hurt so bad by large corporate agri-business, saw a chance to bring a little money to their families by selling timber rights to Weyerhauser.
Those farmers had no way of knowing selling those timber rights also sold their lifes and sold our community.
Twenty years since, all is gone, forever, all because of a wish for money.
Our family is wealthy, have risen from poverty, yet we still lead a frugal lifestyle and still work our butts off everyday as if we have no money at all.
We will never allow money to corrupt our lives.
Our wish is to lead a hard working honest life, a gratifying life, money or not.
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Back in 1995, I, our family, acquired a sociopathic internet s-talker. He chased after me everywhere, became psychotically obsessed with me. He showed everywhere on the internet he found me.
He researched, he paid a detective find out all he could about our family. He learned we own lots of real estate and are wealthy.
Very soon, obscene and threatening phone calls to us, to our extended family, to our neighbors, horrific phone calls and threats of violence.
I advised him if he did not leave us alone, I would bankrupt him. He scoffed and did not believe me, said I was bluffing.
Immediately, holding lots of information about him he did not know, I contacted his employer, TRW, where he held a good job being hired right out of UCR; a masters in computer science.
Took a half a year, but I took his job away and left him with a bad employment history; he was using TRW facilities to commit crimes against our family.
After two years of this, he escalated this to real life. While off on vacation, he broke into our home, took photographs to prove he was there and killed our kitten. He posted his photographs on the internet.
Law enforcement became involved, we won a restraining order, eventually he was put in jail for ninety days.
I will not provide details, after his release he was severely beaten, his apartment trashed and he fled town.
I said I would bankrupt him. I did so.
He wished to harass and terrify us for whatever sociopathic _masculine_ reason, and he got what he wished for, and a bit more.
I do not mince my words nor do I ever bluff and sometimes I make those wishes come true.
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Incidently, when he fled town, he fled to his mother's house down in Los Angeles.
Being still angry, I went down there, spotted him upstairs looking out a window, screamed at him, challenged him to come out. He closed the curtains and called the police.
I am still angry.
This is how I view, not all, but most men; rough and tough talking boys hiding behind their momma's skirt.
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Whale, 'bout millionaires....Have to tell you one that fooled a friend of mine for years..My friend actually gave him a Salmon because he thought the poor old fella didn't have enough to eat..The Salmon was a brite, fresh into the bay 20 pound chinook..
From time to time they would cross paths fishing the river, the old man would always mention the chinook.
Strange thing happened for a few yrs. My friend always had a fresh xmas tree show up around xmas even if they already had a tree up..The first time he thought maybe a kid had stole the tree and gave up packing it..
When it happened again, well he knew sumpin was up..The old man did cross his mind....
One day reading a local obituary he saw the old mans picture.........He was a Multi- Millionaire rancher and Xmas tree grower.
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The American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked.
Inside the small boat were several large yellow fin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.
The Mexican replied, "Only a little while."
The American then asked, "Why didn't you stay out longer and catch more fish?"
The Mexican said, "With this I have more than enough to support my family's needs."
The American then asked, "But what do you do with the rest of your time?"
The Mexican fisherman said, "I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siesta with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine and play guitar with my amigos, I have a full and busy life."
The American scoffed, "I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing; and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat: With the proceeds from the bigger boat you could buy several boats. Eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor; eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then Los Angeles and eventually New York where you will run your ever-expanding enterprise."
The Mexican fisherman asked, "But, how long will this all take?"
To which the American replied, "15 to 20 years."
"But what then?" asked the Mexican.
The American laughed and said that's the best part. "When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions."
"Millions?...Then what?"
The American said, "Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siesta with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos."
The fisherman, still smiling, looked up and said, "Isn't that what I'm doing right now?"
Posts: 1091 | From: Brugge, Belgium / Dallas TX USA | Registered: May 2006
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most people i know that have money work as is they had no money at all. people with money do not gamble on the lottery - poor people do. wealthy people do not waste - poor people do. that's one of the reasons that they are poor. most wealthy people are more frugal than their poorer peers. wannabe's have all of the designer stuff and the new suv's and are mostly in debt up to their butts. these are generalizations but are inherently true on the most part.
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While reading some articles about money, I thought of our small concrete mixer we use for odd jobs around the home, for our rentals. That started me off on my rant leading me to forget the real story to share.
When that creep took pictures, one of them is outside and shows our concrete mixer on its stand. He is harassing me in a chat line,
"Rich people do not have concrete mixers. You are not rich, on and on and on...."
I think to myself, "This is why he will never be rich. He believes if you are rich, you pay people to do your work for you."
His attitude defeats him before he will ever have a chance to be financially secure. Those who do well in life do so because they work hard and save their money. How foolish of us to hire someone to perform work we can do.
Now older, almost old, we cannot and do not want to break our habit of working hard and living a frugal lifestyle. We have some toys, certainly, but we waited decades before even thinking about buying toys.
Rich people do mix and pour their own concrete. This is a small part of why they are rich.
Know what? We have never owned a new car. Our most new car is my Corvette and it is a 1975 year model. We bought it as junk, then restored it, just as with our trucks.
Had we not started life in poverty, I am not so sure we would be doing so well. Our desire to escape poverty, our desire to be sure our girl has a good life, is what motivates us to work hard and do well.
Be sure to understand, our girl is not spoiled. There have been many times we worked her so hard, her hands became blistered, just as ours did when young and working on our farm.
She knows the joy of back breaking sweaty field work of a farm.
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Oh, no problem, Glassman. When our daughter was born, my Choctaw midwife handed me an owner's manual and a service warranty.
Just a matter of reading the owner's manual and following those instructions on how to raise a child. Piece of cake, until a child's horny hormones kick in.
I have to go downhill to our shop to change the oil and the filter on a 1957 Chevy. One of my chores today, my to-do list from the old man. Rich girls do stuff like that.
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BTW Hannibull i like that story... i've kicked all 'round this hemisphere... seen a lot of happy people, and seen a lot of unhappy people...
most happy people seem to me to be taking responsibility for their situation whatever that may be....
i had the so-called privilege of associating with a lot of very unhappy, extremely wealthy, and extaordinarily privileged children when i was young.... life is a highway..... be sure to take the scenic route once in awhile
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most rich people do not hire people to do work that they can do themselves. exactly. right on. when we buy toys, we actually buy them with money, not max out 3 credit cards to get it. rich people usually shun credit cards cuz of the high interest rates, except for amex that gets paid in full every month. rich people shun debt and installment payments.
the simple, busy, low profile life is the best imho. most people don't know reality until they have seen both the top and the bottom sides of life. they are real people who are a pleasure to have around. wannabe's reek! i enjoy asking them "how are you going to pay for that ?", just to see their reactions. just a rhetorical question !
-------------------- I'm from Missouri - Show Me! Posts: 950 | From: Middle of Nowhere, Missouri | Registered: May 2006
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Good Greif Whale you had one hell of a Hot Flash! Around here she heads for the big fan!Geez, no covers at night anymore, I'm freezing to death up here!
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"Good Greif Whale you had one hell of a Hot Flash!"
You expect a woman to be emotionally stable?
There is another problem with men. Besides, this E440 asswipe accusing me of being a child molester made me angry. Then he turns around and complains to administration I am abusing him for my coming down on him, even threatened to sue me for my "defamation" of his character. What character? He has none. He is a screaming *******.
He writes to all readers I am a child molester. Writes I should be arrested and imprisoned. Suggests I am a teacher having sex with her students. Yes, that made me angry.
I tell him what I think of him, he whines, cries, threatens to sue me then has my articles and pictures deleted along with a warning from adiministration here at Allstocks.
His claim I am a child molester remains. My response articles are deleted. What the F-word is wrong with moderators around here?
The man should have been banished simply for claiming I am a child molester. Oh no, he is a man, this is ok. How dare a woman become angry over nothing. She needs to be punished.
All the men act nothing happened, chum up to the asswipe, stroke his ego. "Yeah, you really put that woman in her place."
You boys best not confess to being a moderator over there. Chances are I will chew you out.
All I did is to relate a story of my daughter having friends over and they see me swimming naked in our pool, downhill. For Pete's sake, I am downhill from our house and have no idea they are watching me.
I am a child molester because some teenage boys, up on our hill, look down our hill and see me naked in our pool. Christ. How F-n lame.
Should tell some of my more saucy stories, there is no doubt those asswipe men would be calling the FBI to report me.
Hot flash, indeed. Dustoff, as brave as you are, you would probably piddle your pants to be around when I am really angry, like angry enough to hire some muscle from the Eastside to nearly beat a man to death who pissed me off by terrifying my family. Nobody messes with my family.
That E440 jerk-off used my daughter as a premise to insult me, to claim I am child molester. Lucky I do not who he is. That is a type of event for which I would hire that muscle again, immediately.
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Their scam stock closed precisely in the range I indicated yesterday. Majority volume was not in my range, very close, but volume was extreme.
Many are now selling and complaining. They have no right to complain. Typical men, they are blaming their mistakes on everything and everyone but themselves.
They could have made almost twice as much profits had they listened to me instead of personally attacking me. They could have tripled their profits if they followed my flip play suggestion.
Oh no, she is a stupid woman who has no place in the stock markets.
They are getting the butt f-word they deserve.
It will be a very long time before I bring picks here or offer advice. Participants here really do not deserve my expertise.
That is stereotypical masculine thinking about the stock markets.
This is why women are superior market traders; we know and acknowledge when "it" is our fault. We do not whine and complain. We retrace, then negotiate a better position and profit.
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Hey, Lady, ease up a tad. I'm on your side. And not because you can be meaner'n a damned pi$$ed off cotton mouth. I just happen to agree and have had a taste myself of a--holes hunting me down because they couldn't shout me down on here. It's more than a bit scary.
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"Hot flash, indeed. Dustoff, as brave as you are, you would probably piddle your pants to be around when I am really angry"
------------------------------------------------- me is shivering me timbers away up here north! Geezz, me frezzzzes at nites and now me freeezzes on the board! Women!!
Oh' im blue marlin the rouge of can, can sparkle in the sun, yes i can, but me has me Ocean and landlubbers devotion, Oh'such a lucky man!
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During my childhood, a handful of people were killed by others. Usually a wife would kill her drunken husband, or a farmer would have his mules trample a sharecropper land baron, some Choctaw men in a knife fight, one would end up dead.
All around the community would say, "He needed killin'" and that was the end of it. Sheriff McKinney would not investigate, no charges ever leveled. He needed killin' is something we all understood.
Quite difficult for me to accept these things which happen, today, and not think, "That boy needs killin' right now." I come from a very different background than most of you. If a person deserved to die or deserved to be beaten, that is what happened. None called McKinney; we took care of justice in our own way and our justice was always right, always deserved. We were and are fiercely honest and equally fair.
These things which young men do these days, in my time, they would receive a vicious beating. Those men would never behave like that again.
One thing especially. During my time boys nor men ever sass a woman. That is an offense which would have a boy given a good beaten. Women were treated with utmost courtesy, always addressed proper, ma'am, miss or mrs. Men never used a woman's first name until she allowed them to do so.
Around the farms and community, we had our own laws based upon behaving right. Nothing wrong, nothing unethical, all fair and just. However, the punishment was either a beating or a killing, with the latter very rare.
In our farming community, there was no crime, zero crime. Oh sure, maybe a melon or two stolen, some corn picked, or a missing mason jar of white lightning. These events were overlooked being unimportant and more of an expectation.
I have difficulties restraining myself, have difficulties not administering justice as justice should be; swift and right now.
Odd, I just arrived back home from grocery shopping. I am checking out and the bag boy says to me, "Hi ma'am, how are you today?" We exchange words. "Ma'am, do you want your milk in a bag." I answer and smile. "Would you like help with your groceries, Ma'am?" Do not need any help. "Ma'am you have a nice day. Thanks for shopping with us."
This is a kid all of maybe sixteen or seventeen.
I am impressed. He behaves as we did.
I comment to the cashier, "That boy has some good manners. He is very polite." She talks for a minute how rare this is, about how kids are not like we were in the Golden Days.
Difference is in our day if we displayed the slightest bit of rudeness, if we were not mindful of adults, we did not behave right, we received a butt switching right on the spot.
We were taught proper manners.
Difference is today's kids are not disciplined, have no manners, have no pride.
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Somethin ain't right......is them old navy brand jeans the Lady wears in that thar pitchur?
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Hahahaha. Yup, Goodwill, them's the brand I wears. Been wearin 'em ever since we growed up and big brother wasn't around and Hanmedon brand wasn't no longer 'vailabul.
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