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glassman
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yeah something suspicious alright....

the claim is the guys was "peppered"... by a 28 guage at 30 yds....
that's an indicatation it's not a serious hit...

BUT?

the victim is in intensive care... OK. he IS 78...

hitting someone on the ground at 30 yards doesn't sound right when you are bird hunting...

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A conspiracy? Hardly...

I think the only thing they are trying to cover up is Cheney's stupidity and foolishness for shooting his bud in the face.

If they were really trying to kill the guy for some reason, they wouldn't be using a 28 gauge shotgun filled with birdshot -- that's like a glorified pellet gun. They would at least use a 12 gauge.

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I don't want to be hit at 30 yards even with a .410 loaded with #12s (a proper laod for bobwhite in a .410 or 28ga.).

Ever look close at what such a load of shot does to a rabbit or squirrel. It ain't pretty and, at 30 yards, is almost guaranteed
to instantaneously de-life a tree rat centered in the patern.....just not too much left that isn't too full of lead to
be edible. If he was using 7 1/2 or 6 shot, the guy is lucky to be alive.

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quote:
Originally posted by Team Sleep:
A conspiracy? Hardly...

I think the only thing they are trying to cover up is Cheney's stupidity and foolishness for shooting his bud in the face.

If they were really trying to kill the guy for some reason, they wouldn't be using a 28 gauge shotgun filled with birdshot -- that's like a glorified pellet gun. They would at least use a 12 gauge.

LOL, funny you mentioned that. I've been shot by a 12 guage from about 100 yrds away. I'm just glad that we were small game hunting. LOL Gotta love the ole Mossberg.

It felt like sleet hitting me. It sounded like raindrops in the leaves behind me.

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So do you think they were trying to kill the guy for some reason?

He might be lucky to be alive, but are we lucky he's alive?

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Hmmm. Well, they said he was fine after the incident, yet he was taken to ICU? Must be nice to be a person of his stature.

What I wanna know is how many of the bb's they had to pull outta his chest, neck and cheek? That's the million dollar question.

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quote:
Originally posted by Team Sleep:
A conspiracy? Hardly...

I think the only thing they are trying to cover up is Cheney's stupidity and foolishness for shooting his bud in the face.

If they were really trying to kill the guy for some reason, they wouldn't be using a 28 gauge shotgun filled with birdshot -- that's like a glorified pellet gun. They would at least use a 12 gauge.

I wouldn't jump to a conspiracy conclusion either. However, it's a sad commentary that our people in charge automatically, on instinct, by their very nature, opt for the cover up instead of simply coming right out and saying "...it was a hunting accident, sorry about that, guess it's time for Dick to get an eye exam and a new glasses prescription so he doesn't get the birds mixed up with the people anymore."
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"... it's a sad commentary that our people in charge automatically, on instinct, by their very nature, opt for the cover up...."

Precisely! Ya hit the nail on the head.

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conspiracy? of what? to conceal stupidity?

LOL....

quail don't always jump straight up, but sheesh man 30 yards to the chest and face is a very LEVEL shot...

that was my point....

do the geometry....

unless they were on a relatively steep hill? or Cheney was lying on the ground [Big Grin] ? i'd say Cheney "twitched" his trigger finger....

the story don't hold water...

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I agree that it's a bunch of crap to try and cover it up. But, that's the nature of our government... it's been that way probably ever since the early administrations...

Well, at least since the days of Lincoln. That guy was a cover-up artist! His acts of treason and terrorism are rarely spoken of.

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Remember Dan Quayle? Brilliant man he was.

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Yep. Dan Quale...the prime of the Party even with this current bunch available then.
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lol

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Well, here is the picture!


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[ February 13, 2006, 21:44: Message edited by: glassman ]

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I heard sumpin about the lack of a proper bird stamp...

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Yep, apparently that is against Texas state law.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/cheney_hunting_accident;_ylt=Ajzq1e5z33Y2_28nyDktM6qs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA2Z2szazkxBHNlYwN0bQ--

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Press secretary Scott McClellan said he did not know until Sunday morning that Cheney had shot someone.

Facing a press corps upset that news had been withheld, McClellan said, "I think you can always look back at these issues and look at how to do a better job."


we been hearing alot of this lately...

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Armstrong said she saw Cheney's security detail running toward the scene. "The first thing that crossed my mind was he had a heart problem," she told The Associated Press.

so she wasn't an eyewitness afterall....
that would 'splain why the story doesn't really hold water....

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lotta stuff ain't right:

no alcohol? how could they tell? Cheney wasn't interviewed till the next day?

this doesn't add up either...

Monday. Doctors decided to leave several birdshot pellets lodged in his skin rather than try to remove them.

usually? you leave lead in somebody if it's in a dangerous place to operate...

maybe the lawyer wants it left in for evidence? LOL

i suspect this is a bit worse than they are claiming...

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Good ol' boy McClellan said that Whittington cause the "accident" because he violated standard "hunting protocol when he didn't yell to announce where he was and make certain the others knew he was there, so "Cheney did nothing wrong".

Hell, I've been hunting for a lot more years then that doofus has been breathing and there is no such "hunting protocol". The first and only rule is "Know where you are pointing your gun and know what is where you are pointing your gun AT ALL TIMES!!!?

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quote:
Originally posted by LEO:
Well, here is the picture!


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Thanks Glass...WOW, that's gruesome. Dick sure looks happy with himself.
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why would they change tactics now? they been blaming everybody else for their screwups since 911...

nobody really believes that it was anybody elses falut but the guy that made the gun and the ammo factory [Roll Eyes]


they switched it out LEO, sorry, some sites do that... i only tried to "fix" it cuz the UR L was three lines long...

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I'll have to see that non-resident hunting license before I'm going to believe this bunch. It is supposed to be a matter of public record. If there hasn't been some sort of chicanery to keep it secret, why don't they produce it?

A Bird stamp is required by law, i.e,, it is part of the permit to hunt quail (it's one of the the results of our brave fighter pilot leaders tax lowering scheme for the rich....turn every thing into a users fee...that way those deadbeats on the public dole won't be getting anything free.)

Do you suppose that had one of us been caught red handed hunting without all the legally required permits that we would get off with a warning?

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wo, leo, somebody hacked the pic....
they forced it off the original site too....

http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/

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i thought the pix was changed here... hmmmm

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wow, that's weird
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nah, not wierd, somebody didn't like the picture being "swiped"....
they got it back up on their site now ....prolly with a new UR L.... they should get credit for their work... they don't if it isn't routed properly,
somebody over there is actually at work, LOL

my apologies to uncomfirmed sourcesdotcom....

their web site is pretty funny/cool....

http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/

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ya know? Mishaps like this happen alla time...

When I was growing up, my dad and uncles stressed that safety was everybody's business; ie, nobody had a particular "role," and you'd be dumb to be in any kind of brush where somebody might be shooting...Whittington may have been partially concealed, he may have fallen, he may have been playing a joke, they may have been drunk...the possibilities are nearly endless, and we'll never know.

But not coming forth with the story quickly is just too dumb for words. With these guys, it's just one stumbling, staggering, overlapping blunder after another. Jeez, Brown and Melchezidick are shooting it out on page one about Katrina, and Cheney can't even handle a hunting accident...

Too bad Hunter Thompson ain't around to get the book contract to document the black comedy of the entire two terms...It's almost slapstick

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almost slapstick, but not funny,

i had a great uncle who lost his hand to a shotgun that was propped up on the porch... loaded...

i had safety worked into me so deep, i count rounds as i load and as i shoot without thinking( except full-auto of course).....

ya gotta ask yourself, did he shoot five or did he shoot six? well? do ya feel lucky punk? LOL

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same here...but even my own ma scared me once.

That's what I mean, though: lottsa guys "think" they're being safe...

slapstick/not funny: can you imagine the reactions of the professional PR people close to all this? Surely some good books will emerge, after the election...

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I do not fault cheney for the accident. I do fault the fool for the attempt of a coverup.


And that goes for the whole whole lot of them!

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it's more about them blaming everybody else for me...

they've done it over and over and over......it's his fault cuz he shoulda announced himslef? hmmmmm...

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ya, that jumped out at me, too...

here's the deal: even if that played a role, how much better to take responsibility, announce it quickly and even show up at the hospital...ok, later maybe, after a buncha coffee [Big Grin]

but that deal about being "very worried" at dinner? that's lame, too...

What coulda been a quick deal is now gonna have reporters all over it. Remember Gary Hart, daring the press?

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We only have their word that is isn't a big deal.

I still want to know WHY cover it up if it isn't anything? Maybe there is something they need or want to hide.

I know, I know,,,,,they are dumb that way, but still.........

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