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4 Art needs to slow down his posts, I am not sure which one I am on,feels like I'm lost in the jungle.
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The other thing 4 Art, when you post pictures like this and then follow with these statements, you are pushing some veterans buttons. Some Vietnam Veterans went through bad experiances when they came home because of these things. It's your choice but be prepared for a bad response.
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I agree with you there, IWISHIHAD. However I do not intend to offend the war vets in any way, and they have every right to not watch the video, which is clearly labeled as graphic.
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: The other thing 4 Art, when you post pictures like this and then follow with these statements, you are pushing some veterans buttons. Some Vietnam Veterans went through bad experiances when they came home because of these things. It's your choice but be prepared for a bad response.
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I know you try and understand what we are saying ,but it is not the graphic part that will bother most of them. It was the title that was given to them because of pictures like this.
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I am not telling you anything other than another way of looking at what you are doing, that's your choice.
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I guess what your saying is that you want the Iraq veterans to be labled the same way Vietnam Veterans were. You seem to think that these few pictures are what the war is all about. If you think these pictures are going to change something good luck.
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A whole generation was born and has had children of their own since the Viet Nam war ended. It is time you stopped dwelling on what people said to you then and blaming that on people you have no good reason to believe were part of that (in many cases, as I suspect is happening now, people that were not alive then to have done anything to you). If you expect to be respected and to have you views respected, the way to that goal is not through threats and name calling and attacking of people that never showed you any disrespect. You have no right to expect respect for your opinions if you begin by declaring anyone else to not have any right to an opinion. A person has every right to an opinion and to voice that opinion without being subjected to ridicule and insult from emotionally troubld bitter people whose only contribution to the subject is to insult someone.
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4Art has a problem, it's called diarrea of the mouth.....
In his case, of the keyboard...
He plays the game of the caring, while all along he just spews a sophisticated hatred..
4Art, I think you are a troubled person, as the night wears on I am begining to see a pattern of someone who just can't grasp the humanity involved in supporting the troops and respecting America....
I don't think you are fighting us, I think you are fighting with yourself.
Have you lost someone to violence?
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Bdgee Once again you fill in the blanks to fit your views. So how do you think we should protect our troops? What is your background in the military? What do you base your views other than BS? Of course knowing you there will not be a answer.
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You're ahead of me in the "troubled" department, I suspect. Especially if you drank much of that water from the contaminated 50 gallon barrel that had been used to transport dioxin.
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: 4Art, I think you are a troubled person,
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I don't deserve that insult. I ask for general respect and courtesy and nothing more. In return I get insulted.
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These guys are the ones that spew hatred, bdgee.
Take 'em even a little below the surface in the critical thinking department and they freak out.
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Both Colin Powell, US Secretary of State, and Condoleezza Rice, President Bush's closest adviser, made clear before September 11 2001 that Saddam Hussein was no threat - to America, Europe or the Middle East.
quote:4Art, I think you are a troubled person, as the night wears on I am begining to see a pattern of someone who just can't grasp the humanity involved in supporting the troops and respecting America....
What does "supporting our troops and respecting America" mean?
What do you do to support the troops? Make kind remarks and say good job? Never speak of the atrocities that happen during war?
Respecting America? You're joking right? The people who are destroying this countries constitution and trading your freedoms for securities should be rewarded and backed up?
How about, opening your eyes and seeing through the LIES you've been fed and face the FACTS that your government is corrupt and abuses its power for profit?
Maybe in your lifetime you'll see complete Totalitarism in america and then maybe you will change your mind.
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Keep digging 4Art... Pretty soon the hole will deep enough to bury you in.
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I love my country. That's why I work for change.
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quote:4Art, I think you are a troubled person, as the night wears on I am begining to see a pattern of someone who just can't grasp the humanity involved in supporting the troops and respecting America....
What does "supporting our troops and respecting America" mean?
What do you do to support the troops? Make kind remarks and say good job? Never speak of the atrocities that happen during war?
Respecting America? You're joking right? The people who are destroying this countries constitution and trading your freedoms for securities should be rewarded and backed up?
How about, opening your eyes and seeing through the LIES you've been fed and face the FACTS that your government is corrupt and abuses its power for profit?
Maybe in your lifetime you'll see complete Totalitarism in america and then maybe you will change your mind.
"Respecting America? You're joking right? The people who are destroying this countries constitution and trading your freedoms for securities should be rewarded and backed up?"
I don't mean americans. I mean the administration in place.. Before I get attacked.
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quote:Originally posted by 4Art: No I haven't lost anyone to violence.
You're ahead of me in the "troubled" department, I suspect. Especially if you drank much of that water from the contaminated 50 gallon barrel that had been used to transport dioxin.
quote:Originally posted by Dustoff101: 4Art, I think you are a troubled person,
------------------------------------------------ Actually you are right, my spleen had to be removed years later because of it..
I am one of a group 5, 2 still living, that the VA treats and monitors. The Evans Syndrome that took me down 28 years after Nam, is very rare and was most likely caused by Dioxon exsposure in Nam.
And yes the Almighty has been a strength to my Wife, family and myself..
In your zeal to make a name for yourself and spew your self-rightous intellectual garbage you are only breeding contempt for 4Art...
Many of us are getting damn sick and tired of you.
You ran with a pack of dogs that attacked Wallace and me on another thread one night, do you think I have forgotten that.
One of your buddies even attacked me for being a disabled Veteran, and you piled on.
So, yes I see the suddle attempt at dispuraging me again.
I thought you were to much of a light weight to have lost someone close to violence, because if you had, your attitude would be more tempered.
Just what makes you think your so damn important around here?
The only stock I have ever seen you on, is QBID. To my knowledge you have never tried to pick a stock other than pumping that POS QBID.
So tell me, what use are you?
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Yes, I see you recognize the need for stating your position so specifically, before your position is twisted into something it never was.
It is sad that there are those so obsessed with contorting honest and heartfelt concerns for the most fundamental precepts of society and the Constitution that they will construe it to agrue against the very documents itself.
And they do so for the sake of the Party, the all powerful Party. Party loyalty over all else has destroyed more than one republic.
And yes you are right....it is the nest of vermin that infests the Administration (assisted by factions in Congress and the Courts) that are doing heinous wrongs in the name of our country.
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