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Democrats

Thought I would share this email from one of the silent majority.

Liberals hate big business. Yet they LOVE big cities. Just take a look at the blue territories on the county map - they're all counties with big cities. Interesting part - you don't find "nature loving" liberals outside of big cities. Big cities are the epitome of unnatural, "big corporation" living. They absolutely love to live in the big industrial concrete jungles they claim to hate. After all, cities stand where nature once flourished. Nature had to be ripped, burned, plowed and chopped down to build large cities. So where do these "nature activists" choose to live? Yup - cities. The bigger the better, for some reason. And I've never met a liberal who wanted to live out in the country. With all that nature/environment talk, they sure are bedazzled by city life. Go figure. The only time you meet a liberal out in the countryside is when you bump into them as they are in the process of driving from one big city to another, and even then, they prefer to fly (hence the liberal term "fly-over country", otherwise known as the red states).
Speaking of red states: With much weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, heathen liberals everywhere are labeling all the "red" territories as "Jesus Country". Darned straight! Besides, how else would you expect these sniveling, godless weasels to react? A key point to keep in mind: In grudgingly naming the red zones "Jesus Country", the liberals have inadvertently judged themselves to be the godless heathen we have always claimed them to be. Their utter disgust for religion is now on parade for all to see (and as we already know, this is only the beginning).
No matter how much the libs whine and snivel about how the entire country slam-voted gay marriage, they're simply going to have to get used to the fact that the vast majority of all humanity is not homophobic (we don't fear homosexuality at all) we just HATE it. It sickens us, it repulses us, and it turns our stomachs to even have images of it in our minds. Homosexuality is a direct assault on nature itself. We will NEVER be open to it, no matter how much the liberal media tries to ram it down our throats.

The libs can go right ahead and move up to Canada, the country that likes to lead people to believe that it's superior to the United States (they turn their noses up at us - what do you you expect from a country that speaks french?). On their way out the door, remind your liberal friends that 85% of the entire Canadian population and nearly all of it's major cities are right up against the United States border. Who's your daddy, Canada?
It just tickles me pink to see the liberal reaction. I mean, we're talking Sauron when Frodo destroys the ring. They just discovered that they have been dead wrong about what this country really thinks and what it believes. The libs have been believing their own lies for a long time now, and they just found out that they are a very small number compared to the "rest of us", otherwise known as the silent majority. It's beautiful.




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whats the big city on the top right??????

mooseville? been up that way in a float plane, no towns just numbers....

i get the picture though.


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Newsweek has those maps in it in the exclusive addition! Bought it for my husband! Has a lot of statistics in there too! For instance, this small chart! I will try to copy it without messing it up, lol!

Who voted:
Bush Kerry Nader Total
Men 54% 45% 1% 46%
Women 47 52 1 54
White 57 42 1 77
Black 11 89 0 11
Hispanic/Latino 42 55 2 9
Did not finish HS 49 50 0 4
High School 51 48 1 22
College Grad 51 47 1 26
City 50,000+ 43 56 0 30
Small city/Rural 56 43 1 24

What voters cared about the most:

Moral values 79% 18% 2 22
Economy/jobs 18 80 1 20
Terrorism 86 14 0 19
Iraq 25 74 0 15
Health Care 22 78 - 8
Taxes 56 44 0 5
Education 25 75 - 4


This chart seems to be a reflection, to me, on how a moral society thinks! From my own faith, I believe that if you put God first in your life, give Him his tythe first, he will provide you with all of your needs, so you don't have to worry about most of these things! Not your wants, your needs! Ok Glass! Your turn!


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Sorry, the chart scrunched together, I think you can figure it out!
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Those who put the God of religion first ignore the realities of life and get lost in delusional ideas.

We are each God - each of us a part of a cosmic quantum computation process that runs the materialization of the universe.

It is not about acting morally. It is about becoming wise. Put your faith in yourself and learn from your experience. Then you will get in harmony with the flow of the universe - in harmony with all-that-is or God. This is how you participate in the cosmic process some call God.

The God of religion, where morality is part of ontology, is a myth. You might as well believe in Santa Claus.


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don't hold back Art...LOL

i don't think they are ready for ALL of that in such a concise statement...


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i think that chart just shows that the political unvierse is out of balance, and we are in for some stressful times...


i hope it doesn't come down to who prays harder......
how many time do the Muslims face Mecca each day?

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Your red/blue doesn't hold water anyway. Yes there was more blue in the big cities and red everywhere else. But you make it sound like, everyone in the blue voted Democrat and everyone in Red voted Republican which is far from the truth. Because its red only means Repulican won by more then one vote. And if it was Blue Democrats won by at least one more vote. This assumption is crazy. Besides most counties in the midwest might be lucky to have 50 people in them. Just because 53% voted Republican means little.

You have 4 circle all three being 10 miles wide. 3 circle have 1 person in it and one circle has 100 in it. The 3 with 1 are red and the 1 with 100 are blue. If you only looked at the color then the Red would be overwhelming. Thats the Midwest.

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What surprises me most is the amount of blue in Texas.
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lot of that going around isn't there?

the interesting part is how the rhetoric is so violent..
"endangered species"? those are fighting words...LOL


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From 1st post

"Speaking of red states: With much weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, heathen liberals everywhere are labeling all the "red" territories as "Jesus Country". Darned straight! Besides, how else would you expect these sniveling, godless weasels to react?"

I consider myself a christian but this kind of talk is why I think the church is going down hill. Hatred is in so much of the christian's talk in American now. Not all of them but a lot. Its like the ones that kill the abortion doctors in the name of God.

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they will destroy the church from the inside out.....
just another reason the forefathers wanted to keep the separation from the State distinct...religious fascism, hmmm, isn't that what sam is about too??????

it does take two to tango....


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LOL Hope everyone is well,Have'nt had much time,New that post would get this thread a little juice.LOL Glassman i could have made a fortune betting on your response.Hope you are making some money.Glassman free tip,start making religious glass items,i will be part of your pipeline.TO DA MOON LOL
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In God I Trust.......In Dar I Trust........YEP!!!! Makes sense Art.

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Do Da Due!!!

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glad you think this is funny elTigre....

personnally i am only surprised that i so severely overestimated the IQ of the country....

as i post, they are announcing confirmation of another murder of a TRUE humanitarian in Iraq....

no LOL

i think it's time to re-consider the embedded journalists with the marines too... this kid is a hero, wounded the day before and right back to work...
and i don't think ANYBODY needed to hear about the shooting of the "captive"

PS... Art, did you ever notice the anagram for santa?...LOL just another of the subliminal battles raging in the "group mind"

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Art!

There is no way, I could ever convince you that God exists, unless you want to believe in Him, and you are set on believing that the power is within yourself, and around you, because YOU want to be in control, but I can tell you,from my own testimony, that I know Jesus, on a very personal level, and there is no doubt in my mind, that HE exists, and I have given HIM control! God has shown me that he is here, in supernatural ways, many times, and my husband could attest to it, because he has been involved on several occasions! I leave it up to my husband, to deny anything I ever say on this board, if I'm not saying the truth, if he so chooses; because we keep our identities separate, so we can voice our own opinions, but if it comes down to it, he can deny what I am saying, if I am not being truthful!

My husband has physically been picked up, held in mid air, and dropped, by an unseen force, right in front of my eyes, after he just got done saying he didn't know why God never answered his prayers! When this happened, my husband was an alcoholic. I prayed for seven years for God to heal him. Right after it happened,(him being physically picked up in mid air, held, and then dropped without being injured) we questioned the evidence of what happened to him, and what I had seen, and I blurted out that maybe God was trying to tell him to quit drinking! We were both in shock, afterward! We both started to explain it away like it didn't happen, and we were sitting and holding our Bibles, which we had pledged to read so many chapters a night from our sunday school class, when the Lord moved a book mark, from his Bible, to mine, and back to my husbands, without either one of us opening them up, just looking down on the top of them. We each had our own marker, and when I looked down on mine, there were two in there, and he was looking for his, and asked me where his marker was, and I looked up at him, and said, it is in my Bible, and when I looked down again, it was gone, and back in his Bible. When he looked at where his Bible was marked, it was in Matthew, Chapter 22, where it says, Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all of thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. That night, my husband was healed of alchololism! He hasn't had a drink since! It has been over fourteen years!

I have felt Gods physical presence in my body, as sort of an electrical charge, on many occasions, and touched others, without telling them, and have had them tell me they could feel it coming from my hands! There is such a feeling of joy, and peace when this happens! I have also prayed with someone on the internet, and touched the monitor, and they have felt the same thing! You can think this crazy, but it really happens!

The Lord healed me physically, within seconds one day, while I was canning with a friend, and accidentally dumped boiling water down over my arm, and was in agony! It was red, and blistering, and I was asking her to take me to the emergency room. My friend prayed for me,and we sat and watched the burns physically go away, within seconds!

I've seen rainbows in my home, when the sun wasn't shining!

The Lord has given me knowledge about people, and things on occasion, that defies any other answer! My husband took me to a race one evening, and he asked me who I thought was going to win, and I prayed and asked God, and he told me who was going to win the first thirteen races! My husbands face was in shock, and I was scared, because I didn't know what God wanted from me, telling me what I asked, but I have since learned that He is just proving to me, that He is right here with me, and sharing with me, and telling me things to help others! Nothing bad ever comes of it, only good! God has told me the numbers before they have fallen in the lottery! I've told people who were injured, what was wrong with them, and that they would be healed, and the doctor verifies what I've said. And no, I would never use this gift, for financial gain, it is just proof the the Lord is with me!

I've prayed with a friend, with cancer cells, and she was healed!

I was at the deathbed of a very dear old friend, who could actually see Jesus, standing behind my shoulder, as I was standing beside her, holding her hand! Her eyes followed the beautiful light,(she said) from the foot of the bed, up the side of the bed, until she was looking behind me! I couldn't see Him, but I could feel His presence in my body! I asked her who she saw, and she said "Jesus"

My father, who HAD melanoma cancer, has had brain surgery, twice, since finding it in his chest, and glands, and having surgery, and we had so many people praying, the first tumor was completely dead, which the surgeon has never seen, and the second completely contained! He has been cancer free, for eight years now!

My forty eight year old aunt, is alive today, because of the faith of my grandmother! She was three, and was dying in the hospital, with a noncurable disease, which is like leukemia, and causes brusing, and bleeding from the nose, ears, mouth, when near death, and my grandmother wanted to take her home for one more weekend, so the doctor allowed her to do it, since he didn't think she would make it through the next week, and she took her to a tent meeting healing service, and they all watched, as the bruises disappeared, and she stopped bleeding! The doctors were amazed, and said it was a miracle!

I have a famous friend, who has a rare form of bone cancer, and was given until 1999 to live, and he is still going strong! He lives in California, and I met him on the internet, through a prayer chain! He is a Christian, and is traveling the USA, sharing his lifes story! He is a famous author, and was the manager for the most famous rock group ever! He made it to the east coast, and visited me and my church, to share his story! He and his wife and I, had a wonderful day together, and took several pictures! His cancer has been in remission, and doing better each time the doctors test his blood! I continue to pray for his healing, so he can continue to share what the Lord has done in his life!

There is no way anyone will ever convince me, that there isn't a God! I will continue to share my testimony, because I care about you, and want you to know the joy that I feel, at the risk of what you think of me, because to be honest, what God thinks of me, is much more important than what anyone on this earth, thinks of me! There is absolutely no debate here, on this subject, with me! I pray that someday, you will know Him, like I do!

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Seems like you Kate have really been conditioned. There is a god but to say HE. That is sexist!
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God ia the positive energy in this world and beyond...
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Kate, i don't know what to say, but i am suspicious about the race thing.....
healing is a good thing, but predicting racewinners? sounds like the dark one to me...

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Kate: There is no way, I could ever convince you that God exists, unless you want to believe in Him, and you are set on believing that the power is within yourself, and around you, because YOU want to be in control,...

Art: Assume that God is the underlying non-material source of the material universe, the question is not "Does God exist?", but "What is the nature of God's existence?".

Religion asserts that morality is a part of ontology (the basis of existence), and this is nuts. Morality is restricted to being a function of human personality - it has no existence in the universe outside of personality. It is an evaluation of actual/predicted reward/punishment consequnces, and generates many kinds of good and bad feelings.

The material universe is continually unfolding in descrete steps of quantum leaps. This is produced by a quantum computation process which regulates energy to manifest physical waves and particles. Our brains particiapte in this computation, as does all things, and the sum total of this is God.

Kate:... but I can tell you,from my own testimony, that I know Jesus, on a very personal level, and there is no doubt in my mind, that HE exists, and I have given HIM control!

Art: You are nuts, in this area of your belief.

Kate: God has shown me that he is here, in supernatural ways, many times, and my husband could attest to it, because he has been involved on several occasions! I leave it up to my husband, to deny anything I ever say on this board, if I'm not saying the truth, if he so chooses; because we keep our identities separate, so we can voice our own opinions, but if it comes down to it, he can deny what I am saying, if I am not being truthful!

Art: Paranormal events do occur, but thay are really rare but natural manifestations of underlying non-material realities.

Kate: My husband has physically been picked up, held in mid air, and dropped, by an unseen force, right in front of my eyes, after he just got done saying he didn't know why God never answered his prayers!

Art: Yes, such things have happened, as well as far stranger things, but has nothing to do with God as you conceptualize God.

Kate: I have felt Gods physical presence in my body, as sort of an electrical charge, on many occasions, and touched others, without telling them, and have had them tell me they could feel it coming from my hands!

Art: Yes, non-materrial energy can be communicated.

Kate: There is such a feeling of joy, and peace when this happens! I have also prayed with someone on the internet, and touched the monitor, and they have felt the same thing! You can think this crazy, but it really happens!

Art: Something really happened, but your interpretation of it is crazy. Same applies to the other things you describe.


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The day of the race, is the day that I prayed, and asked God to let me feel his presence, and it had happened for the first time! No evil there, Glass! Only a sense of joy! If I used it for my own gain, it would be evil, but I only use it, to give glory to God! I only say HE, because he calls himself, Our Father, which art in heaven, Hallowed by thy name!

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Sorry Art, I've never been more sane! NOTHING you say, can change my mind! It might sound crazy to you, because you don't know any better, but Jesus is my best friend!
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I know what I say isn't very popular here, but Jesus wasn't popular either! They killed Him, for being a perfect person! I'll continue to live my life for Him, and try to be as much like Him as I can! I will never be perfect, but can only strive for that perfection every day of my life!
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Kate, listen to Art, you won't get a better explanation than that one (IMO)....
the creator is neither good nor evil, male nor female...

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Sorry Glass, can't do it!
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Kate, how many people die in MISERY each year from bacteria created by god?
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And how many cause it, by not living the way they should? Who dumps chemicals into our water, and buries poisons in our land? In our food? People, with free will! Who smokes cigarettes, gets lung cancer, drinks alcohol, gets liver disease, has sex with multiple partners, gets Herpes, Aids, and any other number of diseases, because they don't want to listen to God? People with the free will God gave them!! You can't blame God, for something that WE have done!
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I wonder if we ever can live in peace. So many have diff beliefs and all claim it as truth.
I also know that god is everything...no gender..and my knowing is in the heart. I have no doubt that god is all. But, kate says god is a he and she is right. That is why we have wars...I live for peace but no one can tell me and preach to me. I say truth is in the heart and for all to find it vs being dicated to or we as a human race have been.
Who really is free?? Free of the evolutionary conditioning that shape your thoughts and yet no acknowledgment that those thoughts keep you in chains.

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Art, you crack me up man.....

what good is it to be right in THESE matters if nobody believes you? LOL

it takes time to de-program people...LOL
if you haven't read Dune, and you enjoy reading, pick it up, pay special attention to the Bene Gesserit practice of seeeding planets with myth to prepare them for future visits...if you know the code, you can easily pick up the reins of power....


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The God who created everything, gave us charge over the earth, and all living things! It is up to us, what we do with it! If we all took it seriously, we would'nt have all these problems!
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maybe if we lightened up there would be no problems. Look at children, and you sse the kingdom of heaven. Children are not serious, very light...
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quote:
Originally posted by Kate:
And how many cause it, by not living the way they should? Who dumps chemicals into our water, and buries poisons in our land? In our food? People, with free will! Who smokes cigarettes, gets lung cancer, drinks alcohol, gets liver disease, has sex with multiple partners, gets Herpes, Aids, and any other number of diseases, because they don't want to listen to God? People with the free will God gave them!! You can't blame God, for something that WE have done!


Kate? all those things are mans laws....we can overcome each of those problems simply by studying them...that is what the Fruit of the tree of knowledge was....

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK GOD'S LAWS
you just can't do it


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If you believe God created everything then you have to believe that there is nothing in the Bible, His Word, that he doesn't want in there! Sure there are a few tiny things that weren't interpreted right, but not significant enough, to change anything important to the main wording and message that He wants us to know! It is the Bible, that says He! In Genesis, He said that He created man in His own image! He created Adam first! That is why I believe He is in the form of a man! If you believe God exists, and created everything, why not believe in His Word? It says many many times, in the Bible, that it is God's inspired Word! That means, he told the men what to write! He calls himself, our Father!
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Kate, you can have your HE god but it is your narrow mind that i see. anyways, i mean no harm, just that my mentality is not like yours and I resent folks like you who preach but yet condemn others.
Let others be free of your chains. God bless..and i know god but the god i know is notthe same god you know. I feel god inside and see it in all..

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Kate, remember the FREE will thing? there was/is quite a bit of free will used in "building and interpreting" the bible....
Art's statements can be supported by interpreting the Bible too but you have to ask yourself DIFFERENT questions about what the parables mean....
the bible has been used by men to take control of women, just as the Koran has....
it's an ancient struggle for power...men don't have the same power of creation that women do, so they need something to make themselves feel more important...LOL
simple inferiority complex...


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