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Wooter
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posted January 25, 2004 19:36     Click Here to See the Profile for Wooter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was watching live X games on tv today and actually think that would be a better avenue to pursue. Would fit right in with the LATE FEES SUCK slogan and market segment John seems to be after.

Think how much money Red Bull has made blitzing this type of market over the past couple of years.

Would also be a ton cheaper and allow more money to pursue other ideas.

"And now, Sal Masekela coming to you from Aspen, CO proud home of X-games IX, brought to you by the proud official sponsor of X-games IX - Veegeez.com "Late Fees Suck!" Take it away Jim....."there goes Zack Smidt doing a triple inverted sow cow mute grab off the super booter for a killer landing.'
Unbelievable!!!!......

Anyway, just an idea I had.

Mike


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Originally posted by whymejc:
It sure would be nice to get a 30 second spot during the Superbowl.

Regards


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nitroburn
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posted January 25, 2004 19:41     Click Here to See the Profile for nitroburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that the X Games are more of the target audience that VeeGeez needs. Just hope that JF and VeeGeez.com feel the same way. I'm excited to see what kind of advertisments they come up with.

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trader01
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posted January 25, 2004 19:45     Click Here to See the Profile for trader01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think cabbage is best to answer that question

quote:
Originally posted by delt16:
is that new NASD rule a big as I think it is?? this is great news for all bb stocks, right?


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stockguyDD
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posted January 25, 2004 20:43     Click Here to See the Profile for stockguyDD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you guys have some great advertisements ideas... it wouldnt hurt to pitch em at JF (the ceo).. he is very responsive to investor emails.. talk to him about your ideas and give him more of a feel of the target audience.. ideas never hurt guys.. keep it up

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stockguyDD
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posted January 25, 2004 20:45     Click Here to See the Profile for stockguyDD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
post from member VEEHAPPY found on Yahoo

GREAT article

New Entry in Online Vid Race
Sat Jan 24, 4:06 PM ET Add Movies - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Jill Kipnis

LOS ANGELES (Billboard) - There's a new kid on the block in the online video rental world.

Gameznflix.com, owned by Franklin, Ky.-based holding company Point Group Holdings Inc. (PGHI), is launching next month with an offering of DVDs and videogames.


The service's business model is similar to that of Netflix, the leading online rental company based in Los Gatos, Calif. Users will pay a monthly subscription fee that enables them to receive DVDs or games through the mail. After a subscriber returns a title in an envelope with prepaid postage provided by gameznflix.com, another title from the rental selection list they have created is sent.


"This is a long-term project that will offer an alternative to Netflix," says John Fleming, CEO/president of PGHI. "We will crawl, then we will walk and then we will see about running into the future."


Netflix ended 2003 with about 1.5 million subscribers, a 74% increase over 2002.


Fleming says that the availability of videogames will differentiate gameznflix.com from such competitors as Netflix and walmart.com, which offer only DVDs.


A Netflix representative could not be reached for comment by press time.


PGHI already has established an online videogame rental service through its 18-month-old Web site veegeez.com, which will be incorporated into gameznflix.com next month. Fleming would not disclose how many subscribers use veegeez.com.


It currently distributes veegeez.com orders through centers in San Diego and Franklin. Fleming says two more distribution centers will open soon.


At launch, gameznflix.com will offer about 50 top DVDs and a full stock of videogames. According to Fleming, 99% of published videogames, including such older titles as "Pong," will be available for rent.


"It costs $50 to buy a game. The gamer beats the game or likes it or dislikes it and is over it in about two weeks and three days," Fleming says. "Now, they can rent it for $20 a month."


Fleming would not disclose what the monthly subscription fee for gameznflix.com will be, though its veegeez.com offers plans that range from $19.95 to $39.95. For example, the $19.95 plan allows users to have two titles rented at a time, while a $29.95 plan allows four rentals at a time.


Reuters/Billboard


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nitroburn
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posted January 25, 2004 20:48     Click Here to See the Profile for nitroburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I posted this earlier, but it's a great idea that gamefly is already taking advantage of. Chack out the rent it button that someone can click on after reading a review of a game:
http://gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/914890.asp

It links directly to their site and a free 2 week trial.

If someone does put together an e-mail to JF about advertising mention this to him. It would be better to put together a collective e-mail of all of our ideas for advertising and e-mail him. Rather than a bunch of smaller ones. I also think we really need to push to get some articles or interviews done by some of the bigger gaming sites.

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cabbage22
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posted January 25, 2004 20:55     Click Here to See the Profile for cabbage22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What rule are you talking about? Naked Shorts?

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Originally posted by delt16:
is that new NASD rule a big as I think it is?? this is great news for all bb stocks, right?


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Drethar2
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posted January 25, 2004 20:59     Click Here to See the Profile for Drethar2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just went to the Gamefly site and saw that they also let you buy used games...i just thoguht how in the future Veegeez should let users be able to buy used or maybe even new games...it would make sense and just add another way for Veegeez to generate revenue

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tommy
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posted January 25, 2004 21:05     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is part of the plan for the new site.

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Originally posted by Drethar2:
I just went to the Gamefly site and saw that they also let you buy used games...i just thoguht how in the future Veegeez should let users be able to buy used or maybe even new games...it would make sense and just add another way for Veegeez to generate revenue

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trader01
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posted January 25, 2004 21:18     Click Here to See the Profile for trader01     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey does anyone remember when IBZT's keyboard thingy had an article in the Boston Globe. Then the company sort of made a PR stating its article was in the BOston Globe and the stock flew up. Shouldnt PGHI do the same thing, post a PR probably (im not sure if it was a PR) saying that it was mentioned in Billboard.

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delt16
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posted January 25, 2004 21:30     Click Here to See the Profile for delt16     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cabbage.....

This is what we are talking about..

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Originally posted by newstockpicker:
I just copied this off the BLYC thread. If you guys haven't seen it yet, it is a must SEE!!

Walt

Issue Date: 01.24.04

**SPECIAL WEEKEND EDITION**
IN THE MONEY: NASD Tightens Short Selling/Delivery Rule

By Carol S. Remond
A Dow Jones Newswires Column

NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Taking most market participants by surprise, the
National Association of Securities Dealers has drastically tightened one of
its rules governing short selling.

Known as affirmative determination, the NASD rule stipulates that brokers
and dealers engaged in a short sale transaction must make sure that shares
can be delivered by settlement time, three days later.

"We closed a loophole," said Steve Luparello, executive vice president of
Market Regulation at NASD.

Until now, non-NASD members, like specialists, option markets and foreign
brokers, weren't covered under the affirmative determination rule. That
means that non-NASD members didn't have to represent to the NASD broker
through which they conducted a short sale order that they would be able to
deliver the stock by settlement date.

A short seller typically borrows stock from a broker to sell it into the
market, betting that the share price will fall so that he can buy the stock
back at a lower price and pocket the difference.

The amended NASD affirmative determination rule, which was recently approved
by the Securities and Exchange Commission, will particularly affect short
sales conducted through foreign brokers, most specifically Canadian brokers
which have often been used by investors to sell short the stock of small
U.S. companies trading on the Over-the-counter Bulletin Board or OTCBB.

Because it's often impossible to borrow the shares of companies trading on
the OTCBB, investors and hedge funds looking to take negative bets on these
often-overvalued development-stage companies have traditionally been trading
through Canada where it's not required to borrow stock before selling it
short. The practice is known as NAKED SHORTING.
"It's part of (a broker's) supervisory responsibilities," NASD's Luparello said, adding that a non-member's previous failures to deliver should be a good indication of whether or not it will in fact be able to complete the transaction by the settlement date.

Market makers engaged in bone fide market making activities will continue to be exempt from affirmative determination.

Luparello said that, unlike a parallel SEC initiative to tighten short selling rules on the small-cap markets, the new NASD rules did not originate from worries over mounting failures to deliver stock into the national clearing system. But Luparello said the amended NASD rule fits nicely with the new short selling regulations now under consideration by the SEC.

"I think it addresses a gap and (shows) that we, like the SEC, are looking at a variety of things in this area," Luparello said.

The NASD proposal was first submitted to the SEC in November 2001, well before alleged abuses of naked shorting became the focal point of a campaign lead by some OTCBB companies in the U.S that say they have been victimized by the practice.

While some investors argue that short sellers provide a needed service to the markets, others have called for the complete abolition of short selling because of the undue pressure its puts on the shares of companies.

While market participants in the U.S. and abroad are well aware of the new short selling regulations being put forward by the SEC, known as Regulation SHO, most said they knew nothing of the NASD's plan before it became final.

"It's taken us by surprise," said Richard Thomas, head of compliance at Canadian brokerage firm Pacific International.

Although separate from it, the amended NASD rule fits tightly within the SEC's SHO which is now under review by the SEC staff after a period during which market participants were invited to comment on it.

As it stands, the new SEC short selling rules will make it easier to short large-cap stocks since they would do away with the "uptick" rule, which bans short selling on a stock when the price is falling.

But it when it comes to the small-cap markets, where it's often impossible to borrow stock, the impact of SHO will be the opposite, making it harder to short sale stock.

The new SEC rule sets a predetermined level of so-called clearing fails - cases in which a broker or investor cannot deliver stock within two days after settlement - which will trigger a 90-day blackout whereby the customer will not be allowed to short sell that security. That 90-day exemption would affect trading of U.S. securities in and outside the U.S.

The new NASD affirmative determination rule will take effect on Feb. 20.

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ct1074
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posted January 25, 2004 22:55     Click Here to See the Profile for ct1074     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is anybody concerned about how none of our recent pr's ever hit the streaming news. I have Ameritrade and none of the pr's ever showed up there. Watt's up!

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jr
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posted January 25, 2004 23:16     Click Here to See the Profile for jr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ct, i for one am definately concerned about that.. unfortunately, this will never change unless JF gives Market Wire the boot.

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Wooter
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posted January 25, 2004 23:20     Click Here to See the Profile for Wooter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To tell you the truth I could care less. More important to me is the fact that there is actual news to have a press release about. Everything else is semantics to me. Sure it would be better in the short term for the PPS but more important in the long run is that something is actually happening to warrant a PR. I am sure John understands there has been problems getting the PR's out and will fix these in due time.

Let me put it this way, given two choices which would you rather see:
A) Your favorite football team wins the Superbowl but you are in a submarine and don't hear about it until two days later.

or

B) You watch the Super Bowl on tv and see first hand your team losing.

Of course ideally you would rather attend the Super Bowl and witness first hand your team's victory, but given either of the other choices you would take choice A everyday of the week.

The big picture to me is that we are going to HAVE DVD's, a new marketing agreement and a great looking website, SOON. I think this is a great idea for a business with a viable and real market. The PR release mini-snafu is lower down on my totem pole.

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Originally posted by ct1074:
Is anybody concerned about how none of our recent pr's ever hit the streaming news. I have Ameritrade and none of the pr's ever showed up there. Watt's up!

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Wooter
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posted January 25, 2004 23:21     Click Here to See the Profile for Wooter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man I am a moron, sorry about this DP.

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Wooter
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posted January 25, 2004 23:24     Click Here to See the Profile for Wooter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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phantom1107
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posted January 25, 2004 23:27     Click Here to See the Profile for phantom1107     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fool.com news article...

By Rick Aristotle Munarriz (TMF Edible)
January 22, 2004

If you had to browse through the 15,000 available DVD titles from Netflix (Nasdaq: NFLX) to sum up its first two publicly traded years, would you go with It's a Wonderful Life or Some Like It Hot? It's hard to argue with the company's success. It is a thriving online renter of films with profitability and 1.5 million loyal customers.

While margins dipped as the company beefed up its content library and acquisition costs inched higher as it launched televised ad campaigns, the quarter was encouraging. Top-line growth accelerated in the fourth quarter relative to the year as a whole. Monthly subscriber churn fell. In other words, despite the emergence of competitors such as Wal-Mart (NYSE: WMT) and Blockbuster (NYSE: BBI), more people are sticking with Netflix.

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ignorantbliss
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posted January 25, 2004 23:40     Click Here to See the Profile for ignorantbliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump

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LATE FEES SUCK!

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BetNitAll
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posted January 25, 2004 23:45     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I contacted Ameritrade about this and was told that not all news will hit the streamer in the comand center, they are upgradig the command center...I don't know about other streamers

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Originally posted by ct1074:
Is anybody concerned about how none of our recent pr's ever hit the streaming news. I have Ameritrade and none of the pr's ever showed up there. Watt's up!

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kevinmeister
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posted January 25, 2004 23:48     Click Here to See the Profile for kevinmeister     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think about having a chat room on the GamezNflix website for people to discuss games/movies? It seems like chat rooms are big for serious gamers... A popular chat room might draw more subscribers.

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jr
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posted January 26, 2004 00:01     Click Here to See the Profile for jr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the problem isn't Ameritrade, the problem is Market WIre. none of Market Wire's pr's show up on any of my streamers, and its not just PGHI's pr's.. its the same story with every company i have seen who use Market Wire.

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ignorantbliss
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posted January 26, 2004 00:02     Click Here to See the Profile for ignorantbliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that would be an excellent idea!! Seriously, I think you should send that to JF at ceo@pghi.biz

Would certainly keep people on the site longer and draw more interest.

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Originally posted by kevinmeister:
What do you think about having a chat room on the GamezNflix website for people to discuss games/movies? It seems like chat rooms are big for serious gamers... A popular chat room might draw more subscribers.

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kcbudman
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posted January 26, 2004 00:09     Click Here to See the Profile for kcbudman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent Idea!!! I don't post much, but read everything. This is one of the best ideas I have seen regarding suggestions.

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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
I think that would be an excellent idea!! Seriously, I think you should send that to JF at ceo@pghi.biz

Would certainly keep people on the site longer and draw more interest.


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tommy
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posted January 26, 2004 00:09     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I remember that Veegeez.com used to have a message board before removing it after PGHI bought them.

It would be an awesome idea to have it back again. Also I can't wait to post about the new site on other gaming boards.

I'll have a hard time sleeping tonight, can't wait for tomorrow!

GLTA!

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Originally posted by kevinmeister:
What do you think about having a chat room on the GamezNflix website for people to discuss games/movies? It seems like chat rooms are big for serious gamers... A popular chat room might draw more subscribers.

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Mac the Knife
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posted January 26, 2004 00:14     Click Here to See the Profile for Mac the Knife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's up Meister? Guess who

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Mac the Knife
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posted January 26, 2004 00:19     Click Here to See the Profile for Mac the Knife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Kevinmeister, I think that would be a great idea. Definately email Jeff about that. Also Wooter did you ever let Jeff know about your X games marketing idea? That is another good one. I liked the way you compared it to Red Bulls marketing with the X games. Maybe Jeff already has turned these stones over but it doesn't hurt to make sure. Good job guys. Mac

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tommy
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posted January 26, 2004 00:21     Click Here to See the Profile for tommy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's John, not Jeff!

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Originally posted by Mac the Knife:
Hey Kevinmeister, I think that would be a great idea. Definately email Jeff about that. Also Wooter did you ever let Jeff know about your X games marketing idea? That is another good one. I liked the way you compared it to Red Bulls marketing with the X games. Maybe Jeff already has turned these stones over but it doesn't hurt to make sure. Good job guys. Mac

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Mac the Knife
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posted January 26, 2004 00:23     Click Here to See the Profile for Mac the Knife     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Tommy,

My best friend is Jeff Fleming. Sorry

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cabbage22
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posted January 26, 2004 01:03     Click Here to See the Profile for cabbage22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like regulation SHO has finally swung into action. This will be very positive for many stocks that have been victims of naked shorts. It does not prevesnt regular MM's from naked shorting however.

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tommy
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I don't think that the stock market, especially the penny world, will ever be squeaky clean. However, with this regulation in place, there will be less criminal activities coming from Canada and other countries that allow individuals to short and only cover a LONG time afterwards.

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Originally posted by cabbage22:
It looks like regulation SHO has finally swung into action. This will be very positive for many stocks that have been victims of naked shorts. It does not prevesnt regular MM's from naked shorting however.

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sammad
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posted January 26, 2004 04:35     Click Here to See the Profile for sammad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have just opened an account on Ameritrade and i am going not to be able wire in money until 10 a.m. I am very interested in PGHI and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions of when to buy it and at what price I should try to buy the stock at.

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nitroburn
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posted January 26, 2004 04:38     Click Here to See the Profile for nitroburn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO as soon as possible and anything under .06. Actually at any price because this is one of the few OTCBB companies that will be around for a long time. Nowhere to go but up.

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mistikal07
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posted January 26, 2004 05:12     Click Here to See the Profile for mistikal07     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMO, If you can't wait, early AM place a bid to get some shares. If you do some TA, you'll notice that there is a big CHANCE that the downtrend is over if you analyze the DOJI candlestick created on Friday where the bulls are coming back into play.

Or you can view it even further as a continuation with the handle of the cup rounding off.

With the mix of a positive article (billboard), looks like an UP day on Monday.

Only my humble opinion, anything under .056 is a steal for now. GLTA.

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This weekends billboard magazine article should bring in new investors. This will be a very exciting week for us...I hope that everyone got back in last week. If not, shame on ya...lol

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posted January 26, 2004 09:13     Click Here to See the Profile for ignorantbliss     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You guys need to watch ARGY this week and see how they do since they just announced their PPM is complete with $2,750,000 in financing from private investors.

This could be a sign of whats to come when PGHI announces the same.

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drwright68
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twice that...hehehehehehhe
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Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
You guys need to watch ARGY this week and see how they do since they just announced their PPM is complete with $2,750,000 in financing from private investors.

This could be a sign of whats to come when PGHI announces the same.


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posted January 26, 2004 09:28     Click Here to See the Profile for dazedtrader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice opening today at .054

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posted January 26, 2004 09:39     Click Here to See the Profile for ws_bbl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pullback to 0.05 within 30 minutes? Same story every day imo. Not complaining though.

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Originally posted by dazedtrader:
Nice opening today at .054

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posted January 26, 2004 09:45     Click Here to See the Profile for BetNitAll     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think were going to see a pullback with in 30 mins Still alot of buying pressure. We are most likely going to see another all time high today

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posted January 26, 2004 09:48     Click Here to See the Profile for ws_bbl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really love to be wrong this time

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I don't think were going to see a pullback with in 30 mins Still alot of buying pressure. We are most likely going to see another all time high today

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i agree, we should see an new high today, with more investor interest.

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I don't think were going to see a pullback with in 30 mins Still alot of buying pressure. We are most likely going to see another all time high today

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COOLORANGEFREEZE
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posted January 26, 2004 09:56     Click Here to See the Profile for COOLORANGEFREEZE     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.056x.058

Vol 3800000

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posted January 26, 2004 09:56     Click Here to See the Profile for dazedtrader     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like what I'm seeing .... .058 and climbing

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posted January 26, 2004 10:11     Click Here to See the Profile for BelgarathGFRPG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
5 million volume already.

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stockguyDD
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posted January 26, 2004 10:11     Click Here to See the Profile for stockguyDD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MM signal of 200 on pghi

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drwright68
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nice, we have already traded fri's volume in first 45 mins!

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posted January 26, 2004 10:16     Click Here to See the Profile for chrissy_a     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
200 ---- thats a gap up right

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Notice how we have went from big coffee mugs to a tiny tea cup on the chart? The cup patterns appear to be tightening up... maybe an additional sign of a near-future breakout... inevitable with PGHI, IMHO

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does any1 know why the spread is staying small... the ask didnt rise during the run after the MM signal and then it hit pressure and retraced a little.. is it that the MMs didnt want a run up 2 fast so they capped it?

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posted January 26, 2004 10:27     Click Here to See the Profile for ws_bbl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Level II sais bid 0.056 then 3 times 0.055

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Originally posted by stockguyDD:
does any1 know why the spread is staying small... the ask didnt rise during the run after the MM signal and then it hit pressure and retraced a little.. is it that the MMs didnt want a run up 2 fast so they capped it?

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