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Don't you ever sleep? LOL

Yeah, what he said! I plan on picking some more of this up, providing someone will sell me some....

GLTA!

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quote:
Originally posted by FrankNitti:
Don't you ever sleep? LOL

Yeah, what he said! I plan on picking some more of this up, providing someone will sell me some....

GLTA!

lol,lol, my dog woke me up!!
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radar close-jmo--around 200 million volume would take out the .0002's--that is just 1 big buyer with 40k, so .0002's could go quick--G/L all
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9 million buy took out another mm now just 5 left at .0002 ask
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Historical Time & Sales
Stock Symbol Trade Date Price Range Trade Size Trades per Page
Today 1 day ago 2 days ago 3 days ago 4 days ago Min Max Min Max (Max 400)


SMAS(2007/12/06)
Time (EST) Volume Price Exchange Bought/Sold Tran/Type Legend
11:49:45 6000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:36:27 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:36:27 1000000 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:35:57 9000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:35:57 9000000 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:07:42 1515000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:20:57 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:19:42 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
09:37:36 520000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
09:34:48 2550000 0.0002 OTCEQ_NBB

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here we go! [Eek!]
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Looking very tasty. Up to 32.5M volume now with 22.5M going for the .0002 Ask. Looks like something's going on.
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then the brakes go on. DOH
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yes, lol--just a matter of us waiting, and letting people realize they cannot buy at .0001--then our .0002's will go quick
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started yesterday with 7 mms at .0002 down to 5 run baby run!
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now just 4 mm's left at .0002 ask--beter get in--jmho
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little shake down to .0001's This thing is getting ready to take off.
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Volume is very heavy!
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trading today-Historical Time & Sales
Stock Symbol Trade Date Price Range Trade Size Trades per Page
Today 1 day ago 2 days ago 3 days ago 4 days ago Min Max Min Max (Max 400)


SMAS(2007/12/06)
Time (EST) Volume Price Exchange Bought/Sold Tran/Type Legend
15:04:03 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:58:33 600001 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:58:09 9999999 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
13:33:51 600000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:33:39 2200000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
13:33:27 99999 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
12:36:48 100000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:57:42 350000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:49:45 6000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:36:27 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:36:27 1000000 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:35:57 9000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
11:35:57 9000000 0.0001 - OTCEQ_NBB
11:07:42 1515000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:20:57 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
10:19:42 1000000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
09:37:36 520000 0.0002 + OTCEQ_NBB
09:34:48 2550000 0.0002 OTCEQ_NBB

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golden coming!!! http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui
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quote:
Originally posted by gramlich:
golden coming!!! http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui

yes indeed!!
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Very nice chart Gramlich! I'm so excited!


Kinda reminds me of "Army of Darkness"......

BOOOOOOOOMSTICK!!!!!

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any day would could get the press about when the Tv. channels start, and that will be the day the .0002's are gone forever--jmho
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no .0001 prints at all Friday. all at .0002--but it needs volume--then we move--tic-tok on the big pr.
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this coming week, or the following week, just waiting for our PPS to expload=----tic,tok,-- http://www.peacheykeene.com/300%20time%20bomb.gif
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accumulation is off the chart almost-- http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SMAS&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p49691487601
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lot of talk about SMAS on a lot of boards this weekend--this might be our week!!
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good .0002 buys early
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It's still holding strong at .0002, with just a little more volume, we could be seeing .0003 real soon.
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slow day--everyone waiting on big news
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just 3 mm's left at .0002 ask--there was 4
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And now it's back down to .0001
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This will run hard very soon with the advent of the TV program. The wall of .0002 is coming down slowly. i expect this to hit.0015 at least

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golden cross soon--when 50 day crosses the 200 day, a lot more buyers will jump in. also huge accumulation and money flow going up-- http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SMAS&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=5&id=p31913145522
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we are ready to rock on the next good pr. jmho
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huge answers from the ceo today-
email from the ceo-to all my questions----------------Your Second Round of Questions
1. Are you very intent on moving up to the OTCBB in 2008?
Yes, we intend to up-list to the OTC Bulletin Boards in 2008.

We believe the smartest strategy for building a strong public company from the Pink Sheets is to concentrate on stabilizing the fundamentals of both the public and operational sides of the company -- to increase company value and stock value through both business growth and a steady progress toward higher stock exchanges.

Our first steps in the up-listing project were to reorganize our internal accounting practices to make them most suited to auditing and full reporting; we did that. Our next steps were to provide maximum financial disclosure; we did that. We published all historical financials dating back to the time we went public (this was not necessary for Pink Sheets -- all we needed to be rated current in our financials was to report the previous quarter).

We are now investigating auditing firms to begin the process that will make us fully reporting and ready to move up to the Bulletin Boards and beyond.

2. Are you aware that there are not many pinksheet companies that file financials? This very legit on your part. I assume you file so you can move to a higher exchange like the OTCBB?
Thank you. We feel more comfortable and secure about building our company if we do so with ALL of our ducks in a row -- building health in our clients or our company means all the pieces are taken care of and made strong, ethical, and successful.

If you think about it, this really what people mean by “holistic” -- which really just means we are practicing what we preach, so to speak: We are not claiming to be good in one area (our business, our stock, our technique, our products, etc.), but then being rotten or broken in other areas. If one builds a house with one corner of the foundation weak or poorly laid, you are risking the whole structure falling in (especially the bigger it gets). We are building something we think will be here and growing dramatically for decades to come.

3. When are the new financials coming out?
Our next release of financials will be out on schedule, in the first quarter of next year.

4. Is there financial aid available for a person who wants to get certified and open their own Somatics classes?
Yes. If you look at our older press releases, you will see that early in 2007 we discussed plans and efforts to offer financial aid for our student, and by the August we had launched the program. At this point, there are a variety of options, including loans through an arrangement with Bank of America that provides favorable interest rates and more cash upfront to our company. Another really accessible and manageable program we offer is an in-house aid option where students can pay as little as $150-300 per month; this is about what college students pay for student loan programs while under financial hardship, so I think this is a pretty attractive opportunity.

In another example of the business model we have created that delivers a lot of win-win scenarios for customer and company simultaneously (and people and profit simultaneously), this program that makes the training more affordable to many more people also provides us with a minimum of 10% additional revenue on tuition. At the current $10,000 tuition per student, every 8 students on the most modest (and low risk to us) financial aid package produces the equivalent of another student’s worth of tuition.

5. Any plans for opening new classes in CA other parts of the US or out of the country?
Yes, we do have plans to open Professional Training Program classes in other cities. Right now, they all operate out of our Northampton, MA headquarters. We would like to start offering a minimum of 3 training programs per year, each in a different geographic location. When we build strong business in those, we can add more training locations. Right now, people travel from all over the country (and from other countries) to attend our trainings, but opening in new cities will certainly reach many more prospective students from different areas.

We are also very excited to operate Professional Trainings internationally. Some of the many places that we think would be very successful and strategic are Germany, France, England, and Poland. Germany in particular has a lot of interest in Somatics, and is even more enthusiastic than the US in their response to Somatics. We have had strong requests from physical therapists from Poland to train people there, and that market seems very receptive to it. We also have some direct research indicating strong interest in India. Of course, China is an obvious choice for almost any health business, and we are looking into starting there by launching a consumer exercise product there to begin building our market.

If you read the answers to your questions below about opening new clinics, you will see that we have plans to open clinics nationwide. One of the exciting things about Somatic Systems is that growth in each revenue division (Clinics, products, training) tends to promote growth of the other divisions, and expansion of our brick-and-mortar Clinics provides an important platform for our other divisions as well: Opening a clinic in Chicago or California, for example -- two areas that are both great markets and geographically distinct from the New England where we train now -- is a huge step towards launching a Professional Training there. It provides virtually all of the infrastructure we need, and it creates a foothold in that market, a powerful base of operations to recruit enrollment for a successful training.

You can also read the answers to your questions below about training class size and duration to learn more about our flexible training scheduling formats and how many different ways the training can be provided, as well as our plans for multiple classes.

6. What would it mean to your company to get VA approval? Are you working toward that goal?
There are at least 3 different forms of military approval, all of which we are working on obtaining:

(1) Approval as a service and provider, so military personnel and veterans could receive Somatics treatments by Somatic Systems, and the federal government would pay for it. We have already presented and even demonstrated Somatics on important military officers, who have indicated repeatedly and emphatically that they believe Somatics is a valuable treatment for personnel and veterans, and that approval is a realistic possibility for Somatic Systems.

(2) Approval to provide services to VA hospital patients, both in the form of treatments and workshops and medical education of hospital staff. To achieve this, we are working with local VA hospitals to provide paid presentations about Somatics for these purposes, to more than 20 doctors and nurses at each presentation.

(3) Approval to provide services to the staff of VA hospitals, in several forms including Continuing Medical Education and staff healthcare workshops. For example, the VA provides regular half- and full-day workshops for staff -- whose content is based on staff demand -- and staff commonly request chronic pain management and stress management.

7. The 2 new books coming out -- where would they be available? On the somatics.org web site? Any other places where you could buy the books? Amazon, Barnes and Noble? etc.?
These will not be vanity books: They will be published nationally like any other book, and available at all major outlets -- both online and brick-and-mortar, including Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc.

Take, for example, one of the forthcoming books, by John Loupos. John is an author with 3 nationally published books under his belt already, all of which have received 5-star ratings on Amazon. If you visit his studio outside of Boston, you will see posters of him from some of his in-person appearances at Barnes & Noble as well.

The TV that is coming soon, on WE TV and the Travel Channel -- will it air one time or run more than once?
We are told that it will run one time each on We TV and the Travel Channel (it’s certainly possible it will run more, but the contracts only guarantee one time), and will be syndicated on 24 other stations nationwide.

We have also bought the license for our feature, so we can offer it to other outlets. We will be making it available to as many viewers as we can.

8. What are your plans for growing the company? and any plans for helping the PPS rise to where you think fair value should be for your company?
We are growing the company on a variety of fronts. Our business model has 3 basic divisions -- rolling out clinics, increasing product sales worldwide, and expanding professional training programs. These basic building blocks allow us to also focus on key strategies such as work with military, athletics, and corporations -- since the 3 divisions provide the services for these strategies and are in turn grown by any successes in these strategies.

In addition to those bigger strategies, as you know we are engaging in a substantially increased marketing, branding, and public awareness presence next year. These efforts are intended to grow all 3 of our divisions, in scale and revenues. This ultimately means clinics in every major city, three or more new training programs per year across the country and then in Europe, and product sales growing by thousands of percent.

Some details of growth are discussed in answers to your other questions as well, but please let me know if I can provide additional clarity on our growth plans. In a nutshell…

we will continue to expand our product lines and channels for selling them;
we will market to grow profitability in our existing clinics and training program, and grow new sites as well;
we will continue to publish information about Clinical Somatics to expand opportunities for our products and services in new settings;
and we will continue to add to the licenses and accreditations for our training program, so it can enroll additional demographics, have a presence in higher and higher academic settings, and raise tuitions as we provide continuing education credits for higher health professionals (doctors, nurses, physical therapists) and as our access to financial aid programs improve.
Regarding the share price, we think building the company into a strong, stable, and lucrative enterprise is one of the best things we can do for the share price (just as larger companies do on higher stock exchanges). We are also pursuing more immediate avenues for increased price per share, including continually increasing and improving our IR/PR efforts and campaigns. We believe our work on this front -- to keep expanding awareness of SMAS and all that it offers -- is paying off, as we currently have the highest bid strength the stock has ever seen. We continue to work on other short-term and long-term projects to build interest, support, and excitement for shareholders and potential shareholders: This includes business efforts that are particularly meaningful to shareholders, such as television coverage and partnerships with big entities; and it also includes development efforts that shareholders want to see, such as increased disclosures, full-reporting status, and up-listing to the OTCBB.


Your First Round of Questions
How many employees do you have?
5-10 for now, depending on time of year (e.g., during training programs, we add a number of additional full-time staffers). We are tiny compared to where we need to and will be in the near future.

Is the company operating in the black yet?
No, but all the infrastructure and components of our business plan are in place. With the marketing plans and opportunities of the coming year (2008), we expect to increase capacity and volume sufficiently to operate in the black even at our current number of locations. On top of this, opening additional clinics and training sites will increase revenue dramatically.

When will financials be out?
Our next release of financials will be out on schedule, in the first quarter of next year.

Do you have an exact date for when the TV promotions start?
I just met with the producers again this past week; we will PR the dates when we have them.

Do you have an exact date for the first book?
No exact date yet, but I actually met with the author of one of the books today, just a few hours ago. As stated, he already has a publisher, but he is right now shopping a few other publishers to potentially expand the audience and profile of the book even further.

A bound copy of the finished manuscript is sitting right beside my keyboard right now, with many of the final illustrations and photographs already included. Somatic Systems is featured starting with the second paragraph of the first chapter:

“I have been passionate about Clinical Somatic Education since my very first hands-on encounter. Approximately one year prior to that encounter, I’d injured my shoulder through overuse, badly enough that I was in constant discomfort and occasional outright pain with a much restricted range of motion. I developed what is known in the vernacular as a ‘frozen shoulder’. Being a martial arts professional, an injury such as I’d incurred went beyond mere inconvenience. My very career was at risk. I pursued a litany of alternative approaches, including chiropractic, deep tissue massage, homeopathy, acupuncture, and even more conventional physical therapy in an effort to resolve my shoulder issue, all to no avail. Then, at some point, I had the recollection of reading Thomas Hanna’s book, Somatics, several years earlier. This prompted a web search that led me to the Somatic Systems Institute (SSI) in Northampton, MA. Northampton was a good two-hour drive for me, but Somatic Systems Institute housed the nearest qualified practitioner, so I called for an appointment and schlepped on out. There I met SSI founder Steven Aronstein. A single one-hour session with Steve was all that was required to put my shoulder back in full working order. I walked in with a bad wing and walked out ready to fly, my shoulder restored to 100% functioning after a year of constant pain and stiffness. Amidst my delight and amazement at having recovered full use of my shoulder in such short order and in the absence of any invasive procedures, the implications for myself and my own students were immediately obvious. The very next week I inquired about practitioner training and signed on for the first available training module. I’ve not had cause to regret my decision, and since early on in my training I’ve been so fortunate as to help many others in similarly dire need…”

Do you have a rough percentage of insider stock ownership?
Over 4 billion shares are owned by insiders. So, of the 6+ billion shares outstanding, approximately 66% or more are owned by insiders.

When will the 4 billion restricted shares become free tradable?
All of the 4 billion restricted shares were issued since the summer of 2006, when we went public; many of them were issued as recently as this year. Restricted shares do not become free tradable for 2 years, unless the shareholder hires an attorney to produce a legal opinion -- in which case the shares are still restricted for at least one year.

Based on when they were issued and to whom, most of these shares should stay restricted until Summer 2008 (less than a billion) or Spring or Summer 2009 (most of the remaining 3 billion). See below for an explanation of why I say this below…

We went public through a reverse merger, so a few 100 million shares were issued to the original controlling shareholders and related consultants. Certainly, some of these investors would be likely to pay the attorney costs to make their shares free-trading; however, it appears that they have already made most of _those_ restricted shares free-trading by now.

Most of the currently restricted shares are owned by insiders and small-time friends and family of the company; these restricted shareholders are not only highly supportive of the company, but also are not interested in nor easily able to hire attorneys to obtain legal opinions. These are not “traders”, and -- instead of spending money on attorneys’ fees to sell their shares at the current undervalued market price -- would much rather hold on to the stock indefinitely or for a long-enough-time to sell when the price is much higher.

Remember that most of these restricted shares are actually insider-owned, and those shareholders will most likely hold for a long time (in some cases until retirement), to keep stake in the company as well as support the higher share prices that keep their company and jobs healthy.

Timeline on moving to the OTCBB?
We expect to move to the Bulletin Boards in 2008. We are currently selecting auditors, to begin that most crucial step of audited financials and full-reporting status.

ABOUT THE COMPANY
If you maxed out the trainings that you teach to become certified, how many students could you teach at one time?
Our current models are to train 40 students at one time in one class. This is a really nice balance of managing staff and students, and everything after the first 15 students is profit for the training division.

We also have models for doing the same training, with the same quality and experience, with an 80-student class. In some ways, this might be more lucrative, but with larger facilities and overhead costs, we will think 40 is the sweet-spot: Given the market landscape for Somatics, we think the more strategic (and ultimately more profitable) approach to serve the same 80 students is to have 2 trainings of 40 students each in 2 different locations. This would more easily and concretely reach more markets — getting more enrollment from desirable students who would otherwise not attend in other regions, creating much more awareness, developing local connections and paving the way for more clinics chain expansion.

Of course, when Somatics explodes nationwide and beyond, we can operate in a college/university model, where 100’s or 1,000’s of students travel from all over the world, like they would to a top-notch medical school, to attend either modular programs or full-time accelerated programs. There are plenty of current and prospective Somatics personnel who would be happy to train practitioners full-time, year-round in this kind of scenario.

We are very clear about the fact that we are not just introducing a new pain care technique into existing markets, but also creating a whole new field health care. We take the responsibility very seriously, and thus have plans and projections (both proactive and reactive) for years to come, with contingencies and flexibility and scalability for a variety of scenarios and paces and twists and turns and pleasant surprises.

Also how long are the certification training programs?
A training class (meaning from matriculation to graduation) is approximately 500 hours. Currently, those hours are conducted over the course of about 24 months, divided up into 3 semesters (with time in between each semester to practice and complete some homework).

The most popular and flexible 24-month format for the 3 semesters is what we call “modular scheduling”. This means each semester is composed of 2 intensive modules of training. Each module is 9 days long -- running from one Saturday to the following Sunday. (This enables students currently in other job situations to only have to take off one work week per module.) So, each semester consists of only 18 days total -- i.e. two 9-day modules about three months apart. Then the students go back to their lives for about 6 months, and then return to do the next semester, consisting of 2 more 9-day modules about three months apart; then six months later they do their final 2 9-day modules three months apart and graduate.

We cram a lot of training in these short modules, but we use best teaching practices and students will tell you how much and how well they learn the material. We are very proud of our methods, and we think that -- in addition to the actual groundbreaking techniques of Somatics -- our training is one of the most competitive and impressive systems we operate. We have been told it is an unparalleled experience, as impressive as the Somatics treatments themselves.

Because of our methods, students can actually begin working with clients after only their first semester, believe it or not. They may not treat chronic pain as quickly, and they may need to refer out to advanced practitioners for more complicated clients, but they help a lot of people at a lower cost. First year students are amazed at how much more they know about how to help chronic pain sufferers than many health care professionals with very high-level degrees and years of experience. I recall the student who marveled at spending only 18 days in our training, and then finding himself in the position of the advanced practitioner to whom chiropractors and physical therapists were sending their VIP clients -- and even their spouses -- who they could not help.

At the current stage of company and markets, the 2-year training cycle works very well for us: The most development and support of practitioners with the least amount of overhead and resource allocation. And it has been a smart balance of growing the right synergy of supply and demand, demand and supply. However, keep in mind that the modular format of our training was a very deliberate move on our parts: We have an extremely flexible delivery system that is, well, modular. With the click of a mouse we can operate an accelerated training process at a variety of different paces. So, if demand spiked so much that our existing practitioner population was insufficient to staff an urgent demand for so many new Somatic Systems clinics, we could operate a job recruitment and in-house staff training and fill more clinics. Our innovative, flexible format also provides a lot of really exciting potential for integration and adaptation of different training formats, so, for example -- without having to retool at all -- we could convert/”retrofit” whole populations of physical therapists, chiropractors, orthopedists, etc. in academic or corporate settings. (This is part of the reason for our headquarters’ location in a region of over 15 colleges, including several very prestigious institutions.)

Any plans to open more offices?
Yes. We have identified a number of strategic locations for office and clinic expansion, based on their current and potential markets; their proximity to important company growth projects, contacts, and institutions; and existing relationships with key personnel and their connections. In fact, based on these criteria, we already have a flexible and fairly lengthy roadmap for rollout of specific clinic locations as our business plan progresses.

Funding and revenues go into growing the company -- we have spent this year enhancing our infrastructure. Our next phase is dramatically increasing demand and awareness (consumer, corporate, and professional) through marketing, public relations, and public education: You can see these plans implemented in the upcoming television shows; efforts with military, athletics, and businesses; books; and more.

Opening new locations both creates and is made possible by this increased demand and awareness. We strive to grow in a genuine and sustainable manner, so we are not a PinkSheet joke that disappears overnight; clinic openings will reflect this smart and lucrative approach. Look at Apple Computer’s store openings since they launched brick-and-mortar locations in 2001 for a model. They have used stores to increase awareness, market share, and general brand foothold, and they’ve done so in a strategic and sustainable way that has built a strong base of assets, net worth, and increased value. That’s the approach we are taking.

Of course, just like Apple, smart sustainable growth can mean opening a lot of stores each year. Given the relative ease and affordability of launching a Somatics clinic location, when demand spikes very quickly (either through some of our marketing opportunities next year and afterwards, or when the inevitable time comes that a big media outlet or celebrity creates awareness of us overnight the way Oprah did for Dr. Phil, Spanx, etc. etc.) to enable rapid expansion, we could open in quite a few locations all at once quickly.

Any plans to open any offices in California?
Yes. We have identified 3 key locations in California. One doesn’t have local practitioners yet, but its high profile location would make it worth relocating to when the time comes. The other two locations have practitioners ready, and one of those locations is expected to become one of our important executive offices and national training centers. Depending on how things go with negotiations in the next month, there’s a slim chance that we could open that executive location in Q1 of next year, but it is much more likely it would be no sooner than Q3.

If you get VA approval, would the GI Bill pay for the certification classes for any VA person that would like to get certified and open their own office?
Title 38 Veterans Benefits provide funding for a variety of educational, job training, and business opportunities. Just as we are pursing approval of Somatics as a provider for military personnel and veterans, and for VA employees -- so the government will pay for Somatics to help all these populations get out of pain-- we would also like to see approval for government funding of veterans to attend our training program and open a Somatics business; certainly, we think the fact that a veteran trained by us could very likely graduate and begin working in our clinics to provide care for his fellow veterans would a be great, low-risk investment in rehabilitating our veterans’ job situation.

We have already had students who attended our training program through funding from government or corporate job retraining programs. For example, one student was a lab technician being paid to retrain with us due to workplace injury caused chronic shoulder and wrist pain disability. (…Although, ironically, the Somatics treatments she was trained to perform on clients could have also just been used with her as a client to treat her own disability and allow her to return to her previous job -- saving her employer thousands of dollars. This is why corporate programs are a huge win for all three parties -- for employers’ workforce management and bottom line; for employees’ livelihood, health and happiness; and for Somatic Systems’ revenue and growth).

As you know military contracts are both very lucrative and very complicated to obtain. We are eager to achieve this goal, and are currently working on 6 different avenues and contacts to make this happen.


Question from Another Shareholder
Steve, I sent you some of my questions in an earlier email this morning. This was from another investor on the boards -- maybe you could answer it also?
As a former physical therapist, one more think to think about is "crossover" from other fields, i.e. PT's, OT's, Chiropractors, sports medicine clinical personnel, etc.
If THEIR reimbursement goes down (from payer sources like Medicare, HMO's, etc), then they'll be looking to alternative sources of revenue. In comes Somatics. Most likely not covered by many insurance plans (yet), but when someone's in pain, they're willing to pay whatever the cost to try to alleviate it. Also, to try to avoid epidurals (many risks and lose their effectiveness over time), surgery, and disability.
So..........there are MANY different scenarios that may play out here.
We too are troubled by the use of epidurals and cortisone injections! There are great risks to them -- in terms of greater damage and pain that can be caused to the patient long-term, etc. -- and, while these risks are known and acknowledged by doctors and physical therapists, many clients report not being adequately informed of these risks.

Back surgeries are one example of chronic pain surgeries that are known to be ineffective. Again, doctors themselves will tell you that their efficacy rate is 50%, meaning there as likely to be of no help as they are not. If an experimental treatment had this kind of track record, conventional medicine would likely call these results random at best. And there are plenty of examples of back and other orthopedic surgeries that leave the patients in worse shape than they were before. Our clients and colleagues will be the first to line up to tell you some of those stories from what they went through before Somatics.

No one has to be left behind with Somatics. We would welcome the opportunity to retrain every physical therapist, chiropractor, sports medicine practitioner, etc. In fact, some of the most excited students in our Professional Training Program are exactly these health practitioners -- physical therapists, chiropractors, sports medicine practitioners, etc. They are overjoyed to finally have a technique that achieves the results they always wanted to get with their clients. We already have physical therapists and chiropractors who -- after literally decades of financially successful careers -- simply dropped their current practices to replace them with Somatics; that’s how good Clinical Somatics is and how easy it is for experts to see that.

Does Medicare pay for Somatics treatments? What about private insurance companies or HMO's?
Insurance companies will sometimes pay for Clinical Somatics treatments. This has been inconsistent and largely on a case-by-case basis. Our policy is for clients to pay out-of-pocket (like they do for many kinds of manual therapies), and then we provide them with what documentation they need to get reimbursed by their insurance provider. We are working to get Clinical Somatics covered by all insurance companies across the board.

By the way, insurance companies that actually bother to do the math on the cost-savings of Somatics tend to become very interested in paying for Somatics. One example of this is a Worker’s Compensation insurer who reviewed their client’s file, and saw that the only relief she ever got from the back pain that kept her disabled and out of work was the one session she had in Somatics. Once they realized this, they immediately began paying for more Somatics treatments.

These kinds of stories are all good news, because it shows that one of the major routes to achieving insurance coverage is simply getting insurance companies to understand the clear bottom line advantage that Somatics provides.

On the other hand, even without insurance coverage, Somatics is a clear value for clients, and is relatively affordable even in absolute dollar terms, compared to other options for their conditions. Remember that the number of visits required for Somatics to resolve a problem is generally much shorter than for other treatments for the same condition. Clients may only pay a $10 to $40 co-payment for a chiropractor or physical therapist, but the amount of visits they will have to go to means they usually pay more out-of-pocket for those practitioners than they will pay us in full at $100+ per session. We have clients -- from upper class to working class -- who have paid us $300 or $400 to get complete relief from their problem, after they had already paid a physical therapist or massage therapist $700 (out-of-pocket, after insurance) and were still in pain.

I think this is another example of the win-win equation of Somatics. It’s a great deal for client and corporation alike. Even with clients paying full prices (which are lucrative to Somatic Systems), the relative costs are low for them. And for many conditions, Somatics gets clients out of pain or other problems that nothing else -- no matter what it costs -- could help.

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Crazy volume on this today.
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I was able to get in for ALOT more yesterday at .0001. I'm going to keep accumulating in the .0001s and .0002s

expect big things to come boys and girls

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quote:
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I was able to get in for ALOT more yesterday at .0001. I'm going to keep accumulating in the .0001s and .0002s

expect big things to come boys and girls

Who's selling at .0001? Dilution?

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Can't answer that. All i'm saying is that I'm going to keep buying.
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