quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: Apology accepted. I am in this stock too. I just don't like all the speculation here. Facts are better.
Go hang out on the SEC.gov web site. As far as I know they are the web site I know that actively enforces their "No Speculation" rule. You can't just get mad because emotion gets involved.
This thread is and always has been about the DD. Go back and read.
-------------------- Una Mas! Posts: 2717 | From: Eville,IN,USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Honestly, what doesn't make sense about it? Those of us who believe Rufus is on the up and up are willing to take a chance on this. Personally, I'm not gambling anything I cannot afford to lose. If you're in a situation where you cannot afford to lose your investment, then yes, flip away. Protect your capital for sure. A lot of us are just enjoying the ride though.
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Honestly, what doesn't make sense about it? Those of us who believe Rufus is on the up and up are willing to take a chance on this. Personally, I'm not gambling anything I cannot afford to lose. If you're in a situation where you cannot afford to lose your investment, then yes, flip away. Protect your capital for sure. A lot of us are just enjoying the ride though.
I did not say anything negative....just the facts: where I got out at .98 and what my plan was afterwards. If you found that at all offensive then you are in love with the stock, and have violated the great piece of advice:
"Never, no matter how promising, fall in love with a stock"
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Hmmmmmmmmm i must be the only idiot on this board keeping my money in the bank.NOTTTTTTTTTTTT LOL
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I think this is why Rufus isn't going to file the 10k just yet, I think he wants shareholders to realize what they have... -hence the parade of PR's that will now happen. MO
And as far as buyers, there are traders who only play IPO's.. Heck Google (which Rufus likened to CSHD) opened I believe for $100 a share and then doubled in one day didn't it?!!
Now if they keep nailing down deals like they just posted, what trader wouldn't buy at $15?? And institutional buyers buy by the truckload! Go to Investorsbusinessdaily dot com and on their front page they LIST what the Big Boys are buying and selling.
TAX-
I traded google on opening day. IPO was a tues. you could have gotten it for $85. First trading day was a thurs. it opened at $95. EOD frist day $102 w a high of $104. I do think it got to $120 in the first few days trading but even day twos high was only like $108.
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OK...everyone...settle down...I know the wait is getting rough..but I am seeing posters that aren't bashing post opinions and "goodluck" wishes and peeps are "jumping" on them...relax... You don't always need to defend your choices...IMO
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quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Sure it does... you said you sold out at .98... I said good for you. Many holding this stock got in as early as 0.10 to 0.20 so the chance that you made some money is very possible.
More shares for us is that I and many others here are still buying up cheap shares and holding until the 10K and reset.
Imaginary storm is a direct analogy to this mornings sell-off which we have seen several times here over the past few weeks. Someone starts a bad rumor to scare people out of their shares and the rumor turns out to be "imaginary" or false.
Sorry if you had any problems comprehending, but for you to waste your time posting on a public message board that you have sold your position and will never buy-in again. With out giving one additional reason as to why you are "done" is border-line misleading. Like you have some sort of regret and we should too.
Personally, when I sell out of a stock because I have made my money, or (hopefully not... knock on wood) lost my money. I usually go on to start researching and investgating my next investment. I definitely do not hang myself on the wall of the old stocks message board notifying everyone of my decision, as if I am hoping someone will care enough to sell their position as well to make me feel better.
What really did you hope to accomplish by telling us you are out and will never buy CSHD again. A sticker? Sympathy? Praise? am I getting close? If all you want is someone to ask you why you made such a life defining decision... well I am all ears. Please tell me what made you finally decide to sell, share with me? If it is that important I would like to know so I can go check it out for myself (If this thread has not already done so.)
Please share...
TB
-------------------- Una Mas! Posts: 2717 | From: Eville,IN,USA | Registered: Feb 2004
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quote:Originally posted by thecon00: I think this is why Rufus isn't going to file the 10k just yet, I think he wants shareholders to realize what they have... -hence the parade of PR's that will now happen. MO
And as far as buyers, there are traders who only play IPO's.. Heck Google (which Rufus likened to CSHD) opened I believe for $100 a share and then doubled in one day didn't it?!!
Now if they keep nailing down deals like they just posted, what trader wouldn't buy at $15?? And institutional buyers buy by the truckload! Go to Investorsbusinessdaily dot com and on their front page they LIST what the Big Boys are buying and selling.
TAX-
I traded google on opening day. IPO was a tues. you could have gotten it for $85. First trading day was a thurs. it opened at $95. EOD frist day $102 w a high of $104. I do think it got to $120 in the first few days trading but even day twos high was only like $108.
then that would be my mistake, I was only half watching it, that is why I posted that as "I believe" and not as fact. -but I thought it did do that... hmmm.
Regardless it was almost at $400 last Thursday, it's at $378 now ~
But hopefully you get the point I was trying to make, which is that if the book value is higher then the price, it will climb toward it. That's all...
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...everyone...settle down...I know the wait is getting rough..but I am seeing posters that aren't bashing post opinions and "goodluck" wishes and peeps are "jumping" on them...relax... You don't always need to defend your choices...IMO
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About this Schwab letter...I don't understand what other brokers would be gaining by having access to these shares. Seems like the only reason for this would be more short selling...not covering. How could they cover when they are still only borrowing shares. I guess they might be trying to convert their naked shorts to real shorts, but would that even work out here?
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i've been hearing the government/media/ authors/etc speakin about how extremeist thinking (or whatever you want to call it) can't just be stopped using military assets. they speak about humanitarian missions, and guess what CSHD is involved with... yup. and then i read this sunday pr about rufus and republicans or w/e (i dont really care) and it just fit like a couple puzzle pieces
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I traded google on opening day. IPO was a tues. you could have gotten it for $85. First trading day was a thurs. it opened at $95. EOD frist day $102 w a high of $104. I do think it got to $120 in the first few days trading but even day twos high was only like $108.
Cool, I had the chance to buy YaHoo at 5 bucks after the Internet bubble crash but chose to spend the money on the wedding and honeymoon to my wife. I think YaHoo hit $43 as its high since that day. I would still choose my wife, cause she makes me go YAaaaHOOOoooo! LOL
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For anyone who is wondering about the Shwab fax:
I called the 1-800# on the fax and asked to speak with Howie Kennedy (he was on another call) so I spoke with David Pinto and I asked him to verify the authenticity of the fax in reagrds to borrowing CSHD shares....he said yes they did send the fax out to certain clients......if anyone is still uncertain, you can call yourself too. 1-800-355-2448.
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Well I picked up a third of my original position X .74. I will still look to pick up the rest at a lower pps later. It may never give me another chance but we'll see.
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Wow so this fax from Schwab is real after all???
Man, I clearly voiced my doubt about it last night, but its actually true. Go figure. Charles Schwab wants a piece of CSHD. Well whoever sold on panic this morning is gonna kick themselves in the a$$ for gettin out. Thats the way the roller coaster go folks
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Resistance this morning seems to be .77. Even when the ask went above .77 only one trade got hit at .78.
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originally posted by:HSM Enthusiast samaelrocks
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 867 I just spoke to an accountant friend of mine. Here's the low down after I showed him the 8k filing, latest PR, the letter from Schwab, and a synopsis of the history of this thing:
He tells me that the letter shows that Schwab is expecting an appreciation with this stock because they are offering X % on borrowed shares regardless of where the stock goes. Obviously, they don't expect it to go down but up.
8k and PR regarding the bond should be clarified in the 10k. Everyone seems to know about the s-4 that needs to happen to re register the shares at the new price of $20 plus.
What we don't know, or at least I haven't seen this, is WHO ARE THE ANALYSTS THAT WILL VALUATE CSHD TO $20 per share? Well, the Bond PR states: "With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings,"
So that tells me that we will know who is valuating the stock price in the 10k. Also, my friend SPECULATES that it may be Schwab doing this valuation per the letter but if other brokers are trying to borrow shares, then we can't specualte who will be doing the valuation.
As noted before, the valuation MUST be done to the liking of Institutions before they buy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rufus already said there were Institutions lined up to buy. People ask, "Why not buy now under a dollar"? Answer = the stock has not been valuated yet and we saw that in the Bond PR.
I wrote this out more for me than anyone else because I wanted an outside opinion. To me, this is looking really good.
GLTA!
Edit - As far as I know, my friend is NOT going to invest in CSHD nor did I ask him to. The above is solely his opinion on the material I showed him.
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quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: originally posted by:HSM Enthusiast samaelrocks
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 867 I just spoke to an accountant friend of mine. Here's the low down after I showed him the 8k filing, latest PR, the letter from Schwab, and a synopsis of the history of this thing:
He tells me that the letter shows that Schwab is expecting an appreciation with this stock because they are offering X % on borrowed shares regardless of where the stock goes. Obviously, they don't expect it to go down but up.
8k and PR regarding the bond should be clarified in the 10k. Everyone seems to know about the s-4 that needs to happen to re register the shares at the new price of $20 plus.
What we don't know, or at least I haven't seen this, is WHO ARE THE ANALYSTS THAT WILL VALUATE CSHD TO $20 per share? Well, the Bond PR states: "With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings,"
So that tells me that we will know who is valuating the stock price in the 10k. Also, my friend SPECULATES that it may be Schwab doing this valuation per the letter but if other brokers are trying to borrow shares, then we can't specualte who will be doing the valuation.
As noted before, the valuation MUST be done to the liking of Institutions before they buy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rufus already said there were Institutions lined up to buy. People ask, "Why not buy now under a dollar"? Answer = the stock has not been valuated yet and we saw that in the Bond PR.
I wrote this out more for me than anyone else because I wanted an outside opinion. To me, this is looking really good.
GLTA!
Edit - As far as I know, my friend is NOT going to invest in CSHD nor did I ask him to. The above is solely his opinion on the material I showed him.
thanks for re-routing that to allstocks =)
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