KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 18, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation announces that during the 10-K filing process the following current events have taken place. CSHD would like to announce the signing of a Global Funding Agreement with the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation. The Foundation's Co-Operators are Adnan Sakli FD# 8216 and 8217, Craig M. Cason and Steven Canady.
The funding agreement brings a 450 Million Euro ($579,149,833 USD converted) denominated Note on Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC with a 6 1/8% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The MTN holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite A+ rating with a Moody's A1 rating).
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC 6 1/8 A+
Common Code: 010924251
ISIN: XS0109242510
BB Number: EC2377199 "With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CONTACT: Rufus Paul Harris Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, Harris*cvsu.us, +1-770-420-8270
WOW Rufus gives us specific details on the bond....
then goes on to say the reorganization price will now be $25
This is ridicolous, and unheard of!
Please please let this happen
I'm only 20, and would love 35k in my pocket.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
To late for indepth DD but here is a link to the website of the Lehman... http://www.lehman.com/ Come on Green Gapper!!! (24 freakin dolla gapper)!!!
Posted by T e x on :
L O F L...
If wishes were horses? I'd be mounted on AP steed...
this is too rich...
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
if this is a scam mr harris has just upped the ante by 600 million!!!!!!!! think this might gap tomorrow??
to da moon!!!! Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Btw, for what it's worth Quezda and Knapp, Jerry registered shares with CSHD... It popped up on my market news for CSHD on my Etrade Pro platform. Night
Posted by JohnDoe on :
It's a S C A M of the year i tell ya .... Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
Honestly I don't know what to believe from Rufus anymore, could be complete BS. All I know is that hype brought the stock to $1.65 and this is more hype news for me. I'll ride this hype for whatever extra .60 cents its worth.
I'm in!!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Sorry guys I didn't see this thread up. I guess just let the other one I started close up.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
I think I just wet myself. Starting a new pair of boxers today.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
YYYYEEEESSSSSS!!!!!!!!
GOOD MORNING!!
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Morning all, wow the stakes just got a little higher with this PR.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Now things are really getting interesting. I'd love to see the look on the faces of those who are shorting NOW!
Posted by a surfer on :
Originally Posted by voodoonola I'm on no sleep! Heres all I've got so far
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: WOW Rufus gives us specific details on the bond....
then goes on to say the reorganization price will now be $25
This is ridicolous, and unheard of!
Please please let this happen
I'm only 20, and would love 35k in my pocket.
Well he said "justifiable" price reset, said the actual price will be disclosed in the SEC filing...
Remember... Rufus said that $15 was a steal in his opinion, AND that he had juicy deals on the table that would help support his $15 a share claim. I see this as supporting the $15 share price and not so much as a new IPO price.
Rufus is making sure his stock stays at $15 people!!! -or goes HIGHER.
This is nuts! Posted by lostone on :
wow, would be nice if this is immediately followed by that 10K .. don't really know what to think anymore.. but i do need that cash quickly.. wish they'd hurry up more or draft us what they got thus far.. i wouldn't mind
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I think we are going to be hearing it from some people, about the names on that PR. I think mainly Adnan Sakli will be the one scrutinized the most.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't know if it matters but at the end of the PR there was no safe harbor disclaimer.
Posted by mnvestor on :
Did I mention Rufus's background is in bond origination...gapping early
Posted by 66inxs on :
looks like a gapper this morning. trades posted already. this should run this am but how far and how long? probably another good flipper today !
Posted by vinnie1 on :
this thing is like a blind date tell them what they want to hear and take what you want.BS LOL
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by vinnie1: this thing is like a blind date tell them what they want to hear and take what you want.BS LOL
How so? Looks like someone is left out...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Im kinda hoping that this is why the 10k was delayed. NOWWWWWW can we release it? Posted by mnvestor on :
Rufus has stated all along that there will be PR's released that will help support the PPS once the reset occurs, I smell the 10k, just can't see it...
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning! We are seeing light !!!!!!!HA HA Excellent news?!!!!! Posted by luvforever on :
Told ya I feel magic! Wish I had more $ LOL Posted by milliam on :
I'm showing 3 trades already this morning. 5000 for .71 2500 for .76 2500 for .80
Things are looking good. I can't believe we got so low yesterday. I was going to sell some at .50 (not mine, but my buddy who is on vacation and left me his plan for his account).
Make that 4 trades another 5000 for .80
Posted by RichBy26 on :
bid .80 ask .74...someone needs shares!!!!!
Posted by 66inxs on :
personally i believe there have been too much misinformation with this stock and i will not hold this any longer than i have to to flip it. if it pans out for you guys, please give me a ride in your new ferrari. gas and lunch are on me !! good luck trading today !
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Im trying to get a few shares today to "play with". Im always too afraid to flip my original purchased shares but "new" shares are like play money. However, looking at how things are ramping up i would have to chase! Fill my order before takeoff!!
Posted by 66inxs on :
i'm going to put in a buy for 15k shares and see what happens. this might be a rollercoaster today ! dull trading week, could use a little excitement.
Posted by luvforever on :
Fry, I do believe it's not gonna be long till u can change them every 10 minutes, each day! LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yep! Everything is going as he said. Having that symbol confusion was out of his hands, so it looks like we are right where we want to be gang!
Maybe now we can take off th hip boots for all the BS the bashers have been dishing! ha ~
Posted by RichBy26 on :
NITE is only on the bid, not the ask!!! They need shares bad...
Posted by unclerudy on :
66inxs Member
Member Rated: posted August 18, 2006 09:08 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- personally i believe there have been too much misinformation with this stock and i will not hold this any longer than i have to to flip it. if it pans out for you guys, please give me a ride in your new ferrari. gas and lunch are on me !! good luck trading today !
-------------------- "one of the undesireables"
66inxs Member
Member Rated: posted August 18, 2006 09:13 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i'm going to put in a buy for 15k shares and see what happens. this might be a rollercoaster today ! dull trading week, could use a little excitement.
-------------------- "one of the undesireables"
Change your mind quickly do you?
Posted by Vin on :
He's a flipper. Posted by maumee river rat on :
Mornin gang!!!
Looks like I missed my mark yesterday....
Told ya it would be ugly..LOL
Looks like it tried to go north EOD...
With all this new B.S. out this morning...It will be very hard to say what is going to happen this morning...
Toughest finger print to learn on a chart, that I have seen, in a long time..
Good luck..
Posted by new2stocks on :
I think everyone is going to be on the edge of their seats today!
Posted by wallymac on :
message from SYGY
hey WALLY can you post on allstocks for me that i'm down on my sytem or got booted or something!!please ! our group will wonder where the f-k i'm at!!! till i can log on!again ,,you can also tell them i'm very happy and have market order in for 10000 more!!!!THANK YOU!!!now lets cook some shorts on the barb-Q!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hah! Well, it seems my buy at .75 didnt have a chance! Grrr
Posted by Schwabie on :
Mine either... lol
Posted by maumee river rat on :
There's that .92 I was lookin for yesterday....LOL
This thing is a trip....
Watch for that gap....MM's are still in control
Posted by cassity on :
look how far we have moved on such low volume. HMMMMMMMMM I do think the float has been all bought up. I don't think we will see this shorted today. We may go VERY high.
Posted by luvforever on :
1$ here we are LOL love it love it sniff...LOL;)
Posted by Sandusky on :
Geeez...tried 5k at .82 (before the bell!) and still got left in the dust.
Posted by luvforever on :
YES!!! rat so you had the wrong day LOL easily just a boo boo...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: look how far we have moved on such low volume. HMMMMMMMMM I do think the float has been all bought up. I don't think we will see this shorted today. We may go VERY high.
YUP!!
:Bust out the Crystal Ball....or should I say Crystal BULL!!!!! Posted by new2stocks on :
Someone hand luvforever a tissue!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
WOOOOOHHOOOOOOO!!! I like it, I love it, I want some more of it!!!!!
GO CSHD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by luvforever on :
Thank you new2... told ya there's magic here!!! Posted by 10of13 on :
Whoo hoo...I am close to doubling from yesterday...Cmon baby MOVE!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Group hug! lol
Posted by portman on :
Someone needs to hand txprincess a tissue. very sad there.
Posted by 66inxs on :
no i did not change my mind unclerudy. good action today tomorrow who knows? just a buy and sell opportunity to me, i don't fall in love with the pennies. hope you and the others hit it big on this one after i cash out.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
My neck hurts... Think I snapped it trying to watch the PRICE go up!! LOL ~~~
Posted by portman on :
10 are you playing the for the whole war, just the battles or both?
Posted by luvforever on :
Come on everybody get in here! Feel the love!!! WHOOOOOOHOOOOOO! Think anyones flippin? Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Okay run is over, everyone go home now
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
WTF! Holy bingo balls BATMAN! I go to sleep and the company secures $500 Million dollars? And just two days after I averaged down 12 cents. Goood Morning to me! Posted by maumee river rat on :
We closed that gap at 1.035
Resistance at 1.20
Support is back at a dollar....Go figure..
Support is weak, untill tested a couple times
Keep your fingers crossed kids.....
this could get fun..
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: 10 are you playing the for the whole war, just the battles or both?
This is the only penny that I stayed "long" with some free shares...and I am also playing the "flips..."...it's a bordem thing.... So Both!
Whoooo HOOOOO...let's go!
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Come on everybody get in here! Feel the love!!! WHOOOOOOHOOOOOO! Think anyones flippin?
I am looking too, but the L2 is literally moving too fast right now for me to flip. I'll just hang out for awhile, unitl I see good times to flip.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
woah!! 25.63 pps now. Raise of 15.63 already!!!hehe.... rollin, rollin, rollin!
Posted by luvforever on :
who? whos gonna flip? LOL Posted by Stockguru06 on :
ok what can we expect now
Posted by luvforever on :
Excitement LOL now who is this co? gotta see if they are real.. Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by *********06: ok what can we expect now
There will be some profit takin....Thats for sure..
Posted by Stockguru06 on :
when does the filings have to come out?
Posted by luvforever on :
sept 30 i believe at latest!!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
All the people that sold are kicking themselves.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
250000 sell now thats profit taking!!!!!!!
Posted by cassity on :
Major bid support at 1.07, up we go again! IMO
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: 250000 sell now thats profit taking!!!!!!!
Yeah that was me, I sold 1/5 of my shares... JOKING!!! -I wouldn't of sold! LOL!
Posted by Squire38 on :
I think there might be a lot of sales in the $1.00 to $1.10 area. That is the range this traded at since it became CSHD, so when it tank, all those that bought in this area might just want out to break even.
Posted by trade04 on :
weeeeeeeeeeeeee i <3 scams lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: weeeeeeeeeeeeee i <3 scams lol
LOL...scam or not...$ to be made here...all depends on how you "play" the game...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
going up anyone? Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
Yep...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
It's funny how people keep calling this a scam, Rufus has been on the ball, and no reason to think that yet. Just because this isnt a typical thing in the market, doesnt mean its a scam
Posted by cassity on :
Anybody, keeping an eye out for the 10k or sb-4?
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
What I still can't believe is the number of traders that sell their shares at the bid price on a run like this...makes no damn sense...
Posted by luvforever on :
Motor ?? Wha here makes sense?!!! LOL This is crazy! glte
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
How true luv...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22: It's funny how people keep calling this a scam, Rufus has been on the ball, and no reason to think that yet. Just because this isnt a typical thing in the market, doesnt mean its a scam
I have said many times this can still be a scam. Each step forward can lessen the potential.
I like this stock so far and what I see. Like XKEM I cycled out shares so I can remain calm and decide based on maximizing winnings rather than worrying about my real cash.
Posted by cool AZ on :
The "thing" this is ... well, it's not a penny stock like the ones we are usually seeing. I expect to see nothing but this type of "surprise attack". Thought something like this would happen yesterday ... luckily bought more yesterday too.
Looks like this could be a very dangerous time to "play" with this too much ... might get left in the dust. Good Morning All!
Posted by Squire38 on :
Motor, it L2 is jumpng around, they might have put the sale in at the ask, but by the time they hit the button, it has changed to the bid.
Posted by SherriT on :
Come on 1.055 and then she can do whatever she likes ;-)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
What time did that P.R. get released...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Common Shorty you got the cahones get back in here at 1.06... I dare you.
People need to understand that brand name companies are not the only companies with money. I work for a small company of 1000 employees world wide, but we had our Billion dollar party on 5 contenents last year. basically a party when our market cap surpassed a 1 Billion dollars. (EEFT for anyone interested)
Don't get caught trading like a penny stock when you are actually investing in a large cap. Just because they are using a reverse merger to enter the market rather than an IPO. I for one definitely like the posibilities here.
TB
edited: sorry about that
[ August 18, 2006, 10:42: Message edited by: TaxBack04 ]
Posted by cassity on :
1:15 est. time maumee.
Posted by portman on :
aaahaaahahahh not r/s reverse merger....do not summon the evil gods of the wrong revers
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Bet IHUB is quite.. he he ~~ "Lemonaid anyone?...." Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by Squire38: Motor, it L2 is jumpng around, they might have put the sale in at the ask, but by the time they hit the button, it has changed to the bid.
Maybe some Squire...but watching L2's and T&S peeps are still inexperienced enough to sell at the bid on a run like this...
Posted by lostone on :
I took 40% profit.. just had to take the opportunity... still got some but no longer do I want to stand by at the mercy of Rufus
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thanks, cass!!!
Does that not seem to be a bit of an ODD TIME to release a P.R......1:15 a/m....
I don't like to speculate on the inter workings of news releases..ie..the when to, and what to say stuff... .. But that just seems to be an odd time of day to blow up the boards with news...
Makes me have to think sumpthin else is commin out soon....like TODAY!!
Just thinkin out loud...
Posted by betting babe on :
well this is interesting.
good morning y'all! glad i filled my 6000 shares yesterday at .70 in case of the usual friday news.
im averaged down to a more comfortable place now.
the question is what to do with it???
~BB
Posted by luvforever on :
Nope no "Lemonaide" just give me them lemons!! they are just what we all need to keep going! Can't ya tastm.??...LOL love it Chart!!!! Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Thanks, cass!!!
Does that not seem to be a bit of an ODD TIME to release a P.R......1:15 a/m....
I don't like to speculate on the inter workings of news releases..ie..the when to, and what to say stuff... .. But that just seems to be an odd time of day to blow up the boards with news...
Makes me have to think sumpthin else is commin out soon....like TODAY!!
Just thinkin out loud...
Ruffie did say he would release PR's to support the $15 a share claim.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Audited Financials are gone.
Posted by MotorCityMadman on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: well this is interesting.
good morning y'all! glad i filled my 6000 shares yesterday at .70 in case of the usual friday news.
im averaged down to a more comfortable place now.
the question is what to do with it???
~BB
That would be your choice BB...I have played this twice in the last month and personally I am holding my freebies to the end...GLTY
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Thanks, cass!!!
Does that not seem to be a bit of an ODD TIME to release a P.R......1:15 a/m....
I don't like to speculate on the inter workings of news releases..ie..the when to, and what to say stuff... .. But that just seems to be an odd time of day to blow up the boards with news...
Makes me have to think sumpthin else is commin out soon....like TODAY!!
Just thinkin out loud...
I have to wonder if Rufus is trying to take some off guard!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
No, it's nice finding this first thing...What's this under my pillow? What? The sleeping fairy left me a nice present, aww you guys and gals got it too!!!! LOL Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
So, it looks like this thread is where the action is. I see there is another thread moving on this today too but so far just arguing. So, we are staying in here right?
My new home. Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: No, it's nice finding this first thing...What's this under my pillow? What? The sleeping fairy left me a nice present, aww you guys and gals got it too!!!! LOL
OHHHHHH!!!! Thats what itches so bad....
PASS THE BLUE SHAMPOO!!!
Posted by luvforever on :
LOL!
Posted by betting babe on :
that was a rhetorical question.
i predicted friday news last night. i was down almost 50% yesterday, still added to my hand. no way would i try to flip this.
didnt rufus release news at 11:45pm before too?
im with maumee, i think we see more news today.
how ballsy is that, with all the speculation out there, to up the pps to $25? he raised the bar and no one else was even competing!
~BB
quote:Originally posted by MotorCityMadman:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: well this is interesting.
good morning y'all! glad i filled my 6000 shares yesterday at .70 in case of the usual friday news.
im averaged down to a more comfortable place now.
the question is what to do with it???
~BB
That would be your choice BB...I have played this twice in the last month and personally I am holding my freebies to the end...GLTY
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: No, it's nice finding this first thing...What's this under my pillow? What? The sleeping fairy left me a nice present, aww you guys and gals got it too!!!! LOL
OHHHHHH!!!! Thats what itches so bad....
PASS THE BLUE SHAMPOO!!!
YOU know the color of "the shampoo"? LOL
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...i thought that was the scary part as well, lol...
Posted by new2stocks on :
" You Sir will remember my name for the rest of your life, this I can assure you."... Rufus Paul Harris
Posted by luvforever on :
Oh sorry folks but I gotta say something... Mr. Ruffis if you see this thank you again for info. We like you to keep us informed maybe next time just something a lil sooner. I think we all appreciate the news thank you! Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: No, it's nice finding this first thing...What's this under my pillow? What? The sleeping fairy left me a nice present, aww you guys and gals got it too!!!! LOL
OHHHHHH!!!! Thats what itches so bad....
PASS THE BLUE SHAMPOO!!!
YOU know the color of "the shampoo"? LOL
WHAT!!!! Was that a confirmation 10???
Sounds like you KNOW the color too!!! Posted by maumee river rat on :
Damn public bathrooms....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I don't think there is anything wrong with the timeing. It was done after midnight so it shows on all boards as today's news and done as early as possible so the word had a chance to get out and "percolate" before the the next morning open.
Posted by luvforever on :
Folks all rmember to say thanks too especially with our biacthing rmember theres always good and unfortunatley bad but rmrmber our manners too, cause we are a good group ...Keep up the good work love ya all.. Posted by maumee river rat on :
I can go along with that Tax....I like my senario better!!! Yours works also...Makes a little more sence too..(but I didn't say that)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I don't think there is anything wrong with the timeing. It was done after midnight so it shows on all boards as today's news and done as early as possible so the word had a chance to get out and "percolate" before the the next morning open.
or... Did he do that because he wants to shoot his gun twice? No sense in releasing two PR's at the same time... Guess we'll see!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Originally Posted by faust Feel like i bought a cow,only to discover instead of putting out milk,it delivers Jack Daniels...
Posted by cassity on :
Up 60% on 3 million in volume, can you imagine how fast this could continue to climb if heavier buying pressure. Funny all the skepticism even thought the company has done everything they said they would. Have fun everyone!
Posted by Igor R on :
Does anyone think it will go down to fill the gap today or no?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Today is a nice bandage for wounds taken in the past days. Now let's see that price go up some more! Posted by maumee river rat on :
Without a follow up PR......Yes!!
It may not be today.. But if we go thru a stretch of time like the last one ... or even close to it.... I think it would fill...
Posted by luvforever on :
I feel we will get something else soon... Cause there still are new q's.... Posted by maumee river rat on :
hang on....
gona knock some loose fruit outta da tree!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
1.02, 1.03 the bottom?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
First test of support at a buck.... The more it bounces... the stronger it is...... (I would prefer it only bounce once and fly to the stars)
Posted by luvforever on :
k folks hold the fort down gotta go get some bird feed to feed our feathered friends so the kitties can watch'em out the window!!! lol Posted by maumee river rat on :
Put the cats on the other side of the window and you wont have to buy food for anything..
Posted by luvforever on :
but it's cool watching them better than tv! Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Without a follow up PR......Yes!!
It may not be today.. But if we go thru a stretch of time like the last one ... or even close to it.... I think it would fill...
yup...
the thing is? There's no *law of nature* that says gaps must fil, every single time...But it happens often enough, regularly enough that one should always trade with the knowledge in mind that the gap is there. Some say it's effects last for three months; others say six months... just something one is aware of and keeps in mind
Posted by maumee river rat on :
YUP!!
Posted by betting babe on :
LOL!!!
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Put the cats on the other side of the window and you wont have to buy food for anything..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
.99 is as far as I would like to see this fall...
Really,Really, would like to see this level hold..
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
decent post with possible good info...haven't really looked to deep into it yet...
Steven O. Canady, SMD, MBA, MS, Chairman/CEO is the principal founder of Bayou Technologies, Inc. Mr. Canady received his Bachelor of Science degree in Chemical Engineering with an emphasis on its Biomedical application and a Master's degree in Business Administration. Mr. Canady studied medicine Cambridge United Kingdom. In 1990, he participated in an internship at NASA and Baylor University School of Medicine through Tougaloo College Summer Science Program. Dr. Canady was invited to participate in a Bioterrorism Counter Intelligence program by the Canadian government and received the Certificate of Recognition for Outstanding Service from the Delegate to Congress of the United States Virgin Islands, the Honorable Donna M. C. Christensen.
Bayou Technologies, Inc. (BayouTech) is a multi-facetd biotech and medical device company that combines creative thinking with scientific experience in order to design and produce innovative artificial intelligence driven medical technology and proprietar
OK, It's holding.... But it just can't sit on it either....
COMMON BOUNCE!!!! you BLASTARD!!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
SEE!! All you gotta do is yell at it......
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: SEE!! All you gotta do is yell at it......
OK...You have just been voted as the "official Yeller"...you must remain here from 9:30-4...until the reset...thank you for your time....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
--maybe we'll enjoy that $1.00 support again now, I would like that very much Uncle Rufus!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Can't sit still that long....
You done with that shampoo yet??
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Can't sit still that long....
You done with that shampoo yet??
here...catch!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
GET OFF IT!!!! YOU NO GOOD*&*%^$$*%(*&_*_**)(^(*(^!!!
Posted by ruthie on :
Please!! No lower!!!
Posted by MTPromises on :
after some technical difficulties, I'm back in the saddle.
OK. Reading the PR last night in wee hours of the morning made going to sleep very interesting.
Up and at 'em early, following the premarket and the open at 0.85 --- I put in a limit at 0.90 and it wouldn't fill. Happy and sad all at the same time.
It's good to be back! Glad to see you're all still here!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...you're slackin'....
Posted by new2stocks on :
hey MT!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Done with the move MT? Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...you are now fired!
Small little pull back...let's see if it can bounce back...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
not liken this chit...
Posted by 10of13 on :
MM's have taken control again...bringing it down...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
this blows....
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah...way to walk it down...
pricks...it makes less sense every time it happens...
Posted by ruthie on :
Falling WAY too fast!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
if it makes ya feel better ....we do have a little support at 95
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It's gunna be fun gang.... I think we cl;ose around 1.24..... Don't hold me to it ....this thing is way out of control
Posted by ruthie on :
It does make me feel a little better maumee..
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: if it makes ya feel better ....we do have a little support at 95
Correct me if I am wrong (I know you will)...but if the MM's want it to go down...the support levels mean nothing right? don't they just "break" supports as to give "fake" sell offs and bring in panic sellers?
Posted by djg7 on :
I agree 10. The MMs are making an attempt to shake the sh*t out of this for the weak to sell off their shares. Holding strong on this one.
Posted by cassity on :
Just thinking, the SEC must have been contacted a million times, with questions about CSHD/CVSU/FHAL. With all the attention this stock is getting, they still allow it to trade, so in my opinion Rufus and CSHD is legit. It's just a matter of time until all of us go OHHHHH, that's why we're worth 15-25 dollars a share. If you look at companies that have been frozen by the SEC, they didn't receive half of the attention this stock has. Just a matter of time folks. JMO
Posted by ruthie on :
Agreed, it is out of control. Hopefully the LEAST we close at is 1.03 but higher certainly would be a good way to close the week!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Yup!!! But with that said....That means support levels mean sumpthin....
I think what you just said, is what they did..
We had good support around a dollar... and les significant support around .95... and you had to look hard to find it...
MM's blew thru the obviose... and went to the next one to shake the tree..
So the answer to your Q is YES....NO!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...Thanks for clearing that up??!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
no problem...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Gotta go tune up a Subaru Outback now...
I'll see ya later..
If anyone cares...The subaru Outbak has got to be the most SUCK vehicle ever created to work on..IMO
NO FUN!!!
later
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Man I'm sorry I missed everything. Is there any thing solid I should know about on the previous pages. I had to leave for awhile and take my daughter peach picking. Thanks for any summary. I know about the PR. Thanks again
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Just thinking, the SEC must have been contacted a million times, with questions about CSHD/CVSU/FHAL. With all the attention this stock is getting, they still allow it to trade, so in my opinion Rufus and CSHD is legit. It's just a matter of time until all of us go OHHHHH, that's why we're worth 15-25 dollars a share. If you look at companies that have been frozen by the SEC, they didn't receive half of the attention this stock has. Just a matter of time folks. JMO
Unfortunately, no...
Am *not* suggesting SEC intervention here, so don't get jumpy. However, length of time without action is no indicator. For one, the SEC is notoriously slow. Two, they do not comment until they actually do something: suspend, file civil suit, whatever... A good, fairly recent example is CMKX, the diamond fiasco... gazillions of complaints, inquiries, "board battles," etc, yet it traded months and months before SEC intervention.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Just thinking, the SEC must have been contacted a million times, with questions about CSHD/CVSU/FHAL. With all the attention this stock is getting, they still allow it to trade, so in my opinion Rufus and CSHD is legit. It's just a matter of time until all of us go OHHHHH, that's why we're worth 15-25 dollars a share. If you look at companies that have been frozen by the SEC, they didn't receive half of the attention this stock has. Just a matter of time folks. JMO
Unfortunately, no...
Am *not* suggesting SEC intervention here, so don't get jumpy. However, length of time without action is no indicator. For one, the SEC is notoriously slow. Two, they do not comment until they actually do something: suspend, file civil suit, whatever... A good, fairly recent example is CMKX, the diamond fiasco... gazillions of complaints, inquiries, "board battles," etc, yet it traded months and months before SEC intervention.
thanks Tex! Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, of all days today my streamer keeps crapping out on me. The net connection here at work sucks...its sad that i have much better results at home!!
Anyway, ill just have to follow what you are all saying. I need 5 second updates and so far you are only updating every 10 seconds. Come on people!! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I would like a 10K to read over lunch. Pleease...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
0.99 x 1.01 Posted by djg7 on :
Bid 2 x 1.00 1 x .99 1 x .98
Ask 6 x 1.01 2 x 1.02
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
...I guess a 10K over lunch is too much to ask for...
Anyway if it says what I think it is going to say (Which is that Rufas has been straight with us this whole time and that I am just impatient.) Then lunch would turn into a kegger party at the pub where I am going for lunch. Yep any solid news like that, and I would be guaranteed my FU money and am sure I would be done with returning from lunch to work out the rest of my Friday.
So things must happen for a reason. GLTA! I am going to lunch with my Fantasy Football Data rather than my Fantasy Stock Data.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I could use some FU money right now. I was just told i could work the entire weekend to solve an issue we are currently having. Come on Rufus, get that FU money flowing!!
Posted by djg7 on :
This looks it may be a minirun. 1.02 x 1.04
Posted by cool AZ on :
I'm noticing that 5 of the last 8 pr's have been in the afternoon:
Thursday, July 20 at 2:48pm Tuesday, July 25 at 12:46pm Wednesday, July 26 at 2:02pm Friday, August 4 at 2:59pm Tuesday, August 8 at 2:37pm ... next pm pr?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Nice show of strength going into the lunch hour ~
Posted by luvforever on :
Baack got my feed for the birdies...LOL Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Done with the move MT?
yep - just have all those minor details to handle like new bank, new doctor, redirecting all my electronic payments to my new bank account, new church, still trying to find a school for my son, need to get MN driver's license and plates, etc. . . man, there's a lot of crap to do when you move to a new state. Oh, and did I mention that it costs more to rent here than it did for me to own a house in Wausau - and not just a little more.
Posted by betting babe on :
it's all better than renting in nyc Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Done with the move MT?
yep - just have all those minor details to handle like new bank, new doctor, redirecting all my electronic payments to my new bank account, new church, still trying to find a school for my son, need to get MN driver's license and plates, etc. . . man, there's a lot of crap to do when you move to a new state. Oh, and did I mention that it costs more to rent here than it did for me to own a house in Wausau - and not just a little more.
Well... "Uncle Rufus" maybe will help you out with that!
Good to hear from you MT! Glad all is well.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: it's all better than renting in nyc
What is that like out there?... $$
Posted by betting babe on :
$$$ kerching $$$ 1 bedroom, 650 sq ft, goes for about $2500-2900 on the low end.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
maybe you need roomie to split the costs?!! Muh hu ha ha ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: $$$ kerching $$$ 1 bedroom, 650 sq ft, goes for about $2500-2900 on the low end.
Whoah. I can rent 2 houses for that out in the country where i live!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yeah that is nuts ~
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: $$$ kerching $$$ 1 bedroom, 650 sq ft, goes for about $2500-2900 on the low end.
OMG! I'm going to be renting a 2 bedroom house on a river for $500.00 per month.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
hell you can rent a place off/on St. Charles down here for that...uber nice...uber old New Orleans...
come to think of it...you could probably live above Jax Brewery for that...
Posted by betting babe on :
yeah i know its nuts, but it is the price of the city. and like i said thats the LOW end, no frills.
a roomie? ick chartwalker! if u cant afford the ingredients get outta the kitchen i say.
i dont really know anyone who pays less than 3 grand a month... 2 bedrooms start around 4k. i know people who pay 8k +
anyway, this thing isnt budging. im gonna go hit the gym while i have afternoon downtime. chk y'all later
~BB
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: yeah i know its nuts, but it is the price of the city. and like i said thats the LOW end, no frills.
a roomie? ick chartwalker! if u cant afford the ingredients get outta the kitchen i say.
i dont really know anyone who pays less than 3 grand a month... 2 bedrooms start around 4k. i know people who pay 8k +
anyway, this thing isnt budging. im gonna go hit the gym while i have afternoon downtime. chk y'all later
~BB
That's just insane!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I like it right where I'm at Now even more so!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: $$$ kerching $$$ 1 bedroom, 650 sq ft, goes for about $2500-2900 on the low end.
BB the mortgage on my 4000 sq ft house is cheaper and I am far from the boonies....yikes!
Posted by djg7 on :
Chartwalker, I wouldn't trade where I live either in northern MN. Wildlife, lakes and not many people. Very peaceful.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Chartwalker, I wouldn't trade where I live either in northern MN. Wildlife, lakes and not many people. Very peaceful.
To each their own I guess... Yeah I'm with you, cities are so busy and dirty and they don't smell like the out-of-doors that's for sure!
But jobs pay better there, BUT... everything costs more so....... "?"
But that's just me Posted by dog on :
Hello all! Why has this monkey slowed it's roll. It's a real luv-hate fest out there on the web. Shot to n1.15 right out of the gate and now is being strangled at the dollar mark? wtf?
p.s. I'm still smiling......
Posted by Chartwalker on :
dog... I think we scooped up a bunch of flippers, that might have a lot to do with it.
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: $$$ kerching $$$ 1 bedroom, 650 sq ft, goes for about $2500-2900 on the low end.
Whoah. I can rent 2 houses for that out in the country where i live!!
WHOAAAAA...I can buy one HELL of a house for that - with tons of nice acreage...
Posted by MTPromises on :
Yes, BB, I guess everything is relative. I'm obviously not paying that much. Egad!
Looks like we're going to hover around that dollar mark no matter what comes out in a PR . . . unless, of course, it's the 10K Posted by maumee river rat on :
Well gang!!!
The F-ing Subaru from HELL!!! ...............is done.....
YEAH!!!!!!
I hate that fricken car......
Anyways .....
It is good to see we are holdin around that dollar mark.....you got your wish Walker!!!
I still believe that we are gunna close up from here..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Well gang!!!
The F-ing Subaru from HELL!!! ...............is done.....
YEAH!!!!!!
I hate that fricken car......
Anyways .....
It is good to see we are holdin around that dollar mark.....you got your wish Walker!!!
I still believe that we are gunna close up from here..
Funny stuff Rat! ..lol ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Yeah, I don't what the market is thinking on this symbol... 97.5 million outstanding, at a dollar a piece is a measly little market cap for this stock. Flippers or not I do not see why there hasn't been a correction.
Any news regarding 500 Million in new available assets should have this pps flying. Of course so should the rumors of 3.5 Billion in physical assets and 500 million in cash. So go figure.
I guess penny traders and MM's just can't do the math above a dollar.
I will be much happier when I see a 10K but I am starting to think that that even is not going to be enough to get this stock where it should be pps wise.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: I could use some FU money right now. I was just told i could work the entire weekend to solve an issue we are currently having. Come on Rufus, get that FU money flowing!!
LMAO CAT!!!!!!
If you guys would do your job instead of watchen the board all fricken day, that problem at work would not have arisen, and you all would be gettin a damn bonus for bein ahead of schedule!!!
Ypu seem to have a pretty good gig goin there...
You get to trade all day You get paid to do it.. and now you get some over time because of it..
Where do I sign up!!!LOL
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Well gang!!!
The F-ing Subaru from HELL!!! ...............is done.....
YEAH!!!!!!
I hate that fricken car......
Anyways .....
It is good to see we are holdin around that dollar mark.....you got your wish Walker!!!
I still believe that we are gunna close up from here..
Which Subaru? I love the WRX STi version. Especially with a few extra goodies on it. Id love to have one someday...thanks to rufus
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Tax.. so many rumors, but those who have looked into this (like us!) know if anything has a shoot this is it ~ IMO.
Now Rufus will just educate us as to WHY this stock is a bargin at $15 IMO. -Because he said he would basically. So I am expecting some more PR's like that and then the bomb, -and what a bomb it will be!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Heavy accumulating going on, -would hate to miss the next PR!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Not a new Subaru Cat... It's a 96 Outback Legacy.. It's a friend of mines' daughters...
She has to go to Texas this weekend, and I got to tune the damn thing up as a consequence...LOL
It's a good runnin little car....Just a monster BIOTCH to work on...
Subaru makes a fine car though...
Subaru mechanics make a good living...LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
How come Walker gets his wish?..I am wishin' for this to be done...10K and reset...c'mon...wish!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Bite me.... Posted by Chartwalker on :
We've been at the Fibonacci Retracement level 23.6% most of the day... So it would appear pressure for a EOD run could very well happen Rat.
Stochastic started a nice reset just after 2pm my time and should be in the bottom 1/4 of the indicator within 20 minutes making this a nice set-up as it well be oversold
Saaaweeet ~
So get your soda and popcorn ready, we may have a show to watch!
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Bite me....
You guys can bite each other after you wash off the blue shampoo! Posted by Chartwalker on :
10 I HOPE YOU get your wish!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Bite me....
Now now I know it is Friday ... but let's not ummm...naaa I'm gonna let it go.... Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Synastar:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Bite me....
You guys can bite each other after you wash off the blue shampoo!
Ouch! lmao ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
Thanks Chart...it's a wish for all of us...
Portman...wise choice...LOL
Synastar...It was always Maumees shampoo...he uses it daily....
Posted by portman on :
and now we have cohabitative bathing....sheeeesh .. lmao.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: and now we have cohabitative bathing....sheeeesh .. lmao.
there's another way?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Synastar:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Bite me....
You guys can bite each other after you wash off the blue shampoo!
Ouch! lmao ~
Tiny bubbles...( Don Hoe singing in the backround) make me happy.....Tiiiny bubbles......make me smile.....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Thanks Chart...it's a wish for all of us...
Portman...wise choice...LOL
Synastar...It was always Maumees shampoo...he uses it daily....
Thats why I loaned it to ya kid!!! Had to break the cycle.... Posted by Chartwalker on :
singing... great. Now the naked indian will show up again! And if he's covered in BLUE Shampoo, Rat'll have some splain'n ta do ~ lol ~
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Tiny bubbles in my beer, make me happy, full of cheers..... lol. I'm going to grab one now and get ready!!!
Go CSHD!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: singing... great. Now the naked indian will show up again! And if he's covered in BLUE Shampoo, Rat'll have some splain'n ta do ~ lol ~
LMAO...thank you!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Synastar:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Rufas likes Walker, 10.....
Bite me....
You guys can bite each other after you wash off the blue shampoo!
Ouch! lmao ~
Tiny bubbles...( Don Hoe singing in the backround) make me happy.....Tiiiny bubbles......make me smile.....
Tiny bubbles...In my beer...Tiny bubbles...all the year.
Posted by milliam on :
Looks like we've made 6 different "news" sites. Among these is s t o c k w i r e . c o m...they still list us as Furia and talk about the trucking logistics in Texas. The other sites all quote the bond PR.
Posted by milliam on :
Hey Chart...is there a site that shows Fibonacci data? I've heard a lot about it, but never seen where you can add it to a chart online.
Also, what time frame are you watching this at?
Thanks!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey 10.....Stop blowen bubbles ...It will turn you teeth blue...
This is gunna break one way or the other soon...
Nice pennant about to come to an end.. (Or it will extend itself, and nothin will happen till monday)...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Hey 10.....Stop blowen bubbles ...It will turn you teeth blue...
This is gunna break one way or the other soon...
Nice pennant about to come to an end.. (Or it will extend itself, and nothin will happen till monday)...
Damn...i can't think of anything to say...!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Hey Chart...is there a site that shows Fibonacci data? I've heard a lot about it, but never seen where you can add it to a chart online.
Also, what time frame are you watching this at?
Thanks!
boy, a site that has "good" fib data is hard to find. Know some good tips and tricks (to long to write out), -sorry. I use Prophet charts, love them. I can dig around my old fav's this weekend and I'll see if I can shoot you a site or two about fans, archs and retracements. Good enough? Posted by milliam on :
Anything would be great.
Thanks a bunch!
Posted by betting babe on :
ok so while i was at the gym y'all took a bath together. nice when the board gets along LOL
looks like im gonna miss eod, i gotta go out.
let's see, ill predict closing pps 1.13 vol 5,650,000
catch y'all later! happy friday!!!
~BB
Posted by maumee river rat on :
The cognative thought process is the second thing to go.... Damn girl!!!!
Didn't you read the warning label????
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I thought I came back to the wrong board. People bathing together what is this ancient Rome. Hey that's not a bad idea lol.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: I could use some FU money right now. I was just told i could work the entire weekend to solve an issue we are currently having. Come on Rufus, get that FU money flowing!!
LMAO CAT!!!!!!
If you guys would do your job instead of watchen the board all fricken day, that problem at work would not have arisen, and you all would be gettin a damn bonus for bein ahead of schedule!!!
Ypu seem to have a pretty good gig goin there...
You get to trade all day You get paid to do it.. and now you get some over time because of it..
Where do I sign up!!!LOL
HAH!! I missed this earlier. Actually, no....i dont always have freedom like i have had lately. Ive been quite lucky actually. Im more or less assisting on this issue we are having right now which is taking all of my time.
We are pretty much always looking though since you asked, and i get a bounty for finding people. Have any Mechanical or Electrical engineering background? Program management?
Just what is it you do that you can trade during the day as well? Posted by maumee river rat on :
Now your just a big ole blue tooth dummy from swantucky!! Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: The cognative thought process is the second thing to go.... Damn girl!!!!
Didn't you read the warning label????
You had used it so much the label was gone!
Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm not from Swantucky! (Even if my teeth are blue!)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Just what is it you do that you can trade during the day as well?
As little as possible... Posted by Chartwalker on :
At least Rat is clean! (shampoo) lol ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Just what is it you do that you can trade during the day as well?
As little as possible...
Obviously...nothing....
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...when is that "break out" suppose to happen? (no, not that break out)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I don't smell any cookies in the oven from your direction either 10....
Whats your story??
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I don't smell any cookies in the oven from your direction either 10....
Whats your story??
Because it was a pie....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm all ears.... [what's Rat gonna say!]
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Trading range is gettin tighter and tighter 10..
It may bust out EOD....May not...
The pennant I was lookin at just keep extending itself..
I think we may just close flat if this keeps up..
Posted by RyanPBF on :
you must look pretty funny chart j/k. Sorry it was just to easy.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'm all ears.... [what's Rat gonna say!]
LOL!!!! I was gunna go there walker!!!LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
lol ~~~~
Posted by cassity on :
Keep it to the stock weirdo's, hahaha. I hope they put out a PR right after trading. Maybe we'll start out next week at $25. That would be amazing!!! GLTA
Posted by maumee river rat on :
are you still ther 10??
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I think it will be $15, Rufie is just letting us know that it IS worth that $15..... R/E/A/D/
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: are you still ther 10??
needed to edit...after i read that...there was too much tha could have been said... and thanks for the chart info...
Posted by luvforever on :
my eod at 4pm will be 1.07 hmmm.. any takes? I just got news that an 18 wheeler in rochester ny got nailed with over 500 pounds of coke over 20 million $ worth! hes gonna have a friend named bubba for life!!!!!!!!!! LOL Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm pickin...1.03
Posted by RyanPBF on :
58700 buy at.998
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I R/E/A/D... and I saw the PR mentioned SEC Filings twice and that the original $15 was an estimate.
Posted by cassity on :
1.11 !!!!!!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
and the ask drops I don't get it.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think I scared her away....
If this goes north EOD... I gunna say it is gunna make a break for 1.175 max today and tomorrow morn..(with no PR)
If it goes south hard .92 should hold...
it will happen the last ten minutes...if it happens at all..
If flat ...MM's will close it ( this is just a guess) at .99 on a down tic..
let the games begin...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am picking 0.96 EOD because the MM's are manking no since. They lower the bid and ask a penny on a 500 share sale and don't raise it at all on a 10,000 share purchase. This stinks.
Posted by betting babe on :
15:39:15 58,700 * 0.998 Posted by aka the law on :
You guys are so funny I remember reading this board two days ago and someone writing about how he wanted to sue Rufus for his losses....Now that its over a dollar again Rufus is the "MAN"...Can't lose faith in a stock just because it drops one day out of 30.. Good luck with this one guys..
Posted by 10of13 on :
Did anyone notice that the website now has the correct ticker symbol and the chart?
Probably old...I don't often check it...
And Maumee...yes...you would probably scare her away...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Law I believe he is gone. Sold his position and left.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You obviously do not read it very often because the "he wanted to sue Rufus for his losses" was a posting from another board. We were making fun of it.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: You obviously do not read it very often because the "he wanted to sue Rufus for his losses" was a posting from another board. We were making fun of it.
thx tax, I was the one who posted that!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thats what I thought Tax... I was thinkin maybe dollar13 said it ...but in reflection, I think it came from IHUB.....
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Your right Tax. It was the girl who mortgaged her house wasn't it?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Not that this matters at all.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I didn't want to give her name I think it was Txprincess the one that Rufus guaranteed the $15 pps to.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
this will be one quick EOD run! lol ~
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
yea, but I pawned my 50 caliber, 12gauge shotgun, 2 9mm pistols and AT-4. lol, I wanna be guaranteed $25 pps!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
pbtssssssssssssss ~~~~~~ flat
Posted by maumee river rat on :
lookin that way ...isn't it!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Your right Tax. It was the girl who mortgaged her house wasn't it?
Yep. I heard on PalTalk she sent Rufas some flowers. Sounds like a crazy ******* to me. Here are some flowers... oh you don't like them and your time line is off!!! I'm gonna sue you!!! Posted by sunfire on :
why there were buys at ask and the pps kept going down?
Posted by luvforever on :
Who wouldnt want to be in this for monday? LOL Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: yea, but I pawned my 50 caliber, 12gauge shotgun, 2 9mm pistols and AT-4.
haha...you blow up any tanks lately?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
.99 on an up tic....Thats better than the down tic
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yep...everyone have a great weekend...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
The MM's are stupid... this stock dropped 30 cents on 200K sales the other day. But a million trades in the last hour keeps it nice and level.
Yeah right!
There is only one possible direction for a spring to go when you compress it. Shorty is gonna feel the pain when the 10K is released and I am not going to feel bad about it at all.
TB
Posted by SherriT on :
Not since they have had plenty of time to cover cheaply....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Have a good one every body!!!
10!!!
I tried that blue chit on a sallad....NOT BAD>later
Posted by SherriT on :
Have a great weekend, everyone!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Not since they have had plenty of time to cover cheaply....
Maybe they do maybe they don't... Only Ben and Rufas and that team of auditor know for sure. Have a good weekend all.
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: The MM's are stupid... this stock dropped 30 cents on 200K sales the other day. But a million trades in the last hour keeps it nice and level.
Yeah right!
There is only one possible direction for a spring to go when you compress it. Shorty is gonna feel the pain when the 10K is released and I am not going to feel bad about it at all.
TB
Unless the spring breaks.
Posted by luvforever on :
ok folks have a great weekend LOL Posted by P Rowds on :
when i left for work i honestly expected this to at least be back to around 1.60... that's at least. Can't remember what stock it was but they released a PR stating their stock is worth .02 with the current assets and rev. It climbed over 1,000% and closed around +800%... cshd states similar claims and plop... dollar:D haha, just makes me laugh.
NOTE: i may have "spewed" the wrong info on that 800 gainer. i tried to find it but couldn't recall what it was. maybe they "earned" that increase.
Posted by dog on :
Hey PRowds... still there ?
Posted by P Rowds on :
hey dog... i am now... but prob leave real soon...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning from coool San Diego. Hey P Rowds was that stock, that shot up 800 - 1000% in a day, by any chance PGPM ... I was there ... all day long ... nothing but up!
Anyway, all have a good weekend. Later.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It is really morning in San Diego... What the heck are you doin up, at 6:00 a/m, on a saturday??
Oh....
Good morning !!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Maybe this is old DD but something on Ihub spurred me on to check out Georgia Areospace's website about their trading symbol. So I checked it out and found that they have a trading symbol link on thier investor relations spot but it doesn't pull anything up. I'm wondering if they are geting ready to make it an active link once all this is finallized. Also if you look at their press realese it is obvious that with a RPH quote and all that they are certianly working togather. Also if they have not posted thier ticker symbol then maybe that might be becasue CVSU's website is essentially trading the old FHAL's ticker under the new CSHD but CVSU is not technically trading until SEC, 10K, and Halt is fully completed? And then also the stock info and chart will be active on the Georgia Arerospace website? These are just my thoughts. Maybe some of the vets have a "yes but" "not really" or "yes we've already gone there" reply to all this. Come on RUFI Come on $25 buckaroos Man when I saw that PR post thrusday night/ Friday morning I was so pumped. Didn't get to sleep till 4:00am and had to wake up at 6:00am for work.... needless to say I crashed hard after the market closed on friday. Happy Saturday!
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: when i left for work i honestly expected this to at least be back to around 1.60... that's at least. Can't remember what stock it was but they released a PR stating their stock is worth .02 with the current assets and rev. It climbed over 1,000% and closed around +800%... cshd states similar claims and plop... dollar:D haha, just makes me laugh.
NOTE: i may have "spewed" the wrong info on that 800 gainer. i tried to find it but couldn't recall what it was. maybe they "earned" that increase.
Could it have been IGAI? It had a % gain like that in one day, and the stock went to the .02-.03 range before it started back down. (Then again, I know this one does something like this every few months)
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
IGAI went to .056 from .0034!! Oh how nice it was. Thats why I still feel comfortable with all my purchases in CSHD and will not worry throughout the whole transaction process. I will leave here with a little more experience than I had before.
Also could be RSHN which made 1500% for folks and myself.
I love this game!!!
Posted by cool AZ on :
Hey Maumee R R, I'm usually in San Diego most weekends on business ... and usually up early. I know, ... I should be out here fishing or something ... all goes well and my next boat will be here.
It's a nice retreat from the Phoenix this time of year and it's always nice to see my friends! Speaking of friends, it's amazing how you sort of get to know people here and work together ... each in their own way of contributing to the benefit of all ... it would, most definetely, be a "party" to all meet up at some point (however that could be defined). Maybe we could invite Rufus .. might be most interesting to be able to fill in the blanks.
Hope you all find some peace and solitude this weekend because... I think we're in for a ride this next week ... on Monday then!
Posted by Drumdude101 on :
k Quick question~!!!~ I owned 100 shares of FHAL then it turned to this.... i want to buy more shares but i don't know if i can buy CSHD yet and still get the same profit when it changes to 25.00 pps. Can someone explain this to me? Will my 100 shares of FHAL i got at 1.00 be worth 2,500 when cshd gets its price set? and can i buy 100 more shares now of cshd before they reset the price and get the same gain and not be shorted?
Posted by coalkickin on :
yes
Posted by portman on :
Drum you will get what the market bears for this stock when you sell it. No more no less.
Be careful assuming any pricing of this. I hold a quite a few shares here but I am not asuuming I will get $15 or higher. It all depends on the 10K.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Anyone notice the change on the website?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Well, this seems to give a little extra credibility!
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CEO Recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the National Republican Congressional Committees Business Advisory Council PR Newswire - August 20, 2006 7:34 PM ET
Related Quotes Symbol Last Chg FURA Trade 0.99 +0.315 Real time quote.
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation would like to announce that our Chief Executive Officer, Rufus Paul Harris was the recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the Business Advisory Counsel (BAC) a project of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
Mr. Harris also qualifies for the BAC - NRCC most prestigious award the Congressional Medal of Distinction, awarded later this fall.
"I am extremely grateful for the tremendous support that Rufus has shown for our Party, especially in this critical election year," commented Congressman Tom Reynolds NRCC Chairman in a letter to Mr. Harris.
"This award is given to a select group of business and community leaders from each state that have championed the free enterprise system and supported the ideals of smaller government, lower taxes and less regulation," explained Congressman Tom Reynolds NRCC Chairman
"I would like to express my gratitude to the NRCC and Chairman Reynolds, for this opportunity, I fell that the NRCC and the BAC is the key to the Republican parties present and future." stated Rufus Paul Harris NRCC Membership # 507731769.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Rufus Paul Harris for Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, +1-770-420-8270, Harris*cvsu.us http://www.prnewswire.com
My faith in this crazy thing just keeps getting stronger! Ima
Posted by MikeSC on :
Yes, a nice vote of confidence to help lay recent worries about his integrity to rest.
I must admit that I was a bit worried about it myself. This does put my mind more at ease.
GLTA
Posted by coalkickin on :
nice
Posted by coalkickin on :
noticed the website also
Posted by dollar13 on :
nice, so what is the purpose in sending a PR like this SUNDAY ???
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Okay as much as I want to belive this, the award seems to be a weak hype attempt. Bud in Ihub says he recieved the same award in 2003, also from Tom Rynolds. He e-mailed me a pic of it at request as he offered to anyone. he did have a piece of paper over him name but it seemed like the same type of thing Rufus got. Seems like he just paid a few hundred dollars and got this award. Still DDing Posted by bigstocks on :
Yes, that was the change I meant.
Posted by dollar13 on :
would it be nice to see a 10K insted of that PR Posted by IMAKEMONEY on :
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by Drumdude101: k Quick question~!!!~ I owned 100 shares of FHAL then it turned to this.... i want to buy more shares but i don't know if i can buy CSHD yet and still get the same profit when it changes to 25.00 pps. Can someone explain this to me? Will my 100 shares of FHAL i got at 1.00 be worth 2,500 when cshd gets its price set? and can i buy 100 more shares now of cshd before they reset the price and get the same gain and not be shorted?
You can buy CSHD and get in on the same deal. However, the Friday PR just said that a price of $25.63 per share would be justifiable. That is not necessarily the price reflected in the 10K. Assuming all goes well, you should definitely make above $1 per share when you sell. Just remember that nothing is a sure thing and always make sure that you can afford to lose whatever you invest. It sounds grim, but that is reality. Posted by portman on :
Yes, the RNC does give these out. They also give out the press kits. They ask that business leaders put out a press release.
Sometimes they even take out a full page add in the WSJ and list everyone.
I am sure this is fueling yet another round of Oprah -like conversations everywhere. It's an award given to RNC donors. Nothing more nothing less. But if he gives enough he can likely meet with cabinet members and photo op with the pres.
Posted by silver2gold on :
The award is not the key issue, it's the man that gave it that counts.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE 3 April 2006 CONTACT: L.D. Platt (202) 225-5265 Reynolds, U.S. Attorney and District Attorney Target Investment Scams Aimed at Seniors Congressman says SEC, local law enforcement teaming up
Congressman Thomas M. Reynolds (R-Clarence) today appeared with U.S. Attorney for the Western District Terry Flynn and Erie County District Attorney Frank Clark to launch a new federal-state partnership targeting scams aimed at seniors. The new effort by the government is in response to various scams targeting seniors such as luring seniors into fraudulent investment opportunities by offering them free lunches.
"Whether it is 'Ponzi' schemes or free lunches, scam artists are focusing more and more on our seniors," stated Reynolds. "These scam artists are being put on notice: the government is watching, and we will pursue you with every tool at our disposal. While these scam artists use free lunches to target seniors, the government will take the fight to them and ensure they get a free lunch -- in jail."
The new partnership brings together the expertise of the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), state and local law enforcement officials, and federal and state regulatory agencies. The partnership was announced recently by SEC Chairman Chris Cox at a speech to the Consumer Federation of America. Cox outlined the growing number of seniors with investments, the risk they face, and the resources being used to target various scams.
"As the number of seniors grows, locally and nationally, more and more will be targeted by these scam sharks," added Reynolds. "Chairman Cox outlined what will be an effective and forceful effort of Federal, state and local officials in our effort to protect seniors, prevent scams and prosecute criminals."
According to the SEC, in the last two years alone, 26 enforcement actions have been taken against criminals who were targeting seniors with investment scams. In order to combat the various scams targeted at seniors, the SEC has launched a website: http://www.sec.gov/investor/seniors.shtml. The website has various educational and informational resources for seniors. Seniors can also receive a "Seniors Care Package" from the SEC, which includes information on facts about saving and investing, cold calling, a question and answer section and other information as well.
"Working as team, we can educate our seniors about the scams that exist out there," concluded Reynolds. "Our seniors deserve peace of mind in retirement, and this includes knowing that their retirement money is secure. This new effort by the SEC will go after these scam artists, and provide seniors with the resources to fight back."
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 20 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD - News), a Delaware Corporation would like to announce that our Chief Executive Officer, Rufus Paul Harris was the recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the Business Advisory Counsel (BAC) a project of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
Mr. Harris also qualifies for the BAC - NRCC most prestigious award the Congressional Medal of Distinction, awarded later this fall.
"I am extremely grateful for the tremendous support that Rufus has shown for our Party, especially in this critical election year," commented Congressman Tom Reynolds NRCC Chairman in a letter to Mr. Harris.
"This award is given to a select group of business and community leaders from each state that have championed the free enterprise system and supported the ideals of smaller government, lower taxes and less regulation," explained Congressman Tom Reynolds NRCC Chairman
"I would like to express my gratitude to the NRCC and Chairman Reynolds, for this opportunity, I fell that the NRCC and the BAC is the key to the Republican parties present and future." stated Rufus Paul Harris NRCC Membership # 507731769.
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: Yes, the RNC does give these out. They also give out the press kits. They ask that business leaders put out a press release.
Sometimes they even take out a full page add in the WSJ and list everyone.
I am sure this is fueling yet another round of Oprah -like conversations everywhere. It's an award given to RNC donors. Nothing more nothing less. But if he gives enough he can likely meet with cabinet members and photo op with the pres.
Best post I've seen regarding this award. Nothing in it that verifies the company is legit and nothing that says it's a scam. Just a way to repay contributors to the RNCC.
Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
Silvergold2:
There is absolutely no connection between the two. People have received this award in the past that later were taken back and monies were returned to the contributor. There is no vetting that is done prior to issuing it's all about fund raising. Like I stated before the award is not a plus or minus in regards to this stock.
GLTA Wally
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Okay, The reason that people (Ihub, mainly Bud) are saying this is a scam is that Bud has recieved nearly the same award back in 2003. He email me the pics and I can verify that he sent them to me and I saw them but I didn't see his name on them as he had them covered (for understandable identification reasons). Also some say this is a scam because Mr. Titus also just recieved this same award for the same state (Georgia). As far as Bud is concerned, Bud recieved the NJ Buisnessman of the Year award from Mr. Reynolds also. It must also be know that not only is Bud a buisnessman but he owns multiple reasturants on the coast and sounds like they are doing "well to quite well" (I think that is Singfeild humor??) AKA he is making a lot of money. So not to toot his own horn or anything, it really does seem like Bud might deserve such an award (Props to Bud). Now he ended up paying about 400 dollars to get it and it was prolly a way for politicians to get more money but I don't think Bud or Rufus can recieve this award unless they really do have a well run buisness. I have been in contact with bud just reacently on Pal talk and have chalenged him to proove that Joe Blow could recieve this award. He can not prove his claim, he just says "trust me" I told him that becasue I don't know his real name or favorite color I can't just trust him. LOL. I told him that I will not send this post if he notifies me that he is getting proof that is is a complete scam. No word as of yet... About Mr. Titus recieving the same award... There is nothing in the wording to say that it is exclusive to Rufus or Mr. Titus, rather exclusive to a "select group". With all due reaspect (especially since you have a this award and all that you still have readily available as to produce it online in a matter of minutes, prolly took it right off your wall) Mr. Bud, You have failed to prove this award to be anything but something to be proud of. No it's not the Congressional medal of Honour but it seems to point to Rufus as being a valid buisnessman. Okay I'm going to try to go to sleep... we all have a big day ahead of us all. Sincerly, Ima
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Port, Do you have a buisness??
Posted by portman on :
I did at one time (when I got the award). It is still around servicing a very select few clients and need near zero attention at this point.
Sometimes you get a better offer to help run someone else's businiess.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
So Portman, as an award reciever yourself, would you agree with my post? You you think Rufus could have gotten this if he did not have a legit buisness? Just wondering what your thoughts are? Thanks
Posted by P Rowds on :
so i went to gart sports in duluth GA today and i saw a 3000gt with the words "Godspeed" on the top of the windshield... think it was his? lol, made me laugh...
Posted by portman on :
Poor CS,
I do not think it validates anything other than he is a donor to the RNC.
Posted by dog on :
WAAAAHHOOOOOOO beyotches!!!!!
No seriously, from the get go you could see this......
just know who the NRCC is and you can see it . . . .
Hey people, think! Paying off the RNC= military contracts. Please think outside the box. This is definately good news. This shows he is trying! Shmooze factor very important here. The award in itself is not tht important, it is what you do with the award that matters. Be patient and good things will prevail!
ISTEN VELED EDES!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Portman, I think or thought at least that thiscould be a good thing... to me that's really neather here nor there. It doesn't seem to be some great distinguishing award (no offense) but My big thing is that it is not a part of a scam as was the theory put out at it's first release. It seems I think as you said or someone else that they also encourage you to PR it. It seems to me that RPH just did this thing, not a big deal but most importantly not a bad thing. If I read the PR for Big companies they put out very important PR's and also meanial PR's. this is just a menial PR it seems. If it bumps the pps great. If not okay. I just didn't want it to be a bad thing. Thanks for your in help and I really appreciate your postings Ima,
Posted by thecon00 on :
Posted August 18, 2006 11:47 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just thinking, the SEC must have been contacted a million times, with questions about CSHD/CVSU/FHAL. With all the attention this stock is getting, they still allow it to trade, so in my opinion Rufus and CSHD is legit. It's just a matter of time until all of us go OHHHHH, that's why we're worth 15-25 dollars a share. If you look at companies that have been frozen by the SEC, they didn't receive half of the attention this stock has. Just a matter of time folks. JMO
-------------------- -Cassity
Awesome post and I can’t believe I didn't realize the logic in this before! Nice Cassity.
I owned and currently own GAPJ, small penny play which was halted for over two weeks just due to spam emails earlier this year. They halted and then investigated. If SEC hasn't halted with an actual ticker change (which took two tries), the major claims by the CEO himself, and the huge number of inquiries, then there silence
Posted by sandor butosi on :
Rufus is giving us a positive hint for those with open eyes and ears!
Jo eitszakat
Posted by dog on :
True . . . this only buys time, 10k arrival near, but not in the next few days. However this does support the "who you know" factor, and the "how do I get government money to these businesses"... answer... Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
I wonder how many prominent Republicans are holding Conversion Solutions private stock?
Posted by dog on :
I would think twice about bashing at this point . . or shorting for that matter. He gave time for the institutions to cover,,, and anyone buying on a spike tomorrow with the intention of shorting it, is just slitting their own throat.
Posted by sandor butosi on :
tommorrow support at $1.10-1.20.
JO REGELT
Posted by dog on :
I see at least 1.20 tomorrow. Maybe EOD of 1.14.
I'm excited... but not unrealistic, and until I see money in my account ot doesn't mean scheizel.
Posted by Hustla on :
Until, the opening bell rings at 9:30 am tomorrow, nonething in this fluff PR means anything to me.
Maybe the PPS will go up or maybe not. For all I know this could have the same adverse effect on the PPS as when the RSHN ceo released a PR about their new connection with Myspace Dot Com. The PPS tanked bigtime that day.
I'll just wait for the opening bell and watch my Level 2. Get some sleep people its late. We're all in this and rest will do us good for tomorrow.
Posted by Market12 on :
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CEO Recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the National Republican Congressional Committees Business Advisory Council 8/20/2006
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug 20, 2006 /PRNewswire-FirstCall via COMTEX News Network/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation would like to announce that our Chief Executive Officer, Rufus Paul Harris was the recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the Business Advisory Counsel (BAC) a project of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
Mr. Harris also qualifies for the BAC - NRCC most prestigious award the Congressional Medal of Distinction, awarded later this fall.
"I am extremely grateful for the tremendous support that Rufus has shown for our Party, especially in this critical election year," commented Congressman Tom Reynolds NRCC Chairman in a letter to Mr. Harris.
"This award is given to a select group of business and community leaders from each state that have championed the free enterprise system and supported the ideals of smaller government, lower taxes and less regulation," explained Congressman Tom Reynolds NRCC Chairman
"I would like to express my gratitude to the NRCC and Chairman Reynolds, for this opportunity, I fell that the NRCC and the BAC is the key to the Republican parties present and future." stated Rufus Paul Harris NRCC Membership # 507731769.
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at www.cvsu.us.
SOURCE Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Rufus Paul Harris for Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, +1-770-420-8270, Harris*cvsu.us http://www.prnewswire.com
Copyright (C) 2006 PR Newswire. All rights reserved.
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
Dammit Rufus just come out with the 10K already so people can stop speculating and throwing wild theories out there. Your credibility is definitely on the line. I bought into this two weeks ago and wanna see something solid other than a meaningless award from the RNC.
Posted by portman on :
Well, today we shall see how good my prediction is.
Posted by coalkickin on :
what's your prediction
Posted by portman on :
I had marked today as the 10K day. So, here's to wishing all a happy one regardless of the outcome.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Good morning,
Seeing posts at other boards stating European shares have cleared in peoples accounts - should be the last of them I would think.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning Board ~ I'm for that last PR as being good. That's how things get done in government, you grease hands and we all know it. Remember Rufus' last 2 people he put on his board where governmental people leveraged on the Republican side... -remember?!
So yes I took this as another R/E/A/D (read between the lines) that everything is greased up and ready to go. Rufus did say there would be a nice parade of PR's to help support the $15 IPO share price. This last PR says alot IMO...
Now let's see what today brings! Peace ~
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Good morning folks....need to see a 10K for reinforcement of attitudes...I want a great attitude so I can change my latitudes...if you'll know the song....GLTA
Posted by dog on :
The key is the i.d. number in the PR. Others do get this award and release nearly identical press releases... his has his NRCC # there. These allow someone to access the personal database at the NRCC, contact numbers and the like. True it's fluff, not a 10 K, possibly a joke.... but defifnitely saying something... not sure what it is. Saw Govt. connection at the start of this. This is the craziest damn stock... will see what today holds.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Goodmorning all. Let's hope we see something today. I definately don't think the last pr was bad fluff yes. Not necessarily bad though.
Posted by portman on :
Not much action on the L2's this morning so far.
Posted by dog on :
L2's look weak
Posted by RyanPBF on :
a little action right now.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: The key is the i.d. number in the PR. Others do get this award and release nearly identical press releases... his has his NRCC # there. These allow someone to access the personal database at the NRCC, contact numbers and the like. True it's fluff, not a 10 K, possibly a joke.... but defifnitely saying something... not sure what it is. Saw Govt. connection at the start of this. This is the craziest damn stock... will see what today holds.
Crazy for sure but fun none the less.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
$1.00[+] x $1.005 and some trading activity before the open
Posted by RyanPBF on :
now it looks like they're going and take it down ask is dropping
Posted by RichBy26 on :
They're walking it down for no reason...
Posted by portman on :
took it down with repeated $1 sales way above ask/bid..odd day unfornding again.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Maybe it's the Democrats selling!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
BMIC looks like the one adjusting this thing
Posted by RyanPBF on :
where are all those sales below the bid coming from?
Posted by dog on :
Watch the 200 share sales... let's you know what they are doing... again MM's in control.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Good morning guys and gals...
You are all too funny. Come on now, you think this PR was fluff. I just read two page on allstocks that say different. Released on Sunday to do exactly what it did. Get attention and here is that word again "percolate" until market open. If this was a Wayne's World movie, the Myers and Carvey would be tugging on their jaws and making air fishing cast right now, yelling "Fished-In!" and "Hook line and sinker!"
PR's fluff or not have a purpose, whether it is general information, public notification, or just to throw some blood in the water to attract the sharks.
We will have a 10K when Rufas wants us too, until then those who trade this stock at a dollar is a non-believer of Rufas, anyone who holds long in hope of a huge payday is a believer.
I for one am the latter as you all know. Mainly because other than a few time line shifts there has been one word from RPH and associated CSHD DD that has not been found as true and accurate to the point we can verify. I am waiting for a 10K, because for me that is all the verification I need. I am not holding this stock one more second longer than I believe that the 10K is still progressing.
The PR this weekend was great it got everyone salivating for Monday. GLTA no matter how you trade or invest in this crazy market. Unless you are shorty... then I hope you success dodging this stock cause some shorts may get heavily burned in CSHD. And you might hear me giggle when it happens. Posted by RyanPBF on :
bunch of 10k blocks going at 1.00
Posted by dog on :
Not just fluff Tax.... but a teaser... I don't think we are getting a 10K today.... again you know I paid to see a 10K as well... and I think it's coming, just not today.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
38.5k at a dollar...
Posted by dog on :
Not just fluff Tax.... but a teaser... I don't think we are getting a 10K today.... again you know I paid to see a 10K as well... and I think it's coming, just not today.
Posted by dog on :
Not just fluff Tax.... but a teaser... I don't think we are getting a 10K today.... again you know I paid to see a 10K as well... and I think it's coming, just not today.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Well said Tax. I too am a believer in that the few times I began to doubt, something happenned (PR) just the way RPH said it would. Everything he said he was going to do he has done. No reason to not believe at this point. He has gained his credibilty!
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Good morning guys and gals...
You are all too funny. Come on now, you think this PR was fluff. I just read two page on allstocks that say different. Released on Sunday to do exactly what it did. Get attention and here is that word again "percolate" until market open. If this was a Wayne's World movie, the Myers and Carvey would be tugging on their jaws and making air fishing cast right now, yelling "Fished-In!" and "Hook line and sinker!"
PR's fluff or not have a purpose, whether it is general information, public notification, or just to throw some blood in the water to attract the sharks.
We will have a 10K when Rufas wants us too, until then those who trade this stock at a dollar is a non-believer of Rufas, anyone who holds long in hope of a huge payday is a believer.
I for one am the latter as you all know. Mainly because other than a few time line shifts there has been one word from RPH and associated CSHD DD that has not been found as true and accurate to the point we can verify. I am waiting for a 10K, because for me that is all the verification I need. I am not holding this stock one more second longer than I believe that the 10K is still progressing.
The PR this weekend was great it got everyone salivating for Monday. GLTA no matter how you trade or invest in this crazy market. Unless you are shorty... then I hope you success dodging this stock cause some shorts may get heavily burned in CSHD. And you might hear me giggle when it happens.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
They keep taking this down on buys
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Not just fluff Tax.... but a teaser... I don't think we are getting a 10K today.... again you know I paid to see a 10K as well... and I think it's coming, just not today.
I am glad you have some idea as to when to expect it. Because honestly now I do not. I have been "expecting it tomorrow" so long... sometimes now just for fun I "expect it yesterday". It will be here when it is good and ready. GL
TB
Posted by Lootcifer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: They keep taking this down on buys
Thats because the MMs need shares and they want them cheap so don't be surprised if they pulled that same stunt they did last Thursday
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Oh I won't just irritates me.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
As for this share price... It has no basis. I am seriously thinking of betting the farm on this one. There is no logical reason this company "if" it has all it claims to have is trading this low. The current PPS is an absolute joke! I wouldn't sell one share of my stock in this company for less than $5 at this point yet fools keep trading.
Joke, I tell you and the literal puch-line is comming in the form of a 10K.
Look at these L2's 0.9520?? Who the heck is trading this thing? A bunch of penny MM with out a clue of what they are doing...
OK I vented. Posted by dog on :
I know Tax . . . this monkey is far better than any lotto ticket.
It's almost done... and anyone remotely familiar at trading or investment would be crazy not to throw $1000 at this stock at the dollar price... amazing.... I've bought several times into this... and it was generally on the way up. A dollar geez...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: As for this share price... It has no basis. I am seriously thinking of betting the farm on this one. There is no logical reason this company "if" it has all it claims to have is trading this low. The current PPS is an absolute joke! I wouldn't sell one share of my stock in this company for less than $5 at this point yet fools keep trading.
Joke, I tell you and the literal puch-line is comming in the form of a 10K.
Look at these L2's 0.9520?? Who the heck is trading this thing? A bunch of penny MM with out a clue of what they are doing...
OK I vented.
this will be unpredictable. its either all true and everyone makes money or its a HUGE SCAM. i hope its the latter
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: As for this share price... It has no basis. I am seriously thinking of betting the farm on this one. There is no logical reason this company "if" it has all it claims to have is trading this low. The current PPS is an absolute joke! I wouldn't sell one share of my stock in this company for less than $5 at this point yet fools keep trading.
Joke, I tell you and the literal puch-line is comming in the form of a 10K.
Look at these L2's 0.9520?? Who the heck is trading this thing? A bunch of penny MM with out a clue of what they are doing...
OK I vented.
--I think you speak for alot of us! Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning ... back in AZ ... looks like it's going to be one of those days!
I agree tax ... but there are always those looking for the crumbs while ignoring the main meal!
The award pr is good because it's telling us that Rufus is in position to "do business". As crazy as everything is right now, it is nice to know even the little things, like this, are developing.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: this will be unpredictable. its either all true and everyone makes money or its a HUGE SCAM. i hope its the latter
GLTU, I personally, think you are flipping insane tho. In my opinion even if this thing is a scam (Which I am pretty confident it is not.) it will easily see $5 before it will ever see $0.28 again. This has gone too far at this point.
He could submit my college thesis as the 10K at this point and before everyone read it end to end this thing would be well on it's way to $25.
He already has his name and signature on an 8K, several PRs, and voice recorded interviews with legal council at his side. A scam? Just hand me you money now, save your self the humiliation of giving it to your broker to pay your shorts.
I love it when new people show up? They are always so doom and gloom. Posted by ruthie on :
I think we will know by around 2:00 if this is going to be a profitable day or the other way around. I hope this thing does work out like some think it will, but at times I do wish I had sold all when it was up at 1.66 a share....
Posted by dog on :
Woulda ..coulda shoulda... my first set of buys was at $1.39.
Could have made a little money flippin, but never wanted to get caught at any EOD without shares... so I sat tight.
Whatever... gimme a 10K and call it a day.
I do not believe that a group of young men like this would have a huge death wish together... i.e long nights in prison.
They haven't made any money from all these days of hard ass work....
The payoff is in making it happen!
Posted by Lootcifer on :
quote:Originally posted by ruthie: I think we will know by around 2:00 if this is going to be a profitable day or the other way around. I hope this thing does work out like some think it will, but at times I do wish I had sold all when it was up at 1.66 a share....
With you onthat Ruthie. Remember until we see the 10K this whole thing is moving on hype regardless of how confident anyone feels about this stock. Bottom line is if you are seriously trading you have to flip to protect your capital. If anyone is in it because they can afford to lose their initial investment then good for them, go ahead and lose it on a gamble. I don't have a crystal ball so I play it safe.
Posted by dog on :
ninety fukin cents for this stock . . . BS. Waiting for the day that peope tell me I got "lucky" with this stock. Lucky my azz, this thing has been a test of my wits and nuts.
You'll never get an experience like this stock again... it's been damn entertaining and infuriating. I know I've earned my windfall.
Sorry just venting too..... now back to this pathetic display.
Posted by 10of13 on :
IMO..don't think that Trade04 is being doom and gloom...simply stating a view point and wishing luck...
It may appear the ducks might be lined up in a row...but I'm not overly confident that they are truly ducks...time will tell and I am hopin' for the best...but the 10k needs to appear or this thing will fall...hard!
Understand that the PPS at this moment means nothing...but many will panic sell...and if it does turn out to never happen...many will loose money...Just be careful that all have protected their capital...
C'mon 10K...Rufis..no fluff...let's see the stuff!
Posted by ruthie on :
That is definitely the key...protecting you capital...
Posted by dog on :
Too late for that here... LOL
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: As for this share price... It has no basis. I am seriously thinking of betting the farm on this one. There is no logical reason this company "if" it has all it claims to have is trading this low. The current PPS is an absolute joke! I wouldn't sell one share of my stock in this company for less than $5 at this point yet fools keep trading.
Joke, I tell you and the literal puch-line is comming in the form of a 10K.
Look at these L2's 0.9520?? Who the heck is trading this thing? A bunch of penny MM with out a clue of what they are doing...
OK I vented.
--I think you speak for alot of us!
How true AND yes, I'm thinking of betting the farm too. I've got some poor performers and would dump them if the PPS of CSHD falls around .75 again. I hope it doesn't...or do I? Hmmm. I am seriously conflicted. Posted by Hustla on :
As we argue on about nonsense the PPS is tanking because MMs are greedy F's and they want shares. I'm watching this L2 very closely because volume is very low which means not a ton of selling so the MMs might bring it lower to force hands into selling cheap. The weak ones that is whoevers holding some right now like myself better have nerves of steal. That one woman last week was ready to sue because she was down $9000. Hope we don't see anyone else like that again
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Maybe gonna fill the gap from .73 - current pps
Posted by djg7 on :
Please no more fluff prs. We need the 10K or this may fall like NDOL. I really hope I'm wrong but it is looking that way.
Posted by Vin on :
Picked up some more at .85. Was pretty hard not to get a few at that price.
Posted by 10of13 on :
these L2's are nuts...
Posted by Hustla on :
Vin I think you shoulda waited cause personally I think its gonna go lower than that today, volume is still low. Are you watching the L2????
Posted by Vin on :
It's strange how the price keeps falling below the bid and the ask.
Posted by Vin on :
Can't do that from here. I didn't buy many for that same thought though...but some "JUST" in case! Posted by dog on :
See that 200 buy? Signals a drop. Someone need shares.... they are flipping.
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Can't do that from here. I didn't buy many for that same thought though...but some "JUST" in case!
Nothing wrong with that "PROTECT YOUR CAPITAL" name of the game.
Posted by SherriT on :
Gang, I am so THRILLED! I did my first (read: positive) flip today! ;-) And now I actually have more shares to hold - all that means is I have good karma for a chance, so good things are coming for us and this stock
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: See that 200 buy? Signals a drop. Someone need shares.... they are flipping.
nice observation dog I saw that too, they're bringing it down
Posted by ruthie on :
Hey gang, wonder why this stock is still on the forum $.10 and under ?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Gang, I am so THRILLED! I did my first (read: positive) flip today! ;-) And now I actually have more shares to hold - all that means is I have good karma for a chance, so good things are coming for us and this stock
Whoo Hooo...alright Sherri!
Posted by trade04 on :
no such thing as mm signals. so many rookies lol
and signals are sent privately im sure!
stock has been going down for 2 days, how convinient to see a smallt rade of 200 which at this price could be a legitimate buy or part of an order..any shmuck could place a 200 or 300 or w/e buy all or none and you have like a 50% chance of it printing (depends on the stock)
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Please no more fluff prs. We need the 10K or this may fall like NDOL. I really hope I'm wrong but it is looking that way.
Yeah I can't believe they released that fluff Friday about recieving another measly $500 million dollars to their asset backed management facility. I mean it was not like it was a "B" as in billion, only a pitiful $500 million. Why would I expect the market cap to be over 82 million dollars this morning??? Silly me.
I am just joking djg7, I know you were talking about Sundays release. I am just amazed that Friday's release didn't have more impact on this PPS. Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah...cell phones are much more effective...
i mean...i could be screwing with ya dog placing 200 share buys and sells, lol...
Posted by dog on :
They are trading amongst themselves.... helping eachother make money on flips.... watch all the signals. But, they only do that on stable stock. Working to shake a few shares out of the weak
Posted by Lootcifer on :
For the newbies in this watching the streamer and Level2. Here's a list of the MM signals that will tell you what they're going to do to the PPS.
These are MM signals. 100 share transaction> I need shares
200 share transaction> I need shares badly but dont take it down to get them.
300 share transaction> Take the price down to get shares....
400 share transaction> Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 share transaction> Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Lootcifer: For the newbies in this watching the streamer and Level2. Here's a list of the MM signals that will tell you what they're going to do to the PPS.
These are MM signals. 100 share transaction> I need shares
200 share transaction> I need shares badly but dont take it down to get them.
300 share transaction> Take the price down to get shares....
400 share transaction> Trade it sideways based on Supply and Demand
500 share transaction> Gap one way or the other, usually to the direction of the 500 trade. Sometimes -if in the middle -keep the price right where it is.
These are very old...and really aren't used IMO...I am sure they have some sort of way to comminicate...but I really don't believe that this is it anymore...FWIW
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
guys...this is trading at a dollar...not .0005 a lot of people trade with $500 or so at a time...this signal business is kinda funny...
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Please no more fluff prs. We need the 10K or this may fall like NDOL. I really hope I'm wrong but it is looking that way.
Yeah I can't believe they released that fluff Friday about recieving another measly $500 million dollars to their asset backed management facility. I mean it was not like it was a "B" as in billion, only a pitiful $500 million. Why would I expect the market cap to be over 82 million dollars this morning??? Silly me.
I am just joking djg7, I know you were talking about Sundays release. I am just amazed that Friday's release didn't have more impact on this PPS.
NS Tax! Way less action on Friday than I thought after that news. Goes to $1.61 on 500 Mill and $15 reset, but .97 PPS on 1 Billion and $25 reset... go figure.
I guess they can't do math.... but 500 is more than 1... LOL
Posted by Lootcifer on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: no such thing as mm signals. so many rookies lol
and signals are sent privately im sure!
stock has been going down for 2 days, how convinient to see a smallt rade of 200 which at this price could be a legitimate buy or part of an order..any shmuck could place a 200 or 300 or w/e buy all or none and you have like a 50% chance of it printing (depends on the stock)
You're wrong on that one Trade04. MMs use them all the time. You should know that as an experienced trader right???
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
And before anyone comments on, "I am just amazed that Friday's release didn't have more impact on this PPS." yes I know it is because there is no 10K to back it up.
Get on with it Rufas. Posted by cool AZ on :
Cannot believe how this is manipulated .. the circumstances starting back with the FHAL tree rescue in the Amazon ... the start of the shorts, etc.
Cannot believe how this all is still available at this price. If you have been in pennyland for awhile, you know what you have here.
Cannot believe how I'm going to think about rounding up more $ to get more shares.
And, I probably won't even believe, if one plays this right, how rewarding the outcome will be. Sure there's the money but also the relationships, the focus, and maybe the confidence to move forward ... and how about some fun along the way?
Posted by trade04 on :
you have almost 2 weeks to round up so more cash i believe
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i thought it was five or six weeks? is it Sept1 or Sept30?
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Gang, I am so THRILLED! I did my first (read: positive) flip today! ;-) And now I actually have more shares to hold - all that means is I have good karma for a chance, so good things are coming for us and this stock
Congrats, I always tell people to do that. Some of us are doing this for fun, some of us are doing this as a suppliment income. Don't know which you are, but you did good.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: i thought it was five or six weeks? is it Sept1 or Sept30?
i dont know but some guy on ihub said he called ben (fwiw) do your own dd though
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Calling the real estate agent now! Got to get the farm on the market!!! I have till Sept 30th, or Sept 1st, or tomorrow, or now, but definitely not yesterday to get more cash. Thanks!!!
I am glad that is cleared up... shew!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: i thought it was five or six weeks? is it Sept1 or Sept30?
i dont know but some guy on ihub said he called ben (fwiw) do your own dd though
Oh yeah RIGHT! Well I know the guy who repairs Rufas's fax machine and he said it's not broken!!! But do you own DD on that.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: i thought it was five or six weeks? is it Sept1 or Sept30?
i dont know but some guy on ihub said he called ben (fwiw) do your own dd though
Oh yeah RIGHT! Well I know the guy who repairs Rufas's fax machine and he said it's not broken!!! But do you own DD on that.
thats nothing, my cousin is their fed ex worker assigned to their building
Posted by dog on :
Stopped in its tracks.... shake over?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha everyone...i was refering to the deadline set by the SEC or NASDAQ for filings...not what someones brother-in-law's sisters cousin was saying, lol...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Hustla:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Gang, I am so THRILLED! I did my first (read: positive) flip today! ;-) And now I actually have more shares to hold - all that means is I have good karma for a chance, so good things are coming for us and this stock
Congrats, I always tell people to do that. Some of us are doing this for fun, some of us are doing this as a suppliment income. Don't know which you are, but you did good.
I don't know which I am either - I know I have above average intelligence, so there isn't any reason not to give this a try...who couldn't use supplemental income with two small children, but it's so much fun, hard to decline that as a possibility! Those in the world who can make money having fun are definately lucky...
Thanks Hustla and 10!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm just sitting back now and watching the show... Price means nothing to me till AFTER the IPO
Still LONG ~
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'm just sitting back now and watching the show... Price means nothing to me till AFTER the IPO
Still LONG ~
i doubt youlll still be saying that if cshd falls to .30
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'm just sitting back now and watching the show... Price means nothing to me till AFTER the IPO
Still LONG ~
i doubt youlll still be saying that if cshd falls to .30
Gee sounds like someone has a bad case of the Mondays!!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
In the DD folks have performed, has anyone been able to track the time of day that this company has filed their SEC documents, ..i.e. is there any consistency on when they file during the day, or if it's afterhours?
Posted by milliam on :
Man...this thing is dead. Volume has completely dried up! I think the shake is over...either that or they ran out of participants.
GLTA!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: In the DD folks have performed, has anyone been able to track the time of day that this company has filed their SEC documents, ..i.e. is there any consistency on when they file during the day, or if it's afterhours?
Since Conversion was a private company... Rufas didn't do a whole lot of filing. But I will be sure to note the time and day of the 10K when it gets filed. Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah for about an hour now...nothing...
it'll break one way or the other soon enough...
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
How about FHAL's filings?
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: In the DD folks have performed, has anyone been able to track the time of day that this company has filed their SEC documents, ..i.e. is there any consistency on when they file during the day, or if it's afterhours?
Since Conversion was a private company... Rufas didn't do a whole lot of filing. But I will be sure to note the time and day of the 10K when it gets filed.
Posted by trade04 on :
where are fhals filings by the way...last i checked they arent existing on pink sheets and cshd's - the site says this service is unaavailable, w/e that means
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Gee sounds like someone has a bad case of the Mondays!!
Yeah bashers and shorts seem to be just a tad bit negative on these boards. Go figure.
I really like it when good news hits and they all disappear. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: How about FHAL's filings?
The shell? "Fronthaul"/"Furia"??? Who cares when they filed, they are not driving this ship anymore. Sounds like someone needs to do their own DD.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'm just sitting back now and watching the show... Price means nothing to me till AFTER the IPO
Still LONG ~
i doubt youlll still be saying that if cshd falls to .30
I do keep an eye on support and resistance levels, but no... I will not sell low.
I've read everything that there is to read, took D & D as far as it could go, IMO this deal with the price reset is going through, how much $$ is the only question. After that last real PR it sounds like it may be a hair more then $15.
You can tell a seasoned trader from the greenhorns by the way they trade. Seasoned ones have a predifined set of rules they follow and don't trade on emotions.
So no,... Something as simple as the price dropping will not scare me into selling. The last price scare we had rebounded and all of us who bought back in made a nice profit "again."
If I thought there was a reason to sell I would mention it, -I don't.
Aside from games being played with the price right now what can one say that would make me sell???... Nothing! If there was something this board would know it IMO.
There are some very good people on this board, they do good D & D and they don't jump to conclusions and when dips come we talk through them and scan any news and all rumors even, NOT emotions...
This board ROCKS!
So no, I careless if it falls all the way to .10 where I first bought in, I'm LONG because of the info that's out there.... MY EMOTIONS (or greed) HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Everything in life is a gamble, after weighing out everything here I believe the odds are in the LONGS favor.
A 10k will prove that, but Rufus is driving the boat, sit back, keep your eyes open and enjoy the ride IMO ~ Posted by trade04 on :
i didnt say it would scare you into selling....however i do think that if it falls to .30...you will be second guessing your investment and its authenticity...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
oh don't get me wrong trade04... This has been one Rolaid chomping SOB!! LOL ~
But what keeps me in is the info that I have, not my emotion...
That is what I was trying to convey ~ Posted by new2stocks on :
Posted by: bluediamonds In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 49926 Date:8/21/2006 12:01:53 PM Post #of 50114
INTERESTING QUESTION FOR BASHERS: If Rufus does not have the interest in these bonds that have been PRed, why haven't those who do own these large bonds stepped forward?
Also, what does Rufus have to gain if he is claiming these bonds as assets, if this is not legitimate?
A few days of fame before he is found out and prosecuted?
Seems highly unlikely to me.
We are not talking about small numbers here either, Rufus is now claiming CSHD has brought in over $1 BILLION in bonds into "CSHD's Asset Back Management facility" and claiming he will back this up with a 10-K to be filed with the SEC.
If this is not true, surely you bashers and naked shorters would have already alerted the real bond holders that Rufus is publicly using their bonds in PRs, as if they are assets in CSHD, and that they should speedily alert authorities of this scam.
Funny this has not happened, as this would be the quickest way you bashers could prove CSHD is a scam and shut Rufus down, especially since, in the last PR, Rufus is still claiming the 10-K is coming (to prove everything he is saying).
Come on bashers, get with it, you can shut this thing down now, if it is really a scam -- however, considering you have not done this (at least to my knowledge), what does that tell us?
Should be an interesting 10-K, especially when we get to see what the price of CSHD's shares are reset at!
Any guesses?
$25
$30
$32
Other?
IMO
FWIW:
Posted by: Hypersloth In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 48126 Date:8/19/2006 12:16:54 PM Post #of 48138
NO HERE is the best question.
If they are false, he KNOWS some of the sleuths on here would find out. HELL even if they are 100% correct, the DUH-Streets and Distortion er I mean dimension will discredit it SOMEHOW.
Knowing this, why would anyone publically claim with tracking #'s any information that was false. AND spend the money on the PR. That would take the stock into the ground faster than anything.
If THAT was his interest, then, well...Rufus would be in big trouble.
THAT IS NOT HAPPENING.
I think this guy actually cares about the people that follow this and believe in him. Otherwise, I don't think he needs to release the PR's that he does. He could just wait till the big 10 is released.
Posted by thecon00 on :
Originally posted by TaxBack04: As for this share price... It has no basis. I am seriously thinking of betting the farm on this one. There is no logical reason this company "if" it has all it claims to have is trading this low. The current PPS is an absolute joke! I wouldn't sell one share of my stock in this company for less than $5 at this point yet fools keep trading.
Joke, I tell you and the literal puch-line is comming in the form of a 10K.
Look at these L2's 0.9520?? Who the heck is trading this thing? A bunch of penny MM with out a clue of what they are doing...
OK I vented.
Tax- Completely agree.
Something strange is definitely happening here but if the market thinks .89 or .90 are all we are going to see from this whether it is real or not, then I think most are going to lose out. Will this end up near $25? I have no idea. WILL THERE BE A MOVE UP IN PRICE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS? IMHO, YES. What causes it be it the 10k or otherwise is yet to be seen, but Rufus is clearly not done with this just yet.
-CON
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Thx for getting that for us New2stocks Posted by RyanPBF on :
Over on Ihub they posted a copy of a paltalk conversation. It said that someone called Lehman Brothers and confirmed with them that The Humanitarian Group owns that Bond. Has anyone else read this.
Posted by Schwabie on :
Plot thickens. Yet all rumors ... lol
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Over on Ihub they posted a copy of a paltalk conversation. It said that someone called Lehman Brothers and confirmed with them that The Humanitarian Group owns that Bond. Has anyone else read this.
They are trying to call.....
Posted by trade04 on :
i think mms are trying to exhaust buying
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Just started looking at this issue in July so I did not see what had happened with SEC filings in prior months. I was thinking it might be illustrative to know when the officers of the company (like Rufus Harris and Ben Stanley) have had their staff file the SEC documents in whichever company they lead (CSHD, FHAL, Furia, etc..) I have looked on OTCBB and do not see any time stamps (and perhaps I have not looked in thr appropriate place) on the documents listed under CSHD. As the members on this Board prove to exchange info, I was hoping for some quick feedback. In the meantime I'll keep DD'ing.
(which
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: How about FHAL's filings?
The shell? "Fronthaul"/"Furia"??? Who cares when they filed, they are not driving this ship anymore. Sounds like someone needs to do their own DD.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Here's the post I was just talking about.
skeptic: Paltalk: $579M BOND CALL to Lehman Brothers
FWIW:
Posted by: chevyrider In reply to: None Date:8/21/2006 12:02:39 PM Post #of 50095
dogmando: Look guys I think that this number is very good so lets focus on this bond new2market: for the people new2market: that own the bond ThrashPie: mothra.... what the hell are you talking about? dogmando: Who has access to the bond n00b_101_1: look at dell the sec tells people they are investigating new2market: ok.. new2market: people people Trout31: Who is calling ? new2market: can you come up with quesitons to ask for the people that own the bond new2market: dogmando is calling new2market: so questions aleemm: who is earning the 6.125% on the bond? new2market: ok.. ThrashPie: "Has the 10K been filed?"dogmando: Tell them you are calling in reference to the ownership aleemm: that is kinda askin the question but not mothra_2: who is the current holder of the bond? aleemm: ask who is gettin paid interest that will answer the question without askin for ownership dogmando: ask if they have heard of the Humanitarian relief fund mothra_2: ask both new2market: hold on who is calling? dogmando: does anyone know bonds because I dont AtomicTraders: you guys are nuts if you think they'll tell you who all owns the bond aleemm: well they wont answer most questions if you aren't an institution dogmando: I want someone with more knowledge than me ThrashPie: Wheres Amph? 02_salma: hello SYGY1: post the # then Dog dogmando: F AMP ThrashPie: salma... What is CSHD? dogmando: I will only IM the number to the caller dogmando: dont want their phones flooded dogmando: we need to hurry because it is 4pm there new2market: where in europe is this dog? Valis333: do they speak english? dogmando: i wasnt told this informaiton dogmando: yes new2market: 02_salma has been bounced from the group by: new2market Valis333: just call, you know what to ask mothra_2: dog...just call...it is better to get your call in than no call at all Valis333: agreed mothra_2: they are probably on ciesta right now Valis333: lol Valis333: im goin to get some coffee Valis333: be back soon AtomicTraders: i believe it's a london location of lehmans, correct? ThrashPie: Speaking of Ciesta.. No trades... ThrashPie: l8 valis Trout31: dogman you need to call right now.... its really late over there dogmando: calling sbtrader: good ThrashPie: Dog! Dog! Dog! tanks1: calm down SYGY1: speakin' of europe ,,anybody know if they got shares transfered? AtomicTraders: say something like: The Humanitarian fund, blah blah in the USA has recently press released owning A+ Lehman bonds with cusip XXXXXX, I would like to verify this information, could you please verify? thank-you." dogmando: yes sbtrader: yes they did SYGY1: right on ThrashPie: Good AT sbtrader: jossy on hsm posted this morning that their German shares were transfered SYGY1: kool Trout31: Someone said this Morning that Germany .....accounts got shares of CSHD ....today SteffanieBonita: oh god SteffanieBonita: everyone in this stupid paltalk are idiots sbtrader: lol
Yes./..bond info exactly as stated on PR's. Cannot confirm who or if CSHD is connected, but it would be a poor move for any idiot to expose himself to legality by referencing to it falsely.
Rufus may sound slow... but I don't think he's that stupid. IMHO
Posted by dog on :
upward pressure...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I just put it up there just in case somebody just wanted to read it. I'll just post the link next time.
Posted by mnvestor on :
Someone is on phone now, no verification yet
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: where are fhals filings by the way...last i checked they arent existing on pink sheets and cshd's - the site says this service is unaavailable, w/e that means
on the OTCBB, some FHAL filings (under Furia's name) seem to be accessible when searching for filings under CSHD.
Posted by luvforever on :
HELLO ALL...Anyone starting to think ole Ruffie wants the shorts to cover cause he sure isn't in any hurry for the 10k to get out...MO is if he wanted to squeeze them shorts he'd have put that bad boy out by now... LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
IMO, Rufas is not "slow". He has shown so far that his knowledge of the "game" is equal if not better than the shorts. Personally, I think he is laying out the rope, giving them just enought to hang themselvs with.
My favorite "Rufas-ism" comment was from the last legal supervised interview on PalTalk where he said against the recomendation of the attorney, "If you want to sell. Sell." "That is not the type of investor we want long term anyway."
Personally, I have always believed that the sign of a healthy company is independence from the shareholders.
No CEO should be interested in my 2 cents as an investor. My day to day should mean nothing to his day to day. If Rufas showed signs of caring about my dollar investment then I would be worried as to why?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor: Someone is on phone now, no verification yet
OK???
Posted by Chartwalker on :
TaxBack04.. There are alot of things like that, all of them pointing to the fact that this will happen. Rufus is no pumper, and he isn't jumping the gun with anything. So far I like his style.
My gut hates it!! lol But putting yourself in his shoes you get a better feel of what's going on... - I think something big. We all know about the Billion in assets from just two deals and with Rufus saying to bashers "You'll remember my name for the rest of your lives I promise you" -I wouldn't bet against him right now. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor: Someone is on phone now, no verification yet
Is their fax machine broken... cause I know this guy. LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: TaxBack04.. There are alot of things like that, all of them pointing to the fact that this will happen. Rufus is no pumper, and he isn't jumping the gun with anything. So far I like his style.
My gut hates it!! lol But putting yourself in his shoes you get a better feel of what's going on... - I think something big. We all know about the Billion in assets from just two deals and with Rufus saying to bashers "You'll remember my name for the rest of your lives I promise you" -I wouldn't bet against him right now.
Oh so true... Pro poker at it's best. This Rufas guy has the shades on and the emotion-less face, but you know he has a "hell-of-a" hand. I just wish he would show already! But I will wait while he trys to prompt shorty to "go-all-in" for the win. Posted by sceptor on :
He has shown his hand. Ihub'rs are now confirming thru bloomberg that the humanitarian group owns the bond.
Posted by dog on :
Posted by: mastaflash In reply to: None Date:8/21/2006 1:08:40 PM Post #of 50178
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Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: He has shown his hand. Ihub'rs are now confirming thru bloomberg that the humanitarian group owns the bond.
I'm very happy they are confirming... But I'm not jumping up and down because I knew it would. If it was a hoax a 10k would have been filed and the share price would have shot up along with that news and then Rufus and company would be on an airplane! lol ~
Sometimes I can't believe it, but this is happening, a big powerplay from a NON-penny stock company.
I don't see a 10k being filed soon (could be wrong) instead if I were Rufus I'd PR a little more while I worked on still yet other deals.
We just have to wait for this one IMO...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Chartwalker your patience is unsettling. I would appreciate more urgency in your estimations please....
I have got years I would wait, months I can wait, days I will wait, hours I will happily wait, and minutes till I pass out from holding my breath.
I would like to view your calendar so we can get on the same schedule and I no longer anticipate a "surprise". Let's start simply is there 24 hours in one of you calendar days? Is today Tuesday on your planet? Posted by Sandusky on :
AAAHHHAAA! Now we're speaking in terms I can identify with! Seems to me Rufi is still placing bets...hasn't called yet. Bluffing or not, he wants more jingle on the table, hence the new bond deal Friday. If this guy doesn't play hold em' he really should start...
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: TaxBack04.. There are alot of things like that, all of them pointing to the fact that this will happen. Rufus is no pumper, and he isn't jumping the gun with anything. So far I like his style.
My gut hates it!! lol But putting yourself in his shoes you get a better feel of what's going on... - I think something big. We all know about the Billion in assets from just two deals and with Rufus saying to bashers "You'll remember my name for the rest of your lives I promise you" -I wouldn't bet against him right now.
Oh so true... Pro poker at it's best. This Rufas guy has the shades on and the emotion-less face, but you know he has a "hell-of-a" hand. I just wish he would show already! But I will wait while he trys to prompt shorty to "go-all-in" for the win.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Chartwalker your patience is unsettling. I would appreciate more urgency in your estimations please....
I have got years I would wait, months I can wait, days I will wait, hours I will happily wait, and minutes till I pass out from holding my breath.
I would like to view your calendar so we can get on the same schedule and I no longer anticipate a "surprise". Let's start simply is there 24 hours in one of you calendar days? Is today Tuesday on your planet?
I'll have "my people" call "your people" -We'll do lunch!
Hey, a man like Rufus is not going to be pushed into doing anything by some stock board, whether we like it or not Rufus is holding ALL of the cards. He has till Sept 30th to lay them down so like it or not I would'nt expect anything till then (God I hope it isn't that long!), but everything is in place and on top of that the deals are rolling in.
Soooooo. We can get ourselves all worked up over nothing day after day or see things as they are IMO.
It's still the same stock, same deal -except maybe $500,000,000.00 better! lol ~
Heck yes I can wait..... Wait all the way to the bank!
GLTA Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Arrrgggh! I am sorry all. I can't help it. I am ready for my percentage gain and the waiting game was never my favorite form of pastime. I am itching today because it is "another" Monday, and for no other reason. I will wait for Rufas as long as it takes, because "I got a vice grip on my slips!" But for all those old MTV fans out there picture this.
I am the spitting image of Beavis portraying "Senior Cornholio!" right now. I got my shirt over my head, fists gripped, shaking like a severe case of Hypertension. The only verbal communication I can muster is something that sounds like "Eeh, eeh..." or "I need some TP!! TP for my..."
Definitely getting ugly over here. Just glad it hasn't effected my typpppiiinnggg!
LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
lmao!!! ~~~
TP for the "cornholio" ha ha ~
I hear ya! But the check is in the mail, not a dang thing we can do except talk about Cornhlio's, naked indians and BLUE shampoo! LMAO!!
Where's Rat anyway?...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
are you thrrreatening me he he he. One of the best Beavis and Butthead episodes ever.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Just the wrong time of year to ask a Type A like myself to wait. Huge stock addict, and sports nut. And if CSHD, or the NFL doesn't get the ball rolling soon I am gonna spew beer suds all over the crowd!
This is like a two hour long half time... when the game is tied. I have been watching Baseball, and Golf to fuel my excitment levels lately!!! Baseball and Golf!
Posted by trade04 on :
lol u got a nervous itch? lol...
Posted by bigstocks on :
I was starting to think I was the oldest one here.
Posted by dog on :
C'mon 0.88! LOL
Posted by trade04 on :
Honestly this thread subject is so funny..everytime someone has to go look for it, they read this deperessing message imo
Posted by ruthie on :
Any guesses on what this will end at EOD today?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
We could always go to Australia and see what girls look like down under... lol ~
Posted by dog on :
0.87
Posted by Chartwalker on :
0.85
Posted by trade04 on :
come on !!!
Posted by ruthie on :
I'a a gonna guess .90
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well.... for a time passer ~ Which stocks is everyone following?
Mine are (which I can't buy into!) GSEG. # 1 pic. After a long tail down about 5 days ago it came alive again.
MOBL. 3 days up and running solid.
RSHN seems to be climbing slowly but climbing none the same after a huge selloff.
CHDT is up off of a .07 selloff up to about .10
Posted by ruthie on :
I'm a little too embarassed to mention mine because only a couple are doing okay.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: We could always go to Australia and see what girls look like down under... lol ~
Hey now! Posted by luvforever on :
Chart I own gseg and honestly I cant even remember what it used to be before LOL Thats how long Ive had that pos! It is still under and holding that was my worst pick of my life and I havent lost cause I havent sold LOL I have 30000 shares of it!!!! I believe it was insq wasnt it?
Posted by luvforever on :
Ahhh yes, on 7/19/05 I bought it and it was insq LOL I wanted to sell but I didn't why?? lol Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Chart I own gseg and honestly I cant even remember what it used to be before LOL Thats how long Ive had that pos! It is still under and holding that was my worst pick of my life and I havent lost cause I havent sold LOL I have 30000 shares of it!!!! I believe it was insq wasnt it?
Yes it was INSQ!
Well hang on cause it's going nuts again. Look at a chart and see what it did last time! Wow, that was something! Here.. http://stockcharts.com/gallery/?gseg Posted by luvforever on :
Im watching and hoping but I havent seen a lot of action UP! hopefully youare onto something...I had to sit on it because of that symbol change etc. then I said well I'll wait till the cows come home, but I think they are lost!! LOL could be a long time LOL Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Chart I own gseg and honestly I cant even remember what it used to be before LOL Thats how long Ive had that pos! It is still under and holding that was my worst pick of my life and I havent lost cause I havent sold LOL I have 30000 shares of it!!!! I believe it was insq wasnt it?
Yes it was INSQ!
Well hang on cause it's going nuts again. Look at a chart and see what it did last time! Wow, that was something! Here.. http://stockcharts.com/gallery/?gseg
oh nooo insq...lol
Posted by Chartwalker on :
That's a beautiful chart btw... Daily is awesome and the weekly is just starting! New trend looks like it's here. I've been waiting all this time and I'm missing it! ha ~ oh well...
Let me know how ya do! Good luck!!!
Posted by trade04 on :
companies should be limited to 2 symbols in their lifetime, because every company should have a second chance. but ive seen some that change time after time, and imo is very crooked and deceitful. not to mention it stinks
Posted by luvforever on :
I will if it goes over .0050 I will be happy and that'll be extra for this cshd! LOL thanks for the chart I havent even bothered with charts on it I just figure when I see double my money on scottrade I will sell...thats not too greedy is it? LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: companies should be limited to 2 symbols in their lifetime, because every company should have a second chance. but ive seen some that change time after time, and imo is very crooked and deceitful. not to mention it stinks
lol ! I was in JPHC, which went to PAIV and is now PAVC! All in like 3 months ~
Wanna laugh?... I STILL haven't gotten my certs yet!!
Wanna really laugh?... Their Restricted!!!
Posted by trade04 on :
ahahahahahahahahha....i laugh
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: I will if it goes over .0050 I will be happy and that'll be extra for this cshd! LOL thanks for the chart I havent even bothered with charts on it I just figure when I see double my money on scottrade I will sell...thats not too greedy is it? LOL
I would put that link in your favorites and watch it! Along with any others too ~
Otherwise you have no benchmark of where you're at. And yes I think that it'll double easy... That's why I'm sad! -sniff, sniff... :)jk ~
But I'm happy for you! So now I feel better Posted by luvforever on :
Chart you think thats bad I was in it too but i went to sell i got in at .0003 and tried to sell at .0008 but it sold at .0003 i think i had a fat finger I called scotrade but they never called back and i only lost the commision but something went wrong !!! Anyways I was glad I didnt get stuck with it, hope it works out for u on that. Trust me I was po'ed my friend even saw what happened we are sure I put in .0008 but who knows...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: ahahahahahahahahha....i laugh
-the best laugh is that it went into a sell off and I lost 75% so far (still up) -but not much ~
Win some lose some... Gotta roll with it ~ Posted by luvforever on :
Weird how we got into the same stocks?!! Are you following me? LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Weird how we got into the same stocks?!! Are you following me? LOL
Unless your name is RUFUS I'm not following you. LOL ~~
GL ~
Posted by luvforever on :
Am I leaving a bird seed trail?!!! LOL Posted by trade04 on :
can everyone RATE me a 5? thanks lol i got ganged up on long time ago in december my rating feels like a diluted penny stock gets nice buyers here and there but needs a lot to take it up!
Posted by trade04 on :
pretty stable around here might surprise us at close..
(or maybe not)
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Chart,
yeah I sold out of Moble at .19, and then the rest at .17 thinking I would migrate the funds over to FHAL thing for a couple of weeks and get back in under .13 before the Waz-Tempe numbers started rolling in in September.
Missed that boat last week when they had the lack luster 10-Q and have been watching it closely since. I will kick myself if it goes back over .20 before I get a chance to get in again.
Got a few others that I am watching but those are my main focus.
Posted by luvforever on :
chart pm me? Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Here's the chart. I flipped out this morn and plan on picking back up later with a much needed discount. I feel there will be ample time before anything dramatic happens but I refuse to stand by and watch. http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p66657086639 Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: chart pm me?
Are you flirting with chart? Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
....Are you flirting with chart? MAYBE LOL Posted by dog on :
It's a miniscule nothing of a mention... blah blah blah... no importance, yet a cause for vigorous discussion on iHub.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Money... I can't even look at a CSHD chart! lol ~
But for me it's about the deal, and I don't want to miss the price reset, so I'm just going to stay put. You must have done well huh?!
I know what I could have done flipping it if the majority of my funds where in a margin account instead of a cash account (I have 3).
Oh well....
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: It's a miniscule nothing of a mention... blah blah blah... no importance, yet a cause for vigorous discussion on iHub.
lol at "the cause for vigorous discussion " lmao
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: ....Are you flirting with chart? MAYBE LOL
Whoa ~
with the price of gas and where you live... NO! LOL ~~
Posted by milliam on :
Things are boring here, so here is some really old news, but I can't remember seeing it in the past (I'm pretty sure it was there though...it had to be with the DD that this board does). Anyways...the interesting stuff is the break down of the shares and the 7 album offer from Virgin. The OTCBB posting talk is interesting as well.
17.02.2006 23:08 Conversion Solutions With Current Events
KENNESAW, Ga., Feb. 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions, Inc. announces that during the SB-2 filing process the following current events have taken place.
CVSU, along with the Brittenum Brothers "Darrell and Terrell Brittenum," would like to announce the formation of a joint venture corporation called "Brittenum Brothers Entertainment Inc.," "BBEI" a (Georgia Corporation). The newly formed corporation has 100 million shares authorized and 60 million issued. The equity division of the corporation is 30 million shares to the Brittenum staff and 30 million shares to the current shareholders of CVSU.
The BBEI Corporation has received a 7-album offer from Virgin Records, Inc. and has entertained verbal offers from several major labels. The current Board of Directors of Brittenum Brothers Entertainment, Inc. has approval and has agreed to offer equity Percentages to the labels, along with the normal contracts, giving the major labels the ability to hedge their position upon closure.
The BBEI Joint Venture would also like to announce that Emanuel Seals; (Two time Grammy Nominee for his work with Mariah Carey and Usher) has agreed to produce two songs for the Corporation.
"The movement of the corporation during our filing process has been refreshing. You have to jump at an opportunity when offered or you will be left behind. Just ask the investors that missed out on Google and Microsoft," stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO.
CVSU along with Rocky Road Records Inc. "Rodney Hill" would also like to announce a Joint Venture agreement. The reorganized corporation has 100 million shares authorized and 60 million issued. The equity division of the corporation will be 30 million shares to the Rocky Road Records Inc. staff and 30 million shares to the current shareholders of CVSU.
"As COO of CVSU I am pleased to announce it is a pleasure to have added yet two additional joint ventures under the umbrella of CVSU, the Brittenum Brothers Entertainment Inc. 'BBEI' and Rocky Road Records Inc., which I believe to be yet another great assets to our shareholders at CVSU. BBEI and Rocky Road Records Inc. will be a force in the music entertainment market. I look forward to working with these companies in the future.
"Now that we are moving into our final posting stage for OVER THE COUNTER BULLETIN BOARD we have hired our publicists Arnie A. Epps to build market awareness for our company before the SB2 filings which is scheduled for February 23, 2006. After the filing I will begin our origination process for funding our joint venture companies," stated Ben F. Stanley, COO.
CVSU would also like to announce Mr. Arnie A. Epps as Publicist for the Corporation. Mr. Epps is a current Director for Clear Channel Radio.
The Board Of Directors Meeting is hereby called for Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 10:00 AM. The purpose for the meeting is to sign off on the final SB-2 filing to the SEC.
About Conversion Solutions, Inc.
CVSU is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CVSU's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CVSU and WHSC are headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us/.
Current Joint Ventures American International Smart Structure Current CVSU Subsidiaries Tserof Holdings Inc CVSU Coffee Shop Equine Solutions Inc Merger Subsidiaries Live Mortgage Free Federal Chamber of Commerce Center State Beverage LotteryFever.com InfinityOne Inc Amruss Group, LLC LoanShoppers.com
First Call Analyst: FCMN Contact: harris*songwi.us
Posted by RyanPBF on :
One of the old supporters of CSHD over at Ihub. Has not just lost faith and sold now he's saying that the SEC is involved now and are going to be coming around soon. thehavenots I believe his name is.
Posted by milliam on :
Looks like this is also on the cvsu website. Sorry to bring up old stuff...I'm just bored I guess.
Posted by trade04 on :
close near lod imo
Posted by Chartwalker on :
here comes my 0.85 -darn!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
have an appt to go to....
Later All Posted by luvforever on :
You didnt choke on that birdseeddid ya?!! LOL Posted by luvforever on :
oki call .99 for eod at 4pm LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Wow Milliam you just opened up a DD Pandorra box!!! I found Rocky Road records!!! And they got some talent.
Posted by trade04 on :
munchies are a killer if u have anxiety lol!
Posted by betting babe on :
the gossip column of the business world. interesting.
what makes it more interesting is that it is a republican right-wing newspaper. owned by Fox.
wow, so we're getting attention from Fox News? nice.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: NY Post article:
Just retraced my steps down Google on Rocky Road and Rodney Hill from your post above and I found an artist named Sammy Sam that had a song producer named Rodney Hill. Sure enough a bit of searching on Sammy Sam and I found this. Check out the second to last paragraph.
"Hitman Sammy Sam is not new to the hip-hop game. With over seven albums under his belt, the rapper has been creating a buzz throughout the south since the late 80's. His last independent album, One Way End, released on Atlanta's Rocky Road Records, caught the attention of Universal Records, who signed him to a record deal in March of 2003."
Thanks, I got a new path to follow.
Posted by dog on :
Posted by: bohogirl In reply to: Blue Sky Basin who wrote msg# 50337 Date:8/21/2006 3:33:16 PM Post #of 50380
I just got off the phone with SEC. The guy was really nice and took time looking for any info. Nothing he could find on any investigation of CSHD. He also wanted to know where I've heard the rumor; I could hear his blood pressure rise when I said IHUB. I will be forwarding him IPs and usernames of those who started/helped spread the rumor, as per his request.
Posted by trade04 on :
tax, whats the point of that?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: tax, whats the point of that?
Just a dried up sub trail... Do your DD.
Posted by Vin on :
Sure don't mean to be negative, and ok, I'm working more on emotions right now than my brain...but this is REALLY starting to drag out. I sure hope that Ruf's done HIS DD and knows what he's doing! I'm still in this long, and plan on holding even after reset, but day after day after day of waiting is starting to take it's toll.
Posted by trade04 on :
wonder if ********** is shorting this still...
Posted by Hustla on :
This sure stinks watching this, our eyeballs are gonna fall out their sockets by the time this decides to bounce again
Posted by Hustla on :
Got sensored there Tradeo4. Did you mention a certain brokerage firm? or a certain group???
Posted by trade04 on :
not TOO much information i can find on what this company does really. everything i read is so vague
Posted by ruthie on :
CRAP!!!!
Posted by dog on :
Emotional traders ..... reacting to "chicken little" faster than they are taking the time to check the facts. We open tomorrow... this thing will tank... but so what?
Posted by thecon00 on :
Look at it this way.
We had havenots on IHuB start a SEC investigation rumor and still finished at .84!!! I’m not so sure we tank tomorrow. We may be finding a level of support.
Posted by dog on :
Who the hell knows at this point.... swim in the sewage at yer own risk... don't know what the truth is anymore.....
WTF... I'm long anyways....the rumors are still gonna come.
Now thehavenots is saying it was just a joke...
You gotaa be F&%*& fidding me. People sold on that BS.
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I saw that the 'Havenots' from Ihub is starting a rumor that the SEC is investigating CSHD. While I am not currently a shareholder, I do know that the SEC will not tell ANYONE either way whether or not they are investigating a stock.
I have to call that guy either a liar, or he got some false information.
Havenots is risking getting sued by Rufus. Not a smart thing to PM people false or libelous information, lol.
Trust me, if this were really under investigation we would be back to .10 already because the MM's would know it, and Havenots would have found out way too late. Just my opinion. Good luck all hope you do make out here, IHub is the new RB at least for this one..
Posted by sceptor on :
This is one of the post-sec investigation pm's he is sending now.
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And this is what "thehavenots" just sent me as a PM.
"that was a joke, but I honestly now think there is a problem and I sold every share. "
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Now thehavenots is saying it was just a joke...
You gotaa be F&%*& fidding me. People sold on that BS.
Havenots is going to get sued if people really sold on that. People make stupid mistakes sometimes I guess !
Posted by dog on :
Unbelievable... this is such a joke. If this thing crashes... we'll all be bagholders in a split sec, nothing you could do. No one person will be privy to that info.
You either believe this is real or not.....
Posted by tyleemary on :
I hope it crashes so I can get more, than back up.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Thats pretty much about it now, Dog
Posted by portman on :
If this crashes on a false rumor...that's like free beer. Posted by portman on :
Just in case anyone is wondering....
Not selling...not even considering selling.
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: If this crashes on a false rumor...that's like free beer.
...or better yet a squirrel told you. Maybe one could plead insanity when the SEC comes calling.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I was under the impression that if the SEC was investigating they put a halt on it...immediately!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
I sold all this morning X .98 and .97. I plan on picking up more shares when its lower than it is now.
How does this happen? From that article: "Also, he pledged "a billion dollars in profits over the next 10 years" - an astonishing claim given that Conversion Solutions lost $758,000 on $143,000 in revenue for the quarter ended in March, according to SEC filings."
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
SEC investigating??? HA like anyone but the SEC knows that. People will listen to anything.
Who had the "chicken little" comment? No doubt about it... the sky is falling! At least we will all get a breath of fresh air. Just remember to grab hold of cloud 9 on the way back up.
I think I will wait till it starts going back up to scream... "To Da Moon!!!"
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: How does this happen? From that article: "Also, he pledged "a billion dollars in profits over the next 10 years" - an astonishing claim given that Conversion Solutions lost $758,000 on $143,000 in revenue for the quarter ended in March, according to SEC filings."
That is the article mixing up it's facts. This is what happens when you take Rufas's comments and match them up with Fronthaul numbers. nothing more nothing less.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Thank you TaxBack! Wasn't sure what the heck that was about.
Tax... it was thehavenots guy over on iHub.... started pm'n everybody that the "SEC is coming" , now said it was a joke... but he now believed there was a real problem and dumped his shares, blah, blah, blah
Some people listened and cashed out. SEC could be trouble for him now.
No worries for those investors though, as it looks like they will have a chance to recover tomorrow at a lower PPS.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I have been off looking into the new (at least what I consider new) Rocky Road Records information. And I can tell you now it is easier to find information on bonds than it is on Hip Hop Rap Producers from Atlanta.
All I got on Rodney Hill so far is he may be AKA "Chopper" who was on MTV but now is in jail. AKA Rocky "Ramone" who is co-owner of Rowdy records and father of R&B star Monica AKA "Brandy" 's love child who is AKA "Rodney Hill Jr." Or he was producer for Sammy Sam but now producer for the Rap band "Dem Franchise Boyz". Or he could be all three. It is freeking rediculous.
What I do know is someone big is banking all this crap... I mean rap... in Atlanta.
And there is some strange American Idol tie to Rowdy Records which I am looking into to see if it has anything to do with the Britem Brothers.
Anyway (oops) don't buy the Hype.
Posted by trade04 on :
stock is a technical sell now, tough to even being to speculate on tomorrows action
Posted by trade04 on :
Can anyone explain this to me?
On the ihub dd box (on the bottom in bold):" We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share. " this makes it sound like they are going to get ANOTHER symbol change and THEN reset to 15 or 25 or w/e...
and this:"Option (b)..This is the one that throws everybody off, and the majority of the people that call in look at it and say "Are you gonna pay me $15? You're buying the stock back from me at $15?", and they call it a "buyback." That's not what this option is. What this option is, is CVSU, has, the management, and the board, has this option available to them to buy you out, at the difference less what the current market is. If the current market is a dollar, we'll pay you fourteen bucks. Now that's an option. The problem is when you offer a buyout into the market, 90% of everyone is going to jump in there on it and say, Hey, I WANT IT, I WANT IT, I WANT IT. No...buyout, anyone, any shareholder, including CVSU and FHAL. All shareholders..anyone that holds a share in post, and pre, merger, which will be CVSU, and FHAL shareholders currently trading right now, are the shareholders it is talkin about.
The chances are, that's not going to happen, because 90% of the outstanding out, which will be 90 Million comes up and says "give me my stock. I want to cash out or option out." You're gonna bankrupt the company, and that's not what we're here about. "
i dont get it. is this speaking in terms of opening day of lets say a 20 dollar price, we wont be able to sell because well bk the company???
Posted by betting babe on :
tax, it's all tied together by Rufus's attorney.
i DD'd that to death a while ago. hard to find info, yes.
but, look up rufus's attorney, then look up britt bros attorney... itll all come together for you then.
i posted on it a while back.
~BB
here TaxBack, to save you the time...
the lawyer, the connection to the American Idol Brittenum brothers...
has anyone looked up the attorney Maurice Bennett? they were in atlanta rite?
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: And there is some strange American Idol tie to Rowdy Records which I am looking into to see if it has anything to do with the Britem Brothers.
Anyway (oops) don't buy the Hype.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Thanks BB this does tie alot of what I was reading together. Still looking into the Rodney Hill, Rocky, Monica, Rocky Road, Rowdy Records circle. Would be nice to find a Maurice connection here even if it was getting Choppa outta jail. LOL
TB
Posted by sandor butosi on :
check out PALTALK bud has got a room going for cshd
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Paltalk... I listened, sorry I did I thought it was boring, -at least what I heard.
I'm still LONG I know that! Catch you tomorrow bright and early! Peace ~
Posted by betting babe on :
Tax, Rufus said that Monica is Rocky's wife, i believe.
more specifically, he said ...you can look up rocky road records, rocky & his wife monica... when asked about us not finding any DD on the subs...
~BB
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
Does anyone think this reporter actually spoke with Mr Canady? If he did this stock just got alot stranger and alot more appealing. The Post is news reporting at its finest ... but I don't think they would make up a quote...
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: How does this happen? From that article: "Also, he pledged "a billion dollars in profits over the next 10 years" - an astonishing claim given that Conversion Solutions lost $758,000 on $143,000 in revenue for the quarter ended in March, according to SEC filings."
That is the article mixing up it's facts. This is what happens when you take Rufas's comments and match them up with Fronthaul numbers. nothing more nothing less.
In response to above....
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Money... I can't even look at a CSHD chart! lol ~
But for me it's about the deal, and I don't want to miss the price reset, so I'm just going to stay put. You must have done well huh?!
I know what I could have done flipping it if the majority of my funds where in a margin account instead of a cash account (I have 3).
Oh well....
Its about the deal for me too but I will now buy 600 "free" shares that I no longer have to worry about. If it tanks so be it, I'll just buy more for flipping again later. Protect your capital always! I too have cash accounts. Choicetrade, Scottrade, Fideity, and Sharebuilder without margin access.
Posted by dog on :
Anybody find any new relevant info that isn't straight bullsht that will waste further hours of my life as I wait impatiently for a 10K?
Posted by betting babe on :
nope.
you could do what i did and waste further hours of your life watching K-Fed's debut on youtube.com Posted by dog on :
Hey.... not the first time Rufus has referenced Google. Somehow I don't think any record deal... particularly with the marginal talent in this article (note: I do have 2 major record deals). Just food for thought. Yes I think this is worth way more than a dollar, and I'm holding tens of thousands at near a dollar PPS. Just ghettin a little sick of the game.
It's a shame K-Fed has anything to do with any kind of tube... the no talent hack. I'm just trying to protect my investment cuz I got some free cash tied up in this that could be better used on a week in Sonoma valley. I spend enough time doing business and this stock that is way outside my normal boundaries of fiscal patience. Still looks to be worth the risk. Unfortunately I have to wade through the inane dribble of the less than business minded. It's painful. This place is a sanctuary.... iHub is turning my brain to goo... and I don't appreciate it.
Sorry just venting... must be the McCallum talking.
Posted by trade04 on :
):" We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share. "
can someone explain this, what will the new symbol be?
Posted by mnvestor on :
Mnvestor...there are "other posters" here that use schwab...noone mentioned anything like this...interesting...but can anyone verify this?
Posted by portman on :
I have seen the fax...lots of phone numbers that should be pretty easy to nail down.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Portman...any idea why would schwab do this? Are they "short"? I can't quite figure out what they would gain...
Posted by portman on :
Makes zero sense to me right now 10...I had the link from paltalk... lost it... trying to get it again.
Posted by portman on :
http://s110.p hoto bu cket. com/albums/n119/n000b_101/?action=view& current=letter.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAn ch1
Posted by mnvestor on :
The letter validates naked short selling IMO, the person recieved it from fax, and is a trusted poster by many
Posted by 6digits on :
It's almost midnite, maybe there will be a PR. It won't be the first time. I have some free shares too , so I want to see this move. Hi babe
Posted by trade04 on :
this letter thing is very interesting, never heard of renting out ur shares! lol
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: ):" We will halt trading, on the day, at the completion of the merger. After the 10K is filed, we will halt trading, and come back out the next day under the new symbol, and at $15 a share. "
can someone explain this, what will the new symbol be?
Symbol change occurred ahead of the 10K...CSHD is it.
Posted by wallymac on :
At this point I don't see a reason to speculate on the Schwab Fax until it can be verified. That could easily have been manufactured or just a cut and paste. Let's verify before spending hours of discussion and pages of posts. There were numbers that can be called in the AM. Just a thought.
GLTA Wally
Posted by portman on :
Howie Kennedy appears in the 2001 White Paper on Securities Lending T+1 Subcommitee as the Schwab representative. and a cached page on google that seems to refer to a potential harassment lawsuit from 1999.
Posted by Hustla on :
Hmmm, I'm skeptical of that letter. WHy the hell would a high profile firm like Schwab need to borrow shares especially in a company thats going through all these changing phases towards a 10K and price reset???
It just looks like a weak and blatant attempt to pump CSHD to prevent it from tanking more. I don't buy it not for a second. Rufus you see the madness this delayed 10K is causing?????!!!!!!!!!!!! Come on already!!!
Posted by ajman on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: this letter thing is very interesting, never heard of renting out ur shares! lol
This is the way shorting (legal shorting)is supposed to be done. Shares are borrowed for someone to short and you get paid interest.
Posted by trade04 on :
ihub becoming a whirlpool of growing negative sentiment. this shorting thing is starting to fire everyone up could be a good thing just as much as a bad...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Tax, Rufus said that Monica is Rocky's wife, i believe.
more specifically, he said ...you can look up rocky road records, rocky & his wife monica... when asked about us not finding any DD on the subs...
~BB
Yes this is my understanding but I missed the Monica reference. My findings support this as well, just wanted to make sure I was looking at the right Rodney Hill.
My deduction is that Monica is a very smart business woman, married to a businessman/record producer Rodney Hill.
Here is a link regarding the couple. http://cakeandice-cream.b l o g s p o t.com/2005/10/where-is-monica.html
Posted by Hustla on :
IHUB is the cesspool of all stockboards. Wouldn't post there if my last shares depended on it.
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: At this point I don't see a reason to speculate on the Schwab Fax until it can be verified. That could easily have been manufactured or just a cut and paste. Let's verify before spending hours of discussion and pages of posts. There were numbers that can be called in the AM. Just a thought.
GLTA Wally
Verified? Wally not to insult you but the fax has names and numbers on it, would someone really concoct such a letter to "pump" this stock, would have to be really naive, dumb, or clueless to do that. IMO, the letter is real, calling is a good idea though.
Posted by trade04 on :
hustla you in this one? i'm not but soon will
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: hustla you in this one? i'm not but soon will
I'm definitely in. I bought 4K this morning at .83, flipped at .92 and bought back at .84 EOD. Want to see this baby go up tomorrow but somehow it looks like it might open the other way
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Possible fit... "?" -did the naked shorts came from when CSHD was trading and none of us had our certs yet? If the float was gone where did these millions of shares that were traded come from?????
This is GOOD news to us!!!!! They do have to BUY to cover right?... Posted by trade04 on :
yeah, seems that way....This is a pure waiting play imo
Posted by trade04 on :
still here...http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
so it's probably the truth
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
One last Monica link... from you tube. You think Rufas paid for this video? And at one point there is a guy throwing around stacks of cash... Is that my money? LOL
Her comeback looks interesting... http://www.y o u t u b e.com/watch?v=zmabCI5az18
Posted by Chartwalker on :
This is the most twisted play that I've EVER bought into! ....and I LOVE IT!!!
Now Rufus don't make me hate it! ha ~ How about at LEAST a PR Rufie baby....
ok, this time I am going to bed!! lol ~ Catch up in the morning with ya peeps...
Posted by Hustla on :
The waiting is the hard part here because the bottom line is, we're all like sitting ducks if we're holding long that is. And Rufus is the only one that knows for sure what will happen. I don't know him from jack squat so nothing he says holds any merit to me until I see that 10K. My mother always said never trust a stranger that says "Trust me" and I heard him say trust me in one of those interviews he did.
10K Rufus 10K!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
...so trust in the bond that they just posted ~
That isn't hot air, it's fact!
Posted by trade04 on :
i wish i could see somewhere where FHAL issued their last 10k to get an idea of the time frame u know?
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: At this point I don't see a reason to speculate on the Schwab Fax until it can be verified. That could easily have been manufactured or just a cut and paste. Let's verify before spending hours of discussion and pages of posts. There were numbers that can be called in the AM. Just a thought.
GLTA Wally
Verified? Wally not to insult you but the fax has names and numbers on it, would someone really concoct such a letter to "pump" this stock, would have to be really naive, dumb, or clueless to do that. IMO, the letter is real, calling is a good idea though.
The problem I have is that it's second hand information at best. Not saying that it isn't real but just to be cautious and verify before buying into it.
GLTA Wally
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I think if we think anymore it's going to hurt!
Let's give schwab a call tomorrow with those #'s on that fax and see if that is true, if it is then sit back and smile cause Rufus is really putting the screws to the shorts then some how...
I mean come on... Has anyone EVER seen a note like that before?!!
That HAS TO be checked out! -First thing!! --first thing tomorrow! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I need to take the dog out first thing. How about second?
Posted by trade04 on :
if theyt are shorting this (and rufus isnt invovled) they are idiots, at an y moment 10k could be released and they will have an automatic loss...i dont get it....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
deal... We'll get there man.... MO
Posted by djg7 on :
I just got home. I'm dizzy from reading all the posts this evening. It should be very interesting to see what transpires tomorrow. I have never seen a stock which takes you on such a roller coaster ride but you have admit it isn't boring around here. Great entertainment. Still holding CSHD and SLJB.
GLTA
Posted by AshyToClassy on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I think if we think anymore it's going to hurt!
Let's give schwab a call tomorrow with those #'s on that fax and see if that is true, if it is then sit back and smile cause Rufus is really putting the screws to the shorts then some how...
I mean come on... Has anyone EVER seen a note like that before?!!
That HAS TO be checked out! -First thing!! --first thing tomorrow!
I agree, Schwab will be flooded with calls tomorrow about the authenticity of this letter. If true HoraaaaY!!!
If false, A big F U!! to the person who fabricated it.
Posted by dog on :
Hehe.... told ya it'd be crazy this week... what is truth anymore? I'm beginning not to care about this cliff hanger... 10k10k10k
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
So why does everyone say this has to be checked out... tommorow... I just checked it out. Try calling the 800 number, you'll get automated service becasue that part of their company is closed just like the specialists at my etrade are closed. So I went to the Charles Schwab website and called their main number and pressed 2 as if I were an investor with them and I got through to customer service. He could not verify the accual security of CSHD as being a part of this but he said that this is certianly something they do. I discribed the letter to him and he seemed very confident that is was legit. This Howie that is on the letter is one of their bigwig and handles this end of buisness. The phone numbers on the letter were legit numbers for this type of letter. Seems legit to the Schwab guy and to me. Schwab wants to borrow shares of CSHD (while paying a prmium for them) from their own shareholders. It seems so that they can trade more than they have certified. The logical answer is that there are short sellers that want to use Schwab and so they are going about it like this. Seems like some shorts are wanting to dig their grave deeper. I wouldn't even think of shorting this. Me, I could only lose so much. But Shorty... I guess ya'll got some balls... those balls will get crushed come Rufi 10K time! GLTA Ima
Posted by thecon00 on :
timlaniryankristen Member
Rate Member posted August 21, 2006 20:59August 21, 2006 20:59 ________________________________________ Does anyone think this reporter actually spoke with Mr Canady? If he did this stock just got alot stranger and alot more appealing. The Post is news reporting at its finest ... but I don't think they would make up a quote...
From article, “Last week, Harris - who has prom ised that shares, trading at near a buck, could soon be worth $15 - was touting that the company had access to more than $500 million in capital from a se cretive Atlanta-based group called the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, reports The Post's Roddy Boyd. Why the investment? Because Conversion Solutions approached the group with a United Nations- backed plan by which "many lives will be saved," according to Ste phen Canaday, a trustee at the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation. “
NOW I SEE YOU’RE POINT!!! If this is a real quote then Stephten Canaday, who was already authenticated as co-founder of the newest bond/financing, is not only showing support to RPH but also hinting at Gov. Contracts which could help the UN. Doesn’t the UN have a small military force also? Perhaps they are adding a small air force from Georgia arrow space?
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: So why does everyone say this has to be checked out... tommorow... I just checked it out. Try calling the 800 number, you'll get automated service becasue that part of their company is closed just like the specialists at my etrade are closed. So I went to the Charles Schwab website and called their main number and pressed 2 as if I were an investor with them and I got through to customer service. He could not verify the accual security of CSHD as being a part of this but he said that this is certianly something they do. I discribed the letter to him and he seemed very confident that is was legit. This Howie that is on the letter is one of their bigwig and handles this end of buisness. The phone numbers on the letter were legit numbers for this type of letter. Seems legit to the Schwab guy and to me. Schwab wants to borrow shares of CSHD (while paying a prmium for them) from their own shareholders. It seems so that they can trade more than they have certified. The logical answer is that there are short sellers that want to use Schwab and so they are going about it like this. Seems like some shorts are wanting to dig their grave deeper. I wouldn't even think of shorting this. Me, I could only lose so much. But Shorty... I guess ya'll got some balls... those balls will get crushed come Rufi 10K time! GLTA Ima
Hey I resposted this on iHub...absolutely no comment. They are much more content to insult eachother, rather than dissect info that people obtain by gettin up off their ass and actually doing DD.
Nice work.... still not sure what to make of it...
Posted by thecon00 on :
the schwab letter was not the first time I heard of this however. I think on IHub at least two other times people have said they got calls from their brokers for a similar arrangement in the last few weeks.
Posted by dog on :
I heard it too, but no one got further info about it...
Posted by thecon00 on :
Anyone have the link to the failure to deliver # of days outstanding? It would continue to confirm this.
Posted by dinner42 on :
the way information flows is funny gang. Schwab does what they do and we sit and speculate and churn. Hope this thing gets some clarification tomorrow, it would be easy to do. Somebody rattle the tree till the fruit falls...and the truth will set us all free..
Posted by betting babe on :
hi diggy, im trying to see why everyone's postin so late and im getting PMs from newbies...
~BB
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: It's almost midnite, maybe there will be a PR. It won't be the first time. I have some free shares too , so I want to see this move. Hi babe
Posted by dog on :
I like to assess situations in the simplest sense. I have found that they make the most plausible ideas.
I think that Scwab sees good business and money to be made by selling to shorties.
When you hear hoof beats, think horses...... not zebras.
Posted by dog on :
damn... big money education and I still can't type. Should have taken typing in high school instead of those useless A.P. classes.
"Schwab"
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
timlaniryankristen Member
Rate Member posted August 21, 2006 20:59August 21, 2006 20:59 ________________________________________ Does anyone think this reporter actually spoke with Mr Canady? If he did this stock just got alot stranger and alot more appealing. The Post is news reporting at its finest ... but I don't think they would make up a quote...
From article, “Last week, Harris - who has prom ised that shares, trading at near a buck, could soon be worth $15 - was touting that the company had access to more than $500 million in capital from a se cretive Atlanta-based group called the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, reports The Post's Roddy Boyd. Why the investment? Because Conversion Solutions approached the group with a United Nations- backed plan by which "many lives will be saved," according to Ste phen Canaday, a trustee at the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation. “
NOW I SEE YOU’RE POINT!!! If this is a real quote then Stephten Canaday, who was already authenticated as co-founder of the newest bond/financing, is not only showing support to RPH but also hinting at Gov. Contracts which could help the UN. Doesn’t the UN have a small military force also? Perhaps they are adding a small air force from Georgia arrow space?
If this is true this also verifies a link between the new bond and CSHD, if anyone had doubts about that...I also like the "National Security" part Posted by wallymac on :
Well it is a bit difficult to take Roddy Boyd's work seriously. I may have never worked for a big city newspaper but even in writing for the high school newspaper many many moons ago, it was a requirement to correctly spell the name of the person being quoted.
The name is Steven O. Canady not Stephan Canaday.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning All ~
Hope you are feeling better now about all the BS that was flying yesterday, and I hope that Fax info holds out, did anyone confirm what Imapoor... said about calling?
[not a knock on you, just have to dot every I]
well, let the games begin!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Goodmorning everyone. This Schwabb thing if true could be huge.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Goodmorning everyone. This Schwabb thing if true could be huge.
Agreed! That could save the day for people worried about price...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
very quiet in here.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: i wish i could see somewhere where FHAL issued their last 10k to get an idea of the time frame u know?
Trade...I searched on the SEC . gov website (see above link) last evening using the company name Furia Organization Inc (the company name that has been associated with FHAL) and found a listing of SEC filings, of which the first 15 items are filings in 2006. After going down a couple of levels into each document, I could retrieve a date and time stamp that seems to indicate a "accepted" submission time to the SEC.
Of these fifteen documents, nine (9) were submitted after 4:00 PM, two (2) were submitted between 3:00 PM - 4:00 PM, and four (4) were submitted between 8:00 AM - 3:00 PM. It seems that the last 10K filed by Furia was in October 2005 and it was time stamped 17:33:50. (this filing is not included in the 15 documents I cited above.)The latest four (4) documents (all 8K's)were filed after 4:00 PM. This data suggest to me that the probablity is that the much anticipated 10K might be filed after the close of the market. Thats all I am writing for now and its JMHO. As always, rely on your own DD before making any judgements.
Note: if you use CSHD or FHAL in the SEC site's search, no matches are found. I had to use the exact name "furia organization inc" with no periods or commas.
Hope that helps you.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
For me it's NOT about the price.. But here you go:
Found this on the pinksheet dot com site. Looks like another site is watching CSHD now. The more eyes the better. The news is a rehash of the RNC award but still...
Stock Market Alerts LLC: Primetime Stocks to Watch! August 22, 2006
Miami, FLA., Aug 22, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Stock Market Alert's performance stock list includes: Winning Brands Corporation (OTC: WNBD), Tricell, Inc. (OTCBB: TCLL), Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTCBB: CSHD), Solomon Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB: SOLM), AVI BioPharma, Inc. (NASDAQ: AVII). Winning Brands Corporation (OTC: WNBD) released news that should have the attention of speculative investors this morning. Yesterday after the stock markets closed, the company issued a press release announcing that that Home Hardware, Canada's largest hardware, lumber and building materials retailer, has awarded a new listing to Winning Colours Multi-Cleaner's new 4 oz (125ml) Travel Size version.
This news may get the attention of traders. With over 1,000 banner stores across Canada, the listing will provide the Company's first Winning Colours Multi-Cleaner line extension with immediate coast-to-coast coverage for an effective ramp-up. Home Hardware was first off the starting line with this new SKU because of its positive experience with the full sized Winning Colours product -- it was the first national retailer to carry the original 32 oz size. According to the press release, Winning Brands estimates the North American market for Winning Colours Multi-Cleaner to be $100 million annually across its eventual SKU range.
This is a stock for speculative investors to watch! Winning Brands Corporation CEO Eric Lehner points out the importance of working with large groups of independent stores. "The reach into smaller communities provided by Home Hardware complements our presence in large cities for a good mix," says Lehner. "To become a national brand you need to offer the product where people live, with knowledgeable sales staff to answer their questions face-to-face when necessary," he added.
In the past several days, Winning Brands has made several announcements, including:
* Winning Colours Multi-Cleaner brand was scheduled to make its U.S. debut on QVC this pasted Friday during the "Household Helpers" program. Previously, Winning Brands Corporation reported the commencement of shipment of its products to other markets outside North America, notably in Europe, China and India, giving the company effective representation on three continents beginning in the third quarter 2006.
* The company's Solvent Free Solutions partnership with Miele USA has been awarded a new contract to outfit Naples, Florida Diamond Cleaners with a professional garment care technology that may rescue a multi-billion dollar industry facing new regulations. The new system replaces hazardous chemicals still used by conventional Dry Cleaners, whose old Perchloroethylene solvent days may be numbered.
* Winning Colours Multi-Cleaner, has been approved for distribution through PRO Group, Inc. -- America's largest independent hardlines group representing 40 member distributors with 162 warehouses that service approximately 30,000 retailers.
Winning Colours Multi-Cleaner is an advanced clean-up liquid for consumers and industry that is as strong as a solvent but gentle as soap. The product has been gaining the attention of consumers and businesses recently because of its ability to deliver 1,000 cleaning uses in one convenient solution while being kind to skin and the environment. The new 4 oz size is so convenient for the pocket, purse or auto that it is expected to eventually extend the brand's reach far beyond the home improvement sector. The Company anticipates this to include convenience stores, gasoline stations and other impulse points of sale requiring a quick and safe multi-stain removing solution.
Other Stocks of interest yesterday were:
Tricell, Inc. (OTCBB: TCLL) up 5% on 4.4 million shares traded.
Tricell Inc. was established in 1999 as a distributor of mobile phones and related accessories to the wholesale markets in the UK, Europe, Middle East and Asia. Tricell, Inc. recently announced revenue for the first six months of $740.9 million. This compares to $276.8 million in revenue for the same period in 2005. Profit for first half of 2006 was $6,776,389, as compared to a net loss of $162,038 for the same period in 2005. The increase in revenue is the result of our expanded trading operations, which since June 30, 2005, includes the operations of our wholly owned subsidiary, Ace Telecom. Tricell's increased profit is the result of both our expanded operations, our reduced cost of capital, and a one time gain of $3,620,523 realized on net liabilities written off from liquidated subsidiaries.
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTCBB: CSHD) down 15.1% on 2.9 million shares traded. CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp recently announced that our Chief Executive Officer, Rufus Paul Harris was the recipient of the 2006 Georgia Republican of the Year Award from the Business Advisory Counsel (BAC) a project of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRCC).
Solomon Technologies, Inc. (OTCBB: SOLM) up 29.5% on 1.6 million shares traded.
Solomon Technologies, Inc. develop, licenses, manufactures and sells electric power drive systems, including those incorporating hybrid and regenerative technologies incorporating Solomon's patented Electric Wheel(tm) and Electric Transaxle(tm), for marine, commercial, automotive, hybrid and all electric vehicle applications. Solomon Technologies, Inc. recently announced that it has completed its acquisition of Technipower LLC, a Danbury, Connecticut-based manufacturer of power supplies and related equipment for the defense, aerospace and commercial sectors. Technipower provides high value added, precision, direct current power supplies and power supply systems for applications where high reliability and ruggedness are critical. Technipower's expertise in magnetics, high density circuit design and systems engineering is well established.
AVI BioPharma, Inc. (NASDAQ: AVII) up 8.4% on 1.4 million shares traded.
AVI BioPharma develops therapeutic products for the treatment of life-threatening diseases using third-generation NEUGENE antisense drugs. AVI BioPharma, Inc. recently announced the publication of positive preclinical results from a new class of antisense-based antibiotics, called NeuBiotics. The article, titled "Gene-Specific Effects of Antisense Phosphorodiamidate Morpholino Oligomer-Peptide Conjugates on Escherichia coli and Salmonella enterica Serovar Typhimurium in Pure Culture and in Tissue Culture," appears in the August issue of the journal Antimicrobial Agents and Chemotherapy, Vol. 50, No. 8, p. 2789-2796. AVI research scientists Bruce Geller, Ph.D., and Lucas Tilley authored the paper.
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Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: This data suggest to me that the probablity is that the much anticipated 10K might be filed after the close of the market.
IMO this is the way it will result as well. Rufus made it sound as tho he didn't even want to halt trading to open at 15 or 23.... or whatever it may be now. so, IMO, we close... see the 10k, and that following morning see the price reset. I predict it occurs on a friday... Then that next monday we open. But, all speculation and opinions...
Posted by Schwabie on :
Wow, so much speculation and no facts. I believe in the tooth fairy too. Can I post here?
In regards to the so called fax. It means nothing. Brokerage companies send out thousands of these to companies via e-mail and so forth. It is legal. It means nothing. Most companies say no. Prove they said yes?
Posted by vinnie1 on :
all bs going to end up like the titanic
Posted by portman on :
Guys (Schawbie and vinnie1)...not nearly the speculation here as on other boards. Most is just common chit chat when speculation is in it.
Before you come an wack the bee hive you might want to engage the group rather than admonish some one's effort to provide the group with some nice DD.
Posted by Schwabie on :
What DD? Speculation on when its going to happen?
Fax? I'm reporting it as leaked information.
Posted by trade04 on :
Thanks Bucky. looks like october yeh, but since this 10k is being released as soon as merger completes it just keeps unbalancing the equation lol
quote:Originally posted by vinnie1: all bs going to end up like the titanic
lol
Posted by dog on :
Let's keep it simple. Take a breath. It's another day on CSHD, and it's gonna be bumpy.
That fax is likely real with multiple Scwab accounts now solicited for their shares to be borrowed.
They are trying to make money by selling to shorts.... that is true. However it is a nother stretch to think that Schwab themselves are caught in a short position. These institutions have had plenty of time to make up their short position.
I am not acting like we have anybody over a barrel. Just makes it all the more painful and confusing as the MM's hammer down the PPS.
Only a 10K will stop this madness.
Posted by trade04 on :
lets speculate on what will happen if cshd opens * 25....I just dont see anyone buying and i seee everyone selling...people disagree with me saying of course there will be buying...but i dont see how there could be enough to offset the sellers
Posted by Schwabie on :
Let's speculate if there is a name change and then it opens at 50 cents?
Posted by dog on :
Some early confirmation... check it out yourself if you want.
Posted by: Ladeytrader In reply to: None Date:8/22/2006 8:41:22 AM Post #of 51261
well well well..........i just got off the phone with Mr. Kennedy and this letter is very legit.....if you dail the 1-800-355-2448...ask for him...you'll be glad to tell you about the shares lending program..........it appears that there are brokers out there that are short and need shares ....what a surprize.....
Posted by Vin on :
E-Trader's out there...anyone else's CSHD's streaming quote numbers off? For some reason, mine's showing .99 as a previous close. Most of my others are off also. Went to a different computer to make sure it wasn't a cache issue or something, but same result. Just wondering.
Thanks.
Posted by Schwabie on :
Better yet lets speculate it opens at $25.00 like you all want and everyone tries to sell and it drops to $0.75 ? Not far fetched is it?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: lets speculate on what will happen if cshd opens * 25....I just dont see anyone buying and i seee everyone selling...people disagree with me saying of course there will be buying...but i dont see how there could be enough to offset the sellers
I see selling...but Rufas claims to have "big investors" coming in at that time...I see the PPS dropping like crazy...BUT...If everything comes to fruit thw way Rufas claims...I see it settling and then actually rising...time will tell...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: lets speculate on what will happen if cshd opens * 25....I just dont see anyone buying and i seee everyone selling...people disagree with me saying of course there will be buying...but i dont see how there could be enough to offset the sellers
I see selling...but Rufas claims to have "big investors" coming in at that time...I see the PPS dropping like crazy...BUT...If everything comes to fruit thw way Rufas claims...I see it settling and then actually rising...time will tell...
I wasn't aware of that information, buyers coming in? the stock will still be under otc it wont be nasdaq. I don't see how this could be real, but like you said, time will tell!
ps: anyone speak with IR lately? what were you told as to the release date of the 10k?
Posted by djg7 on :
L2s
Bid 2 x .83 1 x .815 2 x .81
Ask 2 x .835 1 x .84 1 x .845
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: Better yet lets speculate it opens at $25.00 like you all want and everyone tries to sell and it drops to $0.75 ? Not far fetched is it?
It's worth at least a buck with the current financial info. If it does I hold it until I make money... and I will be making money my friend.
Novel concept eh?.. investing in a stock.
My money, my gamble, my DD, my patience is thin on people spouting the "what if this happens?" blah blah blah. Like the rest of life.... you make your play at that time the best you can.
You are not going to come up with any possible scenario that I haven't thought about to this point.... and I'm still invested.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: E-Trader's out there...anyone else's CSHD's streaming quote numbers off? For some reason, mine's showing .99 as a previous close. Most of my others are off also. Went to a different computer to make sure it wasn't a cache issue or something, but same result. Just wondering.
Thanks.
mines working fine
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: lets speculate on what will happen if cshd opens * 25....I just dont see anyone buying and i seee everyone selling...people disagree with me saying of course there will be buying...but i dont see how there could be enough to offset the sellers
I see selling...but Rufas claims to have "big investors" coming in at that time...I see the PPS dropping like crazy...BUT...If everything comes to fruit thw way Rufas claims...I see it settling and then actually rising...time will tell...
I think this is why Rufus isn't going to file the 10k just yet, I think he wants shareholders to realize what they have... -hence the parade of PR's that will now happen. MO
And as far as buyers, there are traders who only play IPO's.. Heck Google (which Rufus likened to CSHD) opened I believe for $100 a share and then doubled in one day didn't it?!!
Now if they keep nailing down deals like they just posted, what trader wouldn't buy at $15?? And institutional buyers buy by the truckload! Go to Investorsbusinessdaily dot com and on their front page they LIST what the Big Boys are buying and selling.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Scottrade is showing same numbers from yesterday.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: lets speculate on what will happen if cshd opens * 25....I just dont see anyone buying and i seee everyone selling...people disagree with me saying of course there will be buying...but i dont see how there could be enough to offset the sellers
I see selling...but Rufas claims to have "big investors" coming in at that time...I see the PPS dropping like crazy...BUT...If everything comes to fruit thw way Rufas claims...I see it settling and then actually rising...time will tell...
I wasn't aware of that information, buyers coming in? the stock will still be under otc it wont be nasdaq. I don't see how this could be real, but like you said, time will tell!
ps: anyone speak with IR lately? what were you told as to the release date of the 10k?
It's some of the oldest information out there. Remember this is the 3rd thread of compiled DD for this stock. Most people on this forum have been here a long time.
Anyone here to just rip the other posters has every right not to read the comments.
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: E-Trader's out there...anyone else's CSHD's streaming quote numbers off? For some reason, mine's showing .99 as a previous close. Most of my others are off also. Went to a different computer to make sure it wasn't a cache issue or something, but same result. Just wondering.
Thanks.
Mine is showing the same as yours Vin.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: Better yet lets speculate it opens at $25.00 like you all want and everyone tries to sell and it drops to $0.75 ? Not far fetched is it?
Wow i never thought of that!!
Come on, this is a very old discussion. Whats the purpose of your question or speculation or whatever it is? We only know what we have been told. If there arent plans in place to keep the pps up then yes, it will drop. Of course this is the same for EVERY stock at ANY price but since we dont have a 10k yet we dont know if this stock will hold at any price.
Posted by Vin on :
"mines working fine"
Damn, not sure why my numbers are off. I've closed down, restarted a couple of times now and things still off. Hopefully things will update at 8:30. I've never seen this before so I was kinda hoping others were seeing the same problem...guess not. It sucks to be Vin! Posted by Schwabie on :
I'm not giving any real facts... I'm just speculating like everybody else... see my point? Anyone can speculate. It means nothing.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: "mines working fine"
Damn, not sure why my numbers are off. I've closed down, restarted a couple of times now and things still off. Hopefully things will update at 8:30. I've never seen this before so I was kinda hoping others were seeing the same problem...guess not. It sucks to be Vin!
My Etrade is stuck at .99 and .835 in ask as well
Posted by Vin on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by Vin: "mines working fine"
Damn, not sure why my numbers are off. I've closed down, restarted a couple of times now and things still off. Hopefully things will update at 8:30. I've never seen this before so I was kinda hoping others were seeing the same problem...guess not. It sucks to be Vin!
My Etrade is stuck at .99 and .835 in ask as well
Ok, then at least it's not me. I was going crazy trying to figure out what the heck was going on. Balance is restored!
Posted by djg7 on :
My Power Etrade is working fine.
Posted by Schwabie on :
Personal attack. Reporting.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Good morning everyone....I see bashers everywhere! lol
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Wow, i had my first post deleted. Fortunately i dont have a lot to say about the nonsense that is taking place.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Gap is now filled.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
wow this is sucking so far 6min and down .135
Posted by Vin on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Wow, i had my first post deleted. Fortunately i dont have a lot to say about the nonsense that is taking place.
...it was the expression on your face that told it all!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
last time we had a big retrace didn't we run up pretty hard.
Posted by Schwabie on :
I am not trying to bash this stock or anyone. I just keep it real. Anyone can speculate. Facts are DD. Just don't do personal attacks. Posts deleted. I am in this stock too... just not that big in it.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ive been so busy at work i havent been able to keep up here. Its almost like a whole new group of people this week. I think those of us that have been here a while have grown tired of DD and speculation. We need something to chew on!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Just got filled at .71...easiest fill I have ever had on a stock...
Posted by luvforever on :
Goood mooorning to you all! LOL Looks like news might hit today? I hope so LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: For me it's NOT about the price.. But here you go:
gaps: up Aug-18-2006 0.73 to 0.85 up Aug-09-2006 to 1.05
down Aug-16-2006 0.865 to 0.845 down Aug-15-2006 1.04 to 1.035
Fib support at .71 held!!
Posted by luvforever on :
Well I am all for the bullish trend! LOL Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Aww shucks, i had an order in for .70 and it bounced off it!! Can we work it back down one more time before climbing.....for me? Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Good morning... Looks like the bashers are out in full force and have successfully scared a bunch of longs out of their shares.
Still got a vice grip on my slips.
What is this? Did it bounce off .71 like a little rubber ball. Come now bashers you can do better than that. Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Tax... .71 works for me...we don't need to go back down there...LOL...well OK..let it bounce about 30%...and then we can go back down there...
Posted by Sandusky on :
Hey Schwab, really I didn't mean harm. I think most of us are just growing weary of the same "speculations" being brought up repeatedly. If you've followed the thread you know that there aren't many scenarios that haven't been beaten to a bloody pulp. Best of luck...
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: I am not trying to bash this stock or anyone. I just keep it real. Anyone can speculate. Facts are DD. Just don't do personal attacks. Posts deleted. I am in this stock too... just not that big in it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
Posted by Schwabie on :
Apology accepted. I am in this stock too. I just don't like all the speculation here. Facts are better.
Posted by luvforever on :
Wish I had more $!!!!! LOL ;(
Posted by SherriT on :
I would just as soon it dropped to the next support level so I got more cheap shares Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: I would just as soon it dropped to the next support level so I got more cheap shares
Just wait for the next big rumor! lol ~~
Posted by luvforever on :
ok next rumor....Did ya hear?...... lmao Posted by SherriT on :
You guys are a riot! Maybe I should hang out at IHUB so I'll know when the bashista are out in force...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Schwabie: Apology accepted. I am in this stock too. I just don't like all the speculation here. Facts are better.
Go hang out on the SEC.gov web site. As far as I know they are the web site I know that actively enforces their "No Speculation" rule. You can't just get mad because emotion gets involved.
This thread is and always has been about the DD. Go back and read.
Posted by Schwabie on :
Upticking nicely Posted by luvforever on :
Ok q...is it true that is legal to borrow from an ira? What is the purpose? Is it to short or to cover shorts? I really don't understand...
Posted by trade04 on :
level 2 looking reallly nice
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Honestly, what doesn't make sense about it? Those of us who believe Rufus is on the up and up are willing to take a chance on this. Personally, I'm not gambling anything I cannot afford to lose. If you're in a situation where you cannot afford to lose your investment, then yes, flip away. Protect your capital for sure. A lot of us are just enjoying the ride though. Posted by trade04 on :
yea i already dd'd the wording long ago and its cut and dry. you bought fhal, or cshd you hold till 10k u get to be rich...
that deosnt mean trading it wont make you money either though
Posted by KittyKatGiRL on :
quote:Originally posted by Synastar:
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Honestly, what doesn't make sense about it? Those of us who believe Rufus is on the up and up are willing to take a chance on this. Personally, I'm not gambling anything I cannot afford to lose. If you're in a situation where you cannot afford to lose your investment, then yes, flip away. Protect your capital for sure. A lot of us are just enjoying the ride though.
I did not say anything negative....just the facts: where I got out at .98 and what my plan was afterwards. If you found that at all offensive then you are in love with the stock, and have violated the great piece of advice:
"Never, no matter how promising, fall in love with a stock"
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
"Never, no matter how promising, fall in love with a stock" [/QB]
Actually, it's closer to lust. Posted by vinnie1 on :
Hmmmmmmmmm i must be the only idiot on this board keeping my money in the bank.NOTTTTTTTTTTTT LOL
Posted by thecon00 on :
I think this is why Rufus isn't going to file the 10k just yet, I think he wants shareholders to realize what they have... -hence the parade of PR's that will now happen. MO
And as far as buyers, there are traders who only play IPO's.. Heck Google (which Rufus likened to CSHD) opened I believe for $100 a share and then doubled in one day didn't it?!!
Now if they keep nailing down deals like they just posted, what trader wouldn't buy at $15?? And institutional buyers buy by the truckload! Go to Investorsbusinessdaily dot com and on their front page they LIST what the Big Boys are buying and selling.
TAX-
I traded google on opening day. IPO was a tues. you could have gotten it for $85. First trading day was a thurs. it opened at $95. EOD frist day $102 w a high of $104. I do think it got to $120 in the first few days trading but even day twos high was only like $108.
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK...everyone...settle down...I know the wait is getting rough..but I am seeing posters that aren't bashing post opinions and "goodluck" wishes and peeps are "jumping" on them...relax... You don't always need to defend your choices...IMO
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by KittyKatGiRL: GL to all in this..... I've been out since .98, and I may be out forever.
Good for you... Hope you made a boat load. If not sorry better luck next time more shares for us.
I am happy holding through this imaginary storm.
That....doesn't make any sense....Oh well, Like I said...good luck
Sure it does... you said you sold out at .98... I said good for you. Many holding this stock got in as early as 0.10 to 0.20 so the chance that you made some money is very possible.
More shares for us is that I and many others here are still buying up cheap shares and holding until the 10K and reset.
Imaginary storm is a direct analogy to this mornings sell-off which we have seen several times here over the past few weeks. Someone starts a bad rumor to scare people out of their shares and the rumor turns out to be "imaginary" or false.
Sorry if you had any problems comprehending, but for you to waste your time posting on a public message board that you have sold your position and will never buy-in again. With out giving one additional reason as to why you are "done" is border-line misleading. Like you have some sort of regret and we should too.
Personally, when I sell out of a stock because I have made my money, or (hopefully not... knock on wood) lost my money. I usually go on to start researching and investgating my next investment. I definitely do not hang myself on the wall of the old stocks message board notifying everyone of my decision, as if I am hoping someone will care enough to sell their position as well to make me feel better.
What really did you hope to accomplish by telling us you are out and will never buy CSHD again. A sticker? Sympathy? Praise? am I getting close? If all you want is someone to ask you why you made such a life defining decision... well I am all ears. Please tell me what made you finally decide to sell, share with me? If it is that important I would like to know so I can go check it out for myself (If this thread has not already done so.)
Please share...
TB
Posted by trade04 on :
if u sold * .98 u should buy back down here imo. great flip!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: I think this is why Rufus isn't going to file the 10k just yet, I think he wants shareholders to realize what they have... -hence the parade of PR's that will now happen. MO
And as far as buyers, there are traders who only play IPO's.. Heck Google (which Rufus likened to CSHD) opened I believe for $100 a share and then doubled in one day didn't it?!!
Now if they keep nailing down deals like they just posted, what trader wouldn't buy at $15?? And institutional buyers buy by the truckload! Go to Investorsbusinessdaily dot com and on their front page they LIST what the Big Boys are buying and selling.
TAX-
I traded google on opening day. IPO was a tues. you could have gotten it for $85. First trading day was a thurs. it opened at $95. EOD frist day $102 w a high of $104. I do think it got to $120 in the first few days trading but even day twos high was only like $108.
then that would be my mistake, I was only half watching it, that is why I posted that as "I believe" and not as fact. -but I thought it did do that... hmmm.
Regardless it was almost at $400 last Thursday, it's at $378 now ~
But hopefully you get the point I was trying to make, which is that if the book value is higher then the price, it will climb toward it. That's all... Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: OK...everyone...settle down...I know the wait is getting rough..but I am seeing posters that aren't bashing post opinions and "goodluck" wishes and peeps are "jumping" on them...relax... You don't always need to defend your choices...IMO
You're right 10. Pass maumee's blue shampoo.
Posted by milliam on :
About this Schwab letter...I don't understand what other brokers would be gaining by having access to these shares. Seems like the only reason for this would be more short selling...not covering. How could they cover when they are still only borrowing shares. I guess they might be trying to convert their naked shorts to real shorts, but would that even work out here?
Posted by trade04 on :
i've been hearing the government/media/ authors/etc speakin about how extremeist thinking (or whatever you want to call it) can't just be stopped using military assets. they speak about humanitarian missions, and guess what CSHD is involved with... yup. and then i read this sunday pr about rufus and republicans or w/e (i dont really care) and it just fit like a couple puzzle pieces
Posted by Chartwalker on :
where is rat?..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00:
TAX-
I traded google on opening day. IPO was a tues. you could have gotten it for $85. First trading day was a thurs. it opened at $95. EOD frist day $102 w a high of $104. I do think it got to $120 in the first few days trading but even day twos high was only like $108.
Cool, I had the chance to buy YaHoo at 5 bucks after the Internet bubble crash but chose to spend the money on the wedding and honeymoon to my wife. I think YaHoo hit $43 as its high since that day. I would still choose my wife, cause she makes me go YAaaaHOOOoooo! LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
The fax was real.... Posted by new2stocks on :
For anyone who is wondering about the Shwab fax:
I called the 1-800# on the fax and asked to speak with Howie Kennedy (he was on another call) so I spoke with David Pinto and I asked him to verify the authenticity of the fax in reagrds to borrowing CSHD shares....he said yes they did send the fax out to certain clients......if anyone is still uncertain, you can call yourself too. 1-800-355-2448. Posted by Vin on :
I can only see limited information from work, but is this thing picking up a little steam?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well I picked up a third of my original position X .74. I will still look to pick up the rest at a lower pps later. It may never give me another chance but we'll see.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
saaaweeet ~
Posted by djg7 on :
Good job new2. Going up.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Cool new2 thanks for making the call.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: where is rat?..
Family things...
Posted by Hustla on :
Wow so this fax from Schwab is real after all???
Man, I clearly voiced my doubt about it last night, but its actually true. Go figure. Charles Schwab wants a piece of CSHD. Well whoever sold on panic this morning is gonna kick themselves in the a$$ for gettin out. Thats the way the roller coaster go folks
Posted by djg7 on :
Resistance this morning seems to be .77. Even when the ask went above .77 only one trade got hit at .78.
Posted by new2stocks on :
originally posted by:HSM Enthusiast samaelrocks
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 867 I just spoke to an accountant friend of mine. Here's the low down after I showed him the 8k filing, latest PR, the letter from Schwab, and a synopsis of the history of this thing:
He tells me that the letter shows that Schwab is expecting an appreciation with this stock because they are offering X % on borrowed shares regardless of where the stock goes. Obviously, they don't expect it to go down but up.
8k and PR regarding the bond should be clarified in the 10k. Everyone seems to know about the s-4 that needs to happen to re register the shares at the new price of $20 plus.
What we don't know, or at least I haven't seen this, is WHO ARE THE ANALYSTS THAT WILL VALUATE CSHD TO $20 per share? Well, the Bond PR states: "With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings,"
So that tells me that we will know who is valuating the stock price in the 10k. Also, my friend SPECULATES that it may be Schwab doing this valuation per the letter but if other brokers are trying to borrow shares, then we can't specualte who will be doing the valuation.
As noted before, the valuation MUST be done to the liking of Institutions before they buy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rufus already said there were Institutions lined up to buy. People ask, "Why not buy now under a dollar"? Answer = the stock has not been valuated yet and we saw that in the Bond PR.
I wrote this out more for me than anyone else because I wanted an outside opinion. To me, this is looking really good.
GLTA!
Edit - As far as I know, my friend is NOT going to invest in CSHD nor did I ask him to. The above is solely his opinion on the material I showed him.
Posted by Schwabie on :
They send out thousands of emails of like that one on a daily basis...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: originally posted by:HSM Enthusiast samaelrocks
Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 867 I just spoke to an accountant friend of mine. Here's the low down after I showed him the 8k filing, latest PR, the letter from Schwab, and a synopsis of the history of this thing:
He tells me that the letter shows that Schwab is expecting an appreciation with this stock because they are offering X % on borrowed shares regardless of where the stock goes. Obviously, they don't expect it to go down but up.
8k and PR regarding the bond should be clarified in the 10k. Everyone seems to know about the s-4 that needs to happen to re register the shares at the new price of $20 plus.
What we don't know, or at least I haven't seen this, is WHO ARE THE ANALYSTS THAT WILL VALUATE CSHD TO $20 per share? Well, the Bond PR states: "With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings,"
So that tells me that we will know who is valuating the stock price in the 10k. Also, my friend SPECULATES that it may be Schwab doing this valuation per the letter but if other brokers are trying to borrow shares, then we can't specualte who will be doing the valuation.
As noted before, the valuation MUST be done to the liking of Institutions before they buy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rufus already said there were Institutions lined up to buy. People ask, "Why not buy now under a dollar"? Answer = the stock has not been valuated yet and we saw that in the Bond PR.
I wrote this out more for me than anyone else because I wanted an outside opinion. To me, this is looking really good.
GLTA!
Edit - As far as I know, my friend is NOT going to invest in CSHD nor did I ask him to. The above is solely his opinion on the material I showed him.
thanks for re-routing that to allstocks =)
Posted by fhalyesss on :
From HSM...
I just spoke to an accountant friend of mine. Here's the low down after I showed him the 8k filing, latest PR, the letter from Schwab, and a synopsis of the history of this thing:
He tells me that the letter shows that Schwab is expecting an appreciation with this stock because they are offering X % on borrowed shares regardless of where the stock goes. Obviously, they don't expect it to go down but up.
8k and PR regarding the bond should be clarified in the 10k. Everyone seems to know about the s-4 that needs to happen to re register the shares at the new price of $20 plus.
What we don't know, or at least I haven't seen this, is WHO ARE THE ANALYSTS THAT WILL VALUATE CSHD TO $20 per share? Well, the Bond PR states: "With the addition of this Asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63, up $10.63 from the original estimated $15.00 per share ($12.81 Book X 2). The exact number will be disclosed in the SEC filings,"
So that tells me that we will know who is valuating the stock price in the 10k. Also, my friend SPECULATES that it may be Schwab doing this valuation per the letter but if other brokers are trying to borrow shares, then we can't specualte who will be doing the valuation.
As noted before, the valuation MUST be done to the liking of Institutions before they buy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Rufus already said there were Institutions lined up to buy. People ask, "Why not buy now under a dollar"? Answer = the stock has not been valuated yet and we saw that in the Bond PR.
I wrote this out more for me than anyone else because I wanted an outside opinion. To me, this is looking really good.
Posted by fhalyesss on :
BEAT ME TO IT TRADE!!!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by fhalyesss: BEAT ME TO IT TRADE!!!!!
New2stocks you mean Posted by new2stocks on :
Thanks Chart... Posted by fhalyesss on :
I can see the allstocks server crashing as thousands of members try to post the 10k simultaneousley!!!!!!!!!
Posted by mnvestor on :
Wow... That's more then just a "Bathroom read!" LOL
Posted by milliam on :
Been trying to DD some more so that I can input some into this thing, but I haven't really found much else.
I did, however, find a great website for DD work on individuals and companies. http://www.zoominfo.com
Conversion Solutions, and everyone involved is listed here. Stephen O Canady is also on here. I haven't had too much more time to check into others, but I couldn't find the Adnan Sakli and there seems to be a couple of people by the name Craig M. Cason listed.
Posted by cassity on :
does anyone else think that L2's look weird the last 20 mins or so?
Posted by dog on :
I sold 10,000 shares at .76 and bought them back at .75 just to check out the pressure.... it took almost 2 hours!
There are no more shares available out there.... MM's must be selling to themselves.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I sold 10,000 shares at .76 and bought them back at .75 just to check out the pressure.... it took almost 2 hours!
There are no more shares available out there.... MM's must be selling to themselves.
That's what I was thinking.
Posted by dog on :
This thing will never move without news.... I may have to give up watching... it's just so exciting I can't step away. LOL
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: This thing will never move without news.... I may have to give up watching... it's just so exciting I can't step away. LOL
Looks like they may bring it down to .7, but this thing would move so fast with some buying pressure. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Nothing of major importance but DDing the Executive committee to the CEO found on the cvsu.us site under CSHD Executives. It appears that Rufas is not the only one fed up with shorts in OTCBB land. I found a letter supporting Regulation SHO on the sec site from Kent Christenberry.
Author: KNTSKC*AOL.com at Internet Date: 07/06/2000 6:37 AM Normal TO: RULE-COMMENTS at 03SEC Subject: Rule S7-24-99 ------------------------------- Message Contents On Thu Jul 6 06:37:03 2000, The following information was submitted: Host: 205.188.192.29 submit_by = KNTSKC*AOL.com Name = Kent Christenberry Professional_Affiliation = Investor Subject = Short Sales (Release No. 34-42037; File No. S7-24-99) Comments = I am writing you this letter to show that I am in favor of the proposed Concept Release (No. 34-42037; File No. S7-24-99). It is known that the life blood of a small company is access to capital for creation and growth. It is also known that investors who place funds in such companies expect and deserve protection from fraud and manipulation. Small business is a critical building block for jobs and wealth in our economy. MMs have steadily been selling more shares than they have bought, defying the laws of supply and demand, solid company fundamentals and favorable company press releases, resulting in plummeting stock prices. The laws of supply and demand have been denied and investors deprived of fair value. Meanwhile, the company valuation of stock has been greatly reduced and with it, access to investment capital for acquisitions and growth.
The MMs are supposed to provide a fair market trading mechanism, yet ,when they become invested through shorting, they actually have a vested interest in seeing the price fall. This practice must be brought under some form of control.
The Securities Act provides certain protective language as it relates to investors. Section 15A(b)(6) of the Securities Act says that the rules of a national securities association must be designed, among other things to prevent fraudulent and manipulative acts and practices and to protect investors and the public interest, and perfect the mechanism of a free and open market. Section 15A(b)(11) requires that association rules be designed to produce fair and information quotations, and to prevent fictitious and misleading quotations. In spite of the intent expressed by these two sections of the Securities Act, and unlike the Nasdaq, NYSE and AMEX, MMs are not required by the SEC to disclose short positions on OTCBB stocks.
The MMs can short, even naked short, at will with no checks and balances on OTCBB stocks. This leaves the OTCBB listed companies prey to market manipulation on a scale only limited by the greed and imagination of the MMs. The MMs just keep selling the targeted companies stocks with the idea that they will never have to produce real shares. Their apparent goal is to force the company to fail by depriving it of working capital and discouraging investment. It is my belief billions of dollars are being stolen from investors in this manner. For the MMs, it's a wonderful business; sort of like selling insurance, but never having to pay claims. They get the money, but have no expense or expectation of delivering anything tangible in return. This unfair and counter productive practice cannot go on.
MMs must be held accountable by requiring mandatory disclosure of MM short positions on all OTCBB listed stocks. In this manner, excessive shorting can be made known to the investing public, monitored for excess and corrected by the SEC/NASD. Then and only then can investors in these stocks be treated with the appropriate protection against fraud and manipulation.
************ enjoy TB
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Hey Tax the author of that might be a poster on Ihub.
Posted by cassity on :
Has anyone ever thought logically about the fact that Rufus is throwing around reputable companies names (AISS). Think about it, these companies on the CVSU website would know that they are being mentioned in all of Rufus's little speeches. So, people want to believe that Rufus convinced multiple companies to collaborate with him on a master scam. Does that make sense to you? As for me, this is the one reason I have stayed in this stock for so long. Between the SEC and the companies involved, I find it hard to believe that Rufus has that much power. But of course this is JMO. GLTA
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Who... Kent? on IHUB? I feel sorry for him. LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Has anyone ever thought logically about the fact that Rufus is throwing around reputable companies names (AISS). Think about it, these companies on the CVSU website would know that they are being mentioned in all of Rufus's little speeches. So, people want to believe that Rufus convinced multiple companies to collaborate with him on a master scam. Does that make sense to you? As for me, this is the one reason I have stayed in this stock for so long. Between the SEC and the companies involved, I find it hard to believe that Rufus has that much power. But of course this is JMO. GLTA
-another good point ~
Bulls vs Bears... I have to take the Bulls on this one. I've stated it before, but until I have a "FACT" that is negative I'm LONG with this puppy Posted by RyanPBF on :
no kidding. Sad thing is that before everything went down it wasn't a bad board. There's some good people there.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I find it hard to believe that Rufus has that much power.
He seems to have some major contacts, and people are not going to sit idle while Rufas capitalizes on their name.
Additionally, based on my DD, I think someone else with much greater "Power" is pulling the strings here. Seems to be a few very high profile silent advisors involved, and I would "speculate" at least one with some serious government clout. This is just my opinion... nothing more nothing less. If I had anything with more meat I would post it. A few things on a few known silent advisors I have posted.
TB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Specifically "William Tay" who is signatory in the articles of incorporation for Conversion Solutions. This guy is some what of an inigma and appears to have his hands in quite a few different ventures.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Okay, Just got off work. Nice to see level heads here at allstocks. I don't know where my head would be without ya'll. So I called (twice) again to Schwab this morning and talked to the Securities lending department to get more of an understanding of this type of thing. I still don't understand everything but I'll relay the questions I asked and the answers I recieved from those in this department of schwab (they were very nice and helpful). I asked how common this sort of thing is. They say it's quite common. Basically they are lending fully purchased shares (from their clients at their permission) to primary brokers (like Morgan Stanly type brokers) for investors to maybe hedge a fund position, short a stock, or for setttlement purposes. This has been going on for over 30 years the schwab agent told me although the rep told me that Schwab is the only online broker that she knew of. I asked what if the pps goes up into the 20's. She said well i'd obvioiusly good for the holder and also Schwab would make good money on it also. Basically noti
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Sorry I accidentally hit send before finished typeing
Okay, Just got off work. Nice to see level heads here at allstocks. I don't know where my head would be without ya'll. So I called (twice) again to Schwab this morning and talked to the Securities lending department to get more of an understanding of this type of thing. I still don't understand everything but I'll relay the questions I asked and the answers I recieved from those in this department of schwab (they were very nice and helpful). I asked how common this sort of thing is. They say it's quite common. Basically they are lending fully purchased shares (from their clients at their permission) to primary brokers (like Morgan Stanly type brokers) for investors to maybe hedge a fund position, short a stock, or for setttlement purposes. This has been going on for over 30 years the schwab agent told me although the rep told me that Schwab is the only online broker that she knew of. I asked what if the pps goes up into the 20's. She said well i'd obvioiusly good for the holder and also Schwab would make good money on it also. Basically nothing reallly has changed. People are buying and people are selling, and some idiots want to short sell others are hedging. All that's being affected right now is the pps had a drop because of nervous investors (investors is a bebatable term i guess:). PPS does not mean a thing right now except for flippers. When the 10K comes all will be figured out. Some will be sad, some will be happy. Ima
Posted by 10of13 on :
Here's MO on the Schwab thing..."they" are looking at this reopening at the $25...people are going to short the hell out of it....knowing that it will fall hard...that is why Schwab is making the offer for the "loan"...so yep...$25 is comin...and shorting will be happening...bigger that crap...because it will fall as fast as it went up...IMO..
doesn't mean you will loose all of the money...those shorts have to buy to cover...the price will fall...and it will rise again...there is huge room for money here...before and after the reset IMO!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Here is what zoom info has on one of 19 listings for William Tay Seems to be at least two people here but my DD places both living on Statton Island. Coincedence Hmmm... One is a highly skilled programmer who has succeeded in some Dot Coms and is tied to Microsoft, the other was a broker for the NASD who has started several Holdings companies over the past several years (sound familiar?) This is why I say this guy is an inigma. I don't know which is involved with Rufas if either.
Here is the NASD brokers listing on zoominfo:
Employment History
Officer and Director1 Crescendo Acquisition Corp.
licensed National Association of Securities Dealers1 Crescendo Acquisition Corp.
Director , President , and Secretary1 Crescendo Acquisition Corp.
Series 7 Registered Representative1 Crescendo Acquisition Corp.
Officer and Director3 Voorhees Acquisition Corp
Board Member3 Voorhees Acquisition Corp
Director , President , and Secretary3 Voorhees Acquisition Corp
Founder2 Heritage Capital Group Inc
Officer and Director4 Heritage Capital Group Inc
Chief Executive Officer , Chief Financial Officer , President , Treasurer and Director2 Donar Enterprises Inc
President , Chief Executive Officer , Secretary , Treasurer , Chief Financial and Accounting Officer and Director2 Donar Enterprises Inc
Director , Vice President and Secretary2 Legend International Holdings , Inc.
William Tay, Director, President, CEO/CFO, Secretary and Treasurer
Mr. Tay has served as the Company's director, president, and secretary since inception, and will serve on the board until the next annual shareholders' meeting of the Company or until a successor is elected. There are no agreements or understandings for the officer and director to resign at the request of another person, and the above-named officer and director is not acting on behalf of, nor will act at the direction of, any other person.
Set forth below is the name of the sole director and officer of the Company, all positions and offices with the Company held, the period during which he has served as such, and his business experience during at least the last five years:
William Tay has been Voorhees Acquisition Corp. President, Chief Executive Officer, Chief Financial Officer and Director since its inception. For the past five years, he has been a business consultant, specializing in corporate and securities consulting services for small to medium sized entrepreneurial companies. Prior to that, Mr. Tay was a licensed National Association of Securities Dealers (NASD) Series 7 Registered Representative or stockbroker.
Mr. Tay has not involved in any legal proceedings as described in Item 401 of Regulation S-B.
NOTES:
(1) William Tay is Voorhees' sole officer, director and sole beneficial shareholder. Mr. Tay owns 100% of the capital stock of Voorhees Acquisition Corp.
(2) William Tay is not an officer or director of any other company with a class of securities registered under Section 12 of the Exchange Act or subject to the requirements of Section 15(d) thereof.
CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
The Company's proposed business raises potential conflicts of interest between the Company and William Tay, the Company's sole officer and director. Mr. Tay has other business interests to which he currently devotes attention, and is expected to continue to do so. As a result, conflicts of interest may arise that can be resolved only through his exercise of judgment in a manner which is consistent with his fiduciary duties to the Company. Mr. Tay intends to devote as much time to the activities of the Company as required. However, should such a conflict arise, there is no assurance that Mr. Tay would not attend to other matters prior to those of the Company. Mr. Tay estimates that the business plan of the Company can be implemented in theory by devoting approximately 15 to 20 hours per month over the course of several months but such figure cannot be stated with precision.
The terms of business combination may include such terms as Mr. Tay remaining a director or officer of the Company and/or the continuing work of the Company being handled by Mr. Tay as a director. The terms of a business combination may provide for a payment by cash or otherwise to Mr. Tay for the purchase or retirement of all or part of his common stock of the Company by a target company. Mr. Tay would directly benefit from such payment. ... We do not have an Audit Committee, William Tay, our sole director, performs some of the same functions of an Audit Committee, such as: recommending a firm of independent certified public accountants to audit the annual financial statements; reviewing the independent auditors independence, the financial statements and their audit report; and reviewing management's administration of the system of internal accounting controls. ... William Tay, our sole director, performs some of the functions associated with a Nominating Committee.
****************************************
I am done cluttering up the thread but if this guy knows Rufas, my question is who else is he pals with.
Posted by cassity on :
Hey 10, does it look like we have some major bid support right now on L2's? I'm still dialing in my L2 reading. Thanks
Posted by 10of13 on :
Lookin' at l2's seems to be support at .71 and .70 and again at .51
Posted by cassity on :
Good that's what I saw! Thanks
Posted by Sandusky on :
Tax, given Kent's letter:
1) can the 10k delay be explained by Rufus making his abosulute best play for going straight to NASD, where shorts are scrutinized more carefully? Perhaps he intends to circumvent 10's scenario after the reset?
2) Is that even possible (straight to NASD)? I know we've discussed this before, but your letter has me thinking along these lines again.
If I inquire in ingnorance please accept my utmost apologies. I'm prepared to dive into our previous 300+ pages...AGAIN:)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Taxback ~ Nice job, looks like a Hollywood bestseller to me! ha!
Stockmarket, scams, Government, fighter planes and Patents this has it all!
If I were Rufus I would be wondering about keeping the stock from shorting (dropping) when the IPO hits. Could it be that what Rufus is now doing is going to institutional investors with the new bottom line (Bond) and setting things up to take off?
Hence why the faxes are going out asking for shares? How/why would schwab pick our little old nothing stock?
I mean come on, yes they sent those type of faxes out before but """WHY""" do they? They must be REASONS for doing so... Right?
They don't do that with every stock do they?
I still think (IMO) that we are sitting on a Goldmine. I'm sure people have called the SEC about Rufus, made calls about the bond deal, checked with Schwab and STILL there is nothing that supports the "scam" theory...
BUT... If you were greedy you would bash it to drive the price down to grab more shares, and on the other end, the MM's need to cover ground to so they trade a dried up supply amongst themselves.
"All Theory" -yes
But boy is it making sense and connecting dots isn't it! ~
-I see we are at our Fib. support level of .71 again, hmmm. After putting all these dots together it suddenly makes sense why the PPS is where it is... IMO
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Someone did clarify the new bond is owned by Humanitarian and Scientific correct?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Someone did clarify the new bond is owned by Humanitarian and Scientific correct?
That was posted today... -yes.
"Who posted it?..."
Posted by Chartwalker on :
New2stocks did the fax call... That checked out.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't remember maybe newtostocks. Has anyone called and questioned Humanitarian and Scientific. I don't know if there's a need to. The NY Post blurb seemed to link them with CVSU.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: New2stocks did the fax call... That checked out.
I need to correct myself, Schwab sent out letters to clients, not faxes. Someone faxed a copy to another person who posted it on HSM....Sorry! Posted by Chartwalker on :
Where's BB when you need her?! lol ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: New2stocks did the fax call... That checked out.
I need to correct myself, Schwab sent out letters to clients, not faxes. Someone faxed a copy to another person who posted it on HSM....Sorry!
Thanks for the clarification ~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
what's this no trades in like 12 minutes. Did they halt this lol Posted by Chartwalker on :
Dried up float! lol ~
Hey pay the .73 or you don't get any! ha ha ~
Posted by dog on :
Must be fun trading back and forth... makin a little money but still not having enough shares to save them from the damage of a reset. Makes me glad to be sitting where we are.
"you gotta know when to hold 'em..." - K. Rogers
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
You mean flipping? Everyone has received their shares. What damage will there be?
Posted by thecon00 on :
I agree w your point TAX.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
some mirror trades going through
Posted by dog on :
I mean the shorts trying to catch up... they can't accumulate enough.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Here's an OPEN door...
We never did get a straight answer as to who and WHERE someone could short a penny stock did we?!!
What's the deal with that anyway?!!
If nobody knows WHERE you can short a penny stock, then where are all these "shorters" coming from?!!
Is it a private game only MM's can play?
They can do anything you know, is that yet another little scam they have that's a hidden secret?...
So board... WHO are the shorters and "WHERE" and HOW are they doing it?!! That is my question...
Let's put together our minds and put to rest some of the BS that's flying around all the boards shall we?...
Let's get a clearer picture of what's REALLY going on here with the PPS!!!
Any idea's board?...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
From what everyone says MM's can do it. United States accounts can't people get offshore accounts to be able to short. I don't know if Canada allows it.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
There are apparently a few places outside of the US that you can short pennies... The MM's can and Have shorted them...and it sounds like if you"have enough $" you can "pay" and actual MM to short them And IMO...some of these trades are indeed Mirror trades... look at the sho list...it states that this is "short"... there's some of my thoughts...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
wow...volume seems to really be kicking ass today...
any of the regular "callers" try to make contact recently? (i'm not asking anyone to do it, just curious if anyone has)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: I still think its all in the chart...
all pretty expensive but internaxx seems decent enough...you have to look a little deeper into their position on shorting though...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Ouch...falling again...ARGH!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Thx crab, I'm on it!! I'll start sending emails asking about shortselling US pennys. -------------------------------------
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Posted by 10of13 on :
although the last trade was at .70...it still has the bid ask below that...nope...no manipulation here...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Thanks for checking it out for us Chartwalker. I am curious as to what you find out.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey chart...keep us posted...I started a thread on the general investing topics board about the shorting...let us know..or post it over there...PLEASE????
Posted by ruthie on :
Crap!!!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Sorry ran out for lunch... In response to your question Sand. I don't think he has the ability legally to go straight to NASDAQ but I think he has a good plan on making his stay on the OTCBB a very short one. They have strict guidelines that must be met to achieve a NASDAQ listing and two major ones are average share price and average volume. They have not made that goal yet.
I think they will qualify within the timeframe they specified 30 to 60 days following the 10K. The listing itself is very expensive for companies with large numbers of shares, it is a positive note that Rufas is even talking about it. It means he has little concern for the price of the listing because they "have" the funds. Sort of supports his large "proclaimed" war chest.
I really want to keep digging until I find the political tie to Rufas. I know it or they are out there somewhere but I can't seem to locate it just yet. Most politicians tax returns are publicized to some point. I remember combing through kerry's Tax return prior to the last presidential campaign. But with the number of ties to Georgia, Texas, and New York and a lean to the Republican Party and Military contracts I feel I got a few places to start.
Honestly I am not doing this for the board or the stock at this point. I am very satisfied with the investment I have made and plan on holding. I would just like to know exactly how big this Holdings company is, because it appears to grow bigger everytime I start to dig.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
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Posted by 10of13 on :
Doesn't look like it's going to bounce.... Ok..I take that back..maybe it is going to bounce...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Glad it did bounce! Look where we were headed!!!!
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: For me it's NOT about the price.. But here you go:
gaps: up Aug-18-2006 0.73 to 0.85 up Aug-09-2006 to 1.05
down Aug-16-2006 0.865 to 0.845 down Aug-15-2006 1.04 to 1.035
Fib support at .71 held!!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Now what support do we have? Never mind, I see it. Thanks Chart. Supp .71 Supp .56 supp .43
Like I said though, I picked up a third of my original position and will pick up the other 2/3rds later when its at a better discount.
I sure hope we get $25 pps. That would be so awesome!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Another nail biter EOD...
Boy are they working it over too....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Money, you might get your wish with that discount!
Then again a after hours PR might wipe that out. What to do what to do.... lol ~ GL!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: Thx Tax! I've come to appreciate your perspective very much...
Which perspective? The one where I sift through large amounts it Internet sources, or the one where I shake uncontrollably and quote Beavis.
How about the half naked indian and the Van Morrison music, or the paranoid pyramid worshiper.
I need to know which one just so I can send that personallity a thank you card giving it the deserved props.
j/k We all do our part on this board. I know BB has helped us all alot with her research. Tex has shown a deep understanding of the market and it's regs. Chart and Rat have to be given their props for some excellent chart decipherment (Is that a word?) 10of13 is awesome at keeping us "All" real and in check... And I could go on and on... It is a good deal of work keeping a level head when the waves are this big.
I have been watching pennies for a very long time, and have a small obsession of the market in general. I really get a kick out of trying to locate the diamonds in the rough, but will also say that many on this board preach caution and financial protection. This is the makings of a great group of investors, people aware of what risks are there and who are not afraid to voice concerns.
I got on to someone earlier about being mad about too much "speculation". mainly because I believe it takes a certain amount of "speculation" to get to the bottom of difficult questions. If someone hadn't first speculated a $15 share price, no one would have looked up whether it was possible/legal or not. Someone did and the answer was encouraging, so we are all here.
I think we are getting real close to seeing the percentage gain on this stock while others are already there. Let's just continue to question this stock, keep a level head about the "wild" claims and accusations, and play this to the level we are each most comfortable. It still looks like a winner in my opinion.
GLTA TB
Posted by Hustla on :
MMs needed shares really badly today. There were so many signals being thrown across the streamers screaming I need shares, take it down a little and so on. But it worked somewhat, they did manage to scare some more hands to give up their shares as you can see. I usually don't get these feelings with penny stocks, but I feel something good is brewing for the after hours and tomorrow. Trading pattern was just too weird today.
But thats just my feeling right now, it could change by closing bell.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Money, you might get your wish with that discount!
Then again a after hours PR might wipe that out. What to do what to do.... lol ~ GL!!
Good point. And that does scare me cause its such good money if the reset occurs. But I will have protected my capital in the best way I knew how. Looking like I won't get that chance today but I'll look forward to tomorrow. Here's the chart: http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p24041609178 Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'd like to actually TRY to set up an off shore account and try to short and report back here as to what I find out. I don't like mysteries...
So, next step, anyone know of a broker overseas?
I'll do it, and provide all documents, then we'll all know, period.
A small little run/push...for EOD!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'd like to actually TRY to set up an off shore account and try to short and report back here as to what I find out. I don't like mysteries...
So, next step, anyone know of a broker overseas?
I'll do it, and provide all documents, then we'll all know, period.
Nice.. ha! Caymen islands and it's ad is on the web here but has ne email address?!!!
I think we have a winner here boys! LOL I'll have to contact them some other way, hmmm.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'd like to actually TRY to set up an off shore account and try to short and report back here as to what I find out. I don't like mysteries...
So, next step, anyone know of a broker overseas?
I'll do it, and provide all documents, then we'll all know, period.
Nice.. ha! Caymen islands and it's ad is on the web here but has ne email address?!!!
I think we have a winner here boys! LOL I'll have to contact them some other way, hmmm.
On the open an account link...you have to certify that you are not a US or Canada resident...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'd like to actually TRY to set up an off shore account and try to short and report back here as to what I find out. I don't like mysteries...
So, next step, anyone know of a broker overseas?
I'll do it, and provide all documents, then we'll all know, period.
What is the Short Sale Rule? In order to sell securities of which you do not own, (i.e. short sale), per NASD Rule 3350, you can only sell on an uptick where the current bid is higher then the previous sell.
How do you short stocks? The Uptick Rule for shorting stocks requires that a stock be on an uptick before a stock can be shorted (See item #10 for more on this rule). A stock must also be available to short. TurboTrade publishes its list of shortable stocks every day, which can be checked. If the stock you desire is not on the list, we can usually locate a borrowable stock. The software will prevent you from shorting a non-borrowable stock as well. If your trade is time-sensitive, you should check the list or have the stock located prior to making the trade. It should be noted that short selling carries an additional risk. There is a potential for the investor to lose up to and exceeding 100 percent of the equity. Theoretically, a stock could continue to go up indefinitely. Therefore, there is no ceiling for the losses.
Notice "List of Shortable Stocks" above... Seems to me you can't just short whatever you want ever there, AND that the rules we play by they do too! Note they quote the NASD Rule 3350!!
Hmmmm.... I think the ghost emeny is starting to take shape. Frick'n MM's!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Hustla on :
Opening tomorrow is looking a lot more positive than opening today. There was good support at low 7. Here's to waiting for that dam 10K and protecting your capital while you burn your eyes out over your pc, LOL.
Good luck tomorrow people, I'm off to my other work
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Money, you might get your wish with that discount!
Then again a after hours PR might wipe that out. What to do what to do.... lol ~ GL!!
no kidding - I've been contemplating all day about whether to pick up more - if we hear something tonight I'll kick myself - if we don't hear something tonight then I fully expect an additional drop tomorrow and then I can begin the contemplation process all over again Posted by Sandusky on :
Ha Ha Tax...good times. I get credit for Van Morrison by the way when I tried calling Rufus and Ben "just for fun".
Hopefully with some more experience I can contribute more to board than that...as it is I'm trying to keep up with you and everyone (plus some) you referenced. Most of the time this stock feels like my first date...I'm all hot and bothered but not a damn clue what to do about it! Posted by Chartwalker on :
No other reply's to over seas accounts yet other then the form letter I posted. I'll keep you all posted
Have some thing's to do around the house.. Catch ya later ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Money, you might get your wish with that discount!
Then again a after hours PR might wipe that out. What to do what to do.... lol ~ GL!!
no kidding - I've been contemplating all day about whether to pick up more - if we hear something tonight I'll kick myself - if we don't hear something tonight then I fully expect an additional drop tomorrow and then I can begin the contemplation process all over again
hey MT! Nice to hear from ya ~
Posted by betting babe on :
hey y'all!
have i missed anything? now we're setting up offshore accounts? we must be rich
~BB
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: hey y'all!
have i missed anything? now we're setting up offshore accounts? we must be rich
~BB
I feel a little better know YOU are here! Posted by dog on :
another day of MM's buying and selling to eachother... saw like 100 mirror trades today... they are fishing for float but no takers. Stock dipped a bit with the manipulation and rumors abound about a PR tonight as someone said they talked to Ben Stanley over on iHub.
Other than that... different date, same day, and no 10K
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: I'd like to actually TRY to set up an off shore account and try to short and report back here as to what I find out. I don't like mysteries...
So, next step, anyone know of a broker overseas?
I'll do it, and provide all documents, then we'll all know, period.
Nice.. ha! Caymen islands and it's ad is on the web here but has ne email address?!!!
I think we have a winner here boys! LOL I'll have to contact them some other way, hmmm.
On the open an account link...you have to certify that you are not a US or Canada resident...
Really? hmmmm, gonna have a look
Posted by T e x on :
wow, that's kinda scary, huh?
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: I feel a little better know YOU are here!
well then, my work here is done! LOL
Posted by dog on :
effin crazy.... like a crackhead robbing a bank cuz that's where the money is. Wouldn't do it for any amount of possible money. This way I know what I'm losing. Impossible to calculate losses when recovering short position...
Posted by Hannibull on :
why is there a restriction for US citizens? I'm not a US citizen but I don't have $25,000 in cash at this moment to open an account so I can't try it out lol
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Interesting find... Created date 2/8/2006. Annual Registration filed a month ago?
Tax...this looks like it was filed today...not a month ago...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Why does everyone I am researching seem to have two completely seperate lives. Now I am looking into AISS VP Sabra Dabbs and she seems to be CEO of a some Power House funding company out of Atlanta, and in June was looking into a 75 Million dollar estate in Los Angeles. Additionally Zoominfo has her as CEO of a recriting company in Atlanta with a long standing history in the recriuting business.
Posted by dog on :
Now on iHub they are threatening to send any pumping or manipulating statements to the SEC.... we'll see a halt alright... halt from so many idiots calling the SEC every day. That would really help us out.
Those idiots can't shut their mouths and sit tight. Battle of egos over there.
Posted by betting babe on :
right, so mr ickHub has just gotten this great news from Ben and now he is gonna keep it all to himself and make us all call Ben to really pizz him off.
nice. yeah ill take it fwiw
anyone else DD Sakli? *ahem*
~BB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Interesting find... Created date 2/8/2006. Annual Registration filed a month ago?
Tax...this looks like it was filed today...not a month ago...
Last Annual Registration Filed Date: 7/25/2006
I think the date at the top was just todays date, we could always check it again tomorrow.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: right, so mr ickHub has just gotten this great news from Ben and now he is gonna keep it all to himself and make us all call Ben to really pizz him off.
nice. yeah ill take it fwiw ;)
anyone else DD Sakli? *ahem*
~BB
LOL..so what do yah got BB? Care to share?
Posted by dog on :
You never know BB... this just might be the piece of DD we have all been searching for to solidify this deal, and raise our PPS. LOL
Posted by dog on :
You could slap the iHubbers upside the head with a 10K the size of a phone book and they would still be arguing as to it's authenticity rather than doing the DD, and believing it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
anyone else DD Sakli? *ahem*
~BB
Yes looked into him a bit... He seems to have a history about him. The jury is still out on him for me.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Looking at the three as a whole I am not that impressed. Carson, and Sakli seem to have some troubled pasts, while Canady seems a bit young to be involved in such an organization.
I could be way off he could have been a career student but most of the stuff I am finding on him is regarding his internship with NASA and his work on bio terrorism prevention. He is probably some old man and I am just off.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Practically everything I am finding on Sakli is either some board trying to DD him... LOL or some type of court case in one of 10 to 20 states. Is this what you are referring too?
Posted by betting babe on :
agree with Tax, jury is still out, but deeper diggin needs a doin.
~BB
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Interesting find... Created date 2/8/2006. Annual Registration filed a month ago?
Hey Tex...Would this be more "verification" of the theory that "this was planned for quite a while?"
mmm....seems neutral, without knowing more...
seems safe to assume CVSU folk had at least started to zero in on FHAL by that time, but so far I haven't seen anything that ties Canady et al to Harris et al before the latest bond. Sure, there's "real estate" in general--which *does* provide reasonable avenue for further questions...but does *not* provide any assumptions...
Posted by T e x on :
remember, the Cease & Desist order scenario grew out of real estate meetings...
Posted by T e x on :
TaxBack writes: " . . . while Canady seems a bit young to be involved in such an organization."
you mean, Canady of Canady Holdings, ordered to "cease & desist" by the state of Missouri?
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: You could slap the iHubbers upside the head with a 10K the size of a phone book and they would still be arguing as to it's authenticity rather than doing the DD, and believing it.
Now this is both the funniest thing I have read today and the most true.
Posted by coalkickin on :
Correct....was from Feb....date on top was from Today
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
US District court - District of Connecticut Hicks v. Hampton 1/19/2006 Civil 3:06CV95
Civil RICO case with a host of defendants, Adnan Sakli being among them. Case is still open. I have the main document (18 Pages) downloaded from PACER. If anyone is interested send me a PM with email.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Looking up Adnan Sakli haven't found much...all negative stuff...and I don't even know that it is the same person...Found this...website about "financing and "stuff"...info on Bonds ...from back in 04...take a look around and see if you aren't seeing some ??? stuff...
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: [QUOTE]Originally posted by TaxBack04: [qb] Interesting find... Created date 2/8/2006. Annual Registration filed a month ago?
Hey Tex...Would this be more "verification" of the theory that "this was planned for quite a while?"
ummm this shows me nothing of a connection between this page and cshd. correct me if im wrong
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: [QUOTE]Originally posted by TaxBack04: [qb] Interesting find... Created date 2/8/2006. Annual Registration filed a month ago?
Hey Tex...Would this be more "verification" of the theory that "this was planned for quite a while?"
ummm this shows me nothing of a connection between this page and cshd. correct me if im wrong
not following you -- the "second bond" is the connection ???
Posted by dog on :
Well Adnan Sakli looks like a great guy to do business with. Maybe he just sucked then, and has his act together now? Maybe he realizes there is more to be gained from running legitimate business deals.
Don't know if I should be sarcastic or believe the words themselves.
Posted by betting babe on :
lol dog
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey Taxback...
According to the this link...that phone conversation the man at TD ameritrade says that you can short "penny stocks with them"..it's in the last 5 minutes...
when I first looked into him he seemed to be the shadiest of the bunch. I thought that someone from either HSM or Ihub verified that The Humanitarian and Scientific were the owners of this bond that was just pr'd. If that is the case it looks like they have the money. Just like everything else around here we'll just have to wait and see.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Well Adnan Sakli looks like a great guy to do business with. Maybe he just sucked then, and has his act together now? Maybe he realizes there is more to be gained from running legitimate business deals.
Don't know if I should be sarcastic or believe the words themselves.
Seems alot of these people have had "shady" backgrounds...maybe they all met during the "rough times" and decided to get their act together...???
ARGH!
Posted by dog on :
Well... most politicians and businessman of any import, have some interesting backgrounds I'm sure....
Posted by GreenDay on :
Anyone watching the Enron special on HDNET - scary stuff...
I've been working and missing the action. I just read back over the last 7 pages or so and can't seem to figure why we drop to .70 to close. What's am I missing? or are too many just loosing patience and moving on?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Well... most politicians and businessman of any import, have some interesting backgrounds I'm sure....
ya, good point--we don't care if anybody's been swindled, as long as we have a chance to make dough...lol Posted by glassman on :
i just got another package from the class action lawyers on Global Crossing... i think this is the fourth one from them.. i keep throwing them away cuz i sold it before it tanked.. that one was recomended by my human broker too..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey Taxback...
According to the this link...that phone conversation the man at TD ameritrade says that you can short "penny stocks with them"..it's in the last 5 minutes...
Maybe you were adressing Chart... I don't want to short. 1st or last 5 minutes. Posted by dog on :
Sometimes it takes a certain shrewd mentality to become a very powerful, connected, successful businessman.
I cannot imagine what is in it for them if they don't do the deal.... the chalice of victory lies forward.
Posted by dog on :
I sure would feel better if a new 8K was released detailing the new asset of this bond.
Posted by 10of13 on :
OOPs...sorry...yes...it was Chart...he was the one that was collecting info on the shorting...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I sure would feel better if a new 8K was released detailing the new asset of this bond.
don't fib...you want the deal done...just like the rest of us...LOL :D
Posted by dog on :
Well at this point I'm trying to extend my patience... another fluff PR won't help me sleep at night. So anything with some meat on it would be good.... I'm sick of the bones being tossed my way.
Posted by trade04 on :
2nd bond already? if the 2nd is as big as the first thats already 1 billion dollars worth.. WOwWowoW
Posted by dog on :
Is it optional to put out another 8K with this new asset? Or can they just head right to the 10K?
It would buy them some time with the shareholders to put out another 8K... maybe.
Hey... and does the money borrowed against that bond have to be sitting in the bank account of CSHD at the finalization of the merger?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: 2nd bond already? if the 2nd is as big as the first thats already 1 billion dollars worth.. WOwWowoW
except...there seems to be "problems" with both ... Posted by dog on :
The bonds are real... and you would have to be insane as a group to associate yourself and company with them erroneously.
It's not like some idiot leaning on a Mercedes that is not his just to get a girl to talk to him.
What would be the point? The money to be made with a successfully backed holdings company is ridiculous.
Posted by trade04 on :
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by trade04: 2nd bond already? if the 2nd is as big as the first thats already 1 billion dollars worth.. WOwWowoW --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
except...there seems to be "problems" with both ...
could u elaborate? thanks
Posted by 10of13 on :
trade04...the bond thing.. and Tex might 'splain it better... but since the bonds are "tradable"...like stock are...it seems that "we" can't verify that Rufas and company "own" any of it...
Posted by betting babe on :
dang Livin! got the pdf. nothin like being sued by a whole country - Laos! Posted by betting babe on :
Tax, did you DD John Winch?
...On Feb 17, 06 they filed an ammendment to transfer the trustee of the corporation H & S World Foundation to Adnan Sakli.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: trade04...the bond thing.. and Tex might 'splain it better... but since the bonds are "tradable"...like stock are...it seems that "we" can't verify that Rufas and company "own" any of it...
well, except...as a public company? assets are sposed to be verifiable...
"Our stock holdings" as individual traders are different from public companies...
the idea is "transparency"
as mentioned before? If my stockholders have questions? I'd answer those questions....
Posted by dog on :
It boils down to this....
We paid to see a 10K... and the question is when?
Posted by trade04 on :
well harris has given out share holder updates answering questions from investors. but after a while the guys gotta get some real work done. He's been curiously consistant with the updates lately so i like that. hes answered most of my questions in prs. now its just left to having a little faith i suppose. i'm sure this guys fed up with investors. sihtttt i would be and i'm just READING!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: It boils down to this....
We paid to see a 10K... and the question is when?
sorry...not following
once again, lol... I know, I know--I'm slow sometimes
seems to me, we *really* want to know about these bonds, as they seem to be the "main claim to fame" on the asset side. Yes? No?
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by dog: It boils down to this....
We paid to see a 10K... and the question is when?
sorry...not following
once again, lol... I know, I know--I'm slow sometimes
seems to me, we *really* want to know about these bonds, as they seem to be the "main claim to fame" on the asset side. Yes? No?
yes! hopeing for a nice pr tomorrow that will discuss this + more
Posted by dog on :
Hell yes Tex... but the only thing that would make this situation as "transparent", would be the 10K.
Not sure if we will come up with DD that is 100% accurate or verifiable. This is a gamble with what I feel to this point is worth the risk vs. reward comparison.
Hence, we paid to see the 10K... not sure if digging deeper will clarify or confuse us further.
Posted by trade04 on :
dog, this is a big merger imo. 10k will be out very soon as stated in the prs.
Posted by dog on :
Sometimes I have to think clearly which can be difficult when I visit iHub every once in awhile.
Sometimes you go with your gut . .no guts, no glory!
Posted by dog on :
It's a big mofo if it happens according to plan...
Ownership in a holdings company... doesn't happen often for average Joe investor.
Posted by trade04 on :
prepare for a MAJOR short squeeze imo
Posted by T e x on :
"Hell yes Tex... but the only thing that would make this situation as "transparent", would be the 10K."
lol, respectfully disagree, anybody that "files" options a, b, c, with so little subesequent clarification?
I'll dig into that *transparent 10-k," too...lol
Hell?
ya--fight 'em till Hell freezes over--then fight on the ice!
lol, I'll keep digging "through the ice."
remember this--I begrudge no one any profit they can make from this play...my deal is to learn all I can.
In case this needs repeating? I'm on a 5-year plan to be expert: I'm about 16 months into my plan.... I can no longer claim "newbie status," yet I'm nowhere near where I will be...
[ August 22, 2006, 23:08: Message edited by: T e x ]
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: dang Livin! got the pdf. nothin like being sued by a whole country - Laos! :eek:
I just read it also... thanks livinon... not real sure that it is an "issue"... but any type of bad press...should be questioned... Sounds like he was quite possibly with the wrong company at a bad time? Hell i don't know... :confused:
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
In case this needs repeating? I'm on a 5-year plan to be expert: I'm about 16 months into my plan.... I can no longer claim "newbie status," yet I'm nowhere near where I will be...
WAIT...we are suppose to have a plan? Dang it!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
In case this needs repeating? I'm on a 5-year plan to be expert: I'm about 16 months into my plan.... I can no longer claim "newbie status," yet I'm nowhere near where I will be...
WAIT...we are suppose to have a plan? Dang it!
lol...maybe it's just me?
Posted by cassity on :
I'm at work right now, but if someone could dig up a phone# for AISS(Georgia Aero) and post it, I will call and see if I can get confirmation that CSHD is dealing with them (In the morning). Not sure if it's been done yet. Also, if you can find #'s of business's doing business with CSHD, post them and I will call them also. Thanks
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
In case this needs repeating? I'm on a 5-year plan to be expert: I'm about 16 months into my plan.... I can no longer claim "newbie status," yet I'm nowhere near where I will be...
WAIT...we are suppose to have a plan? Dang it!
lol...maybe it's just me?
I have no doubt that this board will make the 10K transparent... does the SEC scrutinize it as well or does the mystery continue?
Posted by T e x on :
SEC very S-l-o-w, dog...
if we wait on them? not only "the play" is gone, but also everything else is history.
Basically? It's up to we traders to figure it out in real-time...while the trade is still a play.
Apparently, you have not been through this before?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Tax, did you DD John Winch?
...On Feb 17, 06 they filed an ammendment to transfer the trustee of the corporation H & S World Foundation to Adnan Sakli.
I don't think I have John Winch on my list...
He is now. Who is he Monica and Maurice's love child? LOL
Posted by dog on :
Nothing like this my friend . . but I've spent a good deal of time on the exit strategy... but I'm comfortable making the call. This could go nothing at all like planned, and hasn't so far. So while we are mulling over the 10K, the stock keeps trading.... and how many days until SEC allows reset (if it even happens)?
Doubt you or anyone else has the perfect answer...but any tips you have are welcome. Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Tax, did you DD John Winch?
...On Feb 17, 06 they filed an ammendment to transfer the trustee of the corporation H & S World Foundation to Adnan Sakli.
I don't think I have John Winch on my list...
He is now. Who is he Monica and Maurice's love child? LOL
Winch is one of da players in the "cease & decist" order...
***EDIT*** I am wrong here: Nothing to date ( 8-22-06; 11:12 CST) that I am aware of links Winch to the Cease & Decist order. See later posts... simply got confused re players. My apologies -tex ****
[ August 23, 2006, 00:14: Message edited by: T e x ]
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
In case this needs repeating? I'm on a 5-year plan to be expert: I'm about 16 months into my plan.... I can no longer claim "newbie status," yet I'm nowhere near where I will be...
WAIT...we are suppose to have a plan? Dang it!
lol...maybe it's just me?
I am on the ten year plan... I am a bit slow. Posted by betting babe on :
LOL! on a side note, i didnt realize it was MONICA monica. she was a really hot singer for a while, kinda like brandy's competition.
John Winch is the Trustee name that the HUMANITARIAN & SCIENTIFIC WORLD FOUNDATION, LTD. was transferred out of when it was transferred in to Sakli's name.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Tax, did you DD John Winch?
...On Feb 17, 06 they filed an ammendment to transfer the trustee of the corporation H & S World Foundation to Adnan Sakli.
I don't think I have John Winch on my list...
He is now. Who is he Monica and Maurice's love child? LOL
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Winch is one of da players in the "cease & decist" order...
i missed something... where is that info?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: LOL! on a side note, i didnt realize it was MONICA monica. she was a really hot singer for a while, kinda like brandy's competition.
John Winch is the Trustee name that the HUMANITARIAN & SCIENTIFIC WORLD FOUNDATION, LTD. was transferred out of when it was transferred in to Sakli's name.
~BB
Yeah, that surprised me too. I actually thought MONICA and Brandy were the same person. My wife set me straight. Pretty cool that it did turn out to be a folk song lable, or some band in Oslo, Norway.
John Winch is a new one to me but he must be a straight arrow. Hard to Con a Con-Man. HA!
TB
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Winch is one of da players in the "cease & decist" order...
Hey dog, you needest to chillest! The 10k will be there when Rufus & Co. says it needs to be there!
It's only been better & better as far as I am concerned ... I trust them to guarantee their success and as well, ours.
"All in good time my pretty" from one of my favorite movies, Wizard of OZ.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
O...M...G... !!!! Have I got a bomb to drop here TOMORROW!!!
And the LONGS are going to LOOOOOOVVVEEEEEE what I have found out!!! LM MF AO!!!!
Yeah Baby!!!! YEAH!!! IT's all good!!
Q. How would you like to be in a chat room with someone who is talking about shortselling CSHD (or ""ANY"" OTCBB Pennystock $2.50 or less) and with nothing but simple knowledge OWN THEM!!!
Get ready to SHUT COMPLETLY DOWN penny stock short sellers of CSHD!!! Liars!!!
There is a CLEAR TRAIL (PROOF HARD CORE) for everyone to follow that explains the TRUTH about short selling CSHD (hell, ALL Penny stocks $2.50 and under!!!) and it ties in with that letter to shareholders that Schwab sent out!!
Have to wait for one more contact and then I'm blowing the lid off of this short selling BS!!
Wait till you hear this! What shortselling lairs we have had on here AND I CAN PROVE IT!!
One more contact..... -then... BOOM!
"The proof is in the pudding baby, and the proof of the pudding, is in the taste!"
Posted by dog on :
Sorry so glum... not really though... I expect it to be on the positive. See you on the other side.
Nite all.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Winch is one of da players in the "cease & decist" order...
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: O...M...G... !!!! Have I got a bomb to drop here TOMORROW!!!
And the LONGS are going to LOOOOOOVVVEEEEEE what I have found out!!! LM MF AO!!!!
Yeah Baby!!!! YEAH!!! IT's all good!!
Q. How would you like to be in a chat room with someone who is talking about shortselling CSHD (or ""ANY"" OTCBB Pennystock $2.50 or less) and with nothing but simple knowledge OWN THEM!!!
Get ready to SHUT COMPLETLY DOWN penny stock short sellers of CSHD!!! Liars!!!
There is a CLEAR TRAIL (PROOF HARD CORE) for everyone to follow that explains the TRUTH about short selling CSHD (hell, ALL Penny stocks $2.50 and under!!!) and it ties in with that letter to shareholders that Schwab sent out!!
Have to wait for one more contact and then I'm blowing the lid off of this short selling BS!!
Wait till you hear this! What shortselling lairs we have had on here AND I CAN PROVE IT!!
One more contact..... -then... BOOM!
"The proof is in the pudding baby, and the proof of the pudding, is in the taste!"
weeee...
that sounds dramatic...
almost cain't wait!
Posted by glassman on :
dangit Teyax man, i were re-reading an' trahn ta figger ayout what ah meyissed... i shoulda oughter jes' yelled atcha huh?
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: Hey dog, chart is goin to 1up Rufus, tune in at 2:30 am .... LMAO
Tonight? You *******s better bring the dog something juicy if I'm gonna be tappin into my beauty sleep! LOL
Posted by dog on :
I'll nap til then boys and girls...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: dangit Teyax man, i were re-reading trahn ta figger ayout what ah meyissed... i shoulda oughter jes' yelled atcha huh?
DOH--got confused. Need a "program" to follow all dese playaz...
but no, it's cool ( I hope ) -- made it clear in-thread I simply got confused...
thanks, though
Posted by betting babe on :
thx Tex got it.
and we reiterate... WINCH IS CLEAN ...now remove the cuffs and let 'im go on 'is way...
good night, wake me up if Chart's news hits.
~BB
Posted by dog on :
Sure BB... what's your number? LOL
See everyone at 2:30!
Posted by glassman on :
we should be able to get a look at the short interest from the 10th of Aug on Thursday. at this site here:
NASD Rule 3360 has been expanded to require NASD member firms to report their short positions on all over-the-counter ("OTC") equity securities to NASD Regulation, on a monthly basis. Once the short position reports are received, the short interest is then compiled for each OTC security. Firms are required to report their short positions as of settlement on the 15th of each month, or the preceding business day if the 15th is not a business day. The reports must be filed by the second business day after the reporting settlement date. The short interest data is compiled and provided for publication on the 8th business day after the reporting settlement date.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: thx Tex got it.
and we reiterate... WINCH IS CLEAN ...now remove the cuffs and let 'im go on 'is way...
good night, wake me up if Chart's news hits.
~BB
roger, that...
you want the cuffs back--fine... no prob Posted by trade04 on :
wooo Hooo right ON!
Posted by cassity on :
Hey if anyone ever needs some comic relief, stop by IHUB(CSHD) thread! This was great, no relevance just LMAO!
Posted by: serfdom In reply to: n00b_101 who wrote msg# 52626 Date:8/23/2006 2:12:44 AM Post #of 52644
Sweet! But allow me to correct your grammar:
"heres a fact your a jackass"
Well, it's a good start. But I count at least five errors in a six-word sentence. it shoud read:
Here's a fact, you're a jackass.
Practice your punctuation and possesives, and then maybe we can try another post.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning Board.
Yesterday I set out with some of your help to try to get an oversea account that shorted Pennystocks, well let me tell you what I found out
First, all these places have to conform to the same rules of the game that we do, they don't get to do things we can't! I know talk is cheap so all links and numbers are provided...
Let's start right here before we go over seas... 1-800-669-3900 TD Ameritrade (24/7) Called and asked about their shorting policy.
Q. Can I short Penny stocks? A. Yes, as long as they are a 1 "marginable stock" and that there are 2 "shares to borrow available" and 3 they MUST be at least $2.50 in price. Any OTCBB stock is NOT a "marginable security" but any NYSE or NASD stock most likely is...
*note, must meet all 3 criteria
Now it's Schwabs turn. 1-866-232-9890
Q. Can I short Pennystocks with you? A. "As long as the Pennystocks are "marginable" (OTCBB = NOT marginable) and they have to be at least $2.50 in price. If they are below $2.50 it doesn't pay to short them because there is a $2.50 PER SHARE FEE plus commissions to do so, so shorting a dollar penny stock would cost you commissions + $2.50 PER SHARE." <--That's a quote from Schwab!! 1-866-232-9890!
Q. Can I short CSHD, is it a marginable security? A. "Just a minute.... -No it is not a marginable security." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- That my dear fellow traders is straight from the horses mouth!
So that letter Schwab sent out has NOTHING to do with selling shares to short sellers right now! Period!!! 1-866-232-9890 Call them! 24 hours a day!!! That's what they said, in fact he looked it up and read it to me, word for word!!!
So........ What's up with the letter from Schwab?...
Perhaps Schwab is one of the institutions Rufus is talking with, maybe thay are preparing themselves for a IPO open at $15 or higher of CSHD and preparing for short selling THEN? -Or are they covering naked shorts from when CSHD was trading and none of us had our certs and Rufus was holding the float??? Is that what Rufus meant by saying unstitutions will be lined up to buy? -to cover the naked sharts?
I don't know ~ Just thinking out loud with that part.
Pure and simple, if Schwab doesn't need the shares NOW to cover short selling, -then why the letter asking to borrow shares???? That is a dang good question!
I do believe that there are Naked Shorts to be covered from when our shares were froze. Those days when millions of shares were traded, -where did they come from if Rufus has the float???? Is this why the price manipulation with our Share price is happening??
Let's explore the NASD Rule 3350 for short selling now shall we
This link will take you to the natorious "Cayman islands" where money laundering is openly talked about and is a big no no -wink-wink, yeah riiiiiiiight ~
Look under "short selling" they list that...
"In order to sell securities of which you do not own, (i.e. short sale), per NASD Rule 3350, you can only sell on an uptick where the current bid is higher then the previous sell."
"How do you short stocks? The Uptick Rule for shorting stocks requires that a stock be on an uptick before a stock can be shorted (See item #10 for more on this rule). A stock must also be available to short. TurboTrade publishes its list of shortable stocks every day, which can be checked. If the stock you desire is not on the list, we can usually locate a borrowable stock. The software will prevent you from shorting a non-borrowable stock as well."
TDAmeritrade and Schwab called them "marginable" here they are called "borrowable."
They mention a "list" to choose from.
*note that they quote Nasd rules, why? Because they have to comply with them JUST LIKE WE DO!!!
"NASD Rule 3350 governs short sales in NNM securities traded on Nasdaq. In general, Rule 3350 prohibits NASD member firms from effecting short sales (for customer or proprietary accounts) in NNM securities at or below the current inside bid whenever that bid is lower than the previous inside bid. NASD Rule 3350 is designed to prevent the market price of NNM securities from being manipulated downward by unrestricted short selling."
"NASD Rule 3350(k)(1) -- which incorporates by reference SEC Rule 3b-3 -- defines the term "short sale" and establishes the method for determining whether a firm is "net long" or "net short." As you note, aggregation currently must be based on a netting of securities positions in all proprietary accounts as determined at least once each trading day.3 Therefore, unless an exemption or other form of relief is available, firms must aggregate all positions in a security within the firm."
Hence the Schwab letter covering naked shorts.... "?"
So.......
What have we learned?...
First that it's BS that over seas accounts can short any penny stock they want to, the "Pennystock" by definition is a stock under $5.00 but to short a penny stock it...
(1) -must be at least trading at $2.50 or more
[confirmed by TD Ameritrade and Schwab]
(2) -Marginable, OTCBB stocks I was told are not.
[confirmed by TDAmeritrade and Schwab]
(3) - Shares must be available by the Broker to borrow.
[ditto again]
So no, these idoits that come in here and say they are shorting this thing are damn liars! The closest that I was able to come to shorting CSHD was Schwab and he said it isn't worth it with the $2.50 PER SHARE fee on top of the commission fee!!!!!!!!!
So if a dollar stock went down 100% to ZERO you would be in the hole 150% + commissions yet!!!
We also learned that it is a myth that over seas accounts can short a Pennystock any more then we can!
The next time you hear someone say that they are shorting a Penny stock that is UNDER $2.50 ask them what broker they are useing!! LOL!!!! BS!!!!
If they give you a broker call or email them and ask like I did and you'll get the same $2.50 answer! PERIOD!!!
So our enemy isn't these pretend clowns, if anything it's naked shortening MM's.
At best, these "clowns" that say they are shorting the stock are (1) hot air blowers and/or (2) "smart" (is that the right word?! ha) traders who bash so they can buy shares at a cheap cheap price or (3) bad Flippers driving a good stock down for better flip$.
NASD Rule 3360 has been expanded to require NASD member firms to report their short positions on all over-the-counter ("OTC") equity securities to NASD Regulation, on a monthly basis. Once the short position reports are received, the short interest is then compiled for each OTC security.
This DOES NOT MEAN short selling stocks, but rather they are "short" the stocks...[According to Schwab, I'm just writting what I found out]
"Therefore, unless an exemption or other form of relief is available, firms must aggregate all positions in a security within the firm."
The firm must have a written plan of organization that identifies each Aggregation Unit, specifies its trading objective, and supports its independent identity.4
Each Aggregation Unit within the firm must continuously determine, on a real-time basis, its net position for every security that it trades that is subject to NASD Rule 3350.
At least once per day, the firm must reconcile the net positions of all the Aggregation Units with the firm's net position.
Hence the letter from Schwab would fall under:
"Therefore, unless an exemption or other form of relief is available, firms must aggregate all positions in a security within the firm."
Real life example that "Short Interest" reports are not about short selling:
DENVER, CO, Aug 16, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Summus Works, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: SMMW) and ********** announced the following updated coverage of SMMW trade statistics by ********** after releasing the latest short sale data to August 2006. Previous releases under-reported the total trade volume and approximate total short volume due to statistical deficiencies involving massive amounts of SMMW trade data. From January 2005 to August 2006 approximately 121.46 billion total aggregate shares of SMMW have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $17.55 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 9.35 billion shares.
This isn't a report of 9.35 BILLION Shorted shares... it's the number of shorts that must be covered. (naked?)
SMMW stock is trading at .0001
Who in there right mind would short 9.35 BILLION shares of this at Schwab at $2.50 a share!!!!!!!?????
I Challenge anyone to find a broker who will short SMMW at .0001 or CSHD or any other stock below $2.50! Can't be done because it isn't "marginable" according to Schwab, and if there is one I could not find it.
Call Schwab....... 1-866-232-9890
And if you could Schwab said it would cost you $2.50 PER SHARE, so how the heck do you make over $2.50 (+ commissions) on a stock trading at .0001 by shorting it!!!!!!
Again... the above "Real Life Example" IS NOT about short selling 9.3 Billion shares of SMMW, the books had "short Interest" of that amount...
http:// otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
Is a site about "Short Interest" and NOT shorting stocks.
"NASD Rule 3360 has been expanded to require NASD member firms to report their short positions on all over-the-counter ("OTC") equity securities..."
"They" haven't shorted penny stocks....
That is why this list has value, because the books need to be balanced, and as long as we (CSHD) are on this list, then we can expect the price to be driven down as they "balance the books" if you will...
It's almost 2:30 am now, gonna get some rest been on this all day long and my head needs a rest but wanted to share this with you all.
Did my best, hope this enlightens ~
PLEASE do DD on this, make the calls, read the sites and let's make sure every "T" is crossed here. I don't want any human error on my behalf to filter through.
I have written what I was told when I called...
After I post this I'll look to make sure the links are there, I put a space in them, take that out. Otherwise I'll repost them quick.
I'm spent ~
G-Night...
Chart.
Posted by a surfer on :
You da man Chartwalker!! Very Informative..I am going to talk to my local Schwab accountant tomorrow and dig into this letter. One of the guys has done the family investing for years. There has got to be a reason.
Posted by dog on :
Well more work to do.... excellent Chart, excellent...
Posted by sceptor on :
So I guess chartwalker is suggesting that no one has shorted the stock? Or is he just assuming individuals are not shorting the stock?
buyinz.net places the short at 16+ million, and their estimate is generally accepted to be only 1/2 to 1/3 of the actual short number. Thats 16 - 48 million shares. Nasdaq has had them on their SHO list for weeks now.
So if no one is shorting, where did these numbers come from? His premise, the past. Exactly how is it possible to short an otc stock in the past but impossible to do it now?
If I have misunderstood your post let me know. But it seems you have contradicted yourself.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Wow..thanks Chart...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: So I guess chartwalker is suggesting that no one has shorted the stock? Or is he just assuming individuals are not shorting the stock?
buyinz.net places the short at 16+ million, and their estimate is generally accepted to be only 1/2 to 1/3 of the actual short number. Thats 16 - 48 million shares. Nasdaq has had them on their SHO list for weeks now.
So if no one is shorting, where did these numbers come from? His premise, the past. Exactly how is it possible to short an otc stock in the past but impossible to do it now?
If I have misunderstood your post let me know. But it seems you have contradicted yourself.
You misunderstood me I think. Those numbers at buyinz. net are correct...-but "WHAT" those numbers are is being misunderstood. Those numbers are "short interest" or short in the books as it was explained to me. Those numbers have nothing to do with short selling those stocks. Instead the stock is just "short." -from nake shorting perhaps?
Let me repeat for clearity....
"I COULD NOT find a broker WORLDWIDE where I could open an account to short a Penny stock below $2.50 because they aren't "marginable" and don't comply with NASD rules, PERIOD.
Call the Schwab # I posted, he'll tell you the same thing... They're open 24 hours a day 7 days a week.
Let someone bring fourth their broker here if they are shorting ANY penny stock BELOW $2.50!! Help me open an account, ha! Won't be done! Not today, not tomorrow ~
OPEN CHALLENGE TO THIS BOARD AND IT'S MEMBERS, find a broker to short sell Penny's trading under $2.50 with and post them here.
Check it out, call Schwab what are you waiting for?
Peace ~
Posted by Lindy1401 on :
I am taking it that Chart is saying that NO INDIVIDUAL can short this stock thru a broker in the US or offshore. That the shorts are all nakid shorts...period. These aren't individuals because it can't happen with a stock under $2.50. That being the case we are fighting city hall directly....not an easy fight...but sometimes it has to happen. I hope we are the test case that finally breaks it open...but there are a bunch of others...JPHC/PAIV/PAVC...SMMW...I would imagine to some extent most of the pennys have been ripped to hell by nakid shorting for years...this could be one of those things that tears the economy up so badly if it were to be opened up that it never will. People make deals to "protect" us that just happen to benefit the big guys more. The way of the country...what a trip. But...the best game in town that I have found. I don't want to take all their money...just drop me a few scraps. Lindy
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK I understand you now. For what it's worth someone has said they are with ameritrade canada, and was told they could short the stock if they so choose. I dont know if thats true or not, if anyone is with them call and see.
You seemed to have only grazed the surface of the seedier side of the market too which is fine (the caymens, etc..), but I think they are a significant player in shorting just the same. You may want to ask some of the mods on HSM about overseas shorting and the relative ease of doing so with the pennies, they are well versed in it. Maybe I can convince one of them to do a short story on their knowledge of it and drag it over here. I think it would help to see the dark side for what it really is.
Definitely it is known the MM's can and do short pennies into hell. Think not? Consider IPRE then. When they announced the R/S a couple months ago, they MM's began shorting it because they knew it would all sweep right under the rug. Problem was the pres. came out and recanted the R/S and the MM's out of retribution simply cut off trading of the stock for individuals unless you were selling. The pres. has since come back in line with the MM's and has reengaged the R/S to keep the peace with them. So it definitely happens.
Posted by dog on :
You can't short... I can't short. The MM's have shorted 16 plus million!
They are controlling the PPS with no float.
With less than 2.5 million trading a day, with a good chunk being mirror trades, or trades between MM's..... somebody is in trouble!
They haven't started to panic yet... but it's coming.
Posted by coalkickin on :
means stocks were traded that did not exist...good thing for us
Posted by dog on :
There's blood in the water... and the sharks are coming.....
Hey what's this fin on my back? Why are my teeth so sharp? Hmmmm
Posted by Synastar on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: There's blood in the water... and the sharks are coming.....
Hey what's this fin on my back? Why are my teeth so sharp? Hmmmm
Dog shark!
...and Chartwalker, you have gone above and beyond yet again. Thanks!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Lindy1401: I am taking it that Chart is saying that NO INDIVIDUAL can short this stock thru a broker in the US or offshore. That the shorts are all nakid shorts...period... I hope we are the test case that finally breaks it open... Lindy
That's THE KICKER!!!!
Is this how Rufus is going to NAIL THE SHORTS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess what I think!
If this is the deal... then short books are having time to balance, -at a premium price! How many shares did Sceptor say were said to be shorted at that site?!!! And if they don't buy it now they can buy at $15 a share then!
Rufus said WE'RE driving the boat remember?!
So... the books have to be balanced, they can buy a $100,000,000.00 dollars worth now (just a figure there, I did no math to get that number) or balance the books later at $15 or more per share.
And everday the deadline comes closer, can you hear Rufus laughing?!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
btw.. Thanks for saying thanks, running on little to no sleep today but worth it Posted by RyanPBF on :
good work chart. This thing get's crazier by the day.
Posted by dog on :
Me too Chart... I was up all night double checking yer DD....
It's the only way I can see it.
The short list don't lie...
We figured out who is holding shorts.
Schwab is making money on this opportunity.
This may be one of the deals... "the shorts will have a chance to cover"
I think we answered the question about who would want to buy our shares, you think?
Posted by djg7 on :
Chart, you signed off at 2:45 AM CST and checked in at 7:14 AM CST. I know this is huge but please don't try to burn out of both ends of the candle. You're way too valuable around here. Take care of yourself.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Sceptor, yes on Darkside stuff, FULLY agree with you!...
I was just pointing out that it's the MM's there (na HERE!), not short sellers who are the "Bad guys."
But thanks to that fairly new SEC ruling, places like Buyinz .net exist now and get to look in doors that where once locked! Read Buyinz. net disclosure statement about what they do, how they do it and why they can.
Posted by dog on :
Chart you da man... 5 stars to you!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: btw.. Thanks for saying thanks, running on little to no sleep today but worth it
Yea, my suggestion now is to take a nap there Chart. Good job digging, great job posting....get some rest. Posted by 10of13 on :
chart..the board has spoken...go sleep!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: Chart, you signed off at 2:45 AM CST and checked in at 7:14 AM CST. I know this is huge but please don't try to burn out of both ends of the candle. You're way too valuable around here. Take care of yourself.
lol.. Tried sleeping -didn't work!
Not everyday you take down a well known stock "myth"
"I feel Freak'n GREAT!!!!" LOL ~
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Sceptor, yes on Darkside stuff, FULLY agree with you!...
I was just pointing out that it's the MM's there (na HERE!), not short sellers who are the "Bad guys."
But thanks to that fairly new SEC ruling, places like Buyinz .net exist now and get to look in doors that where once locked! Read Buyinz. net disclosure statement about what they do, how they do it and why they can.
cool we are actually saying the same thing then. I believe as well the real problem is the MM's. There could be some shorting from overseas accounts by individuals, but I dont think they are the driving force behind this one either.
Posted by dog on :
No doubt... too many shorts for individuals to amass without ridiculous funding...
Posted by trade04 on :
i woke up and remembered chart's big story right away, i thought the guy would still be sleeping! that was around 8:00. poor guy
Posted by trade04 on :
shorts covering today watch because bashers were out in small force yesturday imo, buy up the cheap shares!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus saying "Buy the crap out of it..." NOW really makes me laugh knowing this ~
No kidding he wants us to buy for the pressure it will cause, and no wonder why he doesn't want "short term" investors like he has mentioned, cause once the IPO hits the squeeze starts and unless we can be DUPED into selling by a staged selloff by the MM's when CSHD resets, this thing will ROCK! IMO
"The Perfect Storm"
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Rufus saying "Buy the crap out of it..." NOW really makes me laugh knowing this ~
No kidding he wants us to buy for the pressure it will cause, and no wonder why he doesn't want "short term" investors like he has mentioned, cause once the IPO hits the squeeze starts and unless we can be DUPED into selling by a staged selloff by the MM's when CSHD resets, this thing will ROCK! IMO
"The Perfect Storm"
did rufus really say that?!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
I'm hoping to pick up at least 1/3rd more today. And my last 3rd tomorrow and Fri.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Gapping down....
Posted by trade04 on :
glad i'm here mostly for this deal...cuz if i wasnt id be pissed now lol
Posted by bigstocks on :
Nice 29,200 buy
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Chart good post read it last night and DD you work a bit and then took a step back and finally got a glimpse of the big picture.
If the MM's are controlling the price, da lemon and da bashers are working for the MM's, everything we trade goes through the MM, and Rufas claims that some of the same MM's that were involved with BBAN are involved here.
Is it no safe to say, "They are driving the boat." The only way and I repeat only way for us to upset them is to hold our shares till they are legally forced to cover. We are talking one of the most concerted efforts of Shareholder strike-back ever.
And looking at the volume I think we are right in the middle of it. Other than a few flippers, and shakes I have repeatedly heard people including myself say there is nothing that could seperate me from my shares. If this is truely the case then +80% of the volume we currently see has to be the short position owned by the MM's just trading back and forth trying to shake out real shares to cover.
This keeps up it is going to get real ugly. The MM's have already played the da lemon card and I do not know what else they have up their sleeves but I think it is time to really dig into any questionalbe, speculative, or possibly false accusations from any source. Because the MM are in this squeeze and they are holding all the cards.
Getting into my pyramid now... {paranoia setting in...} Posted by betting babe on :
Chartwalker, you should be a reporter! excellent DD, thank you!
good morning peeps
~BB
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
.16 holding up nicely and the tic is up... DO NOT give the Shorties a break buy selling... they are going to shake this tree today trying to cover and make it close below .14... Let the Short squeeze comence! And Let our portfolio's get bloated with green!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Crap sorry... Wrong board That's for WWEN LOL But Hey let comence here too LOL!!! P.S. Thanks for the reasearch Chart.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
college are you posting on the right board. Did you just put the wrong pps down?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Chartwalker, you should be a reporter! excellent DD, thank you!
good morning peeps
~BB
that coming from you, wow... Thanks Posted by dog on :
It's a standoff... who's gonna blink?
I'm just closing my eyes....
Posted by RyanPBF on :
they're going to start taking it down. By the looks of it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Chartwalker, you should be a reporter! excellent DD, thank you!
good morning peeps
~BB
that coming from you, wow... Thanks
It was definitely good work Chart. Like I said it gave me the big picture on what is happening on this share price. MM's can't afford to let this price go, nor do they have too unless pressure is exerted beyond their control. LIKE A MASSIVE PR RUFAS??? or a 10K supporting all your PRs
Posted by trade04 on :
has anyone spoken to harris or anyone else? any new info?
Posted by new2stocks on :
Wow Chart, great work.....don't burn yourself out! Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Chart...Thank you for the good work and analysis....gave ya 5 stars.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Wow Chart, great work.....don't burn yourself out!
I got a "Wow" out of New2stocks too... Thx!
Every dog has his day Maybe I should buy a lotto ticket today too!!! lol ~
Posted by dog on :
We been watching level 2's for weeks... mirror buys, small volume signals... manipulation at its finest.
They are going to crush the PPS... the question is:
Will the shareholders cave in?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
last few trades are mirror trades.
Posted by luvforever on :
good morning great work CHART!! anyone see post52778 on ihub? talks about pegasus short squeeze of the stock!! Its a great read
Posted by new2stocks on :
Paltalk had an interview with CFO Mr. Horton this morning. I missed most of it, but it was stated that they expect to release the 10k in mid Sept.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Paltalk had an interview with CFO Mr. Horton this morning. I missed most of it, but it was stated that they expect to release the 10k in mid Sept.
I dont know if this is true or not but im not at all surprised. Something official letting us all know that would be great.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
If that is the case I think there will be a lot more flipping going on. No one will be worried about getting left out.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Paltalk had an interview with CFO Mr. Horton this morning. I missed most of it, but it was stated that they expect to release the 10k in mid Sept.
September? Just gives us time to buy MORE!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes: Chart...Thank you for the good work and analysis....gave ya 5 stars.
Me too...Here's 5 stars. Good work Chart!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
It would be good to know somekind of timeline New2stocks, thanks.
Cause this day to day stuff is Rolaid hell!! ha ~
And I don't know if the MM's can really crash this baby either, with all the "noise" it has created don't you think the SEC would be watching?
Isn't that their job?
This has had to had ran passed the ears of the SEC only like every stinking day now -you would think ~ JMO
Posted by trade04 on :
strange that no1 else heard it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!as far as im concerned its still anyones game...
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning Board!
Great job chart!!
Just a thought ... if these are mm's doing their thing and they are trying to cover by shaking the tree, this tells me that the "store" is still open and they are trying to drive the price down (which we have all been seeing)... this makes the pps attractive to buyers and those who buy are actually multiplying the MM short problem. Of all the shares transacted, I wonder, how many are real?
From back in the pages of this board, I believe it was reported that FHAL was short 4.8m at 0.15 pps. With all this since, this looks huge to me! Thanks again chart! Lesson to me: Take advantage!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Mid September...??? 3 weeks...when that word "spreads"...this will drop even more...don't see it going much below the mid 40's...but peeps will take their money else where and "play" it to get profits...come back in 2-3 weeks to start buying it back...IMO...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Mid September...??? 3 weeks...when that word "spreads"...this will drop even more...don't see it going much below the mid 40's...but peeps will take their money else where and "play" it to get profits...come back in 2-3 weeks to start buying it back...IMO...
id confirm that before spreading it only one person reported hearing it...kind of suspicious...
he also said "he missed most of it" almost to deter any questions about what else he spoke about to prove his story is str8. hOW CONVINIENT
Posted by new2stocks on :
Correction, there was not an interview I guess, just a phone call to Mr. Horton....sorry, someone is giving out false information.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
False info as in Mr.Horton never said that?
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Correction, there was not an interview I guess, just a phone call to Mr. Horton....sorry, someone is giving out false information.
probably a short!!
Posted by dog on :
It's okay.... this board will keep it straight.... while still being polite and respectful... kudos to us Posted by RyanPBF on :
Everything was just running nice and Nite cuts the ask down. As soon as the bid started to climb.
Posted by Goodones on :
This looks like the MMs are doing block trades to cover naked shorts. Anybody see this too?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Where were we getting stuck at yesterday couldn't get over .78 correct it was pretty good buys at .77 and then 200 at .78 and we'd fall back down correct?
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: This looks like the MMs are doing block trades to cover naked shorts. Anybody see this too?
who cares im gonna be rich via 10k lol
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I have a question. I always found it funny. When the same MM was on the bid and the ask. What does this accomplish. It gives the appearance that they are selling to themselves. Is this true. Just a question if anybody has any idea. TIA
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: This looks like the MMs are doing block trades to cover naked shorts. Anybody see this too?
I am seeing plain double numbers (mirrior trades) even possible split ones too, like 5000 then 2000 + 3000...
Posted by luvforever on :
Does this mean we should buy more? LOL or would we have phantom shares? Just a q? Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
awesome stuff chart...haha...that was like turning the fog lights on...it's still there...we can just see a little better now...
on a side note...anyone else using power etrade having trouble? for some reason I can't seem to populate my screen...it says the data is corrupt or not available...and not just for CSHD but for the program in general...I'M NOT SAYING I'M HAVING PROBLEMS WITH CSHD...just wanted to clear that up...
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Lindy1401: I am taking it that Chart is saying that NO INDIVIDUAL can short this stock thru a broker in the US or offshore. That the shorts are all nakid shorts...period... I hope we are the test case that finally breaks it open... Lindy
That's THE KICKER!!!!
Is this how Rufus is going to NAIL THE SHORTS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guess what I think!
If this is the deal... then short books are having time to balance, -at a premium price! How many shares did Sceptor say were said to be shorted at that site?!!! And if they don't buy it now they can buy at $15 a share then!
Rufus said WE'RE driving the boat remember?!
So... the books have to be balanced, they can buy a $100,000,000.00 dollars worth now (just a figure there, I did no math to get that number) or balance the books later at $15 or more per share.
And everday the deadline comes closer, can you hear Rufus laughing?!!!
Great DD and work. I appreciate it.
I hope someone can help me here. How can the MM's cover 16Million shares that don't exist if the information we have been given is correct(Float 23M). It would mean that just about every one owning CSHD would have to sell.
Take the case of SLJB. According tofigures released by the company the true public float is 18M. They also believe that 200M to 300M are short.
How in the world can those 18M shares every be stretched to cover that many naked shorts?
GLTA Wally
Posted by dog on :
We never have phantom shares.....
Posted by dog on :
We never shorted.... if you waited for your certs to clear.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yeap, by law "someone" has to pick up those shares and balance the books!
Looks like both stocks will be ones to watch and learn from...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Does this mean we should buy more? LOL or would we have phantom shares? Just a q?
Buy them!!! They will have to cover at what ever price we decide to sell them back to them at. Posted by Chartwalker on :
Maybe Schwab is borrowing shares to sell later to them and make a profit on!... -and pay back the holders with their interest...
Hmmmm, yeah that works!... JMO How else could or would Schwab make $$$ on them? I can only think of one other way, that's to have shares to actual short sell AFTER the Price reset.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Does this mean we should buy more? LOL or would we have phantom shares? Just a q?
Buy them!!! They will have to cover at what ever price we decide to sell them back to them at.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac: ]
Great DD and work. I appreciate it.
I hope someone can help me here. How can the MM's cover 16Million shares that don't exist if the information we have been given is correct(Float 23M). It would mean that just about every one owning CSHD would have to sell.
Take the case of SLJB. According tofigures released by the company the true public float is 18M. They also believe that 200M to 300M are short.
How in the world can those 18M shares every be stretched to cover that many naked shorts?
GLTA Wally [/QUOTE]
The way that I understand it...the MM that actually shorted the stock...will have to buy the "true" stock back..."he" has to wait for someone to sell it...at the price that they want it for...and after time...the price "should" get driven up...as long as the MM's don't think that they can "get away" with "passing off" a naked short...
IMO..part of the problem here in Penny land is that VERY few peeps...buy and hold a stock...well if very few are going to buy and hold...MM's KNOW that and they aren't concerned about having to "prove" they actually have the stock...just fake it...and "pawn" it off to the next buyer that will only "keep it" for a couple of days...kinda like "robbing Peter to pay Paul"
IMO..one of the reasons that Rufas said to "get the certificates"...Getting the certs puts more of a squeeeeezzzze...on the shorts....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: This keeps up it is going to get real ugly. The MM's have already played the da lemon card and I do not know what else they have up their sleeves but I think it is time to really dig into any questionalbe, speculative, or possibly false accusations from any source. Because the MM are in this squeeze and they are holding all the cards.
Is it taboo to quote yourself... it is faster than typing it again. Unless you hear the conversation with Horton yourself don't believe it.
Posted by Goodones on :
Thats right Taxback, the only way they can cover is when we sell them our shares. Sooner or later after all the weak hands have folded the MMs will be after our shares. Then we name the price we will sell them for. It is us that is in control now!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
And to make the squeeze work better then folks shouldn't loan out their shares right?
Posted by dog on :
So even on my Scottrade margin account... I'm safe even if they lent them out?
Scottrade told me they don't lend shares on pinks.
I am going into the office today and turning it into a cash account as I never margin.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I thought New2stocks said that it was discredited...
Posted by thecon00 on :
Awesome work Chart!!!
MM will have to cover at some point, just ride it out.
If anyone is interested in the UN (military)/Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation/Adnan Sakli/CSHD connection this is a great article and shows why Adnan my want to be involved w CSHD to strengthen UN and their hopes of liberating his Turk’s as someone mentioned.
It has not been proven... disregard...
Posted by Greenboy on :
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: Thats right Taxback, the only way they can cover is when we sell them our shares. Sooner or later after all the weak hands have folded the MMs will be after our shares. Then we name the price we will sell them for. It is us that is in control now!
$15 sound like a good price to me!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
10of13 said IMO..part of the problem here in Penny land is that VERY few peeps...buy and hold a stock...well if very few are going to buy and hold...MM's KNOW that and they aren't concerned about having to "prove" they actually have the stock...just fake it...and "pawn" it off to the next buyer that will only "keep it" for a couple of days...kinda like "robbing Peter to pay Paul"
I think you hit that Right On The Head! When you flip flop (which I do do) there is no one held accountable, right on 10, they just pass it to the next guy and that's why we always see these huge dollar "short" amounts.
Posted by thecon00 on :
DOG-
I did see from an earlier post that the HSWF is a NGO of the UN no?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Chart...even with all of the work that you did...I still believe that "there are ways" and there are Peeps that short the Pennies..."we" blaim the MM's...BUT...these MM's are doing it for somebody...and IF you have enough money...or know the right people...shorting the stock can be done...the MM's ARE WORKING for someone...IMO...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Dog I also have a Margin account and never buy on Margin. The only reason I use it was so I didn't have to wait 3days for my money to clear so I could trade again. Has anyone requested their certs?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
but didn't Chart discover that it is against the "rules" for an individual to short something under $2.50?
doesn't that in itself prove that the MM's/people working for the MM's are the responsible parties?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: 10of13 said IMO..part of the problem here in Penny land is that VERY few peeps...buy and hold a stock...well if very few are going to buy and hold...MM's KNOW that and they aren't concerned about having to "prove" they actually have the stock...just fake it...and "pawn" it off to the next buyer that will only "keep it" for a couple of days...kinda like "robbing Peter to pay Paul"
I think you hit that Right On The Head! When you flip flop (which I do do) there is no one held accountable, right on 10, they just pass it to the next guy and that's why we always see these huge dollar "short" amounts.
...and every transaction restarts the 13-day clock
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
...and every transaction restarts the 13-day clock
but is there a running total? I mean is there a first in first out or last in first out tab that is running on that 13-day clock?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Chart...even with all of the work that you did...I still believe that "there are ways" and there are Peeps that short the Pennies..."we" blaim the MM's...BUT...these MM's are doing it for somebody...and IF you have enough money...or know the right people...shorting the stock can be done...the MM's ARE WORKING for someone...IMO...
I actually agree with you, they are the puppets, but this so called huge army of short sellers over seas or here is a bunch of crap! NOT JIMO. Proved it ~
We see only the "pencils' writing" (MM's) and not the hand that is actually do it.....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Chart...even with all of the work that you did...I still believe that "there are ways" and there are Peeps that short the Pennies..."we" blaim the MM's...BUT...these MM's are doing it for somebody...and IF you have enough money...or know the right people...shorting the stock can be done...the MM's ARE WORKING for someone...IMO...
I knew this was a "theory"; have we proven this?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Chart...even with all of the work that you did...I still believe that "there are ways" and there are Peeps that short the Pennies..."we" blaim the MM's...BUT...these MM's are doing it for somebody...and IF you have enough money...or know the right people...shorting the stock can be done...the MM's ARE WORKING for someone...IMO...
I have to disagree here. the MM's are doing it because they can as part of their duty as Market Maker. Not for anyone else in general. They just use their deep pockets and pick up a little more than what is out there at a low price and sell a little more than what is out there on a high price just to pad their pockets a bit on each deal. Problem for them is at the end of the day they have to balance and they are comming up with shares that don't exist.
Usually it is a good bet that what ever goes up will come down, but in this case the price has not returned, Gap filled higher ahd the PPS kept going up. They short a bit more to cover and low and behold it raises again. This is when they start orchestrating the rumors and speculation. (i.e. Manipulation) They put themselves in this position and when the SEC comes knocking at the end of SHO. Their seats as an MM are on the line.
I think the individual Private investor is out of this unless they are dealing secretly with an MM on their own. Handing them money to trade for them, which is highly illegal.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: but didn't Chart discover that it is against the "rules" for an individual to short something under $2.50?
doesn't that in itself prove that the MM's/people working for the MM's are the responsible parties?
Yes, but "WHY" does it happen.... Some how someone is making green, don't you think?
Why even do this in the first place if this always happens?!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Nope no "proof" Tex...How do you get anyone to admit that they are "breaking" rules...as Chart said..he "has shown" that it isn't allowed...
Tell me...know anyone that smokes pot? Know anyone that "speeds"? Do they always "get caught? Is it "allowed"? Same "type" of thing...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't know anyone that speeds while smoking pot . Another thing that's popping up at Ihub is the need for an 8k to be filed today. To show the new bond anyone have anything on this.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
...and every transaction restarts the 13-day clock
but is there a running total? I mean is there a first in first out or last in first out tab that is running on that 13-day clock?
somewhere within DTC...but every "block" that trades, each time, new clock before FTD. Frankly, I have no idea how DTC can claim to be keeping up. eg, when I play these geek-r/s things--where 100 shares does *not* get reversed out--the DTC has to wait until the TA allocates shares. ok ok...but if the DTC is keeping the books? why can't they distribute on their own?
Posted by dog on :
Hey 10... nice analogy... LOL
Whoever is doing this is sweating alot more than I am right now!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Taxback states: I think the individual Private investor is out of this unless they are dealing secretly with an MM on their own. Handing them money to trade for them, which is highly illegal.
~If you have the funds...and/or know the right people...you can...and yes..it is still illegal...no anyone that speeds?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
PPS is holding pretty steady today eh?.. LOL ~~
Been told that post of mine has made it to other boards, good!
Someone will be eating more Rolaids the ME today!! ha ha ~~
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Nope no "proof" Tex...How do you get anyone to admit that they are "breaking" rules...as Chart said..he "has shown" that it isn't allowed...
Tell me...know anyone that smokes pot? Know anyone that "speeds"? Do they always "get caught? Is it "allowed"? Same "type" of thing...
You calling me a dope?
lol...
What Chart has found is what "brokers" do (or don't do), yes? Smoking pot/etc...no one "keeps book" on that. Or you're positing a "black market" whereby wealthy individual approaches MM and passes dough under the table?
Posted by dog on :
Chart... pardon my impertinence... I leaked it last night right after you posted it. Just testing iHub to see if they would notice or help out with the DD... Not until 10am this morning did they pay any attention to it...LOL
They never questioned it either... just ran with it... strange.
Posted by dog on :
I sat up all night testing out your theory... and I do believe you are correct sir.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
The reason I am getting more confident with the picture I am seeing is be becuase I DD the crud out of MOBL and I have an understanding of how Hedge Funds work. It is very similar to what Chart described and in fact proves the collusion that we are currently speculating.
Hedge Funds loan you money for shares. They also generally have one or more MM's in their pocket. As you borrow money and hand them thousands of shares they place large short positions on your stock. Then they proceed to dump the share you gave them into the market. They sell the shares which creates massive dilution of the stock and the increased share force the price of the stock down like a silent forward split. When that happens the Hedge Fund continues to make out from the short positions they placed on your company originally. They make their money back two fold.
This relationship proves the collusion, but still removes the private investor from the equation.
[ August 23, 2006, 11:34: Message edited by: TaxBack04 ]
Posted by 10of13 on :
Tex...you're not a dope...a turd...but not a dope...LOL!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: The reason I am getting more confident with the picture I am seeing is be becuase I DD the crud out of MOBL and I have an understanding of how Hedge Funds work. It is very similar to what Chart described and in fact proves the collusion that we are currently speculating.
Hedge Funds loan you money for shares. They also generally have one or more MM's in their pocket. As you borrow money and hand them thousands of shares they place large short positions on your stock. Then they proceed to dump the share you gave them into the market. The sell the shares which creates massive dilution of the stock and the increased share force the price of the stock down like a silent forward split. When that happens the Hedge Fund continues to make out from the short positions they placed on your company originally. They make their money back two fold.
This relationship proves the collusion, but still removes the private investor from the equation.
hedgies...Now that makes sense. Nothing restricts *any* company from private placement out of the treaury, eh? All they have to do is find a willing hedgie...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
NITE on bid and ask. This always looks odd to me an MM selling back to themselves.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yep Chart...seems your info is being passed along...see your "work" now has helped all...and maybe others will continue to dig...
Posted by T e x on :
Gee, thanks...
10 of Sweet Nothings... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Taxback states: I think the individual Private investor is out of this unless they are dealing secretly with an MM on their own. Handing them money to trade for them, which is highly illegal.
~If you have the funds...and/or know the right people...you can...and yes..it is still illegal...no anyone that speeds?
Oh I do not doubt that people do it. And yes I speed but not anywhere near the SEC or IRS buildings. LOL
I equate it to a trip I took to a casino when I was young. I had a stack of chips I had won but a buddy of mine ran through his money for the night and was ready to go. So I turned around and handed him a stack of chips, and was surprised that we were imediately thrown out of the casino by the pit boss. They have to track what people are betting and their winnings versus losses for tax purposes. Money under the table is a NO NO and a major red flag. MM's are granted the right to trade, by the SEC taking chances with this right is their bed to lay in.
Posted by dog on :
RRUUUNNNN!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
FORREST RRUUUNNN!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: RRUUUNNNN!!!
Yea, wtf was that?! Off to lunch, keep running! Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
awe man...not having my L2's is killing me!!!
what is going on?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
mad HOD of .82 retracing now back to .79
Posted by Goodones on :
This is the forth day since the new bond was announced. I think something has to be filed today on that. Am I wrong or what?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: awe man...not having my L2's is killing me!!!
what is going on?
we had a little run...but it seems to be stopping...
JMO...but when it just sits "swinging" between .71-.73 or so...and they seem to be Mirror trades...maybe it's no trades at all..and then when an actual real trade comes through..even a small one..makes it "move" quite a bit... ask at .79
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Double post sorry.
Posted by dog on :
Watch them "mirror" trade it back down. They want your shares... and cheap.
Posted by 10of13 on :
buys comin' in...
Posted by SherriT on :
I'm still looking for a downturn I WANT MORE!
Posted by Goodones on :
Only going up today. People who made cash on Friday's news and now use those funds to get back in. 3-day rule .90 close easy
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: This is the forth day since the new bond was announced. I think something has to be filed today on that. Am I wrong or what?
If PR after Midnight Friday, then Thursday would be deadline, due to 4 day rule
Posted by Hustla on :
Watch your streamer for those 500 block trades. Those MMs need cheap shares really badly. The numbers won't lie. Those blocks especially the mirror trades tell you exactly what they are doing. Trying to bring it down but investers aren't selling MMs are only selling between themselves because they don't have a choice.
They have to cover and when this thing explodes, shorts (MMs) are gonna run for the hills.
Posted by portman on :
Excellent work Chart! You also have a great style of writing that really conveyed the information well.
Once again, this is a place were ideas and hard work can be shared and discussed. That is what makes allstocks a valuable resource.
Thank You Chart and everyone else who has added comment.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: This is the forth day since the new bond was announced. I think something has to be filed today on that. Am I wrong or what?
If PR after Midnight Friday, then Thursday would be deadline, due to 4 day rule
4day rule?
Posted by dog on :
Stall.
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Stall.
They're hungry(MMs) and got no food(shares. So they're sharing crumbs(mirrors)
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Hustla:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Stall.
They're hungry(MMs) and got no food(shares. So they're sharing crumbs(mirrors)
cute
Posted by dog on :
I'm not trying to get my hopes up by any means... do you see EOD run here?
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: This is the forth day since the new bond was announced. I think something has to be filed today on that. Am I wrong or what?
If PR after Midnight Friday, then Thursday would be deadline, due to 4 day rule
Thanks Mnvestor...but in reading that I don't see that "they" need to fill it out...I could be missing something...
Posted by milliam on :
From mnvestor's link:
1. A report on this form is required to be filed or furnished, as applicable, upon the occurrence of any one or more of the events specified in the items in Sections 1 - 6 and 9 of this form. Unless otherwise specified, a report is to be filed or furnished within four business days after occurrence of the event. If the event occurs on a Saturday, Sunday or holiday on which the Commission is not open for business, then the four business day period shall begin to run on, and include, the first business day thereafter.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Goodones: Only going up today. People who made cash on Friday's news and now use those funds to get back in. 3-day rule .90 close easy
excellent point
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: From mnvestor's link:
1. A report on this form is required to be filed or furnished, as applicable, upon the occurrence of any one or more of the events specified in the items in Sections 1 - 6 and 9 of this form. Unless otherwise specified, a report is to be filed or furnished within four business days after occurrence of the event. If the event occurs on a Saturday, Sunday or holiday on which the Commission is not open for business, then the four business day period shall begin to run on, and include, the first business day thereafter.
Right...I saw that..but where does it say that this particular "bond" needs to have this filed???
If you look under letter G...it lists things that can be omitted...
Posted by mnvestor on :
I am think it would fall under this provision: Item 2.01 Completion of Acquisition or Disposition of Assets. If the registrant or any of its majority-owned subsidiaries has completed the acquisition or disposition of a significant amount of assets, otherwise than in the ordinary course of business, disclose the following information: (a) the date of completion of the transaction; (b) a brief description of the assets involved; (c) the identity of the person(s) from whom the assets were acquired or to whom they were sold and the nature of any material relationship, other than in respect of the transaction, between such person(s) and the registrant or any of its affiliates, or any director or officer of the registrant, or any associate of any such director or officer; (d) the nature and amount of consideration given or received for the assets and, if any material relationship is disclosed pursuant to paragraph (c) of this Item 2.01, the formula or principle followed in determining the amount of such consideration; (e) if the transaction being reported is an acquisition and if a material relationship exists between the registrant or any of its affiliates and the source(s) of the funds used in the acquisition, the identity of the source(s) of the funds unless all or any part of the consideration used is a loan made in the ordinary course of business by a bank as defined by Section 3(a)(6) of the Act, in which case the identity of such bank may be omitted provided the registrant: (1) has made a request for confidentiality pursuant to Section 13(d)(1)(B) of the Act; and (2) states in the report that the identity of the bank has been so omitted and filed separately with the Commission;and (f) if the registrant was a shell company, other than a business combination related shell company, as those terms are defined in Rule 12b-2 under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.12b-2), immediately before the transaction, the information that would be required if the registrant were filing a general form for registration of securities on Form 10 or Form 10-SB (17 CFR 249.210 or 17 CFR 249.210b), as applicable, under the Exchange Act reflecting all classes of the registrant’s securities subject to the reporting requirements of Section 13 (15 U.S.C. 78m) or Section 15(d) (15 U.S.C. 78o(d)) of such Act upon consummation of the transaction, with such information reflecting the registrant and its securities upon consummation of the transaction. Notwithstanding General Instruction B.3. to Form 8-K, if any disclosure required by this Item 2.01(f) is previously reported, as that term is defined in Rule 12b-2 under the Exchange Act (17 CFR 240.12b-2), the registrant may identify the filing in which that disclosure is included instead of including that disclosure in this report.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Wow, i wish i wasnt so friggin busy at work these days. There is soooo much more info pouring into this board this week! And here i thought "new stuff" had dried up.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Mnvestor it says... "If the registrant or any of its majority-owned subsidiaries has completed the acquisition or disposition of a significant amount of assets, otherwise than in the ordinary course of business"
otherwise than in the ordinary course of business"
isn't "this" what CSHD does? therefore...it would fall under ordinary business?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
thats what i'm thinking...since this IS a holdings company this is the type of thing that is going to happen during regular business...
Posted by mnvestor on :
10, Good point, I am not sure how they would be classified??
Posted by mnvestor on :
Although with this sentence "or disposition of a significant amount of assets", since the bond would be a significant % of total assets
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Mnvestor it says... "If the registrant or any of its majority-owned subsidiaries has completed the acquisition or disposition of a significant amount of assets, otherwise than in the ordinary course of business"
otherwise than in the ordinary course of business"
isn't "this" what CSHD does? therefore...it would fall under ordinary business?
"significant"
presumably? If it's significant enough to PR about--esp. changing the "valuation" of the company--it would qualify as "significant."
btw? from TCLL thread (Hot Stocks): [if] "...the stock was being illegally shorted by a brokerage "
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor: 10, Good point, I am not sure how they would be classified??
so since we aren't sure...we shouldn't "freak" if they don't file anything...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
mnvestor...of course that makes sense as well...just depends how the lawyer interprets it I suppose...
Posted by dog on :
It's a bit unclear whether they have to file anything... I guess we will find out.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
See that even 100 shares sale? means "i need shares" and up it went
Posted by sceptor on :
Just to follow up on the "impossible for individuals to short cshd" post earlier.
It seems it was mistaken in several areas.
1: TD Ameritrade does not require the pps to be higher than $2.50. None of their rules require anything like that. .
2: the stock must be marginable, it must be available to borrow, and you must meet the maintenance requirements for it. 100% for cshd, meaning as long as the pps keeps going up you must have 100% coverage available in cash in your account or they will call you.
however I do agree the real players are the MM's.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: See that even 100 shares sale? means "i need shares" and up it went
if that is what it meant...wouldn't it have gone down?
Posted by dog on :
just a theory... the little buys and mirror trades intrigue me...looking for patterns.
When an even 100 goes thru...they raise to entice shares.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Nah dog...I think they are just playin' "patty cake, patty cake..."...because they have nothing to do...no shares to trade...
Posted by dog on :
Probably... I have way too many hours in front of the screen... now I'm seeing things. Unfortunately I tend to be the idiot savant of pattern recognition, can't turn the mind off.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Oh Oh - there is a 688 share buy, he's having the Big Mac combo meal - jk Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Nah dog...I think they are just playin' "patty cake, patty cake..."...because they have nothing to do...no shares to trade...
Ill give em a few if they work it up just a bit higher. Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Oh Oh - there is a 688 share buy, he's having the Big Mac combo meal - jk
Thanks LOL... my credibility is shot here...hehe
It just eats at me as they mrirror trade this stock down every day.... likely this week was the shake from the cleared European certs.
Posted by luvforever on :
ok so i am honest i want to know if i have a scotrade account with 3 day hold should i get the certs or am i ok? tia i know i may soun stupid but any honest answers? Posted by dog on :
Positive pressure baby!
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: Oh Oh - there is a 688 share buy, he's having the Big Mac combo meal - jk
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted by milliam on :
Sceptor, although TDA might not require the 2.50 price, I'm positive that CSHD is not a marginable stock, therefore I would think you could not short it. Now, there are higher accounts than mine, that this might be allowed in. Anyways, I tried to short CSHD (at 1.00 mind you) and this is the message I received: You cannot short sell OTC Bulletin Board securities
Maybe this is just because I don't have the clout or the big funds in my account, but I think it would apply to most anyone.
Posted by luvforever on :
who here got theirs certs???? Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: ok so i am honest i want to know if i have a scotrade account with 3 day hold should i get the certs or am i ok? tia i know i may soun stupid but any honest answers?
I'm off right now to sit down in a Scottrade office... I should have answers soon...not leaving til I get them.
Any questions you want me to ask?
Posted by luvforever on :
thanks dog any info is appreciated Posted by milliam on :
luvforver...I honestly don't know. From what I hear, you'll be fine. Rufus would love for all of us to call for our certs, because that should put a huge squeeze on the shorts. I don't think there's anyway that any majority of the shareholders here would do that though.
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Sceptor, although TDA might not require the 2.50 price, I'm positive that CSHD is not a marginable stock, therefore I would think you could not short it. Now, there are higher accounts than mine, that this might be allowed in. Anyways, I tried to short CSHD (at 1.00 mind you) and this is the message I received: You cannot short sell OTC Bulletin Board securities
Maybe this is just because I don't have the clout or the big funds in my account, but I think it would apply to most anyone.
Scottrade told me the same thing... can't short OTC BB. Doesn't mean they can't lend em out... they say they don't allow it either.
I am going to get that in writing today at my Scottrade office... as well as other paper promises for key questions.
Posted by trade04 on :
wonder if the fact tha tpeople are putting thier shares under their name is causing even more buying pressure
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Sceptor, although TDA might not require the 2.50 price, I'm positive that CSHD is not a marginable stock, therefore I would think you could not short it. Now, there are higher accounts than mine, that this might be allowed in. Anyways, I tried to short CSHD (at 1.00 mind you) and this is the message I received: You cannot short sell OTC Bulletin Board securities
Maybe this is just because I don't have the clout or the big funds in my account, but I think it would apply to most anyone.
I have Scottrade, and their price limit for shorting is $4, however every single one of my positions, even the sub-pennies shows as marginable. FWIW...
Posted by luvforever on :
Maybe that is true I called scotrade and they said i dint need em but if this goes thru the roof i want to be sure i collect too i dont want to be left out...LOL Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Whatever the pressure is, its climbing niiiiiice and slow and niiiiice and steady. Every day it gets tighter and tighter. Flippers beware........
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Just to follow up on the "impossible for individuals to short cshd" post earlier.
It seems it was mistaken in several areas.
1: TD Ameritrade does not require the pps to be higher than $2.50. None of their rules require anything like that. .
2: the stock must be marginable, it must be available to borrow, and you must meet the maintenance requirements for it. 100% for cshd, meaning as long as the pps keeps going up you must have 100% coverage available in cash in your account or they will call you.
however I do agree the real players are the MM's.
Someone with an account call TD Ameritrade and find out if CSHD is "marginable" additionally what is the cost per share if it was marginable. I think Chart also explained that with a charge of $2.50 per share on short sales that is was not worth and investors time to try and drive it to zero.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Just to follow up on the "impossible for individuals to short cshd" post earlier.
It seems it was mistaken in several areas.
1: TD Ameritrade does not require the pps to be higher than $2.50. None of their rules require anything like that. .
2: the stock must be marginable, it must be available to borrow, and you must meet the maintenance requirements for it. 100% for cshd, meaning as long as the pps keeps going up you must have 100% coverage available in cash in your account or they will call you.
however I do agree the real players are the MM's.
Someone with an account call TD Ameritrade and find out if CSHD is "marginable" additionally what is the cost per share if it was marginable. I think Chart also explained that with a charge of $2.50 per share on short sales that is was not worth and investors time to try and drive it to zero.
Tax~I don't have a td ameritrade account but I did call them and ask them if CSHD was marginable and she said no it was not.....
FWIW
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Just to follow up on the "impossible for individuals to short cshd" post earlier.
It seems it was mistaken in several areas.
1: TD Ameritrade does not require the pps to be higher than $2.50. None of their rules require anything like that. .
2: the stock must be marginable, it must be available to borrow, and you must meet the maintenance requirements for it. 100% for cshd, meaning as long as the pps keeps going up you must have 100% coverage available in cash in your account or they will call you.
however I do agree the real players are the MM's.
Someone with an account call TD Ameritrade and find out if CSHD is "marginable" additionally what is the cost per share if it was marginable. I think Chart also explained that with a charge of $2.50 per share on short sales that is was not worth and investors time to try and drive it to zero.
Tax~I don't have a td ameritrade account but I did call them and ask them if CSHD was marginable and she said no it was not.....
FWIW
Yeah.. I guess you don't need an account to ask that question. Duh! thanks for making the call.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: .... Flippers beware........
Of?? So far I now have 700 free shares with the potential to be worth 10,500 dollars and I have to add I'm up 10% from those shares now.
I just meant, beware if flipping ALL of your shares. Ive bought blocks of 1000 shares the past few days and in all cases they came in segmented, never all 1000 at once. Things are getting tight so im just leary of playing around too much. There definately seems to be the opportunity to add to your position via flipping right now but as Rufus said, dont get caught with your pants down....or whatever it was he said. Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Lets roll!!! Check out the Aroon on the chart and you'll see where the green line is about to turn... Posted by RyanPBF on :
I have a TDA account. Awhile back I tried to put in a short order against CSHD. I did this because someone said that Ameritrade let you do it. When I tried to submit the transaction. It told me I couldn't short non marginable securities.
Posted by betting babe on :
that's easy. i already tried to buy on margin long ago, wouldnt let me. not for FHAL, not for CSHD.
you can place the trade, but then a notice comes up "funds are not available for a non-marginable stock your order cannot be placed".
i always do this when im waiting for funds to settle and cant tell what's avail. so i keep trying til i hit an order that goes thru LOL
it's been that way for all penny stocks.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Just to follow up on the "impossible for individuals to short cshd" post earlier.
It seems it was mistaken in several areas.
1: TD Ameritrade does not require the pps to be higher than $2.50. None of their rules require anything like that. .
2: the stock must be marginable, it must be available to borrow, and you must meet the maintenance requirements for it. 100% for cshd, meaning as long as the pps keeps going up you must have 100% coverage available in cash in your account or they will call you.
however I do agree the real players are the MM's.
Someone with an account call TD Ameritrade and find out if CSHD is "marginable" additionally what is the cost per share if it was marginable. I think Chart also explained that with a charge of $2.50 per share on short sales that is was not worth and investors time to try and drive it to zero.
Tax~I don't have a td ameritrade account but I did call them and ask them if CSHD was marginable and she said no it was not.....
FWIW
Posted by 10of13 on :
Asked TD if I could short...this is the email response..
I'm sorry, but only marginable stock can be shorted. Since pink sheet and bulletin board stock is not marginable, we can not allow short selling on any of these.
Mark K. Trade Resolution, TD AMERITRADE Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Of?? So far I now have 700 free shares with the potential to be worth 10,500 dollars
since we're splitting hairs and all should that technically be $17,941.00, lol...
Posted by sceptor on :
Follow up number II.
After reading people calling TDA and getting conflicting information I called them myself. Yes I am that lazy LOL.
I eventually had to talk to the margin dept.
Yes the stock is marginable. Yes the stock has shares available to borrow for shorting. you must meet the maintenance requirement of $2.50 cash equity in your account for each stock borrowed.
So yes TD Ameritrade does aloow individuals to short CSHD as long as the requirements are met for that stock. Thats per the margin dept at TDA.
Posted by Danny_K on :
TDameritrade has a 5$pps min on shorts, also have to be marginable.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Guess it depends on who you talk to. It sure looks like some has been shorting it to death.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Seems we are getting conflicting info from TD? We have sceptor's phone call, my email and that link to the phone conversation...although...the phone conversation and sceptor's calls both said yes...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Of?? So far I now have 700 free shares with the potential to be worth 10,500 dollars
since we're splitting hairs and all should that technically be $17,941.00, lol...
10k, 10k, 10k!!! Posted by new2stocks on :
I thought CSHD wasn't marginable.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
hey people how are they expecting to just "reset" the PPS? i mean can they really just do that?
oh...and isn't that just like a reverse split or something?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Being marginable depends on the broker...different ones have different amounts...
What I am looking more for is the SEC rule...not really the "Broker" rule...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: hey people how are they expecting to just "reset" the PPS? i mean can they really just do that?
:p
You are joking...aren't you?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
10 got it, lol.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
You are joking...aren't you?
ok fine spoil my fun... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
WHoaah... stretch that spread out any further. And you might as well hang a sign up saying "Out of Stock, we buy your old shares cheap!"
0.78 x 0.81
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Seems we are getting conflicting info from TD? We have sceptor's phone call, my email and that link to the phone conversation...although...the phone conversation and sceptor's calls both said yes...
call the margin dept. Just as anything else with TDA, you get what you pay for. If you try and get info on the cheap, you get useless info. LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: 10 got it, lol.
What a 10K? LOL ;)
Posted by betting babe on :
well, TDA didnt ALLOW me to execute the trade on margin, so either they arent following their own rules or the info doesnt match the executioner. errr... *heah*
~BB
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: well, TDA didnt ALLOW me to execute the trade on margin, so either they arent following their own rules or the info doesnt match the executioner. errr... *heah*
~BB
If I am understanding correctly from the postings and my own attempts with Scottrade, it is considered marginable, but there is a cash requirement of usually 100% from what I have seen with most brokers - named marginable, but you can't buy on the margin. They also will allow you to short it as long as you have $2.50 per share in your account. My guess is one of those requirements wasn't met when you tried to execute...?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: 10 got it, lol.
What a 10K? LOL
Now if I had that 10 then I'd be pawning and cashing in lots of things for money to infuse into this thing!! lol Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: well, TDA didnt ALLOW me to execute the trade on margin, so either they arent following their own rules or the info doesnt match the executioner. errr... *heah*
~BB
try calling the margin dept and getting them to put the short thru.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: well, TDA didnt ALLOW me to execute the trade on margin, so either they arent following their own rules or the info doesnt match the executioner. errr... *heah*
~BB
try calling the margin dept and getting them to put the short thru.
ahh, they probably go on a "the squeeky wheel gets the oil" policy..... Seems like all of em are including Fidelity....
Posted by betting babe on :
you know, ill bet that's it. if i called, and they saw the money there, theyd prob push it thru.
much like they told me that the fhal-cshd unsettled shares couldnt be traded without a call.
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sceptor..just curious..how long have you been with them? And do they know you by name and/or the amount of $ in your account? Meaning? could it be that $ and/or who you know or talk to, depends on the answer that "we" will get?
Posted by sceptor on :
They know exactly who they are talking to at all times. they have full access to your account. This is a margin issue so you need to talk to the margin dept to get any reliable info. They have phone monkeys galore there.
Posted by sceptor on :
no trades for 40 minutes?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Just got this email from TD...I asked who decides the rule...
The Federal Reserve Board determines which stocks can be used as collateral for margin loans. However, TD Ameritrade is not obligated to extend margin on all approved stocks.
TD Ameritrade also can raise the margin requirements on securities deemed as a high risk to clients. Examples of non-marginable securities include options, IPOs, Over-The-Counter Bulletin Board (OTCBB) stocks, and pink sheet securities.
Thank you,
Mike A. New Accounts, TD AMERITRADE Division of TD AMERITRADE, Inc.
Posted by 10of13 on :
B/A .79
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I just put a sell order in at the bid and noone jumped on it. I was going to try and get some ACTC so I've tried a couple of times in the past half hour and nothing. Odd
Posted by dog on :
Just returned from my broker at Scottrade office. This info pertains to Scottrade only, other brokers vary, get your own info.
Scottrade will only lend shares if the following 3 criteria are met.
1) The shares are in a margin account.
2) Net total equity of margin account is less than $25,000.00 and has margin owed (even a penny)
3) The PPS of the stock is greater than $5
I was assured that they do not ever lend shares for any type of stock less than $5. Hence they don't do pinks.
A cash account is subject to 3 day holding period on cash made from sales.
A margin account with less than $25,000 equity is allowed 3 trades (buy and sell together count as one) per week per stock.
A margin account with greater than $25,000 equity can buy and sell as many times as they want without restrictions.
Hope this helps... double check with your own broker.
The broker is responsible no matter what to honor any shares that you own...no matter how they have to get it.
Posted by dog on :
Hence I don't feel like I have to order the certs....LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Seems we are getting conflicting info from TD? We have sceptor's phone call, my email and that link to the phone conversation...although...the phone conversation and sceptor's calls both said yes...
Just goy back on, computer took a dump! Wow alot of confusion. When I talked to TDA they said that ""if"" (he stressed that) they were to short a stock less trading for less then $2.50 that a PER SHARE FEE of $2.50 + commission is what it would cost.
Who is going to pay $2.50 + for a .78 cent cent?!!
In otherwords, the Margin department at TDA said that "technically" it is marginable AS LONG AS YOU HAVE $2.50 to back up EACH .78 cent stock!
My point I'm stressing once again is who in their right mind would do that?!
"Dollar chasing a dime!"
So yes we are all "kind of" saying the same thing, Technically a person could do it, but it would be a dumb move. But as a rule of thumb no, an individual cannot short it, Understand?
Clear as mud huh? lol ~
Over seas has nothing on us either, in fact we may have one up on them, -if you want to call throwing $2.50 PER SHARE "plus" the price of the stock itself PLUS commission to buy a .&8 cent stock! LOL ~ -don't think that's really a plus! ha!
MM's CAN short, alot of that has to do with Hedge funds...
That is deep and twisted, not going there ~
And the MM's are the ones behind this, whether it is for Ill-gotten gain or hedging doesn't matter, my point was that they are the ones giving us the shorts ~
Boy will I sleep good tonight! Posted by trade04 on :
shake and bake
Posted by dog on :
No ****... pardon my French, Chart.
Posted by dog on :
So I bet we could see a push to the $2.50 mark? (eventually)
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: So I bet we could see a push to the $2.50 mark? (eventually)
Oops...decimal in the wrong place? LOL
$25.00
Posted by dog on :
God... I only hope..."don't believe it stay calm, breathe."
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by dog: So I bet we could see a push to the $2.50 mark? (eventually)
Oops...decimal in the wrong place? LOL
$25.00
Still in the wrong place...$250.00 Didn't Rufus mention Google? Ok, JK. Posted by driver43 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Good Morning Board.
Yesterday I set out with some of your help to try to get an oversea account that shorted Pennystocks, well let me tell you what I found out
First, all these places have to conform to the same rules of the game that we do, they don't get to do things we can't! I know talk is cheap so all links and numbers are provided...
Let's start right here before we go over seas... 1-800-669-3900 TD Ameritrade (24/7) Called and asked about their shorting policy.
Q. Can I short Penny stocks? A. Yes, as long as they are a 1 "marginable stock" and that there are 2 "shares to borrow available" and 3 they MUST be at least $2.50 in price. Any OTCBB stock is NOT a "marginable security" but any NYSE or NASD stock most likely is...
*note, must meet all 3 criteria
Now it's Schwabs turn. 1-866-232-9890
Q. Can I short Pennystocks with you? A. "As long as the Pennystocks are "marginable" (OTCBB = NOT marginable) and they have to be at least $2.50 in price. If they are below $2.50 it doesn't pay to short them because there is a $2.50 PER SHARE FEE plus commissions to do so, so shorting a dollar penny stock would cost you commissions + $2.50 PER SHARE." <--That's a quote from Schwab!! 1-866-232-9890!
Q. Can I short CSHD, is it a marginable security? A. "Just a minute.... -No it is not a marginable security." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- That my dear fellow traders is straight from the horses mouth!
So that letter Schwab sent out has NOTHING to do with selling shares to short sellers right now! Period!!! 1-866-232-9890 Call them! 24 hours a day!!! That's what they said, in fact he looked it up and read it to me, word for word!!!
So........ What's up with the letter from Schwab?...
Perhaps Schwab is one of the institutions Rufus is talking with, maybe thay are preparing themselves for a IPO open at $15 or higher of CSHD and preparing for short selling THEN? -Or are they covering naked shorts from when CSHD was trading and none of us had our certs and Rufus was holding the float??? Is that what Rufus meant by saying unstitutions will be lined up to buy? -to cover the naked sharts?
I don't know ~ Just thinking out loud with that part.
Pure and simple, if Schwab doesn't need the shares NOW to cover short selling, -then why the letter asking to borrow shares???? That is a dang good question!
I do believe that there are Naked Shorts to be covered from when our shares were froze. Those days when millions of shares were traded, -where did they come from if Rufus has the float???? Is this why the price manipulation with our Share price is happening??
Let's explore the NASD Rule 3350 for short selling now shall we
This link will take you to the natorious "Cayman islands" where money laundering is openly talked about and is a big no no -wink-wink, yeah riiiiiiiight ~
Look under "short selling" they list that...
"In order to sell securities of which you do not own, (i.e. short sale), per NASD Rule 3350, you can only sell on an uptick where the current bid is higher then the previous sell."
"How do you short stocks? The Uptick Rule for shorting stocks requires that a stock be on an uptick before a stock can be shorted (See item #10 for more on this rule). A stock must also be available to short. TurboTrade publishes its list of shortable stocks every day, which can be checked. If the stock you desire is not on the list, we can usually locate a borrowable stock. The software will prevent you from shorting a non-borrowable stock as well."
TDAmeritrade and Schwab called them "marginable" here they are called "borrowable."
They mention a "list" to choose from.
*note that they quote Nasd rules, why? Because they have to comply with them JUST LIKE WE DO!!!
"NASD Rule 3350 governs short sales in NNM securities traded on Nasdaq. In general, Rule 3350 prohibits NASD member firms from effecting short sales (for customer or proprietary accounts) in NNM securities at or below the current inside bid whenever that bid is lower than the previous inside bid. NASD Rule 3350 is designed to prevent the market price of NNM securities from being manipulated downward by unrestricted short selling."
"NASD Rule 3350(k)(1) -- which incorporates by reference SEC Rule 3b-3 -- defines the term "short sale" and establishes the method for determining whether a firm is "net long" or "net short." As you note, aggregation currently must be based on a netting of securities positions in all proprietary accounts as determined at least once each trading day.3 Therefore, unless an exemption or other form of relief is available, firms must aggregate all positions in a security within the firm."
Hence the Schwab letter covering naked shorts.... "?"
So.......
What have we learned?...
First that it's BS that over seas accounts can short any penny stock they want to, the "Pennystock" by definition is a stock under $5.00 but to short a penny stock it...
(1) -must be at least trading at $2.50 or more
[confirmed by TD Ameritrade and Schwab]
(2) -Marginable, OTCBB stocks I was told are not.
[confirmed by TDAmeritrade and Schwab]
(3) - Shares must be available by the Broker to borrow.
[ditto again]
So no, these idoits that come in here and say they are shorting this thing are damn liars! The closest that I was able to come to shorting CSHD was Schwab and he said it isn't worth it with the $2.50 PER SHARE fee on top of the commission fee!!!!!!!!!
So if a dollar stock went down 100% to ZERO you would be in the hole 150% + commissions yet!!!
We also learned that it is a myth that over seas accounts can short a Pennystock any more then we can!
The next time you hear someone say that they are shorting a Penny stock that is UNDER $2.50 ask them what broker they are useing!! LOL!!!! BS!!!!
If they give you a broker call or email them and ask like I did and you'll get the same $2.50 answer! PERIOD!!!
So our enemy isn't these pretend clowns, if anything it's naked shortening MM's.
At best, these "clowns" that say they are shorting the stock are (1) hot air blowers and/or (2) "smart" (is that the right word?! ha) traders who bash so they can buy shares at a cheap cheap price or (3) bad Flippers driving a good stock down for better flip$.
NASD Rule 3360 has been expanded to require NASD member firms to report their short positions on all over-the-counter ("OTC") equity securities to NASD Regulation, on a monthly basis. Once the short position reports are received, the short interest is then compiled for each OTC security.
This DOES NOT MEAN short selling stocks, but rather they are "short" the stocks...[According to Schwab, I'm just writting what I found out]
"Therefore, unless an exemption or other form of relief is available, firms must aggregate all positions in a security within the firm."
The firm must have a written plan of organization that identifies each Aggregation Unit, specifies its trading objective, and supports its independent identity.4
Each Aggregation Unit within the firm must continuously determine, on a real-time basis, its net position for every security that it trades that is subject to NASD Rule 3350.
At least once per day, the firm must reconcile the net positions of all the Aggregation Units with the firm's net position.
Hence the letter from Schwab would fall under:
"Therefore, unless an exemption or other form of relief is available, firms must aggregate all positions in a security within the firm."
Real life example that "Short Interest" reports are not about short selling:
DENVER, CO, Aug 16, 2006 (MARKET WIRE via COMTEX) -- Summus Works, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: SMMW) and ********** announced the following updated coverage of SMMW trade statistics by ********** after releasing the latest short sale data to August 2006. Previous releases under-reported the total trade volume and approximate total short volume due to statistical deficiencies involving massive amounts of SMMW trade data. From January 2005 to August 2006 approximately 121.46 billion total aggregate shares of SMMW have traded for a total dollar value of nearly $17.55 million. The total aggregate number of shares shorted in this time period is approximately 9.35 billion shares.
This isn't a report of 9.35 BILLION Shorted shares... it's the number of shorts that must be covered. (naked?)
SMMW stock is trading at .0001
Who in there right mind would short 9.35 BILLION shares of this at Schwab at $2.50 a share!!!!!!!?????
I Challenge anyone to find a broker who will short SMMW at .0001 or CSHD or any other stock below $2.50! Can't be done because it isn't "marginable" according to Schwab, and if there is one I could not find it.
Call Schwab....... 1-866-232-9890
And if you could Schwab said it would cost you $2.50 PER SHARE, so how the heck do you make over $2.50 (+ commissions) on a stock trading at .0001 by shorting it!!!!!!
Again... the above "Real Life Example" IS NOT about short selling 9.3 Billion shares of SMMW, the books had "short Interest" of that amount...
http:// otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
Is a site about "Short Interest" and NOT shorting stocks.
"NASD Rule 3360 has been expanded to require NASD member firms to report their short positions on all over-the-counter ("OTC") equity securities..."
"They" haven't shorted penny stocks....
That is why this list has value, because the books need to be balanced, and as long as we (CSHD) are on this list, then we can expect the price to be driven down as they "balance the books" if you will...
It's almost 2:30 am now, gonna get some rest been on this all day long and my head needs a rest but wanted to share this with you all.
Did my best, hope this enlightens ~
PLEASE do DD on this, make the calls, read the sites and let's make sure every "T" is crossed here. I don't want any human error on my behalf to filter through.
I have written what I was told when I called...
After I post this I'll look to make sure the links are there, I put a space in them, take that out. Otherwise I'll repost them quick.
I'm spent ~
G-Night...
Chart.
excellent chart, this should be posted on every penny site......... thanks, great info.
by the way, I have made excellent decisions from allstocks over the past couple of years and never cared to post, but , this is excellent..
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Nobody has mentioned the fact that the big funds don't touch the small caps. Normally the PPS has to be above $5.00 before they are purchased for mutual funds and such. I wonder if this is who RPH has lined up to buy when the share price is revalued?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I will take either 2.50 or 25 at this point... I plan on watching this stock for a while based on the DD I have done recently anyway. But it is more fun to watch a stock the higher the price goes.
As I said before I don't plan on selling one share of this stock for less than $5 and that will be just enough to cover myself. The rest will most likely ride here until I get definite word on the spin-off of AISS or another sub.
I live by the 80/20 rule in most everything I do and I am pretty sure after looking into this as deep as I have 80% is going to ride the full distance. While I may take profits on 20%.
TB
Posted by casviper on :
this thing isn't moving until the pps is reset. can we please talk about something else.. like HOW GREAT THE YANKEES ARE!!!!!!!
Posted by dog on :
No... since we all like things that come out of nowhere and become something... we would have to talk about the Detroit Tigers!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: No ****... pardon my French, Chart.
dog you dis-ing me?... I just got back on here and after all the time and work I had into that I didn't want confusion out there.
Bottom line: If it took $25 to make homemade gas.... -why the hell would you do it?
Same thing with shorting Penny's, in my original post I mentioned the $2.50 "per share" thing, I talked with the right people in the right departments and got the right answers.
I've NEVER told this board I had big news before this, maybe never will again...
I just don't want to be seen that I had things wrong... It's just a tough explaination.
Screw it... (no sleep!) Please forgive me, I'm rambling
But I was right, everyday people have nothing to do with shorting Pennystocks under $2.50 ~
Peace out ~
ps. this will make you laugh!! My best friend just called and needs me to help MOVE tonight!!! lol ~
SUCKS TO BE ME!!! LOL ~~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
next resistance point is .85 Fib... FYI
Posted by dog on :
Not dissing you... fully agree with being able to sleep tonite..
Posted by trade04 on :
HOW ABOUT FOOTBALL, I LOVE FOOTBALL SEASON...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by casviper: this thing isn't moving until the pps is reset. can we please talk about something else.. like HOW GREAT THE YANKEES ARE!!!!!!!
I would be willing to bet that this price moves before the reset. I would also bet that the Yankee's are making way too much of their recent sweep of the Red Sox. Because if the Yankee fans would pay attention to any other team than just the Yankee's they would realise that recently the Devil Rays almost swept the Sox, and the Kansas City Royals did sweep the Sox too. The Yankee's are not that great, it's just the Red Sox are just that bad.
Posted by dog on :
Since I'm in Ann Arbor, and a Michigan alumni times 2, you can guess what team I'm for.
Big Ten football in the fall.... everything is good.
Posted by dog on :
Where do all these shares come from? Nothing..then a drop... then BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Fake, fake, fake.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Since I'm in Ann Arbor, and a Michigan alumni times 2, you can guess what team I'm for.
Big Ten football in the fall.... everything is good.
NOT ONLY FOOTBALL FOR ME but all the fall shows im hooked on like house, prison break, greys anatomy, and desperatehouse wives bahaha
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Since I'm in Ann Arbor, and a Michigan alumni times 2, you can guess what team I'm for.
Big Ten football in the fall.... everything is good.
NOT ONLY FOOTBALL FOR ME but all the fall shows im hooked on like house, prison break, greys anatomy, and desperatehouse wives bahaha
House = A+
Great show!
Posted by ruthie on :
Go Yanks!
Posted by dog on :
House?
I never saw any hot doctors during my residency... so I can't suspend my disbelief... all the cuties in scrubs... yeah right.
I'll take the Big House!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Did anyone see the run that ACTC made? Holy crap! It's still going...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Did anyone see the run that ACTC made? Holy crap! It's still going...
i bought * 1.00 sold * 1.50 =(
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am bored... we need some news.
Posted by casviper on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: HOW ABOUT FOOTBALL, I LOVE FOOTBALL SEASON...
We can talk about football "GO GIANTS" after the YANKEES WIN THE WORLD SERIES !!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Did anyone see the run that ACTC made? Holy crap! It's still going...
i bought * 1.00 sold * 1.50 =(
I wouldnt be frowning about that. I wish i had done that myself!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
I'll cheer for the CUBs when they let the fabled goat re-enter Wrigley and sit in the front row aside third base.
Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by casviper:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: HOW ABOUT FOOTBALL, I LOVE FOOTBALL SEASON...
We can talk about football "GO GIANTS" after the YANKEES WIN THE WORLD SERIES !!!
File both of those in the "Not This Year" category.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Barber is going to have a good year Giants Off line looks really good so far. wonder how they are going to look when regular season kicks in and the Defenses kick it up a notch? I want Tiki on my FFL team. Got the draft this weekend so it could happen. Posted by dog on :
I can't wait to concentrate on other stocks... damn what a run
Posted by casviper on :
We can talk football "GO GIANTS" after the YANKEES WIN THE WORLD SERIES !!!!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Nice little EOD run!
Posted by trade04 on :
guess i was thinking too much of the 4k i missed out on =)
Posted by casviper on :
can we have a sports thread. is anyone up for that. i didn't know we had so many sports people. that's great!!!
Posted by milliam on :
I'll cheer for the EOD run!!!
Posted by dog on :
Here we gooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
EOD run looking good...!
Posted by unclerudy on :
Except I DID get Tiki on my FF team this year. He went number 4 in the draft today. I am in the middle of an internet draft, and am waiting for my commishioner to draft from home for the past hour.
Posted by djg7 on :
casviper, start a sports thread. EOD looking good.
Posted by trade04 on :
im gonna add 1,000 just before close
Posted by SherriT on :
I'm in for a sports thread...all sports? pro or college or both? ;-)
Posted by dog on :
Time's running out.....
Posted by Goodones on :
MM block trades of 2500 and 5000 to run the price up to see how many shares they can buy.
Posted by portman on :
20K at .86
Posted by betting babe on :
oh realllllly.
is that why the yankees are avg .605, 3rd highest in the AL - NL league standings??!
they're only behind the mets & detroit... and we'll see about the latter end of the month.
MISTER.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: The Yankee's are not that great, it's just the Red Sox are just that bad.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
WTF! .7850?
Posted by dog on :
50000 at .87...daaammmnnn
Posted by betting babe on :
yeah i was thinkin that shoulda been .875 ?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: WTF! .7850?
Some jerky trying to sneak a sour trade in there at the end or they really wanted 0.8750???
Posted by portman on :
ooooo...3k on the HOD at the end....will...it...stand? NO
The pain of the down tick....ladies and gentlemen...that is the essence of sport...
Of course you gotta say it like Cosell.
Posted by ruthie on :
I'll take .87 Hopefully tomorrow will end somewhat higher..
Posted by dog on :
EOD high B!!!
Posted by dog on :
EOD .88
Posted by coalkickin on :
someone sold 50,000 at the close??
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by coalkickin: someone sold 50,000 at the close??
or bought
Posted by dog on :
Someone bought 50,000 shares in one block at .87
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
they just bought below the ask is all...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: oh realllllly.
is that why the yankees are avg .605, 3rd highest in the AL - NL league standings??!
they're only behind the mets & detroit... and we'll see about the latter end of the month.
MISTER.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: The Yankee's are not that great, it's just the Red Sox are just that bad.
Oh there is no doubt that the Yanks are the best team money can buy. Just saying that the fans and media shouldn't be all that excited over a Red Sox sweep. Yeah the tigers are having some problems. I like Leland and he is a personal friend of the family so I will still root for them.
Posted by dog on :
many block buys of 2500, 5000, and 10,000 near the end
Posted by dog on :
We should start off well tomorrow as long as no negative news comes out.... an 8k or 10k would be helpful!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
This was a nice green day... Think we all needed it! Been taking the beat...
Gee, yippee now to go help move! agh ~~ LOL ~ Later Board!!!
Posted by dog on :
Seeya Chart... thanks for the good work...really...that news helped us all out today.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
AaaaaRRRRGGGggg! On a whim I went out and looked at the latest SEC filings on Edgar. Top of the list was my arch enemy... I had to look three times after my heart started beating again. ************* CONVERSION SERVICES INTERNATIONAL INC Rpt Per : MCKNIGHT WILLIAM 4 4:06 PM ************* Conversion Services not Conversion Solutions!!! &*(^*&!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Thanks dog, and "everyone" who liked my post. Allstocks... "Home sweet Home" lol ~
Posted by dog on :
You see what happens when we hold our chips... the enemy hedges up the bet... LOL
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: AaaaaRRRRGGGggg! On a whim I went out and looked at the latest SEC filings on Edgar. Top of the list was my arch enemy... I had to look three times after my heart started beating again. ************* CONVERSION SERVICES INTERNATIONAL INC Rpt Per : MCKNIGHT WILLIAM 4 4:06 PM ************* Conversion Services not Conversion Solutions!!! &*(^*&!!!
LOL no kidding. Those guys must file crap just to burn thru money for a write off or something.
Posted by lostone on :
can someone elaborate more on this? i'm feeling it's negative, but don't really know why, what's wrong with these guys?
Posted by lostone on :
o, ok, i think i got it, it's not us.. doh!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by lostone: o, ok, i think i got it, it's not us.. doh!
I have been staring at this Edgar list with a 30 second refresh for nearly 3 weeks solid now. Anytime I see a company name even remotely close to Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp., Furia, or Fronthaul. I have to pinch myself.
For some reason Conversion "Services" is on some sort of SEC filing frenzy and they get me everytime.
It is strange. I have it running on my destop on my second screen and out of the corner of my eye I now catch pretty much anything of interest that gets filed durring the day. Brand names like Pepsi Co., Apple Bees Int., Haliburton, old clients of mine and even the company I currently work for. I always seem to catch them.
I caught one S-4 from my company a few days ago. Walked down to the guy's office that does our filing, and he laughed and said "No Way, I just filed that 5 minutes ago." It is turning into a game around here. "Spot the filing" Hmmm... that is an odd sort of game. But useful in these situations.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Pursuant to Section 13 or 15(d) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934
August 18, 2006 --------------------------------- Date of Report (Date of Earliest Event Reported)
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. ------------------------------------------------------ (Exact Name of Registrant as Specified in its Charter)
125 Town Park Drive Suite 300 Kennesaw, GA 30144 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- (Address of principal executive offices)
(770) 420-8270 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Registrant's telephone number, including area code)
N/A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (Former name and former address, if changed since last report)
Delaware
000-13910
43-2109079
---------------
------------
-------------------
(State or other jurisdiction of
(Commission
(I.R.S. Employer
incorporation)
File Number)
Identification No.)
Section I Registrants Business and Operations
Item 1.01 Entry into a Material Definitive Agreement
Effective August 18, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. has entered into a Global Funding Agreement # 252455779-08122006-LBH with the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD., a Georgia LTD Foundation.
The Foundation's Co-Operators are Adnan Sakli FD# 8216 and 8217, Craig M. Cason and Steven Canady.
The funding agreement brings a 450 Million Euro ($579,149,833 USD converted) denominated Note on Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC with a 6 1/8% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The MTN holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite A+ rating with a Moody's A1 rating).
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC 6 1/8 A+
Common Code: 010924251
ISIN: XS0109242510
BB Number: EC2377199
Effective August 22, 2006, Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp. and the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD., a Georgia LTD Foundation increased the Deposit under Global Funding Agreement # 252455779-08122006-LBH with the addition of the following Bonds;
Republic of Finland
$749,000,000 Million Euro
6 % coupon
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Republic of Finland
6 AAA
Common Code:
001004558
ISIN:
FI 0001004558
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
HELL YA!!!! that is new!!! in the las 30 minutes.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Ok...question answered...yes they did need to file the 8k...LOL
More verification to me that this isn't a scam...they continue to "file" and not simply PR things....tomorrow should be a great day!
Posted by jm430 on :
Yes, that's an extra 750 million euro bond!!!
This is on top of the 450 million euro bond previously mentioned!
Wow!
Now all we need is the reset...
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Is this new?
...Yes, it shows up on SEC website as posted todays date.
8-K 1 cshd08238k3.htm CSHD - 8-K
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20549
FORM 8-K -------removed rest of text...see previous post by jm430
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Filed at 5:04PM today...
FURIA ORGANIZATION INC /DE/ 8-K 5:04 PM 8/23/2006
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Holy necture of dollar stocks!!! lol ~ Nice link New2stocks!! Jim 430 has part of that too.
ahhmm, Attention DD people! I'll expect a full report when I get back! ha ~~
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
it was posted as accepted by SEC at....Accepted: 2006-08-23 17:04:16
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Holy Carp! this just keeps getting better.
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
jm430...you were first by 2 seconds.....kudos to you for being on your toes........
Posted by new2stocks on :
I thought I posted it first....doesn't matter....lol
Posted by dog on :
Do you know what it's like to have yer nutz in a vice? Shorty just started drinkin... and I mean the hard stuff!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
2 EX-99 globalfundagree.htm 61341 EX 99.1 FUNDING AGREE 3 EX-99 annex_b.htm 15945 EX 99.2 BOND ANNEX
0001297077-06-000058.txt 88898 Complete submission text file
Posted by jm430 on :
Thanks Bucky,
I was surprised nobody had posted it yet. I saw it posted on ihub by, of all people, JJSeabrook. I'm not sure if everybody's been following this drama, but he's a key figure.
Do we 'need' financials to prove this isn't a scam still with the 8k filing? I'm just curious what people think. I'm definitely long on this and either going down with the ship or flying up with the rocket.
Anyway, good luck to all!
p.s. BuckyBarnes are you related to Bucky Badger?
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I thought I posted it first....doesn't matter....lol
....Right you are ......better on your toes by a full five minutes.....Bigger kudos for new2stocks!!!!!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Thanks Bucky! Posted by Chartwalker on :
Isn't that the Sh*ts Taxback?!! You have been watching that for DAYS!! And here New2stocks nails it! OMG!
To funny ~
Thanks to all you who keep watching!... Darn I have to go! I'll read all the juice later!!!
WHOA!!!! What a day!!!
Posted by jm430 on :
Sorry new2. I now see you posted the link! Nice work.
Are we all ready for tomorrow?
Posted by bigstocks on :
Im not selling until at least $25. They will still say its a scam.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
$958,912,521.60 = 750 million Euros
For those that care...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by jm430: Sorry new2. I now see you posted the link! Nice work.
Are we all ready for tomorrow?
no big deal....we all work together here. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I say no to the financials being needed at this point for validation. I have read the document once already, and I can say one thing without looking at a 10K. This is no longer Fronthaul and the log diving company any more. These new bonds are for real, and they are split 50/50 with H&S. Even if the previous 500 million dollar Venesulan bond was not ligit, these two are not and one could "speculate" the other is too.
Long story short... we are holding stock in a company with a current market cap of $84.8 million, and confirmed SEC filed assets of $1.2 Billion, and possibly another 3 Billion un-confirmed and possibly a 500 million dollar war chest unconfirmed.
If we do not see instant price correction starting tomorrow I do not think anything will do it until a physical reset.
Happy times... GLTA and everyone. TB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Isn't that the Sh*ts Taxback?!! You have been watching that for DAYS!! And here New2stocks nails it! OMG!
To funny ~
Thanks to all you who keep watching!... Darn I have to go! I'll read all the juice later!!!
WHOA!!!! What a day!!!
I had burnt out watching it last Thursday, and turned it on for 5 seconds this afternoon and saw Conversion Services... kicked myself and turned it off. That was at 4:30 or so. this came out at 5:04 so I am a dope but not stressing it. I just didn't want us to miss anything... and we didn't... Yeaa for us.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Long story short... we are holding stock in a company with a current market cap of $84.8 million, and confirmed SEC filed assets of $1.2 Billion, and possibly another 3 Billion un-confirmed and possibly a 500 million dollar war chest unconfirmed.
I sure as hell hope everyone else realizes this as well...
On a related note...that other bond was never put in an 8k?
Posted by new2stocks on :
Well, I have to go get some stuff done! This is a great way to end the day!
GLTA!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Long story short... we are holding stock in a company with a current market cap of $84.8 million, and confirmed SEC filed assets of $1.2 Billion, and possibly another 3 Billion un-confirmed and possibly a 500 million dollar war chest unconfirmed.
I sure as hell hope everyone else realizes this as well...
On a related note...that other bond was never put in an 8k?
They didn't have too. CVSU was private at that time. OTCBB is pretty loose on their filing rules, and Pink Sheets is basically file if you want too.
CVSU really didn't have any filings to their name. This one is still titled on Edgar under Furia.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Long story short... we are holding stock in a company with a current market cap of $84.8 million, and confirmed SEC filed assets of $1.2 Billion, and possibly another 3 Billion un-confirmed and possibly a 500 million dollar war chest unconfirmed.
I sure as hell hope everyone else realizes this as well...
On a related note...that other bond was never put in an 8k?
That "other bond" ? Was "obtained" during a time frame in which "FHAL" was not involved...it was only CVSU...not a reporting company...
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL..Taxback
Posted by dog on :
So this is a different bond than in last Friday's PR?
Posted by dog on :
What total assets are we looking at... or at least alluded to?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
On a very interesting note... This is Rufas's first filing following the merger amended 8K.
That definitely says something towards the validity right there. Kinda like "popping the cherry" so to speak. Hopefully we see many more in the comming weeks. Including a heafty 10K.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: [QUOTE]
That "other bond" ? Was "obtained" during a time frame in which "FHAL" was not involved...it was only CVSU...not a reporting company...
thanks ya'll...i was thinking something like that...it's been so long though i couldn't honestly remember the circumstances...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: So this is a different bond than in last Friday's PR?
Read the document dog. It is the same Aug 18th bond of 450 million euros, with an additional deposite on Aug 22 of 750 million euros.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Anybody figure out what the PPS will be now on that? :<)
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I need a beer... bye all. WOW! Shaking like Beavis again, and utterly speachless. "Heh heh... heh, heh"
Posted by 10of13 on :
BB, Livin, The Pdf file from last night...was this "bank" in that one? HSBC Bank plc London ...this is from the filing today...wasn't that "one of the banks?"
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Anybody figure out what the PPS will be now on that? :<)
$42 and higher now. Still need to add in the 3 billion under contract out of the 15 billion waiting to invest.
Life is going to great really good now man, and we havent even begune the short squee4ze of the century yet.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by bigstocks: Anybody figure out what the PPS will be now on that? :<)
$42 and higher now. Still need to add in the 3 billion under contract out of the 15 billion waiting to invest, so definitely higher.
Life is going to great really good now man, and we havent even begun the short squeeze of the century yet.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: BB, Livin, The Pdf file from last night...was this "bank" in that one? HSBC Bank plc London ...this is from the filing today...wasn't that "one of the banks?"
Look on page 13 of the PDF at the top of the page...same bank?
Posted by dog on :
Gimme a break... I'm putting up drywall... just wanted the skinny.... tired of reading right now. I scanned the document... looked like there were additional assets.
I'll rip it apart later over a scotch...
Damn... told my friend to buy 2 days ago... and I don't recommend stocks.
With these assets and a squeeze? This is going to be entertaining.
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: BB, Livin, The Pdf file from last night...was this "bank" in that one? HSBC Bank plc London ...this is from the filing today...wasn't that "one of the banks?"
Look on page 13 of the PDF at the top of the page...same bank?
Can't be certain but it could very well be and that would fit.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Sceptor,thats about what I came up with. Gonna be real interesting tomorrow.
Posted by luvforever on :
Just got back and look what everyones got here!!!! Great job new2stocks you fellas are on a roll!!! !!! Were gonna be sitting higher than the moon in a short while if this keeps up! LOL Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I've been watching this now since I sold out. I will admit something that I never thought I would at that point:
The Longs are winning this war.
The filing of the 8K is huge, and goes totally against what I thought would happen based on convo's with industry professionals. I will be purchasing a position tomorrow am, you can call me a flipper or whatever...
At this point I'm calling myself a smart investor for waiting for some facts to come in on this to prove legitimacy. Now I have them and probably will be fortunate to re-acquire my position.
I've always been honest here about where I stand -and you can't blame a person for flip flopping on this very very unique and almost unbelievable situation. However I re-state, the 8K filing is huge and I see a real opportunity here proven by this act.
GLTA !
Posted by dog on :
Good for you Smelly... welcome back aboard!
Posted by dog on :
I can't blame anyone for taking a position and going with it. So long as they don't hang out for weeks after and bash. We are not out of the woods yet... not a done deal... but I see some light thru the trees and it is good.
Posted by betting babe on :
im lookin 10, one sec ive got a desktop full of stuff... at least it's not another country Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: I've been watching this now since I sold out. I will admit something that I never thought I would at that point:
The Longs are winning this war.
The filing of the 8K is huge, and goes totally against what I thought would happen based on convo's with industry professionals. I will be purchasing a position tomorrow am, you can call me a flipper or whatever...
At this point I'm calling myself a smart investor for waiting for some facts to come in on this to prove legitimacy. Now I have them and probably will be fortunate to re-acquire my position.
I've always been honest here about where I stand -and you can't blame a person for flip flopping on this very very unique and almost unbelievable situation. However I re-state, the 8K filing is huge and I see a real opportunity here proven by this act.
GLTA !
Smelly, This isn't IHUB and you didn't exit like many over there had. I don't think you are going to find many here who would criticise you for honesty. That isn't what we are about. Welcome back! I hope it is a good price!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
who thinks this is going to gap down just for the hell of it?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well lookie here, this 8k speaks of some serious cash flow. And here i was watching the PPS today wondering if i too could make good money from flipping a few shares here and there. Honestly, the last time i was about to do the same thing they made that surprise appearnce in IHUB setting up the internet chat. Its like they can sense the figgityness!
I wonnnnnnnnnder (again) if this is why the 10k is delayed. It only makes sense to tidy things up first, especially concerning $500+ million dollar bonds. I just wonder if there are more of these surprises coming or if the 10k is the followup. For once i feel like i could wait a bit for the 10k if they still have some business to take care of. This extra couple of weeks has been very "profitable" for CSHD.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
welcome back smelly. I must say I sold a small portion today to buy actc. I hoping for a very fast runup there so I can buy more here again. This is my home on this board and with this stock I was just trying to buy some more.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
This is huge
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Heya Uncle Smelly! Actually, im quite relieved to have you back! Its hard to watch a real believer get turned like you did without feeling a little nervous about the situation!
Awesome "return post". Totally unecessary for me, and most others im sure, but very decent!
Welcome back
Posted by betting babe on :
yes 10.
Posted by laker08 on :
hello this is a newbie question. i know it's simple question and someone probably can answer right away. do you get taxed once you sell any stock? can someone tell me how taxes are when the account is under an ira account and the person is above the age of 59 1/2? i'lll be greatful if someone can answer these questions. thank you....
Posted by 10of13 on :
Are you bothered by that?
Posted by wallymac on :
I have to say this. I love the interaction on this board. People selling aren't considered traitors and those selling feel they can come back and post. The way things should be.
The picture is becoming a bit clearer yet still a bit out of focus. My position has always been cautious optimism. As I have said before I'm riding free shares but it might be time to add a bit to that position.
I still don't fully understand how the total amount of the bonds go directly to the bottom line when CSHD must repay 50% plus interest. I know virtually nothing when it comes to bonds. If anyone has a handle on this I would appreciate your input.
GLTA Wally
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by laker08: hello this is a newbie question. i know it's simple question and someone probably can answer right away. do you get taxed once you sell any stock? can someone tell me how taxes are when the account is under an ira account and the person is above the age of 59 1/2? i'lll be greatful if someone can answer these questions. thank you....
Im sure someone can field this one for ya quick, however its a bit over my head. I always wondered how IRA's and trading worked, regardless if the persons age.
Posted by luvforever on :
Dog, I saw u posted about scottrade thanks thats about the same I got too from them so I do believe we don't need certs... but I'm feeling better on the safe side... again thanks for posting what you were told. Posted by betting babe on :
ummmm not per se. after all, the whole reason for the stonewalling, thereby causing the suit, could be that theyre somehow tied into the CSHD deal coming to fruition. which perhaps they cant speak about to the civil parties yet... she said quietly.
Posted by T e x on :
"I still don't fully understand how the total amount of the bonds go directly to the bottom line when CSHD must repay 50% plus interest. I know virtually nothing when it comes to bonds. If anyone has a handle on this I would appreciate your input."
that's me, too...I start reading all that fine detail and my eyes cross. Lottsa stuff I can read quickly and get it...but not that...
Posted by MikeSC on :
Laker, basically, you have to report the gains you made on sales of equity and can offset those with your sales for losses. Your tax bill/refund calculations will be adjusted for that additional income.
I believe that you will not be taxed on sales in an IRA as long as that cash stays in the IRA. If you take the money out prior to the established retirement age, you will be charged taxes on that plus a penalty (10% probably).
Posted by betting babe on :
if you have invested your IRA, if the stock goes up you are increasing the value of your IRA, yet you arent withdrawing, therefore no you are not taxed at this time. if the pps descreases then you are loooooosing your IRA... it's the same as if you invested your IRA anywhere else. to the best of my knowledge. ~BB
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by laker08: hello this is a newbie question. i know it's simple question and someone probably can answer right away. do you get taxed once you sell any stock? can someone tell me how taxes are when the account is under an ira account and the person is above the age of 59 1/2? i'lll be greatful if someone can answer these questions. thank you....
Im sure someone can field this one for ya quick, however its a bit over my head. I always wondered how IRA's and trading worked, regardless if the persons age.
Posted by trade04 on :
i just woke up from my trademark nap after the close ($749,000,000 Million Euro ) WOOOHOOO! =)
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am back... reading the 8K document again. LOL
Posted by betting babe on :
10, livin...
did you DD the plaintiff? LOL i must have this wrong...
this just keeps getting better...
the Plaintiff is in MacDougall-Walker Correctional Institution??! LMAO
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
NO...I didn't DD him...did it say why? Too funny...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: 10, livin...
did you DD the plaintiff? LOL i must have this wrong...
this just keeps getting better...
the Plaintiff is in MacDougall-Walker Correctional Institution??! LMAO
~BB
plaintiff, which case, BB?
Posted by betting babe on :
i just couldnt understand why it said "plaintiff will supplement this statement as he gains access to his business and personal records"
i cant stop laffin that is just too funny! i mean, the irony. LMAO
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
The ladies are on to somethin
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i just couldnt understand why it said "plaintiff will supplement this statement as he gains access to his business and personal records"
i cant stop laffin that is just too funny! i mean, the irony. LMAO
I assumed it was because "they" were confiscated or something...so he was already there when he filed...OMG...can any of these things get anymore twisted? LMAO...
Posted by betting babe on :
you're saying the plaintiff's problems make the state's case hinky?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: 10, livin...
did you DD the plaintiff? LOL i must have this wrong...
this just keeps getting better...
the Plaintiff is in MacDougall-Walker Correctional Institution??! LMAO
~BB
Nope - you got it right - it gets better too, give me a minute.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Oh, the RICO thing?
have only skimmed that one...
you're saying the plaintiff's problems make the state's case hinky?
i had asked BB if the banks mentioned in the 8K was one of the ones listed in the "case"..at first it didn't sound good..but all is falling into place again...
All of these "legal suits"? seems that Rufas and Company are actually the "injured parties"...and we keep getting the "dirt on them" and the trail always stops...why? Perhaps it is simply time for Rufas and Company to be in the spot light and be the good guys for a change...
Posted by betting babe on :
yes Tex, the civil suit.
so we have an attorney that seems to have gotten burned in one of the deals - then was convicted of defrauding his clients and investors - filing a civil suit against his ex-pseudo-conspirators.
LMAO
i cant get ahold of myself it is just too funny.
i think this actually now reinforces my belief in CSHD. if they had these bonds since 2004 and they are just now finding a corporate structure to cash in...
well, that makes more sense. and it makes sense why Rufus would partner up with them.
this deal certainly hasnt happened overnight.
~BB
Posted by glassman on :
the trail always stops....
that's been my conclusion too...
and this time? it either goes forward? or it stops in jail...
that's kinda what i've seen...
i think i posted that about a month ago?
this has been a riot...literally.. Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Oh, the RICO thing? you're saying the plaintiff's problems make the state's case hinky?
state's case? it is a CIVIL suit. filed by a convicted felon.
felons have rights too ya know Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: Oh, the RICO thing? you're saying the plaintiff's problems make the state's case hinky?
state's case? it is a CIVIL suit. filed by a convicted felon.
felons have rights too ya know
that *is* funny...
good follow-up
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OK guys... I am reading your posts thendipping back 10 pages trying to find what your talking about. Changing the boy's diaper, and then comming back to see you guys dig a bit further. All the while I still have not found the PDF you are referencing... little help here which law siut are we talking.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yes glass and Tex...on the other thread there was discusion as far as Rufas being asked to stop pretending to be the CEO...the company wanted him "removed" because "he didn't have the $ that he claimed to have"...Or did he? what year was that from?
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: OK guys... I am reading your posts thendipping back 10 pages trying to find what your talking about. Changing the boy's diaper, and then comming back to see you guys dig a bit further. All the while I still have not found the PDF you are referencing... little help here which law siut are we talking.
she posted it top of this page
Posted by T e x on :
i still say that was a power play by the board of directors... PROPOSAL
Election of Board of Directors
Purpose of Election
Shareholders are being asked to choose between two groups as the board of Directors for the Company.
On May 12, 2004, the Company filed suit in Nevada District Court against Enhancement Holdings, LLC, Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh for fraud, negligent misrepresentation, breach of contract and rescission. The suit was removed to the United States District Court for the District of Nevada on May 19, 2004. The lawsuit arises out of an agreement between the Company and Enhancement Holdings, LLC pursuant to which Enhancement Holdings, LLC had agreed to provide a guaranty to facilitate the acquisition of a line of credit for the Company. On June 8, 2004 the court entered a temporary restraining order enjoining Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from holding themselves out as officers and/or directors of the Company and prohibiting them from selling or transferring any shares in the Company. On June 16, 2004 the court entered a preliminary injunction to the same effect. After a further hearing before the court on July 22, 2004, the court ordered that the preliminary injunction be dissolved to the extent that it prohibited Paul Harris, Benjamin Stanley and John Walsh from holding themselves out as directors of the Company. The court also ordered the Company to hold a special shareholders election to determine who should serve as the Company’s directors.
The result of the vote will leave seats on the board filled by either the group of Dr Ronald Tripp, Michael Williams and Keith McAllister or the group from Enhancement Holdings, LLC: Paul Harris, Ben Stanley and John Walsh. The group that loses the vote will be removed from the board.
Vote Required
The affirmative vote of a majority of the outstanding voting shares of the Company, together with the affirmative vote of a majority of the required quorum, is required for the election of directors to the Company, at the November 19, 2004 Special Meeting of Shareholders. Each share may vote once either for one group or the other. Votes withheld and broker non-votes will be counted for purposes of determining the presence or absence of a quorum but has no other effect under Nevada law in the tabulation of votes. Only one group can be voted for; proxies received with votes for both or neither party will be disqualified but will count as votes in the quorum.
I saw that... still not putting 2 and 2 together. Who is Hicks and 10of13 mentioned something about page 13 of a PDF? Been looking for a pdf from last nights dd.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yes glass and Tex...on the other thread there was discusion as far as Rufas being asked to stop pretending to be the CEO...the company wanted him "removed" because "he didn't have the $ that he claimed to have"...Or did he? what year was that from?
02? 04? can't recall offa the top of my head...can find it, though, in the old thread...
but I don't remember it being he didn't have dough...I recall it being more like BCIT...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: OK guys... I am reading your posts thendipping back 10 pages trying to find what your talking about. Changing the boy's diaper, and then comming back to see you guys dig a bit further. All the while I still have not found the PDF you are referencing... little help here which law siut are we talking.
Tax last night Livin found a court file on Sakli And posted if anyone wants it PM him...some of us got it...and then today in the 8K the bank that they are using was also the same bank that was mentioned in this court case that Livon found...and then BB found that the "plantiff" was actually the felon...and was pissed off so filed suit against everybody and their brother..who happened to be Sakli...
Posted by betting babe on :
the pdf is the civil suit that Livin brought to the board yesterday.
this is a continuation of that discussion, which, unless you PMd Livin for a copy of the pdf as he offered, is probably going over your head?
good news is it's all fine, just a buncha cons goin after bonds. LMAO
:-X
perhaps Hicks wouldnt think it was racketeering if he was holding one of the rackets? ~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: OK guys... I am reading your posts thendipping back 10 pages trying to find what your talking about. Changing the boy's diaper, and then comming back to see you guys dig a bit further. All the while I still have not found the PDF you are referencing... little help here which law siut are we talking.
Tax last night Livin found a court file on Sakli And posted if anyone wants it PM him...some of us got it...and then today in the 8K the bank that they are using was also the same bank that was mentioned in this court case that Livon found...and then BB found that the "plantiff" was actually the felon...and was pissed off so filed suit against everybody and their brother..who happened to be Sakli...
Wow, nice recap. I was also a bit behind since i didnt see Livins post about PMing for that info. LOL
Thanks for spelling it out!
And yes, very good stuff...........crazy too
Posted by MHampton on :
Is it just me, or does this thing keep getting weirder and weirder?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Can't access PACER at the moment - basically this guy got pinched and it sounds like he is trying to bring everyone else around him down also.
There was one interesting thing in a motion stating that this whole case was brought from Hick's memory as he does / did not have access to his former clients, the internet or his files - cause he is in da' pokey. Great memory though, if it is true.
Posted by betting babe on :
Is Hicks the name Rufus spouted off about that one time in Ihub when he was "calling out" Mr our street? I thought i saw that name someplace before
Posted by betting babe on :
Livin: that's why i said earlier: yes, from his memory... page 18 of the pdf...
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i just couldnt understand why it said "plaintiff will supplement this statement as he gains access to his business and personal records"
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by MHampton: Is it just me, or does this thing keep getting weirder and weirder?
you haven't seen half of how wierd this one has been...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: hey Tax, I posted it online for you to read it:
sorry i cant stop giggling. a convicted fraudster calling out the gangstas.
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: OK guys... I am reading your posts thendipping back 10 pages trying to find what your talking about. Changing the boy's diaper, and then comming back to see you guys dig a bit further. All the while I still have not found the PDF you are referencing... little help here which law siut are we talking.
Tax last night Livin found a court file on Sakli And posted if anyone wants it PM him...some of us got it...and then today in the 8K the bank that they are using was also the same bank that was mentioned in this court case that Livon found...and then BB found that the "plantiff" was actually the felon...and was pissed off so filed suit against everybody and their brother..who happened to be Sakli...
Wow, nice recap. I was also a bit behind since i didnt see Livins post about PMing for that info. LOL
Thanks for spelling it out!
And yes, very good stuff...........crazy too
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by MHampton: Is it just me, or does this thing keep getting weirder and weirder?
you haven't seen half of how wierd this one has been...
lol...
Posted by cassity on :
Glassman, I respect your view very much, I am curious what your take is on the current 8k. I know your probably busy, but it would be very much apprieciated. Thank you Taxback for your interpretation as well. Taxback, didn't you say you were an accountant or something. I haven't had time to read through the entire 8k yet (I'm at work) but will tonight. I have a feeling that it will be like reading Japanese. Thanks everyone and here's to a GREAT tomorrow!!!! GLTA Posted by dog on :
Hey... just called it a night on the construction... did you guys knock it out? Am I a millionaire yet? Can I hire someone else to sand this drywall?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Well geez, this explains what BB was saying about Laos yesterday. BB i thought you were just losin your mind. So sorry. Posted by MHampton on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by MHampton: Is it just me, or does this thing keep getting weirder and weirder?
you haven't seen half of how wierd this one has been...
Actually, I have been in this thing since it was logs from the amazon and watched it get stranger from there. I admit I jumped out awhile back above 1.20 when the BS factor just hit the alarm. Still not sure if it was the right thing to do or not, so have been following it since.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm going to agree with BB here...and after looking up all of this stuff and the time lines and all..this has been "in the works" for quite sometime...and all of these "bad and questionable" things that have been pointed towards Rufas and Company....seem to be comin' around to ending right here at this stock...all of their hard work over the past couple of years going to pay off right here and now...through CSHD or they will be in a room next to Mr. Hicks...IMO...
Posted by betting babe on :
heah, no prob MrCat.
i do think this explains some of Rufus' smug attitude.
it may not be just the 'shorts' he's after...
Rufus and crew seem to have some unfinished business.
Posted by glassman on :
Mhampton it's a moderator joke.. there's been atleast 6 people that i am sure of that have been "suspended" over this one.. one night? we had about four people in here drinking, and well... the bouncer had to earn his pay.. this one has just set alot of people on each other's throats..
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Its kinda funny when i think about it. Ive been in this for roughly 2 months. The past 3 weeks have been crazy, and of course lacking in patience. These guys have been busting their butts in this mess for a couple / few years. My 3 weeks seem a bit weak in comparison. Do they have all their ducks in a row this time?
----------------------------- *quack* *quack* get in line!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: hey Tax, I posted it online for you to read it:
Thanks BB that puts 2 and 2 together. Posted by MHampton on :
lol
either you believe or you don't I guess. I had questions, so I pulled, but it's still be interesting following it. I want to read the book on the whole thing when it comes out!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Mhampton it's a moderator joke.. there's been atleast 6 people that i am sure of that have been "suspended" over this one.. one night? we had about four people in here drinking, and well... the bouncer had to earn his pay.. this one has just set alot of people on each other's throats..
I disagree, there was definately more than 1 night of drinking in here. Posted by T e x on :
"Rufus and crew seem to have some unfinished business."
makes sense to me...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Hey... just called it a night on the construction... did you guys knock it out? Am I a millionaire yet? Can I hire someone else to sand this drywall?
You might have to wait to pay them...but I've hung, mudded and sanded enough drywall to know...it's worth hiring someone...you will have no problem paying for it shortly..I hope!
Posted by MHampton on :
this has been enough to drive anyone to drink!
Posted by dog on :
These guys have been affiliated for some time, and they ended up in certain areas separate from one another and have guided their business to this pinnacle... CSHD.
The bigger question is who else do they know closely that will be involved in future business? Lockheed CEO's, politicians, etc.
I suspected this for some time... but it seemed too much like a Grisham novel to believe it. It's getting clearer every day and it is looking longer and stronger for me.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Yea, I totally agree with that dog. The little rabbits they keep pulling out of their hat kinda shows they know people. Every time i read the "future projects" on their site i wonder who is behind each little entry. Its amazing how they look so huge but also appear so tiny
Posted by dog on :
We should start a new thread at the 10k
"CSHD it IS happening...."
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Glassman, I respect your view very much, I am curious what your take is on the current 8k. I know your probably busy, but it would be very much apprieciated. Thank you Taxback for your interpretation as well. Taxback, didn't you say you were an accountant or something. I haven't had time to read through the entire 8k yet (I'm at work) but will tonight. I have a feeling that it will be like reading Japanese. Thanks everyone and here's to a GREAT tomorrow!!!! GLTA
No Cassity... don't let the moniker confuse you. I am a programmer of financial related Internet based applications. I have had a small obsession with penny stock trading and the market in general for about 10 years now. Most of my initial clients were Mutual Fund companies or brokerages.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Tax..were you able to get the diapers changed and brought up to speed on this?
Posted by cassity on :
Thanks for the response Tax. How about Glassman? Posted by dog on :
Does this seem solid to you guys... and I'd like ius to pick this bash apart....
http://www. investorshub. com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12872428
Posted by mnvestor on :
The poster is not credible, he created a lie a couple of days ago about how the SEC is investigating CSHD, then he PMs multiple people and tells them to sell and txprincess will be on Dateline...weird, I know
Posted by glassman on :
sorry cassity.... i have had enough trouble over this one to last till next Aug... and that's no joke... i am not offering opinions... we have had a couple of threads on it up in free4all, and well... it's been ugly
i will just say that so far? i have found no reason to think Rufus is going to jail...
and dog? some of the same people that have been bashing this one the hardest? have been pumping another co that has unauditted financials at the same time as they bashed this one, go figure?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tax..were you able to get the diapers changed and brought up to speed on this?
It has been crazy around here tonite. I am watching the two year old girl, one year old boy, and 8 week old puppy. while my wife takes the eight year old girl to Girl Scouts. All while trying to keep up.
The boy keeps grabing the wireless keyboard, and mouse everytime I cross the room for one of the other two. LOL Hands are full... but keeping up. Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Does this seem solid to you guys... and I'd like ius to pick this bash apart....
Only one comment...you actually think that the "walstreet dude" is going to say..."they'll be mad at you?"
Yea, thats way too orchestrated....written specifically for an IHUB audience. IMO
Posted by 10of13 on :
Ahh Tax...LOL...you can't take care of 4-5 things at once? Just watch for that pup poopin on the floor while the boy goes over and plays with it...then you'll be in deep doo doo...
Posted by dog on :
True... I have noticed that bashers don't spend much time here...most likely because they have to compete with some intelligence.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Ahh Tax...LOL...you can't take care of 4-5 things at once? Just watch for that pup poopin on the floor while the boy goes over and plays with it...then you'll be in deep doo doo...
yup...don't go to sleep first...
Posted by laker08 on :
mikesc & BB, i just finished reading your answers regarding my question. i'm grateful =). thank you!
Posted by betting babe on :
LOL
well he did say "alas, i further..."
wow, those wall streeters are so clever
oo oo oo and you know, cuz those wall street dudes have all that time on their hands, our opinions are critical to their day...
"Wall Street Dude: i'm actually kind of excited to see what they say"
LMAO
oh, what a fun nite this is
~BB
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Does this seem solid to you guys... and I'd like ius to pick this bash apart....
Only one comment...you actually think that the "walstreet dude" is going to say..."they'll be mad at you?"
Posted by dog on :
What could possibly be gained? A run up from .20 to 1.60 would only yield 1.4 million dollars with a million shares..... I'm not seeing it. Who would commit such a high profile crime for that... split 10 different ways.LOL
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: LOL
well he did say "alas, i further..."
wow, those wall streeters are so clever
~BB
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Does this seem solid to you guys... and I'd like ius to pick this bash apart....
Only one comment...you actually think that the "walstreet dude" is going to say..."they'll be mad at you?"
meet the dumasses fantasy image of himself.
quote:Posted by: thehavenots In reply to: captain_ameritrade who wrote msg# 53676 Date: 8/23/2006 9:31:58 PM Post # of 53750
I was only referring to the fact that I had direct knowledge of some sort of investigation. I did not want it on the board. I took the courtesy to privately warn people. I had to fight for hours to keep it off the board to ward off a panick sell. I then followed up with real names and phone numbers to verify what I was told I spent most of yesterday doing so, and my oppinions changed to believing that if there is a problem it isn't serious, and may involve side issues, but not the whole deal.
When I spoke with the SEC enforcement, I told them the whole story, and they said there was no problem with what I did, because they cannot control the person who knew. They said they were willing to pursue information about anyone who posted my private messages publicy against my will, or threatened me for more information. I did not hand over names or posts. And just blew that part of the conversation off.
Posted by cassity on :
IHUB is a joke, I sat up last night reading posts and just ROFLMAO!!!! Best one liners anyone could ever think of. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Does this seem solid to you guys... and I'd like ius to pick this bash apart....
This guy is full of it. Do I have to quote myself again? Watch your sources, the MM's are hurting bad and they are going to put up a fight.
Posted by dog on :
Yeah... he's a wack job..... just looking around.
Posted by betting babe on :
i personally think mr havenot is a teenager
esp seeing as he named himself after a band comprised of twenty year olds...
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Heh, and he continues to post more. I could be watching television but this is better.
Who is to say the points he brought up aren't true?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Of corse he is haven't you been reading... He is getting it from WallStreetDude. Who I might say sounds so credible, I am convinced he is a real Wall Street Dude, NOT!!!
Come ON... Thank you for not telling them my name. HA!
Posted by dog on :
It's amazing... I'll post some beneficial DD over there, and noone even bothers to look.
Someone calls somebody a name or yells GO CSHD... and they all start to talk about it... weird
Posted by dog on :
wow ..i'm dyslexic today...
Posted by MHampton on :
It's like watching a demolition derby, you know you shouldn't be getting pleasure out of the smashups, but you just can't help yourself...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Geez, its just oozing over there!!
Who is to say the points he brought up aren't true?
Im definately not saying theyre not true. Id believe about anything at this point, but not enough to sell my shares. Posted by MHampton on :
Of course, it's even funnier when you realize that in addition to discussing a stock, we are sitting here discussing other people discussing a stock....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Geez, its just oozing over there!!
Now this one is funny!!! "I'm not much of a trader but I am an attorney. "
Well no kidding, you just told an entire message board you are selling out tomorrow. If he was a real trader he would be pumping it so it does run tomorrow and he gets out high.
You just have to ask yourselves what is the motive of these posts. That is one dumb attorney. Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by MHampton: Of course, it's even funnier when you realize that in addition to discussing a stock, we are sitting here discussing other people discussing a stock....
Haha, a collective "hmmmm" could be heard reading that
Posted by betting babe on :
don't tell anyone who i am, cuz i am...
*cue music* dum dum duuuuummmmm... swishhhh...
Wall Street DOOOOoooood
g'nite y'allz. it's been fun. catch yaz manana.
~BB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
A true superhero never reveals his real name. I heard that from Stan Lee on that horrible show they are playing. Posted by dog on :
Let me tell you... just because it's a legal document doesn't mean perfect grammar or correct spelling. You should see my divorce judgement and the filed paperwork... it's a joke... mispelling and grammatical errors galore.
Hope it's still legally effective though. Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
BB you would have to be "Wall street dudette"
Posted by dog on :
Nite BB... see you all in the mornin.
"Champagne wishes and caviar dreams..."
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by Livinonklendathu: BB you would have to be "Wall street dudette"
Naw, shes too classy for wall street. We will just keep her here. Posted by RyanPBF on :
I know someone else said this and so did I the other day. I wouldn't trust anything that bud750 and thehavenots post at Ihub. Last Friday I believe thehavenots posted that the 10k would be out this past friday. He didn't say he felt or in his opinion. He stated that it was a fact. Then the next thing he's posting about is the SEC was coming. And I guess they were in the form of an 8k
Posted by cassity on :
Correct me if I'm wrong, this 8k is a SEC filed document, so the SEC has looked at it and it has been given their stamp of approval right? So, is the SEC that stupid not to pick up on this "supposed" scandal. Without these documents I could see the "red flags", but what's the SEC good for if this isn't the case? Maybe I should ask wallstreet dude, he seems to know more than them. JMO Posted by TaxBack04 on :
1.49 Billion US dollars in SEC black and white... If it isn't true the author of said documents is headed for a black and white Federal issued prison uniform.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I don't think the SEC scrutinizes every document when it is filed but they will if there is a question. I don't think Rufas and Ben want to go to jail. I am more willing to bank on that than some anonomous BS artist that has an agenda or dangerous sense of humor.
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 1.49 Billion US dollars in SEC black and white... If it isn't true the author of said documents is headed for a black and white Federal issued prison uniform.
So if thats the case, disregarding what rufus/prs have said, what would be the general consensus on what the pps should be? Taking into account the 1.49 billion in assets alone, and then maybe a number including the JVs/subcompanies.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Correct me if I'm wrong, this 8k is a SEC filed document, so the SEC has looked at it and it has been given their stamp of approval right? So, is the SEC that stupid not to pick up on this "supposed" scandal. Without these documents I could see the "red flags", but what's the SEC good for if this isn't the case? Maybe I should ask wallstreet dude, he seems to know more than them. JMO :)
I don't think the SEC really looks these over but it IS a filing...not a PR
Posted by T e x on :
yes, vote with 10 here...
SEC "records" and "maintains"
highly doubtful, lol, that they have someone who "approves" a filing.
The filing is there, should SEC action be deemed necessary, later...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 1.49 Billion US dollars in SEC black and white... If it isn't true the author of said documents is headed for a black and white Federal issued prison uniform.
So if thats the case, disregarding what rufus/prs have said, what would be the general consensus on what the pps should be? Taking into account the 1.49 billion in assets alone, and then maybe a number including the JVs/subcompanies.
It sure is not 0.88 on the 97.5 Million outstanding confirmed by the TA last week.
That is a market cap of 84.8 Million dollars. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Correct me if I'm wrong, this 8k is a SEC filed document, so the SEC has looked at it and it has been given their stamp of approval right? So, is the SEC that stupid not to pick up on this "supposed" scandal. Without these documents I could see the "red flags", but what's the SEC good for if this isn't the case? Maybe I should ask wallstreet dude, he seems to know more than them. JMO
I don't think the SEC really looks these over but it IS a filing...not a PR
I was saying the same thing but you said it better. Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 1.49 Billion US dollars in SEC black and white... If it isn't true the author of said documents is headed for a black and white Federal issued prison uniform.
So if thats the case, disregarding what rufus/prs have said, what would be the general consensus on what the pps should be? Taking into account the 1.49 billion in assets alone, and then maybe a number including the JVs/subcompanies.
I thought it was 2.6 Billion... I'd gues target open of $30
Posted by dog on :
Here's some interesting math....
Posted by: 53chevy In reply to: HititUP who wrote msg# 53507 Date:8/23/2006 6:43:31 PM Post #of 53880
I believe you are correct in your analysis. RPH has committed to 2x book value:
UCC Funds $300M Caracas Group Bond $500M Lehman Bros Bond (A+) $579M ($450M Euro * $1.287 USD exchange) Finland Bond (AAA) $964M ($749M Euro * $1.287 USD)
TOTAL $2343M Authorized Shares ~111M Outstanding Shares ~97M Estimate Float ~26M Book Value Assets/share $21.11 2X Reset price $42.22
Plus whatever else is in the 10K....... this should even make the former CVSU holders happy. Looks like they will get the $34 they wanted......and can you imagine the implications of the short squeeze?
I am...
Holding Long and Strong
Posted by dog on :
Funny stuff that was just posted on HSM : just for fun
The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points:
147 Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) 132 Harry Truman (D) 122 Dwight D. Eisenhower (R) 174 John F. Kennedy (D) 126 Lyndon B. Johnson (D) 155 Richard M. Nixon (R) 121 Gerald Ford (R) 175 James E. Carter (D) 105 Ronald Reagan (R) 098 George HW Bush (R) 182 William J. Clinton (D) 091 George W. Bush (R)
The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest IQ, at 155.
President G. W. Bush was rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91. The six Democrat presidents had IQs with an average of 156, with President Clinton having the highest IQ, at 182.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Those numbers are good. I think we were just addressing what is current documented in todays 8K, and what a correction tomorrow should entail.
It is comparing apples and oranges, but my company in their last 10Q filed about a 1B in assets, and half the outstanding shares. If this was even caomparable. The average price of EEFT is $30.00. So twice the shares should bring the price down 50% which is about $15.00.
Throw in the 10K and all Rufas has promised and I think the $42 is very possible if not a bit lite. In anycase this is not an $0.88 stock or even a $1 anymore. Not in my eyes at least.
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Funny stuff that was just posted on HSM : just for fun
The study determined the following IQs of each president as accurate to within five percentage points...
Tring to explain it to my girl here, but she's not getting it... something about me not explaining it very clearly. Any help would be appreciated cuz I'm going to bed.
Peace
Posted by T e x on :
lol, tell her truth--you don't know Posted by dog on :
Oh.. that "peace" thing was a joke, because it looks like we are in the business of War . . .
Posted by dog on :
I think I have a loosely constructed understanding, that I'm apparently not very good at explaining.
And the more I read the top of the 8K starting with the Furia moniker, the more it seems that it still has a bit of mystery....
CSHD does not come up in symbol search at the SEC?
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, tell her truth--you don't know
Nah, I get the holdings company to the subs, etc., but the more I think about it, the more odd Furia seems? I don't know.... maybe it's the grand marnier talking.
Posted by T e x on :
always tomorrow...
me?
gonna get some rest. Could be a big day tomorrow....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog:
quote:Originally posted by T e x: lol, tell her truth--you don't know
Nah, I get the holdings company to the subs, etc., but the more I think about it, the more odd Furia seems? I don't know.... maybe it's the grand marnier talking.
One last thing and then I am going to bed.
The SEC issues a SIC number to public companies. CSHD now has Fronthaul's old SIC number which was Furia's original SIC number. Look up CSHD on Edgar it brings up Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
NEWS!!!!!
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Updates Shareholders and Files 8K on Current Events Thursday August 24, 12:03 am ET
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD - News), a Delaware Corporation announces that during the 10-K filing process the following current events have taken place. CSHD would like to announce the additional Deposit from the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation.
The Annex to the Global Funding Agreement brings a 749 Million Euro denominated Bond on the Republic of Finland with a 6% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The Bond holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite AAA rating).
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Republic of Finland 6% AAA
Common Code: 008120510
ISIN: FI0001004558
Copy and paste the following link into a browser to see 8K file: http://sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse- edgar?company=furia&CIK=&filenum=&state=&sic=&owner=include&action=getcompany
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
Posted by bigstocks on :
I knew they wouldnt believe that. They wont believe the 10k either. We're however, are suppose to believe them.
Posted by dog on :
Wasn't getting why the Furia name has to be used on each of the filing docs.... otherwise never mentioned.
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I know someone else said this and so did I the other day. I wouldn't trust anything that bud750 and thehavenots post at Ihub. Last Friday I believe thehavenots posted that the 10k would be out this past friday. He didn't say he felt or in his opinion. He stated that it was a fact. Then the next thing he's posting about is the SEC was coming. And I guess they were in the form of an 8k
thought you might get a laugh out of this, posted on IHUB couple of days ago... supposedly same email for both BUD750's... lol Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
Tring to explain it to my girl here, but she's not getting it... something about me not explaining it very clearly. Any help would be appreciated cuz I'm going to bed.
Peace
OK Furia mergered with Fronthaul which then became FHAL. CVSU Reverse merged into FHAL and then became CVSU but couldn't use that symbol so they became CSHC which couldn't be used so they became CSHD which isn't recognized by the SEC because the SB4 hasn't been filed yet so they still show the filings as FURIA. Now CVSU which became CSHC and then CSHD did a JV with Georgia Aerospace which is called AISS. Hope that clears it up for you. LOL
GLTA Wally
Posted by wallymac on :
Here is a link to a Google search for hypothecating bonds.
In trying to understand what is actually happening here I read through a few. IMO, the bonds have been placed with Conversion Solutions so that they can get the funding neccessary to launch the JV's and Subs. The bonds become assets which secure the financing. Some people have asked why would anyone do that? I think the 8K tells us. The companies placing them are not relinquishing their rights to the bonds and they are getting a percentage of the funds being borrowed. CSHD's business is to fund companies they borrow against the bonds to accomplish this. It's a win win situation. CSHD gets the funds they need and the organizations that place the bonds not only make the interest on the bonds that they originally obtained them for but get a percentage of the funds that are borrowed. I not sure if I'm making sense right now but hopefully it will lead someone with a clearer mind than mine to pick it up from here.
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: .... Throw in the 10K and all Rufas has promised and I think the $42 is very possible if not a bit lite. In anycase this is not an $0.88 stock or even a $1 anymore. Not in my eyes at least.
thats a correct assessment but inculdes only the first half of what we know of at this point.
You need to add in the $3.5 Billion dollars Rufus stated he had under contract out of the $15 Billion dollars lined up to invest in the corp.
We havent even begun the short squeeze yet. 16 - 48 million shares (rumour control actually places it higher), that will be covered. This stock will be a sight to behold.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Goodmorning I hope everyone has their flight gear ready. I haven't even ventured over to Ihub yet to see how their taking apart this 8k. I am sure they are working at it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: .... Throw in the 10K and all Rufas has promised and I think the $42 is very possible if not a bit lite. In anycase this is not an $0.88 stock or even a $1 anymore. Not in my eyes at least.
thats a correct assessment but inculdes only the first half of what we know of at this point.
You need to add in the $3.5 Billion dollars Rufus stated he had under contract out of the $15 Billion dollars lined up to invest in the corp.
We havent even begun the short squeeze yet. 16 - 48 million shares (rumour control actually places it higher), that will be covered. This stock will be a sight to behold.
Oh I think you are right just hard to talk about when right now it is so undervalued. GLTU! GLTA! Today should be the second begining to "The Great Corection!" Ha! Posted by trade04 on :
damn i hate waking up early.. i like to be up at 9:15....sighh...
[ August 24, 2006, 08:17: Message edited by: trade04 ]
Posted by Hustla on :
Whats up people. Today is gonna be one of the best days ever. For once we can say screw U MMs. Time to squeeze the hell outta them. Between CSHD and ACTC today on stem cell. So many people are gonna make a lot of cash.
Smile people the sky's shining green today!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Yeah it sucks to get up this early and kill this much time before the bell.
Posted by dog on :
hello hello
Do you think we will really see the correction? I'm thinking we'll top out at $1.20 today... this stock hasn't acted right from the begiining.
I hope for more...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Wow, Morning Board! Just got caught up (pages!) -nice job girls
Also: Dear Mr. #####:
Thank you for your email.
In reviewing the notes on CSHD, I found that this security is not eligible for short selling.
Mr. #####, do you have any clarifying questions regarding this matter? If you have additional questions, please feel free to reply to this email.
Sincerely,
Aaron Durham Investment Specialist
NOTICE: All email sent to or from the Charles Schwab corporate email system may be retained, monitored, and/or reviewed by Schwab personnel.
(c) 2006 Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. All rights reserved. Member SIPC - http://www.sipc.org/ =========================================== FYI. We know the deal now ~ I consider this dead and buried now ~
GL today!
I'll work up Resis/support levels now and post, cause I think we'll ned them, see it "moving" some today! LOL ~~
"May our up Gaps NEVER be filled from here on! Posted by RyanPBF on :
I think actc might steal some buyers from here. Which will probably be a good thing. Hopefully this just has a nice steady climb and not a huge run up and retrace.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Support/Resistance
Type Value Conf. resist. 1.13 2 resist. 1.04 3 supp 0.83 6 supp 0.70 3
Analysis Overall Bullish (0.30)
Open Gaps Direction Date range up Aug-09-2006 to 1.05 down Aug-22-2006 0.82 to 0.8 down Aug-16-2006 0.865 to 0.845 down Aug-15-2006 1.04 to 1.035
Chart Indicators Ind. short Inter Long EMA VBu VBu VBu MACD VBu VBu VBu RSI VBe TDD Bu Fibs Bu Bu Bu Highs N N N Lows Bu N N Trends N N N Stoch. VBe
Recent CandleStick Analysis Very Bullish Date Candle Aug-23-2006 Bullish Engulfing
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I think actc might steal some buyers from here. Which will probably be a good thing. Hopefully this just has a nice steady climb and not a huge run up and retrace.
more like actc will soak up most of the daytraders which will be healthy for cshd
Posted by RyanPBF on :
That's what I meant.
Posted by dog on :
Nice buy pressure on L2's
Posted by Chartwalker on :
So how much of a gapper today? 5 cents?... .10 cents?.... .20?!!...
Posted by casviper on :
you see actc going up further??? I think it was a good run already.. Shouldn't there be a pull back today??
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by casviper: you see actc going up further??? I think it was a good run already.. Shouldn't there be a pull back today??
im sure inbetween PRing they got the tech..and actually using it, the price will go down if you're interested in buying imo
Posted by dog on :
ACTC wil slow up... but rise...level out by tomorrow?
Posted by Sandusky on :
That sucker made national headlines yesterday...splashed all over msn and elsewhere. I think she runs again today...
quote:Originally posted by casviper: you see actc going up further??? I think it was a good run already.. Shouldn't there be a pull back today??
Posted by dog on :
True... follow the hype
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
If someone already posted this I apologize. I just got up and saw this:
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Updates Shareholders and Files 8K on Current Events
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC Bulletin Board: CSHD), a Delaware Corporation announces that during the 10-K filing process the following current events have taken place.
CSHD would like to announce the additional Deposit from the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation.
The Annex to the Global Funding Agreement brings a 749 Million Euro denominated Bond on the Republic of Finland with a 6% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The Bond holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite AAA rating). The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Republic of Finland 6% AAA
Common Code: 008120510
ISIN: FI0001004558
Copy and paste the following link into a browser to see 8K file:
Posted by dog on :
C'mon.... where do you think you are ... iHub?
This is Allstocks baby, and we are on point!
LOL ... saw it last night... someone posted the minute it hit the net...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
lol, I figured I'd embarrass myself. Right on dog! Thats why I'm an ALLSTOCKS fan!!! Chart looks to be turning nice. RSI was hugging 49.98 yesterday and shifted to 51.18 at EOD. Accumulation has turned upward and Aroon is still showing downtrend with an uptrend very soon to come. I think they are playing this stock just right and is in very good hands. I will go ahead and pick up another third of my position this morn. Still cheaper than .97. http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=CSHD&p=D&b=5&g=0&id=p03931577964 Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: C'mon.... where do you think you are ... iHub?
This is Allstocks baby, and we are on point!
LOL ... saw it last night... someone posted the minute it hit the net...
That was New2stocks!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
OT I think ACTC runs again. The hype is enormous.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I don't see how it can't run... Alot of week hands left, now they'll be returning I'm sure, and some long longs will be adding...
I would!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
The float is like 17 million. I actually sold about 5k of cshd yesterday to buy some actc. I did this to hopefully increase my position here. Hopefully it works out I've been beside myself all night hoping it works out.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Nice little gapper
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: The float is like 17 million. I actually sold about 5k of cshd yesterday to buy some actc. I did this to hopefully increase my position here. Hopefully it works out I've been beside myself all night hoping it works out.
Yeah if you have extra to play with, there should be 1 or 2 EASY flips today with this. I'm thinking in the AM and EOD -at least ~
Posted by trade04 on :
en fuegoooo
Posted by dog on :
Haven't seen this on CSHD in awhile... premarket yeah..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
3 x 10,000 at .87 premarket!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Good morning everyone!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
looks like we'll be up over a buck again today ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by dog: C'mon.... where do you think you are ... iHub?
This is Allstocks baby, and we are on point!
LOL ... saw it last night... someone posted the minute it hit the net...
That was New2stocks!
Hey Now... Chart He got the 8K but I got the PR last night at 12:03!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
This promises to be the beginning of an amazing day.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
hey New2 ~
Posted by dog on :
Good all over... I could just hug somebody..
Posted by trade04 on :
back above a buck =)
Posted by Vin on :
Morning all. Decided to step out of the shadows again today for a bit. Some really interesting stuffola going on with a bunch of stocks today. Wish I had a bit more change to toss around, but I'm strong here. GLTA
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd we're off!!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
WOOO HOOOO!
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
This is all we are getting, I figured with this news...we'd gap to at least $1.50 to start
Posted by 10of13 on :
Volume is rather high...looks like we are going to have lots of day traders and flippers...
Posted by trade04 on :
lots of profit takers on ACTC, some of those will no doubt convert to cshd imo
Posted by RichBy26 on :
thin after $1 !!!!
Posted by trade04 on :
effing nuts...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
here comes dollarland!!
Posted by Squire38 on :
148700 buy * $0.99?? DAMN!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is crap... more buying pressure please MM need a reason to let go.
Posted by bigstocks on :
Alright who bought the 148,700 shares
Posted by Chartwalker on :
148700 x .97!!!!
Posted by cassity on :
The point is look at the volume so far, we have only had a little over 500k in volume and we are up 17%. NO FOAT, NO FLOAT. I got another 8000k this morning. took 5 min. GLTA
Posted by Vin on :
Looks like the fun may be over for a while...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is stupid... when you buy your shares make sure you slap the MM selling it to you. I might make them let go of the price.
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
No one seems to believe in this....only .99
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Looks like the fun may be over for a while...
wtf??? man go take your meds!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
I expected this to just fly this morning.....
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I expected this to just fly this morning.....
this guy again lol....didnt this fly from .70 geez, this wench is a real subtle joke of a basher...
Posted by Vin on :
I'm with ya on the expectatons...BUT, let's keep in mind that todays price really isn't the finish line for us. Better things lie ahead. My bigger concern is that what little faith people have in this stock, that after the reset, everyone jumps ship. I plan on holding (although I may be white knuckled to my chair). Hope there's a few of you out there as well.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
looking good Billy Ray. Feeling good Winthrope
Posted by Chartwalker on :
pullbacks are normal, and this has always been a flippers dream... (expected) Let's see what she does on the bounce
But... there is a Gap to fill....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Someone else point out a company to me with over a Billion in assets less than a 100 million in outstanding. That is trading at this level.
I am not getting emotional over the stock. I am getting angry at how this is supposed to be a fair trade system. I am really thinking of calling for my certs at this point.
Posted by new2stocks on :
For one trade04 I am not a basher and 2, I am not a guy....so lay off the insults.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I expected this to just fly this morning.....
this guy again lol....didnt this fly from .70 geez, this guy is a real subtle joke of a basher...
Basher?.... New2stocks was the one who caught the 8k last night seconds off the press!!!!!!
Posted by trade04 on :
i could care less about the price now, give me a 10k =)
Posted by Vin on :
Nice find last night New. Although I gotta admit you made me lose some sleep over the news. Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I expected this to just fly this morning.....
this guy again lol....didnt this fly from .70 geez, this guy is a real subtle joke of a basher...
Basher?.... New2stocks was the one who caught the 8k last night seconds off the press!!!!!!
and that makes someone not a basher? its clear new isnt even in. i know a subtle basher when i see one, this isnt HER first time
Posted by cassity on :
It's called a dip people, and we are going back up right now. They (MM) will do a lot of crazy chit to get shares. Hold on fellas!!
Posted by Vin on :
I feel some angst today.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: I'm with ya on the expectatons...BUT, let's keep in mind that todays price really isn't the finish line for us. Better things lie ahead. My bigger concern is that what little faith people have in this stock, that after the reset, everyone jumps ship. I plan on holding (although I may be white knuckled to my chair). Hope there's a few of you out there as well.
I'm with you Vin, I plan on holding my position for at least a year for tax purposes...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I expected this to just fly this morning.....
this guy again lol....didnt this fly from .70 geez, this guy is a real subtle joke of a basher...
Basher?.... New2stocks was the one who caught the 8k last night seconds off the press!!!!!!
and that makes someone not a basher? its clear new isnt even in. i know a subtle basher when i see one, this isnt HER first time
As God as my witness, I know this person is NOT a basher! LOOK where they live..... Look where I live.....
Posted by 10of13 on :
Cool it guys...New has been here a while...a statement was made..."thought this would fly"...not a basher...a simply statement...
Let's all get along now K?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: I feel some angst today.
Manipulation crap!!! You think!
Posted by trade04 on :
bootyful shake
Posted by Chartwalker on :
AT Support level now.. Bounce now?
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Support/Resistance
Type Value Conf. resist. 1.13 2 resist. 1.04 3 supp 0.83 6 supp 0.70 3
Analysis Overall Bullish (0.30)
Open Gaps Direction Date range up Aug-09-2006 to 1.05 down Aug-22-2006 0.82 to 0.8 down Aug-16-2006 0.865 to 0.845 down Aug-15-2006 1.04 to 1.035
Chart Indicators Ind. short Inter Long EMA VBu VBu VBu MACD VBu VBu VBu RSI VBe TDD Bu Fibs Bu Bu Bu Highs N N N Lows Bu N N Trends N N N Stoch. VBe
Recent CandleStick Analysis Very Bullish Date Candle Aug-23-2006 Bullish Engulfing
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning.... Who cares, we are all here to make money Let's not act like ihub glta
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Nice find last night New. Although I gotta admit you made me lose some sleep over the news.
Thanks Vin! I don't think many of us got much sleep after that news last night! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am calming down... I think. Just pecause this share price is a joke and the MM's are the clowns responsible. Reading how to call for my certs. Should be much better real soon.
Posted by Vin on :
...nothing that a pot or two of coffee can't correct.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Vin: Nice find last night New. Although I gotta admit you made me lose some sleep over the news.
Thanks Vin! I don't think many of us got much sleep after that news last night!
I did!!! LOL ~ I was dead after the other night! LOL ~
Posted by dog on :
Everyone take a Valium and enjoy the ride.... wow... volatile group today. LOL
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I've never seen one thing that would lead me to believe new2stocks was a basher. I think she's done a very good job here.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I can't believe how easy that gap filled! But it's good to close the door behind you so you can move on ~ Posted by dog on :
New is no basher... everybody chill and give it a rest...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I've never seen one thing that would lead me to believe new2stocks was a basher. I think she's done a very good job here.
Thank you Ryan.... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I have not seen one thing in my DD that would lead me to believe the share price would be as low as 0.91 but here we are...
On a side note new2stocks is not a basher. but the jury is still out on trade04...
Is it the pot calling the kettle?
Posted by Vin on :
Maybe she's a basher "wanna be". They're the worst breed! just kidding New!
Posted by dog on :
MM's are working us again.... no new shares to buy...
Posted by Sandusky on :
Tax you can request certs w/ TDA online (for $40). Why are you considering at this time?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Someone have the number for the TA. Let's make sure new shares weren't dumped into the market. Outstanding should be around 97 million.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Anyone consider a share count for us Allstock holders?
I have 700 shares!
Posted by dog on :
35,000 and growing
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: Tax you can request certs w/ TDA online (for $40). Why are you considering at this time?
Ultimate way to fight the manipulation. If my name is on the slips they can't play with them.
Additionally, I have said before I am long, and this share price is very very wrong. Flippers or not... from the DD nothing should keep this stock below 2.50 and greater at this point.
I am glad Rufas planned a reset. I am starting to think that is the only way we will actually see the price where it should be. They are not going to let go.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
7000 here. Ive influenced 3 others into roughly 25000 more though. Posted by Vin on :
Just a side note since we were mentioning it earlier...ACTC is in the red now. Jumped up around 25% earlier, but a ton of profit taking after that.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
12,060 and growing ~
Posted by Sandusky on :
Stupid Q? When you get certs what happens when you sell...anything different?
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: Tax you can request certs w/ TDA online (for $40). Why are you considering at this time?
Ultimate way to fight the manipulation. If my name is on the slips they can't play with them.
Additionally, I have said before I am long, and this share price is very very wrong. Flippers or not... from the DD nothing should keep this stock below 2.50 and greater at this point.
I am glad Rufas planned a reset. I am starting to think that is the only way we will actually see the price where it should be. They are not going to let go.
Posted by bigstocks on :
10,000 here
Posted by TheUnknown on :
15,000 here
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Anyone consider a share count for us Allstock holders?
I have 700 shares!
Catia 7,000 Dog 35,000 Stockstar69 700 --------------------- 42,700
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: 12,060 and growing ~
Gee I wonder who "The Unknown" is....
Posted by Sandusky on :
2000
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yeah this share price is BS big time, but Rufus will take care of that.
Posted by bigstocks on :
42,700 10,000 mine 52,700
Posted by pennydewd on :
3500 here
Posted by TheUnknown on :
Just another new stock holder that's been watching this board for about three months. A newbie.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by TheUnknown: Just another new stock holder that's been watching this board for about three months. A newbie.
That's cool...
Posted by milliam on :
Almost 15,000 here. I want to add more, but I don't know if I can swing it.
Posted by Vin on :
a bit over 7,000 here
Posted by SherriT on :
I have 900, but will buy more very soon....I really thought this was going to go higher this morning.....
Posted by RyanPBF on :
20000 for me
Posted by luvforever on :
3600` here Posted by staretsky55 on :
2369 shares. wanting more
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I do not blame nor do I have a problem with flipping a stock. There is good money in it and it keeps volatility healthy.
Some joker MM saying I am not going to fill that order because it will hurt my current short position. That I mind, and that is where my current blame is focused. Everyone is here because they feel their shares are valuable, and rare. Well these so called market makers are trying to tell us the opposite. They are trying to say there are millions available and we can flip them back an forth like cheese burgers.
They are liars, and they have nothing. Nothing but air. I can't prove it but a call for certs would definitely force their hand. I think they are bluffing and I think we shareholders have all the slips.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm not even worried at all....
Gearing up for the next BS rumor that you know will come! lol ~
But right now enjoying the cruize ~
Posted by dog on :
They are just handshaking back and forth trying to create volume and tell you your stock is only worth .88. That will only work for so long....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
By the way a puny 16000 here, but wanting more.
Posted by Fredgrasshopper on :
3650 here
Posted by dog on :
Mirror trade, after mirror trade... splitting mirror trades too.... same a yesterday
Posted by casviper on :
i have 2000 shares. thats all i plan on buying. this can go either way so i'm playing it safe.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Now with a reset... -when is there a count of shares? Or when/how would we be able to find out just how big this coming squeeze is going to be?...
Posted by Sandusky on :
So say I call for certs...get them. What happens? I get a package in the mail? My broker has actual paper that says "good for 1 share of XYZ"? Then say I want to sell...do I enter my order online as usual? mail the package back? I'm only half kidding here...no idea what "calling in certs" ACTUALLY means.
Like I said, probably stupid questions...just wondering how it works.
Posted by unclerudy on :
10K shares for me.
Posted by cassity on :
25910 shares for me!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
IMo..not a good idea to "state" how many shares one has...
Sandusky...IMO asking for the paper Certs...does nothing but create paperwork...you can "get them" in physical form...BUT in doing this...there are fees involved...AND when you want to sell them...you have to return the physical certs before you can sell...it creates a longer process...and in no way do i see that it will stop the MM's from doing what they are doing right now..."creating buys and sells with out having shares"
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: IMo..not a good idea to "state" how many shares one has...
Sandusky...IMO asking for the paper Certs...does nothing but create paperwork...you can "get them" in physical form...BUT in doing this...there are fees involved...AND when you want to sell them...you have to return the physical certs before you can sell...it creates a longer process...and in no way do i see that it will stop the MM's from doing what they are doing right now..."creating buys and sells with out having shares"
Leave it to 10 to ruin every one's fun! J/K Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: So say I call for certs...get them. What happens? I get a package in the mail? My broker has actual paper that says "good for 1 share of XYZ"? Then say I want to sell...do I enter my order online as usual? mail the package back? I'm only half kidding here...no idea what "calling in certs" ACTUALLY means.
Like I said, probably stupid questions...just wondering how it works.
-I've never done that either... "?" -anyone?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by Greenboy on :
wy in the hell can they let that thing run? I am kinda new around? learning as i go along. i don't know how MM can control a stock like this is BS. i have made one good trade so far after dat i am just Losing my money. HELP! HELP! HELP!
i am so fustrated of pennys, but i don't give up like that.
Posted by trade04 on :
we are number 2 on most actively traded in dollars. dwarfed by actc
Posted by Aaron$ on :
3500
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
10of13 - I disagree that there is "no" benefit in haveing you name on the shares. It does slow things down when you wish to sell but even a small call for certs will scare MM's to cover. MM shorting relys on anonimous shares. They have their seats to worry about and they have to balance every EOD due to regulation SHO.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is old (June 26) but I just found this on M N 1.
Don't ask I was just surfing.
http://www.M N 1.com/pdf/Fhal_knobias.pdf
Posted by luvforever on :
Well if you have certs which i know my aunt passed and left the stock to my uncle he had to wait for them to clear and he got what they were worth at time of death and he had the option to buy them back in his name at current price whether it was up or down from current t/o/d but with living peeps he was told it would sell at price once they recieved them.. hope that helps not sure 100% Posted by thecon00 on :
i have 28600
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
I wonder if CVSU will ever fix the typo on their site. It says BDA after CSHD and im quite sure its meant to be DBA (Doing business as). It was correct back when it said CVSU but they changed it with the new symbol.
Yes, thats how bored ive become of CSHD. Posted by 10of13 on :
IMO...one of the reasons that Rufas suggested to "get the certs"...was not only to do as Tax suggests...but more so to slow the "sell off process" when this is reset... let's face the majority of people that are holding right now are thinking of dumping the second that the PPS is reset... well...Rufas doesn't want his stock to dive like a submarine...so slow the process... Ask everyone to get their certs...which will make the MM's chances of having to cover a little more of a possibility...AND anyone with Certs will have to "file those certs" to sell them...the stock can't fall as hard...as fast...giving the "institutional buyers that rufas claims to have stepping in a chance to keep the PPS up...before all of those certs get traded...Just my thoughts...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
that's very logical 10 ~
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
It also keeps people from flipping every day i suppose. Things would stabilize more i would imagine.
Posted by dog on :
This will be a fight to the end. Don't we get short report today at EOD?
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Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
at 4pm yup!
Posted by trade04 on :
gonna stabilize around here i guess, i'm hitting up the gym see you all laterrrrr
Posted by Sandusky on :
Thanks 10 & Tax,
Isn't there a time period in which shorts have to be covered...something to do with the SHO list? If so, wouldn't that serve the same purpose as calling certs to pressure MM's?
Posted by luvforever on :
whoops sorry...hehe Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I agree with that 10 I think is is to slow down a pending sell-off. And for some reason we all are afraid of it because it might slow down our ability to dump after the reset. But if you really look at the current situation do you think any of us are going to honestly be able to sell all our shares before an MM takes a trade for 1.00 or 0.88 or more. He told us this to help protect us "and" his reset price.
Ideally we would all be restricted for a few months while the MM's are forced to cover. Personally waiting a bit longer and having the payday promised is much better than watching it slip by in a blink of the eye.
Certs would be our best move against the MM's but by no means is it going to prevent them from manipulating following the reset.
Posted by trade04 on :
didnt rufus give a 100 dollar price target or something..whos holding for that? Posted by dog on :
He was talking about $80 PPS by October...
Posted by milliam on :
Seems to me a call for certs will do nothing. I'm guessing most all of this is naked shorting. From what I've read here, the only thing a MM would have to do is buy back a small amount of shares and resell them. This would reset their 3-day covering timeline. Is this correct thinking?
Now, if everyone called for their certs, maybe, just maybe something would happen. That, of course, will never happen IMO.
I'm beginning to wonder if there is actually a way the MM's can be beat here. I wanted to ask Rufus that on one of the Paltalk interviews.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Stockstar69: [qb] Anyone consider a share count for us Allstock holders?
I have 700 shares!
Aaron 3,500 Bigstock....10,000 Cassity.....25,910 Casviper....2,000 Catia.......7,000 Catia's pal.25,000 Chart.......12,060 Dog.........35,000 FredGrass....3,650 Luv..........3,600 Milliam.....15,000 PennyD.......3,500 RyanPBF.....20,000 Sandusky.....2,000 Sherrit........900 Staret.......2,369 Stockstar69....700 Taxback.....16,000 TheUnknown..15,000 Unclerudy...10,000 Vin..........7,000 --------------------- ............220,189 total as of about 11:00am
[ August 24, 2006, 11:17: Message edited by: Stockstar69 ]
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: He was talking about $80 PPS by October...
thanks, now im gonna try again to leave baha
Posted by trade04 on :
10,000 4 me
Posted by Sandusky on :
Personally, I imagine most would try to dump most and hold a small position to see what happens. So what if a person only called in the number of shares they intend to hold post reset...would that squeeze the MM's enough to prevent major manipulation?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
milliam - I am looking at the current price. No I don't think we can beat them. Especially, in the greed department. If we can draw out the process we can maybe... maybe... apply pressure to their timelines.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I still do not plan on selling 1 share under $5. They can kiss my...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: milliam - I am looking at the current price. No I don't think we can beat them. Especially, in the greed department. If we can draw out the process we can maybe... maybe... apply pressure to their timelines.
At best... -agreed.
Posted by plni on :
I have 500 shares
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
M N 1 just made a brief comment
Posted by RyanPBF on :
what did they say tax
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Nothing just quoted our crappy price. I sent them an email with last nights news, going to see if they get it.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am at work this morning... who wants to be on the radio? 866-495-4122 OK... I am chicken. Bawk bawk.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I'm holding 2,200 Ima I'll give them 200 at $5 to protect investment, but then my 2000 is valued much higher... Much Higher btw I talke to an etrade guy and in the process I asked him if I was missing anything but what he gathered from teh 8K is that CSHD at lest has that asset filed yesterday.... as if we didn't know that already. This sucker is legit. and the illegitament MM's are suckers. JMHO. If I had a bat and a room full of MM's I'd start swinging.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
LOL Ima... I will buy the poor college student a good bat, anybody want to get the cost of the room!
Posted by pepa z depa on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Stockstar69: [qb] Anyone consider a share count for us Allstock holders?
I have 700 shares!
Aaron 3,500 Bigstock....10,000 Cassity.....25,910 Casviper....2,000 Catia.......7,000 Catia's pal.25,000 Chart.......12,060 Dog.........35,000 FredGrass....3,650 Luv..........3,600 Milliam.....15,000 PennyD.......3,500 RyanPBF.....20,000 Sandusky.....2,000 Sherrit........900 Staret.......2,369 Stockstar69....700 Taxback.....16,000 TheUnknown..15,000 Unclerudy...10,000 Vin..........7,000 --------------------- ............220,189 total as of about 11:00am
I own 9k from former 100k (I bought it at the times of FHAL for 8 cents.)
Posted by Danny_K on :
3500 shs for me..
Posted by a surfer on :
I have 6500, Talked dad into 25000. LOL
Posted by fhalyesss on :
I have 1752
Posted by Btm-Fishing on :
I have an old 38 inch Louisville slugger Poor CS could borrow.... solid wood.....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Btm-Fishing: I have an old 38 inch Louisville slugger Poor CS could borrow.... solid wood.....
Helllllloooooo EBAY!!! lol !
Posted by Chartwalker on :
That's some mini baseline we are laying down at this level..... hmmm.
Posted by milliam on :
Well, maybe Rufus can give us a stategic battle plan to get the MM's.
I wonder if the past two bond PR's have been a disappointment for them. I would assume they believed the first would have bumped the pps up. Maybe this time, they figured they'd 8k the info and that would make the pps rise. I have a feeling we're not the only ones that are frustrated.
Posted by AzGunn on :
I have 4,000, trying to scratch up enough for 6,000 more.
Posted by Greenboy on :
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
man, if that thing don't go up i'm gonna do something stupid
fustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
I really can't see this moving until the 10k and merger filings are done...
I am hoping that they will PR the 10K the day before they put it out...even in the morning...so we can have a nice run... release the 10K...another little run... relese a pr about the 10K...little run Release a pr about the s4 filing...run Release S4 filing...run (?S4 i think) Release PR of stock being reset...run and finally the reset..
That would give us 6-7 days of Running/flipping and finally the reset!
Money to be made...before during and after the process!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I can guarantee you this is not what Rufas was aiming for. It should be up around book value right about now. These are not fluff releases or filings. but their effect has been less than inspiring.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Greenboy: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
man, if that thing don't go up i'm gonna do something stupid
fustrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Lock & LOAD!!" Muh hu ha ha ~~
Posted by milliam on :
10...the way this thing is going, I'm not sure that any of those things would cause this to run...well, they actually would cause it to, but I don't think the MM's would let it.
Man, I might have to get me one of those pyramids...I'm feeling a bit paranoid. :0
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
He needs to do something to help this situation. We are holding like he wanted now he has to show us why we are doing so. 8K helped me, but it obviously did nothing to shorty.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by Btm-Fishing: I have an old 38 inch Louisville slugger Poor CS could borrow.... solid wood.....
LOL.. if it comes back bloody you wouldn't be upset with me would you???
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Where is the buying pressure, where are his firends with the big coin? Rufas dig deep Man! Get us support for the correction!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I am having a hard time with this 8k had little to no affect on the pps
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
2.87%??? green is not a correct move on an billion dollars in new assets in a company with a market cap under 90 Million.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I agree, that PPS is just not right. Which yes if we are that "short" I see why they are capping it... but what the...
little action now... bout time ~ YAWN!!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
almost every tarde at .90 has been for 2500 shares?.... hmmm.
Posted by mnvestor on :
Apparently scottrade was having server problems last night and news alerts did not occur for PR or 8k
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well that is the lot size currently.
Posted by cassity on :
Holy crap, ton of buys coming in!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I am not a "pumper" by trade but I am 'bout to.
This stock is getting my attention big-time where the question of manipulation is concerned. Don't mind me if you see me flash something about this stock on every english speaking board on the Internet. What trader with a $100 would not like to know about this sale on shares?
Trust me I am getting out of character big-time, I learned my lesson about recomending stock to friends, family, and strangers a long, long time ago.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I am not a "pumper" by trade but I am 'bout to.
This stock is getting my attention big-time where the question of manipulation is concerned. Don't mind me if you see me flash something about this stock on every english speaking board on the Internet. What trader with a $100 would not like to know about this sale on shares?
Trust me I am getting out of character big-time, I learned my lesson about recomending stock to friends, family, and strangers a long, long time ago.
I say good luck ~ ha
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
There was a stock called Music Maker along time ago that beat me and my friends up pretty bad.
By the way, how much does a PR cost? Can I put one out... Hmmmm... beter not... never mind! Posted by cool AZ on :
I too agree that it would be cool to lay some pressure on these mm's. Certs does give one specific ownership of those shares.
Remember, Rufus suggested we get the certs ... we are the ones saying he might be trying to hedge against a sell-off at the reset.
I think he was trying to give us a clue as to how to pressure the mm's, and, maybe avoid some sort of settlement period, after the reset, for the shorts to cover.
Personally, I feel Rufus has that reset play all layed out ... I do not think he's worried about the reset pps sustainability.
Personal - 22,450 Friends & Family - 25,000
Total - 47,450
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
How much for a 30 second ad spot on CNBC?
HUGE STOCK SALE!!! for a limited time... I hope.
Posted by milliam on :
A little run here...someone must have called for their certs .
This is still crazy though. Has anyone called the TA? If not, where do I find the number (without wading through 1000's of pages of past posts)?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
In looking back and all that Rufus said and his attitude I can see why! those deals all took time, and... I too think he has things figured out, heck waaaaaaay back when he was already saying that he ""HAD"" institutional investors ready to go...
So I'm not to worried. Confused a little maybe... Worried about my $$.... -no
FYI ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Maybe I will start out small and put a video on youtube.com. I could shake my azz to Shakiera while I hold a sign saying "Buy CSHD you dope!"
Would that be effective or what?
Posted by milliam on :
Another thing on the calling for certs...didn't Chartwalker find out that most (all?) brokers don't loan out stocks under $2.50 a share?
In contradiction to this though, someone talked with TDA margin and they said there are shares available to short.
Man, this Wall Street stuff is just plain crazy. There should be more movies about this.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Forgive me if I'm rehashing BUT... if you physically hold the certificates those shares CANNOT be shorted?? That would definately come into play after the repricing to $15.00 / $25.00.
I believe that is a fact but can someone verify that?
quote:Originally posted by cool AZ: I too agree that it would be cool to lay some pressure on these mm's. Certs does give one specific ownership of those shares.
Remember, Rufus suggested we get the certs ... we are the ones saying he might be trying to hedge against a sell-off at the reset.
I think he was trying to give us a clue as to how to pressure the mm's, and, maybe avoid some sort of settlement period, after the reset, for the shorts to cover.
Personally, I feel Rufus has that reset play all layed out ... I do not think he's worried about the reset pps sustainability.
Personal - 22,450 Friends & Family - 25,000
Total - 47,450
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Another thing on the calling for certs...didn't Chartwalker find out that most (all?) brokers don't loan out stocks under $2.50 a share?
In contradiction to this though, someone talked with TDA margin and they said there are shares available to short.
Man, this Wall Street stuff is just plain crazy. There should be more movies about this.
that was me that called the margin dept at TD Ameritrade. The stock is marginable and they have shares available to borrow for shorting. You must have a margin account and $2.50 in cash in that account for every share you borrow (a safety umbrella for them).
But you and an individual can absolutely short cshd shares.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh woooa as me... where is the half naked Indian and the Van Morrison music when you need them.
Posted by luvforever on :
Okay this sucks...Let me vent... I want to see a lot of money showing in my freakin account! I dont want to take it out Im in for the looong term but give me more this is screwed up! Thanks for letting me vent gonna go do something to take my mind off of this... Posted by cassity on :
NITE has been controlling this all day, once they get their a$$ out of the way, I think we'll move up! IMO
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Another thing on the calling for certs...didn't Chartwalker find out that most (all?) brokers don't loan out stocks under $2.50 a share?
In contradiction to this though, someone talked with TDA margin and they said there are shares available to short.
Man, this Wall Street stuff is just plain crazy. There should be more movies about this.
TDA on my post was the FIRST place I called, their reply was the same as Schwab.. -and I didn't talk to the first person who answered the phone... -Maybe that's why someone was tol they could. "?"
I don't feel the need to go there anymore... I know the deal ~ Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: NITE has been controlling this all day, once they get their a$$ out of the way, I think we'll move up! IMO
Someone sell NITE a bunch of real shares so he will get his fat azz off the price!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Another thing on the calling for certs...didn't Chartwalker find out that most (all?) brokers don't loan out stocks under $2.50 a share?
In contradiction to this though, someone talked with TDA margin and they said there are shares available to short.
Man, this Wall Street stuff is just plain crazy. There should be more movies about this.
TDA on my post was the FIRST place I called, their reply was the same as Schwab.. -and I didn't talk to the first person who answered the phone... -Maybe that's why someone was tol they could. "?"
I don't feel the need to go there anymore... I know the deal ~
you are more than welcome to call the margin dept. Multiple people have, and they confirmed what I said. But you must talk to the margin dept.
TDA is huge and has far more phone monkeys than subject matter experts.
Posted by milliam on :
I thought it was you, sceptor, but I didn't want to get anyone's name wrong and I'm too lazy to look back...sorry
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Another thing on the calling for certs...didn't Chartwalker find out that most (all?) brokers don't loan out stocks under $2.50 a share?
In contradiction to this though, someone talked with TDA margin and they said there are shares available to short.
Man, this Wall Street stuff is just plain crazy. There should be more movies about this.
that was me that called the margin dept at TD Ameritrade. The stock is marginable and they have shares available to borrow for shorting. You must have a margin account and $2.50 in cash in that account for every share you borrow (a safety umbrella for them).
But you and an individual can absolutely short cshd shares.
Correct 100% -and you can do that at TDA... But that's like making your own gas at $25 a gallon! LOL ~~
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
So has anyone thought of calling NITE and talking to someone about the pps the 8K etc. I can't right now.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Awww forget NITE let him move his own fat azz off the price. Hold tight everyone. I am going to lunch.
I know I am... I got a vice grip on my slips.
TB
Posted by milliam on :
Chart, sceptor...I wasn't trying to bring up a contradiction (although that's the word I used ). I was just trying to figure out how they could be shorting real shares. I still think most of this is naked shorting, but I don't have a clue. The shorting of the shares (if you can or cannot) is not my question. I just wonder if they actually have shares to short with and where are they getting them from.
Sorry if I ticked anyone off. Milliam
Posted by Chartwalker on :
BTW.. The $2.50 cover of each share WAS in my original post...
For the record I had it right, right from the beginning (page 23 I believe)
Just making this point because I did go over everything with a fine toothed comb, that's why it took all day and night, -didn't want to "machine gun" a bunch of facts at everyone.
Posted by new2stocks on :
Didn't some people on here try to short CSHD and was unable to?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I did to see if it would work. Reading everything I didn't have the 2.50 cash per every share I was going to short.
Posted by laker08 on :
hehe new here but i just want to add to the share count that we have here at allstocks. holding 77,500 shares here =). i'm long and strong!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
Heh, $2.50 per share to short....why would anybody want to short a pennystock? Am I missing something here?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
btw... I'm all for getting to the bottom of things!
The only way that happens is when you "test" and verify. That is what we did and now we all know so it was a good thing!!!
I have no bad feelings, none! ha ~
This is what we do here! That is why I don't waste my time on other boards with ego trips...
I want FACTS... Facts point to the TRUTH!!!
Some think mere facts ARE truth... oh well.
Said it before and I'll say it again... "THIS BOARD ROCKS!!!" LOL ~
ok.. LOL I'm done now! Posted by RyanPBF on :
I agree Chart this board does rock. It'll rock even harder when I'm able to retire at 31 Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Heh, $2.50 per share to short....why would anybody want to short a pennystock? Am I missing something here?
So if someone had 5 mill dollars in an account, which I'm sure there are millionaires here on allstocks, they would be able to short 2 million shares of whatever stock they choose. The $5mill would never be touched unless the stock begins to shoot upward and get out of control, otherwise they make bank by letting the money sit there to cover their short positions. It does not cost 2.5 per share if some are thinking that.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Heh, $2.50 per share to short....why would anybody want to short a pennystock? Am I missing something here?
So if someone had 5 mill dollars in an account, which I'm sure there are millionaires here on allstocks, they would be able to short 2 million shares of whatever stock they choose. The $5mill would never be touched unless the stock begins to shoot upward and get out of control, otherwise they make bank by letting the money sit there to cover their short positions. It does not cost 2.5 per share if some are thinking that.
well... yeah it kind of does cost $2.50 a share to do cause if you don't have it, ya can't do it.
-But I hear what youare saying...
Wow.. maybe next time I'll just keep thing to myself! lol ~ JK!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Heh, $2.50 per share to short....why would anybody want to short a pennystock? Am I missing something here?
So if someone had 5 mill dollars in an account, which I'm sure there are millionaires here on allstocks, they would be able to short 2 million shares of whatever stock they choose. The $5mill would never be touched unless the stock begins to shoot upward and get out of control, otherwise they make bank by letting the money sit there to cover their short positions. It does not cost 2.5 per share if some are thinking that.
I called TD Ameritrade and spoke to the margin dept. yesterday, and they told me that it costs $2.50 per share to short. Maybe that's just them then huh?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
How about we talk about SPORTS again!! ha ha ~~
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
no, please don't Chart. I'm just trying to get every angle on this. I'm learning alot of new things as the days go on with much, much more to go.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
I guess I put this more as a statement when in reality it was only questioning. Sorry folks, didn't intend to imply anything.
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: Heh, $2.50 per share to short....why would anybody want to short a pennystock? Am I missing something here?
So if someone had 5 mill dollars in an account, which I'm sure there are millionaires here on allstocks, they would be able to short 2 million shares of whatever stock they choose. The $5mill would never be touched unless the stock begins to shoot upward and get out of control, otherwise they make bank by letting the money sit there to cover their short positions. It does not cost 2.5 per share if some are thinking that.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Money... I learned more then I wanted to! lol ~
But info is power, info is money, that is why I watch all the words I say when it comes to "facts"
People's hard earned money is here and I do not want to cause anyone a loss at MY info. In fact I felt very BLESSED to have gotten that info for everyone. That felt great!
-and I'm not a DD nut, my bag is charts!
So I was double happy Posted by glassman on :
Chart...
i understand you went to alot of trouble to find this stuff..
but?
my gradaddy told me a long time ago? there's more than one way to skin a cat...
now? i don't know why anybody would wanna skinna cat.
but i do KNOW FOR A FACT that shorting pennies is like shooting fish in abarrel...
now? i don't know why anybody would wanna shoot fish they already caught either...
BUT...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yeah.... and!!!! -the excitment builds!! lol ~
Posted by ruthie on :
pretty good glassman..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
.....uhmmm, I hear Pluto is no longer a planet! Posted by milliam on :
Can you believe that crap? Sounds like some space geeks had nothing better to do. Maybe they should look into penny stocks .
Posted by Chartwalker on :
look at us... we're talking aboutthem! ha ~ boring... but it beats a RED day!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
So, a little EOD run.... then back to watching the PPS dropp little by little the following days?????.....
""UNREAL.""
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
Pluto will ALWAYS be a plant. Screw those stupid eggheads, I grew up with 9 Planets and when I have kids I will teach them that there are 9 planets - including Pluto.
What are these 'astronomers' going to say next? That Krypton never blew up? Oh that's right - they told poor Superman that and he spent 5 years stuck in space chasing a pipe dream. Astronomers lost all credibility with me on that one.
Pluto has been, and always will be a PLANET. Regardless of these eggheads say. Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: Pluto will ALWAYS be a plant
I meant Planet Posted by Chartwalker on :
Smelly, good to see ya. Did you pick some up today?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I was able to purchase a 10K share position. Not a ton, but enough when the price resets. I'm actually suprised that we didn't run harder in the am, I think I have ACTC or whatever that stem cell stock was to thank for that gift.
This time I'm just going to hold, anyway I'm still pissed off about the Pluto thing. Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good for you smelly ~ I missed that one... but not caring. I've dug so far into this one that I'm very comfortable with it. Even went so far as to "Google Earth" the address to make sure there was a building there! That's a neat site.
I believe we're sitting good here and sooner or later the pressure will be upward IMO.
Then we can start a committee to overturn the Pluto thing! lol ~
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by Uncle Smelly: I was able to purchase a 10K share position. Not a ton, but enough when the price resets. I'm actually suprised that we didn't run harder in the am, I think I have ACTC or whatever that stem cell stock was to thank for that gift.
This time I'm just going to hold, anyway I'm still pissed off about the Pluto thing.
very good observation about other stocks siphoning off activity...
i've seen that hundreds of times....
Posted by Vin on :
.86 bid and .89 ask. Kinda spreading out a bit.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Yeah Chart I Google Earthed the building also, looks like a big buisness complex there. Also I don't recall any talking much about the run at the end of the day yesterday. My guess is that it was not just a typical EOD run. It seems like just another normal bay and then BOOM! out of no where the pps starts blowing up. If I recall, this seems to happen before all these big news items come out. seems like insiders know what's coming and start buying. Does that seem to track with what ya'll have noticed? Ima
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oooo... up 1.15% on Billion dollar asset increase.
Can't wait to see what happens when the 15 Billion is 8K'd. We might have a "green day"!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Yeah Chart I Google Earthed the building also, looks like a big buisness complex there. Also I don't recall any talking much about the run at the end of the day yesterday. My guess is that it was not just a typical EOD run. It seems like just another normal bay and then BOOM! out of no where the pps starts blowing up. If I recall, this seems to happen before all these big news items come out. seems like insiders know what's coming and start buying. Does that seem to track with what ya'll have noticed? Ima
With CSHD it's hard to say... This stock has had a habit of doing that, that tells me flippers have the radar on it, which is fine (I flip).
But looking for BULLISH ENGULFING Candlesticks at EOD will give you a heads up on big movers. Stock charts dot com has a stockscanner that has a Bullish Engulfing filter, you can see all those candlesticks for the day at the click of a button ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
{*sour*} Posted by Chartwalker on :
wow.. our Billion dollar company is at .90 again.
lmao ~ That isn't gonna last long, couple weeks at the longest Posted by Chartwalker on :
Speaking of which..... Today CSHD is on the Bullish Engulfing list at stockcharts ~
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Thanks chart. Nice website btw. I've looked into doing some more daytrades in the future. I'll have to study this alittle more. Right now I'm reading "The beginners guide to Daytrading Online" and "How To Make Money in Stocks" the first is a recomendation from 10 o' 13. Thanks 10! Btw Chart, I've noticed many talk about charts not being as useful in the volitile pennies. Seems like some good arguments on both sides of the fence. Any thoughts on this. You could PM me if you want or public it don't matter. And thanks for all the input. Ima
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
jeese...I just don't understand how this is not AT LEAST where it was at it's highest point...it just doesn't add up...
i mean are SEC filings not taken seriously any longer?
Posted by ruthie on :
You're right. This one is not making much sense lately...
Posted by glassman on :
Btw Chart, I've noticed many talk about charts not being as useful in the volitile pennies.
charts are very useful in pennies,
but you have to read them differntly tthan a big board stock... try overlaying the charts with PR's...
notice that a company like Sony or Nokia have multiple PR's everyday....
it's just a differnt world...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
in the red...how delightful... Posted by ruthie on :
I can't understand why this can't at the very least end a few points higher than yesterday...We have a little more time left, hopefully it will.
Posted by dog on :
No worries... we are not in control yet... matter of time... smile people!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
-2.30% on Billion dollar asset news. Perfect... just perfect...
Posted by ruthie on :
Usually, Thursday is a pretty good green day for me, but unless something great happens, only two of mine in the green...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
*&#%^&*!!!! Posted by Chartwalker on :
Charts aren't magic, they are a tool. Like any tool the more you use them the better at them you become.
How many times when things got hairy did we all wonder where the support was??? Rat started pointing that out and it didn't take long for some to catch on that there is something to that.
Without charting, stocks are a gamble IMO.
Otherwise candlesticks are pretty good. Play around with them here...
But charts help find trends, look at any WEEKLY chart in the Gallery section of stockcharts . com and see it!
I love them and wouldn't trade stocks without them. I NEVER buy or sell without my intraday charts up and fully loaded. You can pinpoint the best buys and sells IMO.
GLTY!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
american bulls =***
Posted by Chartwalker on :
right at one of those levels now... hope she holds.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
------- | m&m | -------
m&m's
The official snack food of Allstocks!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
is this thing on...check...check...1...1...2...2...
[ August 24, 2006, 15:36: Message edited by: usedtobeaCRab ]
Posted by trade04 on :
EVERYDAY WE ADD MANY LONGS IMO, ESPECIALLY THESE PAST FEW DAYS BECAUSE THE PENDING 10K THE CLOSER WE GET THE HIGHER THE PRICE WILL BE IMO...THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think I figured out the next steps... CSHD is going to help the MM's cover by annoucing a new Billion dollar deal everyday for the next month. Based on todays market reaction that should easily drive the price down to 0.56. f-n cray-z Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
seriously...what do they have to do(other than just release the damn 10K)...come out and say, "um...i gess wur goone giv yaaa'll some deavadeends...tree fitty souns goodda yaaaa'll?" or some other asinine statement...
Posted by trade04 on :
THIS IS HOW THE OTCBB IS...IMHERE FOR THE DEAL..PLENTY OF STOCKS IN THE OTC WITH LOTS OF PORFITS GET MANIPULATED. ME? IM HOLDING
Posted by portman on :
trade04... try no caps please.
Posted by trade04 on :
GREEEEEN COME ON
Posted by glassman on :
must you yell? i already have a migraine from trying to send the MM's a mental image of an extra dollar..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I really can't believe "they" held it down today after that PR... That floors me. Things must be pretty bad (short).
What the heck else can it be? I mean really...
We get news here the second it hits thanks to our dirt diggers!
At least we are breaking to the top side here EOD, that would take the cake to end up in the RED!
Posted by trade04 on :
guys give me a break get over that trend of hating caps, they are fine to me, pplus old people could read better
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: .....uhmmm, I hear Pluto is no longer a planet!
They replaced it with RUFUS ROCK.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
woohoo up .01 on billion dollar news. This is just rediculous.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Wonder what Rufus thinks of this?...
Posted by new2stocks on :
Well, we ended in the green! Posted by dog on :
Simple...MM's in deep...fighting real hard...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well I tried to give them a carot. Put a Good till close limit Sell of 1.61 on 400 shares just to see if one of the MM's would bite. Nope. No takers. They must not be hurting just yet.
It is good though, as I have said I won't sell one share for less than $5 and that is going to be no more than 20% of the lot.
trying to manipulate back with no luck. TB Posted by luvforever on :
He's probably laughing cause he thinks he's got those shorts!!! lol Posted by Chartwalker on :
Long story short... we are holding stock in a company with a current market cap of $84.8 million, and confirmed SEC filed assets of $1.2 Billion, and possibly another 3 Billion un-confirmed and possibly a 500 million dollar war chest unconfirmed.
-someone posted that today. I agree! Was this you Tax?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
OK now I get it... every Billion dollars in assets is equivalent to 1 million dollars in market cap. Brilliant!! Feel like one of those guys off the Guiness commercials. Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Long story short... we are holding stock in a company with a current market cap of $84.8 million, and confirmed SEC filed assets of $1.2 Billion, and possibly another 3 Billion un-confirmed and possibly a 500 million dollar war chest unconfirmed.
-someone posted that today. I agree! Was this you Tax?
Yep... and today was a big no confidence vote IMO.
Posted by trade04 on :
waiting for disemination..lmao...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Maybe Rufas should have used the word Bazillion in the PR. Because I don't think anyone paid any attention.
I am a bit miffed by the 8K release afterhours yesterday, and the PR at 12:03 AM for good news you want impulse MOMO buys made durring the day, and not hours for skeptics to chew on the material.
The paperwork was pretty solid but I did notice iHUB eventually started to find angles to tear the good news apart.
Posted by milliam on :
Looks like a mighty big spike in the volume at EOD. Hmmm, maybe another PR tonight .
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah the last couple of minutes a little over hundred thou went through...
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: OK now I get it... every Billion dollars in assets is equivalent to 1 million dollars in market cap. Brilliant!! Feel like one of those guys off the Guiness commercials.
For every BILLION, we go up a penny !!
When you get as big as MSFT, we'll be at 2.00
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I just sold another stock so I'll be buying more CSHD in the AM. But since it's been the pattern the last few days I am gonna try a day trade if I can get in around .80 and out around .95.
I just need a few quick bucks and don't worry, I'm holding my original quantity until we hit the big one!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: I just sold another stock so I'll be buying more CSHD in the AM. But since it's been the pattern the last few days I am gonna try a day trade if I can get in around .80 and out around .95.
I just need a few quick bucks and don't worry, I'm holding my original quantity until we hit the big one!
I think that's very smart... That way SOMEONE will be making $$ on this ~ LOL
The LONGS day will come Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by milliam: Looks like a mighty big spike in the volume at EOD. Hmmm, maybe another PR tonight .
Of course if we ever want to get to $15 a share we are going to have to do aleast a billion dollar deal a day. LOL Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: I just sold another stock so I'll be buying more CSHD in the AM. But since it's been the pattern the last few days I am gonna try a day trade if I can get in around .80 and out around .95.
I just need a few quick bucks and don't worry, I'm holding my original quantity until we hit the big one!
I think that's very smart... That way SOMEONE will be making $$ on this ~ LOL
The LONGS day will come
Thanks...I think?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: I just sold another stock so I'll be buying more CSHD in the AM. But since it's been the pattern the last few days I am gonna try a day trade if I can get in around .80 and out around .95.
I just need a few quick bucks and don't worry, I'm holding my original quantity until we hit the big one!
I think that's very smart... That way SOMEONE will be making $$ on this ~ LOL
The LONGS day will come
Thanks...I think?
Just a bit {*sour*} in here this afternoon stockstar. Take it with a grain of salt.
Posted by dog on :
We get short list yet?
Posted by dog on :
Sorry short interest data published tomorrow...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Have you resorted to talking to yourself dog?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I guess BB is off somewheres getting her picture took... where are the rest of the usuals?
Posted by dog on :
I guess so... got into ACTC and it tanked... great picks today dog...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: I just sold another stock so I'll be buying more CSHD in the AM. But since it's been the pattern the last few days I am gonna try a day trade if I can get in around .80 and out around .95.
I just need a few quick bucks and don't worry, I'm holding my original quantity until we hit the big one!
I think that's very smart... That way SOMEONE will be making $$ on this ~ LOL
The LONGS day will come
Hey I wasn't slamming you at all ~ I meant it, I'd be flipping too with extra cash. That is why we do this right! lol ~!
GLTA!
Posted by dog on :
No worries... I cashed in some position I got in at .69 and sold at .90. Flip a few others before back to CSHD .... which looks like it will be the same or less.
Posted by plni on :
I will pick up another 2000 shares in the morning.I believe.
Posted by bigstocks on :
I did my flipping when it was .08. Im just gonna sit back and wait for the big $$$$$
Posted by T e x on :
telephone interview re shorting/margin shares/Schwab thing on subpennyradio....right n-o-w..
Posted by glassman on :
Short Interest for August 2006 Short Interest Percent Change Average Daily Share Volume Days to Cover 2,470,845 5,377.98 5,838,124 1.00
Posted by cassity on :
Hey glass can you interpret that? Sorry if I sound stupid, but from the looks of it we're pretty short!
Posted by T e x on :
NOTES:
percent offered is usually 2 to 10 % but could go higher
this stock considerd hard to borrow
look for minimum position 50k
security funding market very dynamic
"how long" as long as people willing to borrow it
"this issue the hottest?"
no...higher ... Overstocks, could pay about 8%
[then lists some others...not familiar]
actually Overstocks, could do about 10
we don't approach, unless we (sense?) demand of about a month or so... (two?)
coupla weeks, we're not really making out...
[mentions other brokers with similar programs]
we've had it here for about three years, at Schwab
just do Schwab...Cybertrader not typically good fit
call in to have it moved back to (active) trading account...done immediately, but not good for {those who) are in n out, in n out
looking for positions 50k or higher... (no margin against)
if too small, no reason to do it...just gonna be an expense...
(urban legend, shorting "targets" of hedgies)
if so, not borrowing from us...
can recall [Golden?] Airlines...
[i'm] never provided with a reason...
Bear Stearns Golman Sachs...don't lend directly to hedgies
whether prime broker borrows for himself or relending, we don't know...
Simon says: 6 additional stocks... OSTK, paying 8% interest
If they're willing to pay you 6%, they're getting what? 12% 20%
then into details of charts...
2nd Fairfax Financial...year ago trading at $180...made a coupla attempts to reverse...
catch the archive: subpennyradio.com direct (or via live365)...
Posted by cassity on :
Days to cover is 1, does that mean they have to cover those shorts in 1 day?
Posted by cassity on :
Never mind, just had to read a little further down on the website!
Posted by dog on :
! day to cover? Which day is that?
Posted by cassity on :
I've checked several companies and so far CSHD has the most shorts I've seen. Almost our average trading volume. HMMMMMMMMM
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x: NOTES:
percent offered is usually 2 to 10 % but could go higher
this stock considerd hard to borrow
look for minimum position 50k
security funding market very dynamic
"how long" as long as people willing to borrow it
"this issue the hottest?"
no...higher ... Overstocks, could pay about 8%
[then lists some others...not familiar]
actually Overstocks, could do about 10
we don't approach, unless we (sense?) demand of about a month or so... (two?)
coupla weeks, we're not really making out...
[mentions other brokers with similar programs]
we've had it here for about three years, at Schwab
just do Schwab...Cybertrader not typically good fit
call in to have it moved back to (active) trading account...done immediately, but not good for {those who) are in n out, in n out
looking for positions 50k or higher... (no margin against)
if too small, no reason to do it...just gonna be an expense...
(urban legend, shorting "targets" of hedgies)
if so, not borrowing from us...
can recall [Golden?] Airlines...
[i'm] never provided with a reason...
Bear Stearns Golman Sachs...don't lend directly to hedgies
whether prime broker borrows for himself or relending, we don't know...
Simon says: 6 additional stocks... OSTK, paying 8% interest
If they're willing to pay you 6%, they're getting what? 12% 20%
then into details of charts...
2nd Fairfax Financial...year ago trading at $180...made a coupla attempts to reverse...
catch the archive: subpennyradio.com direct (or via live365)...
I know you and there is a load of info in these notes...but...Can you translate? I am not following...TY
Posted by T e x on :
no...gonna get the link to audio clip...
really, a good, solid informative conversation
may comment before the clip is available...still digesting what I heard. lol...those were live notes...
Posted by T e x on :
OK...if you can't wait?
the show starts looping *about* midnight, loops 2-3 times before open...
the actual "clip" will be available by 5 pm EST Friday at:
subpennyradio.com/interviews....then under banner, look for "drive-by" in whatever spelling...
Posted by cassity on :
my first opportunity? will record it, and not rely on notes
Also, the other "drive-by" clip? Ameritrade discusses shorting Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: ! day to cover? Which day is that?
"Days to Cover - The number of days of average share volume it would require to buy all of the shares that were sold short during the reporting month. Formula: Short Interest / Average Daily Share Volume, Rounded to Hundredths. 1.00 will be displayed for any values equal or less than 1 (i.e., Average Daily Share is equal to or greater than Short Interest). N/A will be displayed If the days to cover is Zero (i.e., Average Daily Share Volume is Zero)."
[ August 24, 2006, 23:45: Message edited by: P Rowds ]
Posted by Hustla on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: I've checked several companies and so far CSHD has the most shorts I've seen. Almost our average trading volume. HMMMMMMMMM
That doesn't seem right Cassity, I took a look too. OCAI is three times more shorted than CSHD. We have 2.4 mil shorted. OCAI has 6.4 mil shorted. Check this link without the spaces and use the form calculator
h t t p : / / o t c b b . c o m/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp
Posted by glassman on :
no n e e d f o r sp a ces... Posted by cassity on :
I have no doubts about this company anymore, I read some stuff tonight that I should have read and most of you have already read, that has put me completely at ease. I got burned out on this after the first couple of weeks and just let it do it's thing. Tonight I did a little DD, and read things that made me feel real good. GLTA tomorrow. G-NIGHT!
Posted by Hustla on :
Thanks for the heads up glass
Posted by glassman on :
Cassity the way i read the OTCE list? it may or may not account for the naked shorts (or falure to delivers)...
failure to deliver i assume to be be different from the declared shorts...
since the OTCE lit is compiled by the brokers themselves? it is "legal" shorting.. i hope this puts to rest all of the speculation about whether or not a "pennystock" can be shorted...
they can... and are... now? the question in my mind is whether it's brokers, or retailers doing it thru the broker...
if it's the brokers themsaelves? that opens up a whole new can of worms... that MIGHT just 'splain why Scotty puts the call-in restrictions on a few of the hot runners...
Posted by cassity on :
Thanks Glassman!
Posted by glassman on :
The total number of shares in the security that are reflected on the books and records of the reporting firms as short as defined by SEC Rule 200 as of the current month's designated settlement date.
also? remember? this number is a "snapshot" of one day of the month...
for instance? todays published number is actually for 8/15/2006
it can no longer be considered reliable information, it is just a reference...
Posted by thecon00 on :
So we must assume naked shorts are not accounted for correct?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: So we must assume naked shorts are not accounted for correct?
well? we must still assume the system is not perfect, but i am reading the rules this way:
the OTCE short list is compiled by BROKERS who have made short arrangements...
the SHO list is failure to deliver, and? no arrangements were made:
In a "naked" short sale, the seller does not borrow or arrange to borrow the securities in time to make delivery to the buyer within the standard three-day settlement period. 3 As a result, the seller fails to deliver securities to the buyer when delivery is due (known as a "failure to deliver" or "fail").
Failures to deliver may result from either a short or a long sale. There may be legitimate reasons for a failure to deliver. For example, human or mechanical errors or processing delays can result from transferri
being short, and being naked short are two different things...
please have some others verify my DEDUCTIONS...
Posted by T e x on :
shorting?
loaning stocks?
the Schwab guy in the "radio" telephone-interview said their program is paying 6% on CSHD shares, but perhaps as high as 10% on overstock.com shares...
He ("Dave" as I recall) also mentioned 4 other stocks they are lending on...apparently, pennies are not the "norm," but not unheard of, either. As I understood it, there might easily be a "chain," from broker to Big Boy (eg, Bear Stearns, etc) and on to hedgie...
Whatever point "Dave" is in the chain? He's not required to know the purposes of the request, says he.
Apparently? this "leaked" from a Schwab client who has somehow knowledge of the program, apparently not illegal. One *might* get the idea that Schwab would have preferred it not be posted....
lol
happy DD-ing
Posted by glassman on :
One *might* get the idea that Schwab would have preferred it not be posted....
i have an account with a high$ human...
he doesn't even want to talk to me about this stuff...
the brokers themselves may be one of the real demons here..
i still have some more diggin to do... but as you can see? me and tex and a few others have been digging for awhile... even spending (wasting, losing, wahtever) a few of our own bucks ( much blood and sweat too sometimes) to find out what's really going on... and we get a little closer each time we play one of these "unusual plays"... the odd-balls are the ones that give you the hard data to compare to the rest of the market...
Posted by cassity on :
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you short a stock and it goes to let's say $15pps, then the person shorting the stock would be in deep chit and the broker would make a hole chit load of money? IDUNO
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you short a stock and it goes to let's say $15pps, then the person shorting the stock would be in deep chit and the broker would make a hole chit load of money? IDUNO
not the broker...
the broker is more like the "cop"... if they allow someone to get in over their head? and lose too much? then they are on the hook too...
if this went to 15 tomorrow? whoever was short would get a margin call.. put up the difference in cash now? or buy the replacement shares... they borrowed the shares from somebody, that loan has got to be collateralised
Posted by T e x on :
what's a certain price point got to do with our discussion?
eg: If you shorted at $100, and covered at $15? nice trade!
Posted by cassity on :
So what do you think the fax from Schwab was promoting?
Posted by glassman on :
if it's real? scwhab was locating shares on behalf of someone who wants to sell short...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
The fax from Schwab was not a promotion of anything. They just have other prime brokers (compaines like Merril Lynch, etc.) that wanted shares and so Schwab would lend them out to them on the permission of the CSHD shareholder, so they would not get in legal trouble. The fax was a permission request. It was not really public info, when I talked to the agent at schwab He was wondering how I found out about it. Ima
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
It was real. And yes Glass, according to the agents I spoke to it was to loan out shares to those that wanted to short, or hedge, or other things but shorting is probably most likely. According to what I was told by Schwab... I posted about me phone call around that time it all came out. Ima
Posted by glassman on :
my human broker flat out denied the existence of failure to delivers until they finally passed the new regs...
he's not a "stooge" either... he knew, but he denied as a matter of policy... i still give him a hard time about it..
Posted by thecon00 on :
Even better. It proves the theory that the market makers are short if they are coming to other brokers like Schwab for shares. Also this could be RPH's "grace period" allowing them to cover before we run.
Posted by Tmoney on :
what time did they release the pr today?
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by thecon00: Even better. It proves the theory that the market makers are short if they are coming to other brokers like Schwab for shares. Also this could be RPH's "grace period" allowing them to cover before we run.
sorry, but i don't think the MM have to go to brokers...
they have a different system...
the failure to deiliver is at the DTCC level..
they deny everything too... as amatter of policy..
Naked short selling is not necessarily a violation of the federal securities laws or the Commission's rules. Indeed, in certain circumstances, naked short selling contributes to market liquidity. For example, broker-dealers that make a market in a security4 generally stand ready to buy and sell the security on a regular and continuous basis at a publicly quoted price, even when there are no other buyers or sellers. Thus, market makers must sell a security to a buyer even when there are temporary shortages of that security available in the market. This may occur, for example, if there is a sudden surge in buying interest in that security, or if few investors are selling the security at that time. Because it may take a market maker considerable time to purchase or arrange to borrow the security, a market maker engaged in bona fide market making, particularly in a fast-moving market, may need to sell the security short without having arranged to borrow shares. This is especially true for market makers in thinly traded, illiquid stocks such as securities quoted on the OTC Bulletin Board,5 as there may be few shares available to purchase or borrow at a given time.
as you can see? shouting "crook" is not fair...
the MM's are there to trade FOR you.. and yes! they are trading for profit too on occasion... but they can't be DD'ing every darn stock, so? sometimes? bad things happen... that's when things get.... well, *interesting* and us little guys can figure out what's going on by taking careful notes..
Posted by glassman on :
"Close-out" Requirement: Regulation SHO imposes additional delivery requirements on broker-dealers for securities in which there are a relatively substantial number of extended delivery failures at a registered clearing agency7 ("threshold securities"). For instance, with limited exception, Regulation SHO requires brokers and dealers that are participants of a registered clearing agency8 to take action to "close-out" failure-to-deliver positions ("open fails") in threshold securities that have persisted for 13 consecutive settlement days.9 Closing out requires the broker or dealer to purchase securities of like kind and quantity. Until the position is closed out, the broker or dealer and any broker or dealer for which it clears transactions (for example, an introducing broker)10 may not effect further short sales in that threshold security without borrowing or entering into a bona fide agreement to borrow the security (known as the "pre-borrowing" requirement).
thirteen days?
CSHD Listed 12 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 08/08/2006 Through 08/23/2006
it was on for the 24th too...
that's 13....
what's next? idunno.... Posted by T e x on :
yup...
the picture I'm getting is mostly hedgies...
MM's got a "legal" standing to short (not naked short), DTCC subsidiary has a Ford/Nixon-type "in-advance" pardon, and the Schwab guy says big players borrow and then re-lend, themselves... I can see where "broker/dealers" might get in a jam...but rarely. Usually "buy-in" provisions are suspended when that happens...from what I've seen.
Posted by wallymac on :
V. Answers to Frequently-Asked Questions from Investors 1. Is all naked short selling abusive or illegal?
When considering naked short selling, it is important to know which activity is the focus of discussion.
* Selling stock short without having located stock for delivery at settlement. This activity would violate Regulation SHO, except for short sales by market makers engaged in bona fide market making. Market makers do not have to locate stock before selling short, because they need to be able to provide liquidity. However, market makers are not excepted from Regulation SHO's close-out and pre-borrow requirements.
* Selling stock short and failing to deliver shares at the time of settlement. This activity doesn't necessarily violate any rules. There are legitimate reasons why a seller may fail to deliver on the scheduled settlement date.
* Selling stock short and failing to deliver shares at the time of settlement with the purpose of driving down the security's price. This manipulative activity, in general, would violate various securities laws, including Rule 10b-5 under the Exchange Act. Regulation SHO does not address this issue.
2. Is naked short selling the reason my stock has lost value?
Investors should always use caution before investing in high-risk, speculative stocks, especially with regard to their retirement portfolios, because all stocks may decline in value. There are many reasons why a stock may decline in value. The value of a stock is determined by the basic relationship between supply and demand. If many people want a stock (demand is high), then the price will rise. If a few people want a stock (demand is low), then the price will fall. The main factor determining the demand for a stock is the quality of the company itself. If the company is fundamentally strong, that is, if it is generating positive income, its stock is less likely to lose value.
Speculative stocks, such as microcap stocks, often have a high probability of declining in value and a low probability of experiencing above average gains.27 For example, investors should take extra care to thoroughly research any company quoted exclusively in the Pink Sheets.28 With the exception of a few foreign issuers, the companies quoted in the Pink Sheets tend to be closely held, extremely small or thinly traded. Most do not meet the minimum listing requirements for trading on a national securities exchange, such as the New York Stock Exchange or the Nasdaq Stock Market. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC, making it very difficult for investors to find reliable, unbiased information about those companies.
There also may be instances where a company insider or paid promoter provides false and misleading excuses for why a company's stock price has recently decreased. For instance, these individuals may claim that the price decrease is a temporary condition resulting from the activities of naked short sellers. The insiders or promoters may hope to use this misinformation to move the price back up so they can dump their own stock at higher prices. Often, the price decrease is a result of the company's poor financial situation rather than the reasons provided by the insiders or promoters.
Naked short selling, however, can have negative effects on the market. Fraudsters may use naked short selling as a tool to manipulate the market. Market manipulation is illegal.29 The SEC has toughened its rules and is vigilant about taking actions against wrongdoers.30 Fails to deliver that persist for an extended period of time may result in a significantly large unfulfilled delivery obligation at the clearing agency where trades are settled. Regulation SHO is intended to address these effects by reducing the number of potential failures to deliver, and by limiting the time in which a broker can permit a fail to deliver to persist. For instance, as explained above, Regulation SHO requires brokers and dealers to close-out the open fail-to-deliver positions in "threshold securities" (i.e., securities that have experienced a substantial number of extended delivery failures) that have persisted for 13 consecutive settlement days.
Posted by glassman on :
martha stewart omnimedia (MSO) has been failed to deliver since the list was started... 410 trading days $18? not a penny..
overstock dot com? OSTK 18$ yes, not a penny... Listed 338 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 04/22/2005 Through 08/23/2006
MTDL Listed 264 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 08/08/2005 Through 08/23/2006 not a penny? nope..$18.79
FFH? $108...NYSE Listed 236 Consecutive Market Days. On List as of 09/16/2005 Through 08/23/2006
Posted by Tmoney on :
2006-08-24 00:03 ET - News Release
KENNESAW, Ga., Aug. 23 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp , a Delaware Corporation announces that during the 10-K filing process the following current events have taken place.
CSHD would like to announce the additional Deposit from the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation.
The Annex to the Global Funding Agreement brings a 749 Million Euro denominated Bond on the Republic of Finland with a 6% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The Bond holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite AAA rating).
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Republic of Finland 6% AAA
Common Code: 008120510
ISIN: FI0001004558
Copy and paste the following link into a browser to see 8K file: http://sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse- edgar?company=furia&CIK=&filenum=&state=&sic=&owner=include&action=getcompany
About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp
CONTACT: Rufus Paul Harris, of Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp, Harris*cvsu.us, +1-770-420-8270
9. Will close-out purchases required by Regulation SHO drive up a security's price?
Close-out purchases of stock on threshold securities lists will not necessarily drive up prices of such stocks. One of the primary purposes of Regulation SHO is to clean up open fail positions in threshold securities when they reach a relatively low aggregate level, but not to cause short squeezes. The term "short squeeze" refers to the pressure on short sellers to cover their positions as a result of sharp price increases or difficulty in borrowing the security the sellers are short. The rush by short sellers to cover produces additional upward pressure on the price of the stock, which then can cause an even greater squeeze. Although some short squeezes may occur naturally in the market, a scheme to manipulate the price or availability of stock in order to cause a short squeeze is illegal.
To date, there has been little evidence of rapid and unusual upward price movement in threshold stocks.
Darn I fell off my chair about busted my head and then rolled on the floor laughing after reading the highlighted portion.
Posted by T e x on :
I like this, wally..
quote:Is naked short selling the reason my stock has lost value?
followed by three, long-winded paragraphs to *not* answer the question...
quote:Investors should always use caution before investing in high-risk, speculative stocks, especially with regard to their retirement portfolios, because all stocks may decline in value. There are many reasons why a stock may decline in value. The value of a stock is determined by the basic relationship between supply and demand. If many people want a stock (demand is high), then the price will rise. If a few people want a stock (demand is low), then the price will fall. The main factor determining the demand for a stock is the quality of the company itself. If the company is fundamentally strong, that is, if it is generating positive income, its stock is less likely to lose value.
Speculative stocks, such as microcap stocks, often have a high probability of declining in value and a low probability of experiencing above average gains.27 For example, investors should take extra care to thoroughly research any company quoted exclusively in the Pink Sheets.28 With the exception of a few foreign issuers, the companies quoted in the Pink Sheets tend to be closely held, extremely small or thinly traded. Most do not meet the minimum listing requirements for trading on a national securities exchange, such as the New York Stock Exchange or the Nasdaq Stock Market. Many of these companies do not file periodic reports or audited financial statements with the SEC, making it very difficult for investors to find reliable, unbiased information about those companies.
There also may be instances where a company insider or paid promoter provides false and misleading excuses for why a company's stock price has recently decreased. For instance, these individuals may claim that the price decrease is a temporary condition resulting from the activities of naked short sellers. The insiders or promoters may hope to use this misinformation to move the price back up so they can dump their own stock at higher prices. Often, the price decrease is a result of the company's poor financial situation rather than the reasons provided by the insiders or promoters.
They can't answer the question better than that?
lol, I'm *not* blaming nekkid shorts for all market ills...but dadgum--can they just answer the question?
Posted by Tmoney on :
I'm sorry is this old news. Just didn't feel like reading through twenty pages
Posted by wallymac on :
Yeah Tex, Glad I still had my boots on when I read that because it was getting pretty deep in here.
Wally
Posted by Tmoney on :
sorry for the post just found it about 10 pages back
Posted by dog on :
What's up..... been gone all night, what did I miss? Are we still good?
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by Tmoney: sorry for the post just found it about 10 pages back
Don't be sorry. Sometimes when discussing dynamics of the stock it leads to the discussion of those dynamics. When a discussion gets as good as what we had going here it's easy to lose focus on the stock itself.
I hope that we can continue to delve into the whole Short/Naked short issue. It might be better if we gave it it's own thread.
GLTA Wally
Posted by dog on :
Anyone think we are gonna sit right here for a few more trading days?
Posted by cassity on :
O.K, I'm sure all of you have already been to this site, http://www.georgiaaerospace.com/ but this sealed the deal for me this evening. Georgia aerospace is UNDOUBTEDLY real and basically ran by the government. They have CVSU press releases all over their site. So, if someone can explain (no one will be able to) how the hell Rufus could pull one over on this company, please I'm all ears. I work in the same industry as Georgia Aerospace (AISS) is in. I'm sorry folks, this thing is going to happen, we may not know exactly how, but Georgia Aerospace would not let some scam artist trick them. Read the line up of the individuals running the show there (HOLY SHEET). I invite anyone with a VERY intelligent argument to point out what I'm missing. JMHO
Posted by cassity on :
Oh BTW, where is CVSU/CSHD located.....that's right(GA). Goodnight
Posted by Schwabie on :
Yay, yet another day in LIMBO ! Let's see shall we go lower or higher today... let's get an interview from the MM's since they are the ones controlling the stock in its entirety and making most of the money ! Flip it boys... only way to make $ till it goes... if it ever does...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Goodmorning everyone and good luck today.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good Morning Board ~
Posted by dog on :
Godd morning. We still goodby the looks of it... more time til 10k eh?
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Good Morning All! What will today bring? We had no midnight post so it may be a down day but we will see.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good Morning! Best to all today!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Wonder when Rufus will PR the new "justifiable" stock price?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Wonder when Rufus will PR the new "justifiable" stock price?
I would think that would be the next PR...
Posted by bigstocks on :
Good morning.
Posted by dog on :
i'm trying to figure out when to increase my position here... looks like more time til 10k eh? This may be a down day... keep patient.
Posted by dog on :
So am I getting this correct...people are still actively looking to short this stock... not recover from previous short positions?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: So am I getting this correct...people are still actively looking to short this stock... not recover from previous short positions?
Sounds that way, eh?
Posted by milliam on :
That's what I'm getting dog. Sounds like the Schwab deal was to get more shares for people to legally short this thing. I wondered about that when it was released. Most everyone thought it was a good thing, but looks like its probably not.
On the MM's naked shorting issue...from what I'm reading here and have heard in the past, the MM's have to make a market for the stock. From glassman's DD, it looks like they can naked short the stock to make this market. I wonder if they are doing this/having to do this because Rufus and his people have bought up most of the float.
Posted by TheUnknown on :
What is the possibilites that Rufus may declare a reverse split along with the 10-K?
Posted by lostone on :
I wonder if Schwab is helping ppl to short this in order to help the MM's cover this? transfer the losses to others... i don't even know if that's possible..
Posted by bigstocks on :
IMHO, I think almost anything is possible with them. Its only a matter of getting caught.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by TheUnknown: What is the possibilites that Rufus may declare a reverse split along with the 10-K?
NONE!
Posted by dog on :
They sure are confident....
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Are we still good???
Well I think the Billion dollars in bond assets they secured on the 22nd is still a Billion dollars...
Yeah... we good. LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
My bash-dar has a bleep on it.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: My bash-dar has a bleep on it.
I picked it up and took care of it! LMAO Posted by maumee river rat on :
Mornin gang!!!!
Whats happenin'???
Anything really important??
I really don't want to try and read 5 days worth of B.S. to catch up... I will if I gotta...
Posted by TheUnknown on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: My bash-dar has a bleep on it.
If you are referring to my question, I now have 25k shares and holding. It's a legitimate question to ask if a reverse split is possible. Pos and neg questions should be welcome here. It’s a discussion board.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
So the fact that short interest in CSHD was up 5000% doesn't tell you that Schawb customers and others are placing bets against this merger?
What I do like is that I am finally on the unpopular side. Usually I am standing there with a bunch of long with a few smart shorts ruining my day. Today I stand here with a few smart Longs looking over at a whole bunch of soon to be "deep fried" shorts.
It is bad karma for the shorts to have so much company on this stock. I think some people despite all the warnings are going to get burnt big time. JMHO
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey Maumee...No not much new...just waiting!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Nice to have you back rat ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TheUnknown:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: My bash-dar has a bleep on it.
If you are referring to my question, I now have 25k shares and holding. It's a legitimate question to ask if a reverse split is possible. Pos and neg questions should be welcome here. It’s a discussion board.
We welcome all negative comments if the author would take a bit of time first and go do their own DD. We have exhausted the fact that there won't be a reverse split and the fact that there can't be a reverse split.
Nice Moniker... Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by TheUnknown:
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: My bash-dar has a bleep on it.
If you are referring to my question, I now have 25k shares and holding. It's a legitimate question to ask if a reverse split is possible. Pos and neg questions should be welcome here. It’s a discussion board.
Sorry man, the R/S thing was beaten to death about a month ago. Not even a possibility according to 8k. GLTY Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Missed your input rat welcome back~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by TheUnknown: What is the possibilites that Rufus may declare a reverse split along with the 10-K?
Yeah questions are welcome according to the filings...no r/s...Rufas also stated no R/s
Can it still happen? Yep...but hopefully not...
Posted by TheUnknown on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by TheUnknown: What is the possibilites that Rufus may declare a reverse split along with the 10-K?
Yeah questions are welcome according to the filings...no r/s...Rufas also stated no R/s
Can it still happen? Yep...but hopefully not...
Thank you.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Woaaahh - spread is stretching again. 0.82 x 0.86
Posted by TheUnknown on :
For answering my question...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Woaaahh - spread is stretching again. 0.82 x 0.86
doesnt that happen when a stock has a tiny float? hmmm
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well it is streaching on 67K volume so what does that tell us?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Nice to have you back rat ~
Thanks chart!!! I will be checking in a little more often.. Still got a bit of chit to get squared away before I can put a full day into this...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Cool rat... Board isn't the same without ya! Posted by cassity on :
NITE still controlling this, unbelievable what they get away with. OH well! All in good time!!!
Posted by new2stocks on :
I don't know if anyone read this or not....
**********: FORD, PXPL, CSHD Have Been On ********** Naked Short List For 13 Consecutive Trading Days
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: I don't know if anyone read this or not....
**********: FORD, PXPL, CSHD Have Been On ********** Naked Short List For 13 Consecutive Trading Days
Who has a buyins.com login who can tell us what they are reporting as the squeeze trigger price.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Buyinz dot net is the same company I had talked about. But there still seems to be people who think that millionaires would waste their time actual short selling CSHD. yawn...
It's the BIG boys, and they'll take care of themselves don't worry, that's what Schwabs letter was all about IMO. That's done all the time.
But selling shares they don't have (naked short selling) is what is taking the wind out of our PPS, not anything else -mo
Posted by 10of13 on :
If it matters...I have had a buy in since before the bell...82...still not filled and not even a partial...FWIW
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Is this ever going to happen lol
Posted by new2stocks on :
There is a deadline... Sept 30th to file the 10k. right? I believe this to be true.
So we just have to ride this till then IMO
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
COMPANY NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES FROM OTHER SOURCES:
WallStreetGrapevine.com: "Stocks on the Rise- CSHD, ACTC, CKYS"
Aug 25, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- Wall Street, NYC-Today, wallstreetgrapevine.com, named; Conversion Solutions Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: CSHD), Advanced Cell Technology (OTC BB: ACTC), and CyberKey Solutions Inc. (Pink Sheets: CKYS); their "Stocks on the Rise." Conversion Solutions Holdings Inc. (OTC BB: CSHD, http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/quotes.asp?symb=cshd&siteid=mktw )
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp Updates Shareholders and Files 8K on Current Events
Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp , a Delaware Corporation announces that during the 10-K filing process the following current events have taken place.
CSHD would like to announce the additional Deposit from the Humanitarian & Scientific World Foundation, LTD a Georgia LTD Foundation.
The Annex to the Global Funding Agreement brings a 749 Million Euro denominated Bond on the Republic of Finland with a 6% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The Bond holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite AAA rating).
The bond is loaded in the systems with the following codes:
Republic of Finland 6% AAA
Common Code: 008120510
ISIN: FI0001004558
Copy and paste the following link into a browser to see 8K file: http://sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?company=furia&CIK=&filenum=&state=&s ic=&owner=include&action=getcompany About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us.
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Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: There is a deadline... Sept 30th to file the 10k. right? I believe this to be true.
So we just have to ride this till then IMO
Read that link I posted about naked short selling....
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
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Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: If it matters...I have had a buy in since before the bell...82...still not filled and not even a partial...FWIW
Let us know if you get filled, especially now that the bid and ask are below your price....I'm curious how long it will take.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Now all we need is an article from STOCK LEMON! LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: If it matters...I have had a buy in since before the bell...82...still not filled and not even a partial...FWIW
The MM's aren't interested in people who want to buy this stock... Didn't you know that? They just want people willing to sell their shares.
They should just take the bid price off the L2's all together.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
MM's trying to balance books I think... Good luck with that! lol ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: If it matters...I have had a buy in since before the bell...82...still not filled and not even a partial...FWIW
Let us know if you get filled, especially now that the bid and ask are below your price....I'm curious how long it will take.
Still notta....
Posted by 10of13 on :
hmmm...cancelled my order...put in for less shares and at .815...got it...very odd!
Posted by SherriT on :
That is very odd, 10....
Posted by cassity on :
10 I sold a little at the ask yesterday to test it and it went through faster than any order I've ever had. 10 did you read my post last night? Have you been to that website before? I wish I would have read that soon, NO WORRIES!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think glassman last night said we should "NOT" call the MM's "crooks" because they are there to trade "For" us. I generally agree with most of what glassman says. But watching the activity, I can say they have no one's interest in mind but their own. As 10of13 just said she has an open buy order of 0.82 in play since before the bell. this thing opened at 0.88. Why not fill it then. when the bid hit 0.82, why not fill it then? they took it down to 0.79 with out filling.
You know why, they have no shares and they are not willing to realize the fact. The shares are much more valuable than they have them priced. They want shares? raise the bid. There are plenty of flippers just waiting for the oportunity. they want my share raise the bid 10 fold because that is a more reasonable price for them.
This company secured a major bond this week, they are in the middle of a huge reverse merger. The MM's are stuck and have a very loose deadline to cover. Don't let them get away with this if you hold they will evetually be forced by deadlines to "wake up to the reality". We are in control not them.
Sorry glassman the MM's involved in this stock are in my opinion "Crooks!" with a capital "C".
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yeap, and they will wake up too!
(a cut and paste) The markets check to see if the amount of fails to deliver is more than 1/2 of 1% of the total outstanding shares in that security. If it is, then it goes on a “Threshold List.” If it is then on the Threshold List for 13 consecutive settlement days, restrictions on short selling then apply. The “close-out” requirement forces a participant of a registered clearing agency to close out any “fail to deliver” position in a threshold security that has remained for 13 consecutive settlement days by purchasing securities of like kind and quantity. If the participant does not take action to close out the open fail to deliver position, the participant is prohibited from making further short sales in that security without first borrowing or arranging to borrow the security.
"""Even market makers are not exempt from this requirement."""
*dtcc: So Reg SHO doesn’t force them to close out the position, but if they don’t, they are prohibited from making any additional short sales without borrowing the shares first?
Thompson: That’s right.
Posted by dog on :
What day does it look like "13 days" are up?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Sorry to use you as the example 10of13... there have been several clues over the past few days as to the mind set of the MM's. Ask above bids... 5K sales dropping price .05 why 500K buys hold the same price for the next tick... orders getting ignored... short interest raising 5000%.
This manipulation is bogus and I am DDing my options as to reporting it.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: What day does it look like "13 days" are up?
--and 10of13 had trouble filling her order....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Have we ever had this low of volume?...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Try not to "read" into my not filling too much... this order was placed with etrade...i have found etrade to be much "slower" at getting my orders filled than when i try it with choicetrade...
I have heard it said that some brokers have a better "relationship" with certain MM's than others...and just like in any "work place"...some people will do things "quicker" for one person than another...
also...it could be that I placed a smaller order that was easier to fill...I don't know...just throwing thoughts out there...
Posted by milliam on :
Anyone have any guess at what pps these shorters are in at? I know it would only be a guess. I just wonder if they are still here from shorting it around .15. If so, I can see why they won't let this thing go. I also imagine they've been trying to average down their short position by shorting again in the $1+ range.
From 10's delay with her order filling, it would seem they aren't shorting it much at these levels. I would assume this shows that they are trying to cover at these levels.
Do I make any sense at all?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is the loop hole in that SHO statement that I don't like. "the participant is prohibited from making further short sales in that security" They don't have to close it and they can go on to short other stocks. Sure, if you wait around long enough most stocks are going to have a rough day and you will be able to cover.
The only pressure applied is when the share price rises well beyond the short position. Then the MM is likely to not even try and attempt to cover, and know their days are numbered till the SEC comes looking for the money. I think that is 30 to 60 days after the 13 SHO threshold list.
If they reset the price and this thing holds $7 or greater come Nov-Dec we should finally see a forced squeeze, rather than a self imposed squeeze from the short MM. Like I said I have had experience with the threshold list before, like shorty is following me around. The deadlines are real loose but they are hard deadlines. If we can wait them out and the pps hold or climbs it will be a major payday for all.
GLTA
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
wow...this volume is slower than when we were waiting for the certs...
Posted by jm430 on :
Tax, from your quote of the SHO statement: "the participant is prohibited from making further short sales in that security"...
Does that explain the low low volume today? If 'they' are not allowed to short anymore, the only way they can cover is to let people naturally sell their shares to them, or buy them at the ask (not induce a shakeout by shorting like crazy--we've all seen them put the ask lower than bid by now, right?). There does seem to be a lot less posting on ihub today... hmmm...
I'm speculating, but it seems to fit for the time being. Has anybody else noticed the large amount of trades yesterday and some today with a size of 2500? Any thoughts on that?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You know I have never noticed the end of the 13 days actually having a noticable effect before but then again this is a "special" situation where flippers are not as active, and a majority of the longs are holding on for the big "reset".
Your theory does make since that since this is day 13 and all other activity has been stiffled a few weeks back. That the idle shorting back and forth being stopped would put an big stop on all activity.
Interesting... I do think you are on to something.
If that is the case tho... this would be an awesome time for a "killer" PR! If they can't short all they can do is refuse to accept buys, to keep the price down. I don't know sounds a bit too easy of a squeeze.
Hey Rufas put out something little. Let's see how the market reacts...
Posted by lostone on :
love that small volume.. ppl holding =)
Posted by cool AZ on :
I saw this on ihub, posted by TallRobO .... makes for interesting reading on the subject. Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Very strange, trying to buy at .82. No luck for over an hour... ?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
jm430 - On second thought, I think this volume is just the "case of the Fridays" now that I think about it. Sometimes days are just not heavy trading days. With flippers, day traders and longs all waiting to see what happens. The MM's still seem to be walking this thing around just not as actively as they have been.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
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Posted by Chartwalker on :
Been trying to buy small order for an hour now...damn
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Stockstar - doesn't anyone read this dribble? There should be some buying pressure from all the "Stock Alerts". dribble... oh I gues I just answered my own question. Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
man-o-man...
since i've turned my L2 on less than 30k shares have been traded...would everyone agree something somewhere just isn't right?
i've been following along...reading every post...folks seem to have a better understanding of what exactly is going on...
me?
the mm's may or may not be evil... the mm's may or may not be shorting... the mm's may or may not be naked shorting... the mm's brokers may or may not be doing all the same things... the mm's broker's may or may not be using hedge funds to do all of this...
if i had access to a company like Baer Stearns would there be anything that i could ask them to clear something up?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Been trying to buy small order for an hour now...damn
So you are the 3rd person, that we know of, trying to buy...and no luck...again I say...HMMMMM!?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Dog... try sell an equal sized order. If you dare. Muah ha ha... (Where did that come from? did I take that from you Chart?)
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
uh oh...someone just got one through at .82
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Nice wrap-up crab. LOL
Posted by jm430 on :
TaxBack, you might be right but this volume seems abnormally low for CSHD even on a Friday (anybody have last Friday's count?). Maybe the shorters are getting closer to being finished covering? We have been averaging close to 1/10 the O/S every day. If half of that was covering, that's a lot of shares that could've been covered in 2 weeks.
Anyway, I suppose I'm just speculating since I've got no proof of any of this. Just passing time as we all wait, I guess. Good luck all!
Posted by a surfer on :
last fri. was a huge volume day.. from mid .70 to 1.12 remember.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Muah ha ha... (Where did that come from? did I take that from you Chart?)
Catch-y isn't it? Posted by Chartwalker on :
Naked Short Sellers Hurt Companies With Stock They Don't Have
By Bob Drummond
Aug. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Movie Gallery Inc. shares fell 20 percent on Feb. 3, their biggest nosedive in almost a decade. At the time, there didn't seem to be a reason for the jaw-dropping rout.
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Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Stockstar - doesn't anyone read this dribble? There should be some buying pressure from all the "Stock Alerts". dribble... oh I gues I just answered my own question.
Read it...I have a hard time even finding it. I know they are fairly secluded little gossip type papers but still....
Hey...I finally got filled at .82 after almost 2 hours. Now it will probably drop to .75.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
We are on the Naked short list... We have been on it for 13 days... Can't naked no more.
We are having trouble filling orders... That article talks about PRICE and it dropped for NO REASON.
Who can't connect the dots here?...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: uh oh...someone just got one through at .82
that be me!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Just checking in guys. I see we're still watching paint dry. Well I'm holding.
Posted by ruthie on :
I'm still holding too. Not quite sure why but still holding...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think a big Friday PR would be perfect right about now. If they really can't naked short then they really only have one option and that is the refuse the buy orders. Could you imagine a couple thousand lined up for a couple million shares they can't fill unless a long, flipper sells? I dream of days when the market works the way it should. Supply vs. Demand
TB
Posted by ruthie on :
Just a question, How does one lose a star??
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I could even write the PR. It just has to be a recap of the weeks events... and title it CSHD secures a BAZILLION dollars and sell stock at one 10th going rate!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They forget where they put it.
Posted by ruthie on :
Help police ! Somebody stole my star!!
Posted by ruthie on :
Yeah! a little bit of hope now??
Posted by ruthie on :
Yeah! My star has been returned!
Posted by cool AZ on :
I sure would like to know what Rufus is thinking about all this stuff re: shorts, ftd's, and our best course of action if there is any to thwart the pps being manipulated by the mm's and their "share" factory.
Having looked at this closely, it seems their games work best on the weaker stocks where they can always say it was the companies fault for the pps fall ... the company did something wrong.
I suspect their getting a little sour taste in their mouths as CSHD becomes stronger and stronger ... I'm getting a feeling of a huge pay day coming!
As we were talking yesterday, does anyone believe getting certs is the thing to do? I just talked to Scottrade ... once you get the certs and then want to sell the position, you have to deposit them into your account, and then you can sell them. This usually takes "a day or two" they say.
Off to San Diego, will check in on the way.
Posted by ruthie on :
How are the L 2's looking on this one?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...painted on the screen...
VERT at .81 - WMIN at .82
Posted by ruthie on :
Thanks.
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I'm curious to see what happens when the MM's get back from their martini lunches !
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Well I am going to lunch but I thought I would try and play with them again.
Put another little sell order out there that is good for the day. At exactly double the current price. $1.62 Ha! Come on you little MM... You want the shares you are gonna have to earn them.
Now hmmm what is for lunch?
[[ Sell 400/AON CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HOLD (CSHD) Limit $1.62 Day ]]
They won't take the bait but I bet it looks a little tempting.
Sometimes I enjoy fishing even when I know I am not going to catch a fish. Posted by glassman on :
Sorry glassman the MM's involved in this stock are in my opinion "Crooks!" with a capital "C"
the sum total of my posts should be interpreted this way:
there are no humanitarins on Wall St.
everybody is posting what they post for a reason...
i have stated mine... take my posts at face value.
i am TRYING to figure out exactly how this system works.. if you do "read up" at the DTCC site? they plainly say that most people do not understand this system... and? they don't try to "fix that.
IMO? something "bad" happened here... i also posted that..
it wasn't as bad as Chenrobyl... but? on a personal level? for whoever made the mistakes that i think i see? it is worse...
how this gets fixed is the next chapter of the story..
i want to remind everybody waiting that i am waiting WITH you...
and?
the legal or retail short-sellers are burning cash every single day they wait too... they pay interest on the loan, and? they have to put up colateral that is not working somewhere else...
there is no reason to be discouraged unless you are planning on paying this months bills with your "winnings" on this trade...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I liked CSHD before, now after adding about 1 BILLION more U.S. dollars (750,000,000 EUROS) I'm not about to sell~
Laughing to bank......
This is simply a waiting game.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think I like it because I know I am teasing them... cruelty in an odd way is just plain fun. Posted by 10of13 on :
My translation of glass's post
~something's screwie... ~Patience ~Wait and see ~don't be late with your bills
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
thats what i got out of it...
I think I am also picking up that he has a hunch something else happened...something that he is not so sure about and wants to investigate more before he lets us know...
or maybe the aluminum foil round my head is tighter than it should be...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: thats what i got out of it...
I think I am also picking up that he has a hunch something else happened...something that he is not so sure about and wants to investigate more before he lets us know...
or maybe the aluminum foil round my head is tighter than it should be...
I'm sure he does think that "something else"happened...(something screwie)
The foil?!...hmmm..just not going to go there... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: the sum total of my posts should be interpreted this way:
Nice wrap-up Glass... I agree with you and no harm intended. I think the only difference in our opinion at this point is that you see the situation as someone's "personal" miscalculation or mistake, and I view it as a more intentional act of general greed that went wrong.
We are all waiting and anyone betting the farm on this to the point they can't pay bills needs to get out now. IMO. I think we will all enjoy our "winnings" when they show, and I do think they will show.
I just think as a collective you and I are still in the same general opinion, just I am volitile when "mistakes" unintentional or not are concerned. Plus I doubt the investors in CSHD as a whole would not be classified as the most patient group of humans, even though it is the probably the largest piece of arsenal in the Great investors quiver.
Once again no harm meant... happy trading, and GLTA.
I am starving, TB
Posted by Chartwalker on :
CONVERSION SOL HLDGS (CSHD) OTC Type: OTCBB
Short Interest for August 2006
Short Short Interest 2,470,845
Percent Change 5,377.98 % (!!!)
Average Daily Share Volume 5,838,124
""Days to Cover"" 1.00
Starting to wonder just what the heck this "really" means... We're at 350,000+ for volume today... Short iterest is 2.8 million (at LEAST) "?????????????????????????????????????"
Posted by 10of13 on :
Anyone know if these "short" are from when it was "FHAL" trading or from CSHD? As far as the timing seems it is from when it was CSHD...it doesn't matter...just curious
Posted by trade04 on :
woah volume Lowwww
Posted by cassity on :
My interpretation of Glass's post is, some one is going to have a sore a$$, and it won't be the longs in CSHD. HAHA Posted by portman on :
Good afternoon gang....I was just catching up after almost spending my future CSHD profits on outfitting the kids the soccer gear and The Wife in her new running duds. I love when she let's me pick her clothing!
All very interesting ideas going on.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Sure... They can't naked short anymore because of that 13 day rule and they "fed" everyone naked shorts all this time soaking up the the buying pressure...
This is why I was wondering about Rufus and a PR. He has a PR... He can update everyone on the new "justifiable" PPS!
If they can't sell naked shorts finally, the price NOW WILL GO UP. Notice it isn't going down ~
Things are getting dry I think... Which should start to work in our favor IMO.
Posted by glassman on :
IMO? chartwalker gets the post of the day award...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
RyanPBF gets mine. "Still watching paint dry"
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: IMO? chartwalker gets the post of the day award...
yay for Chart!
Posted by glassman on :
it gets better too..
the retail shorts can't like seeing the volume dry up either...
that means it will be harder to cover... not easier...
i think the short interst was either created by certain unmentionable web sites? or they work with the shorters..
don't worry too much about the MM's... they will take care of themselves...they always do...
more buyers or more sellers is how the price will move now... the MM's can read a calendar just as well you or me... they knew when the 13 days was up a week before it was..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"sour/sweet" But I'll take it...
Thanks glassman ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
if i'm understanding this correctly then after what chartwalker said...
doesn't naked short selling have the same basic effect as when a company dilutes the shares? i never really thought about it that way but isn't that right?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Thanks for the vote chart. At least we aren't losing money here. I told you guys that I sold a small portion here to get in on actc. Well it screwed me oh well if I sold yesterday morning I would've been up a bit and then the bottom fell out and I got screwed. Now I'm hoping it has another little run. I hate being in this position
Posted by Chartwalker on :
well, the MM's should have raised the price to lure sellers for their buyers, naked shorting allowed then to fill those orders without taking the price up.
We were all wondering why the price was flat, that Naked short report that I think New2stocks posted tells this story.
Posted by trade04 on :
this stock right hea goin' up ya see
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
whats all this then...
(in my best english accent)
.04 after 30k shares...is there any float available, lol?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
bout time! Guess who wants some shares... ha ha ~
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
I just put a sell in...500 shares at $3.00. Like it will fill but let's all do it so the MM's see we are willing to part (with a small portion) with some shares.
Maybe they will start raising the ask?
Posted by ruthie on :
I did the same, or rather close to the $3.00
Posted by Chartwalker on :
If I could I'd put mine at $30.00
-That's actually a fair price after that last deal Posted by ruthie on :
True!!
Posted by trade04 on :
so whats everyone doing tonight? I'm thinking of seeing that little miss sunshine movie.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Superior Grill and top shelf margaritas...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Trade friends of mine saw it and said it was great.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
EOD anyone?...
If they can't naked short anymore I'd say we should be in the green at EOD.
.90 - .93
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Chart you see the way actc is collapsing
Posted by Chartwalker on :
long way to close. What do you think will happen EOD?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Watching this drives me crazy...soooo All the shares that I have in my etrade accounts are now in a GTC order of $24.50...it took and I will leave it there...and not even think about it...(BTW...that's a boat load of $) The other shares that are in my "play" around accounts are still "there" to flip and play...if this should ever move...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I got out I was looking for it to drop in the low .90's and start to get some money back. I don't know do you see a bottom on this.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
=interesting=
Hedge funds are private investment funds, primarily organised as limited partnerships - in essence, betting syndicates for the very rich. The amount of money they handle, in so far as anyone can estimate this, is mind-bogglingly large. The IMF's best estimate is $1trn; industry professionals reckon $1.5trn. If hedge funds were a country, it would be the eighth-largest in the world. To invest in one of these funds, you have to put in a minimum of $1m, although that initial investment is chicken feed compared with what can be earned - if that is the right verb for what amounts to global-scale gambling. The US Institutional Investor Magazine reckons that the top 25 hedge-fund managers in 2005 earned on average $251m each in 2004 - compared with $10m for the CEO of a typical top 500 US corporation.
Hedge funds are not new - just notorious. They started to take off properly in the late 1970s when floating exchange rates and volatile interest-rate movements transformed the capital markets, and gathered momentum as technology and electronic trading became increasingly quick and sophisticated. The funds were - and are - run typically by a tight group of traders, backed usually by fewer than a hundred individuals prepared to commit a great deal of money into their hands. Today, it is estimated that there are 9,000 funds and what started as a US phenomenon is spreading - though the FSA estimates that there are at present only 325 hedge funds based in the UK.
The key features of these funds are that they trade in eye-watering risk and they are barely regulated. The two are related. Because they answer to nobody but themselves, hedge funds have side-stepped regulation and can do as they like. What they like is risk - and their main tool is "leverage" - borrowing to play the markets. It is not unusual for a hedge-fund investor to control $100m in securities with only a $5m down payment. Of course, that means that when a bet goes wrong, it goes spectacularly wrong. If the hedge-fund industry's positions in the market are 20 times the cash they actually hold, their potential impact on the world financial system is about equal to US GDP.
That is why the emerging-market stock markets have taken such a battering over the past two months. Hedge funds poured money into emerging markets in the search for high returns, able to borrow billions relatively cheaply while interest rates were low. But as soon as the cost of borrowing increased they had to bail out rapidly, leaving the developing economies to clean up the mess.
Posted by portman on :
I am just leaving my shares right were they are. They are so cute when they are sleeping....aaaawwwwwwww.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Chart I don't know how you get post of the day for saying what I have been saying all day but congrats! (I guess you just say it better. )
Back from lunch and it looks like everyone is in aggreeance that the SHO Threshold 13 day rule has been reached and Rufas should PR this thing.
Also as you all can tell my $1.62 teaser trade has not filled. If it gets close I'll bump it to $3 with the rest of you.
EOD I want $5 with an awesome PR... but I think that is just the "Friday afternoon" syndrome speaking. Thinking we close at 0.95 unless someone "arranges" some buying pressure for us.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I haven't "worked" the charts today, at a glance, ya, I'll stick with my .90 - .93 but I'm not seeing anything great, just on the Naked short option being dried up news.
--And Rufus said his company short term should be $30-$60... Well we are now "justifiable" in the middle of that so I have a feeling one more deal is out there... "JMO"
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Hmmm, interesting post led me to story about a stock PGWC and 8/22 PR on how they screwed the shorts. The brokers where soliciting for shares (sound familiar) but the company stepped in and said the warrants that were issued where only good for the original shareholder.
Connection between PGWC and CSHD is supposedly Lawrence Scharfman???
I haven't been able to verify that yet.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I guess everyone on HSM is raising thier minimum to over $30.00 in hopes to quicken the short squeeze..
Posted by glassman on :
OK TB04.... you can share the award Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Hmmm, interesting post led me to story about a stock PGWC and 8/22 PR on how they screwed the shorts. The brokers where soliciting for shares (sound familiar) but the company stepped in and said the warrants that were issued where only good for the original shareholder.
Connection between PGWC and CSHD is supposedly Lawrence Scharfman???
I haven't been able to verify that yet.
That's excellent! Give us all you have and let's run with it, see where it goes!
I'm trying to figure this d*mn thing out, I KNOW Rufus is up to something good!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
a couple are feeling ambitious...
some bigger buys went through...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: OK TB04.... you can share the award
funny... but feeling a bit guilty now. Guess I get the full award for "Biggest Whiner post of the Day". LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Thank God this board has a sense of humor Posted by 10of13 on :
Stockstar..can you post some links? Many "eyes" are better than 2...we can all look...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Looks like I havent missed to much...
Charts are ugly...
I will go with a low 90's close for the day.....mid 60's can happen without F-ing up the charts too bad...
Just a thought.....I am a little out of synch with things at the moment, so take it for what its worth...
Posted by glassman on :
sorry about it being a silver star, i'm fresh outa gold ones today... Posted by luvforever on :
Ok good afternoon.... I've been thinking...aren't we just small peanuts? I mean no matter what we do buy sell etc...isn't gonna be much of a move one way or the other? Someone big must be putting it all in then taking it out to make it look like its about to run not these lil 500 trades right? get my drift? So what is the real purpose if we just wait for the darned 10k then we should worry right? Till then we shouldn't care what the pps are? Mo Posted by new2stocks on :
omg, the guy that lives upstairs from my office is playing the same guitar riff over and over and over....AAHHHH!!!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: omg, the guy that lives upstairs from my office is playing the same guitar riff over and over and over....AAHHHH!!!!!
LMAO!!... ~~~~~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I hear ya luv, Price for me right now is just something to pass the time. The price not taking off now can logically and somewhat factually be blamed on Naked shorting to some degree thanks to New2stocks post on that report, -they are maxed out! So much they can't do that anymore. ha ~
So people want this, and I feel that there isn't some "wolf" in the background so even though I don't care "too much" about the price I still like cheering it on!
If all of this pans out this way then next week we should start to see the share price correct itself. Maybe even yet today, -they sure couldn't drop it could they?
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Looks like I havent missed to much...
Charts are ugly...
I will go with a low 90's close for the day.....mid 60's can happen without F-ing up the charts too bad...
Just a thought.....I am a little out of synch with things at the moment, so take it for what its worth...
i take it as worthless then...
Posted by luvforever on :
correct itself ~lol~ when it is reset it will be corrected ~ lol ~ you're too funny! ..... Bet all the girls liked you in high school ya know with you cheering and all ~lol~ j/k wink wink Posted by Chartwalker on :
I had a good laugh about what rat said, "charts are ugly" lol ~
You nailed it rat, it IS a d*mn ugly thing isn't it! LOL ~
Posted by maumee river rat on :
LOL.....
Youd CHIT if it happened!!!!
hehehe
Posted by luvforever on :
~LOL~ show us a pic then we will vote ~lol~ Posted by Chartwalker on :
"if".... Posted by luvforever on :
Wait wasn't that rat who used the blue shampoo... or was that BB~ lol~ so it can't be that ugly ~lol~ Posted by maumee river rat on :
If your talken to me luv....I won't be picken anything for a bit....It's gunna take me a week to figure out how to save my ass from what I'm aready in.....LOL
Walk away for a few days and all hell breaks loose..
Posted by luvforever on :
Heck, I'm bored...can't find any darned info ~lol~ looks like allstocks peeps got it all on the table...ugh now what can I do? ~lol~ ...oh pick on chart?? ~lol~ Chart, you know it's in fun....lol
Posted by luvforever on :
Rat? What did I miss? What? You've been bad?!! ~lol~ Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: If your talken to me luv....I won't be picken anything for a bit....It's gunna take me a week to figure out how to save my ass from what I'm aready in.....LOL
Walk away for a few days and all hell breaks loose..
Oh...so all of this is your falt? should've known! Posted by RyanPBF on :
New it's not Stairway to Heaven is it.
Posted by luvforever on :
oh criminy! Guess it'll close at.89 eod then I'm going to bed! I hurt my neck putting in that outlet yesterday and putting in that wall~lol~ so I'm sore lol :0 somebodys gotta do it!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: New it's not Stairway to Heaven is it.
haha...thats the first thing I thought when he wrote that...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
This is just plain boriiing... Allstocks all tapped out.
I know I am... nothing more to play with. Would have to sell my 83 Jeep CJ7 if I wanted to play CSHD with any more funds. Aaaand I am not quite ready to get rid of any of my toys just yet.
Matter of fact I would like this thing to hit so I can expand on my toy collection.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Wait wasn't that rat who used the blue shampoo... or was that BB~ lol~ so it can't be that ugly ~lol~
This was the post that spawned the "Blue Shampoo" conversation luv..(below) You started it with that "sleeping fairy" thing... and the way YOU stated it,....YOU GOT the present FIRST!!!!LOL
You want the shampoo back???
P.S.
There were many other thing I could have said in response to your original post...I picked the least evil one...
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: No, it's nice finding this first thing...What's this under my pillow? What? The sleeping fairy left me a nice present, aww you guys and gals got it too!!!! LOL
OHHHHHH!!!! Thats what itches so bad....
PASS THE BLUE SHAMPOO!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
you figure you've got what an 80% chance of getting it right with that guess. Posted by luvforever on :
~TOYS~!!!!!!!!! LOL Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: ~TOYS~!!!!!!!!! LOL
Not commenting... have a good weekend.
Posted by luvforever on :
LOL admit it was good ~LOL~ Posted by 10of13 on :
So luv...you're the one that started the "need" for the shampoo???
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: oh criminy! Guess it'll close at.89 eod then I'm going to bed! I hurt my neck putting in that outlet yesterday and putting in that wall~lol~ so I'm sore lol :0 somebodys gotta do it!
lol i thought i was the only one that slept after the market closed
Posted by RyanPBF on :
it seems we could've all slept while the market was open.
Posted by luvforever on :
10 of 13 nooo I wasn't I was going to get bird seed and it led to someone and shampoo that was blue ~LOL~ ask Chart?!! He had an appointment cause he chocked on the bird seed that day ~LOL~ wink wink LOF
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
WOW under 700K what a waste of a day.
Posted by luvforever on :
Chart? where are you ...you shy one... ~LOL~
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: it seems we could've all slept while the market was open.
...again!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Pressing down. Didn't think they could do that?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i hear toys and think maybe THATS why people are needing all this blue shampoo...fa shame...fa shame...
Posted by luvforever on :
.89 .89 come on .89!!!!! lol ;0 what's .02cents? LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: 10 of 13 nooo I wasn't I was going to get bird seed and it led to someone and shampoo that was blue ~LOL~ ask Chart?!! He had an appointment cause he chocked on the bird seed that day ~LOL~ wink wink LOF
HEY LUV!!!
You obviously did not read My post (above)....
It prooves ....Hands down.....That YOU were the original recipient of the little fairy present..
Posted by luvforever on :
~LOL~ that's right hehe I forgot...on my pillow ~LOL~ hehe I did I did start that!!! Oh woops..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Damn it! That didn't work.... anyone see my 5 shares go by?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I put in a last minute 5 share trade at 0.90 but screwed up my request. It filled at 0.87 instead.
#$*&%$#*!!! Idiot!
Posted by glassman on :
they bought 5 shares from you?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Welllll...Allllriighty thennnnnn!!!
That was a really Sucky way to end the week!!!!
Have a good one all!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Enjoying my commission charge on my five slips. Rackel Frackle Rick%^&%* Frick*^%*^!!!!!!
OH Well! Posted by maumee river rat on :
My above post was composed just for you Tax!!!!lol
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
No I put a BUY in for 5 shares at 0.90 to see if I could pull a little EOD shareholder manipulation. I screwed up the request though and it executed at 0.87
Just laughing at myself here.
Posted by Hustla on :
Hey folks haven't paid much attention to CSHD today, but I see we all held on to our shares and kept the MMs at bay. Good luck if you still holding and likewaise to those who flipped. lets hope for that 10K even this weekend or Monday.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: New it's not Stairway to Heaven is it.
HA! No, I think it's a made up riff....even worse!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It went through immediately if it matters. Oh well if I hold them long enough those 5 shares could be worth a hundred or more apiece soI don't no what I am yelling about. Let's go Rufas!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Heck Rufas mentioned a possible "forward split" and shares for each of the spin-offs which currently number around 17.
I may be able to put my son through college on those five shares if I hold them "long enough"...
Ok that is beyond speculation that is flat out dreaming (a practice not encouraged by the Great investors). But looking at all the other shares standing right next to my five new additions I would say it does put a smile on my face for the weekend.
Have a good weekend.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
the funny thing is your trade never showed up on the L2...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Etrade probably just covered it with the size being what it was.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
You know with the SHO Threshold in effect, volume being what it was today... And if it is true MM's can't naked short.
Isn't this a very strategic and opportune time to release a 10K and SB-4? markets closed and a reset on Monday that MM's can't naked short?
I just turned on my SEC monitor.
Posted by luvforever on :
ok good weekend to all gotta go get a table saw guess no sleep today! Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I hate this waiting... everytime I am done looking at it. I think of another reason to watch.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
if that were the case and it was dropped this evening or monday in the early, early AM we'd have to give Rufus & Co. the "SMARTEST MEN ALIVE" award...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I was thinking that too. It would be almost too perfect. Just hit me as I was thinking the situation out in my head.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Heck, I'm bored...can't find any darned info ~lol~ looks like allstocks peeps got it all on the table...ugh now what can I do? ~lol~ ...oh pick on chart?? ~lol~ Chart, you know it's in fun....lol
Had to leave, back now... Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: I was thinking that too. It would be almost too perfect. Just hit me as I was thinking the situation out in my head.
Holy Chit, that really would be a powerplay ~
[dang, why didn't I think of that! ha] I like it!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
I don't guess anyone has tried to get any info out the outfit itself recently?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
From the cvsu website.........
Our Values Personal honesty, integrity, commitment; working together in teams with openness and trust; empowering others and respecting differences; encouraging risk-taking and responsibility; enjoying our work and our families.
Doesnt it just make you all warm and fuzzy inside? Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Well, I finished the week with a total of 4,000 shares. I don't know if I want a PR ASAP or not now. Wait...what the %#&* am I saying. Why flip when I can look at $50,000.00.
GOOD NIGHT ! Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
hopefully you'll be looking at more like $150k...
Posted by betting babe on :
looks like i didnt miss anything today.
i got a kick in the butt from karma for making my smartie yankees comments the other day. i had to model a pink red sox sweatshirt BLECH!
have a great weekend everybody! ~BB
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: looks like i didnt miss anything today.
i got a kick in the butt from karma for making my smartie yankees comments the other day. i had to model a pink red sox sweatshirt BLECH!
have a great weekend everybody! ~BB
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: looks like i didnt miss anything today.
i got a kick in the butt from karma for making my smartie yankees comments the other day. i had to model a pink red sox sweatshirt BLECH!
have a great weekend everybody! ~BB
haha...thats a fitting color for their uniforms...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69: Well, I finished the week with a total of 4,000 shares. I don't know if I want a PR ASAP or not now. Wait...what the %#&* am I saying. Why flip when I can look at $50,000.00.
GOOD NIGHT !
Theres an easy answer to that question. I am riding all free shares while I have no capital on the line if something fails and no $15 pps. see where it helps. I'll smile if it goes to a penny. I'll really smile if it makes more than that.
Protect your capital folks, just in case!!!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Seems like the website isn't working properly... www.cvsu.us Posted by unclerudy on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Seems like the website isn't working properly... www.cvsu.us
Just the quote tool it seems.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
The quote tool and the pr's below... wonder if they are making some changes?
Posted by unclerudy on :
Has there historically been a problem before a new PR has been released? I barely look at the site, because there is almost no useful info that comes out, that I can't get from this thread. Anyone that anal enough to know? TIA!
Posted by bigstocks on :
No
Posted by DMOST on :
So, any day,week,month a 10k right?. Then we'll all be happy. I'm just waiting for it all to unfold, on a positive note, that is.
"YOU PAY YOUR MONEY,YOU MAKE YOUR CHOICE"
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm also taking it upon myself to forward this Naked Shorting info to Mr Rufus in an email. True, he probably already knows, BUT.. It is to let HIM know that "WE" know... Hence maybe Rufus will let somekind of info out regarding it.
Naked shorting killed our buying pressure and has deluted our stock and I'm pissed.
In the end I know all will be good, but I'd like some reassurance, wouldn't everyone???
So I'll let you know if I get a response... Chart ~
ps. Those who are new to the short world, someone had posted this link, and it is very good, simple to follow in video form. FYI
Hey Chart... I'm really feeling like this 10 K is goin to be out closer to Sept. 30 than August 30.
He can't totally screw the MM's on this as these are the very same people he will need to support his stock price.
I think he's giving them time to catch up, while paying lip service to the shareholders by speaking against shorts.
This PPS will slowly fall.... PR, or announcements about newly hypothecated bonds over 500 million have not made this stock price go up.... but rather down.
There is one big crush left for the MM's to do...allowing them time to gather shares to return to lenders.
I still think it's going to happen... just not nearly as soon as we think...
No 10k on Sunday/Monday will likely mean we are trading all week. This is really going to test the CSHD shareholders....
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Could go eitherb way... you think the chart shows upswing? Not seeing it... but this is a wierd stock that hasn't followed any rules..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Dog... Now that we have proof of the naked shorts it makes sense why the price didn't rise on good news. They sold everyone FTD (fail to deliever's) which do not show in your account, no way of telling. -That is why Rufus was calling for certs, he KNEW this would happen IMO.
I don't know about the price falling now though...
With no naked shorting going on because we have reached the threshold, it may just start to correct itself. There will be LOW volume now as people will be buying actually shares not getting air for their money. Unless weak hands sell. -but after a BILLION DOLLAR U.S. BOND DEAL? You would have to be an idiot to get out now!!! That's NOT MO, that's just the truth!
The piece of the puzzle that I'd LOVE to know, is HOW is Rufus going to deal with it?? He KNEW it would happen, -the calling of certs way back when and saying that they would have time to cover gives that away...
And yes dog, I do see the 10k coming later, there are alot of things that need "cleaning up" IMO.
I do feel good about being on the side that Rufus is on, he has stayed the course, called the shots and did everything he said he would. We even have a dealine of Sept 30th so it is just a waiting game.
STILL LONG!!!
The way I see it dog, those FTD's still need to be covered... There has to be one heck of a squeeze starting right now, little by little they'll be working to balance the books now, not doing it all at once cause the price would shoot to $5. People's buy orders already aren't getting filled fast, I think it all fits.
This is an interesting ride to say the least ~
Enjoy your weekend my friend!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Getting rid of naked shorting does that! I agree! Just weak hands that can do any damage, or uninformed hands... -maybe I should say...
Yeah, I guess we'll be getting some more here too next week.
Good luck Money!
Posted by dog on :
Thanks Chart... I'm not doubting that eventually this PPS will rise slowly until 10k... I just feel like there will be a concerted effort at least once more to shake us... and people will shake... as mostly penny players can't stand this kind of drama and time frame. After watching level2's for weeks... they are mirror selling with drops... and IMO will likely get one more big drop before the upswing...like upper .60's before the real squeeze hits, and it rises.
Rufus has more work to do... he's not going to totally screw over these guys... he needs them.
He will let them make their money, then move forward from there.
He warned us early on to hold tight... then shut up completely. I think the ride is just starting.
The MM's don't need volume to push the price down.. just selling amongst themselves could do it until shares are shook loose from the public.
They are not done messing with us.
Posted by dog on :
I pulled some money outn of CSHD to play with on other stocks... making more in the short run to get free shares of CSHD when the time is right... others may be thinking of doing the same thing once this week of trading starts... dip by Tuesday or Wednesday.
Posted by dog on :
one bad day... iHub goes nuts = people selling... IMHO
Posted by Chartwalker on :
dog... Totally get what you are saying, and sounds solid. But IMO it's just a guess what the PPS will do now with the bogus certs (naked) out of the way, the MM's can bring it down and we can keep buying too! That would be a losing game to them cause the share price difference still has to be made up for even if they exchange it between themselves.
I think the BIG numbers will be done "out" of the circle, from broker to broker they do that alot behind the scences. That letter Schwab sent out is PROOF of that!
So I personally don't think we'll see big dips anymore, but yes, expect "head fakes" and shakes but the books are the books, if they are getting shares at .80 they can sell them at a loss to each other to TRY to bring the PPS down, but someone still has to take that loss pure and simple.
This is why I think we won't see to much of that here. Schwab's letter is designed to do that.
So with all those things in mind and even looking at the charts, MACD Histogram momentum bars is shrinking back to the positive side now, so yes a "possible" uptrend could be born right here.
Time will tell us ~
But right now, I'd be doing just what you are, looking for profits elsewhere and buying more here. Naked short % was up 5 THOUSAND and some percent according to that report!!!!
We would be at $3-$5 right now and there wouldn't be bashers if it wasn't for that naked short BS!!! IMO
Who has come up with ANYTHING solid against this company??
Sleep good, party hard... I see graet days ahead! Posted by dog on :
Rufus on iHub now!
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: tcl who wrote msg# 56116 Date:8/26/2006 11:00:14 AM Post #of 56121
Great, just keep adding things and staff which slow the process down and increase the reset price. A good trade off I think.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by dog on :
My opinion... no 10K for awhile... still working on it
Posted by dog on :
What is the actual deadline for the 10K?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
10k Sept. 30
Posted by dog on :
Hey Chart... if that is really Rufus.... I'm gleaning that there is no 10K this week... what do you think?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
dog. right, that what I saw before and now.
But I think the check is REALLY in the mail! lol ~~
That's are boy Rufus, go get'm!
Man... sniff-sniff.. "I love this guy... Posted by Chartwalker on :
Those "dips" in the stock price IMO were not weak hands, some may have gotten dragged into it but it was the MM's selling shares they didn't have (naked shorts) [btw.. writing simple so newbie's can follow] that is what those big dips where about.
They set off false sell-offs in hopes of triggering a selloff, sometimes they worked.. The naked shorts they sacrificed paid for themselves when the PPS went lower.
"They can't do that now" Muh Hu Ha ha!!!
Be back later tonight ~
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
how much water does the guy posting on Ihub really hold...has anyone actually called and asked if Rufus or an intermediary has actually been posting there...it's just a little hard to believe HE is actually posting...
Posted by dog on :
good question...
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
Don't know if its him or not but your all invited to a cook out:
It has been verified from HSM. Someone called him while he was posting. He is tearing someone a new ahole.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
Here are some of RH posts:
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: liable who wrote msg# 56158 Date:8/26/2006 11:30:51 AM Post #of 56257
Here let me help you with that; Send to the following
To: Debbie T. Hampton Staff Attorney Branch of Enforcement No 4
From:
Please see the following post of Rufus Paul Harris CEO of CSHD
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: Our-Street who wrote msg# 56061
Date:8/26/2006 10:39:32 AM Post # of 56170
You truly are a lying Fraud;
You just keep on spinning and spinning.
Most of the masses have seen you for what you are, step out be a man or woman and Identify you self!
I have a RT conference system being designed for our web site and I challenge you to a live voice debate on our conference system.
I will end your lies and fraudulent statements.
The only requirement is for you to identify your self, with valid ID.
You see things have happened that you said will never happen, I remember “we will never be CSHD”.
You are invited to Come and get you some!
I’ll fly you to Atlanta and we will do a live Video conference; face to Fraud and man to liar.
Lets hear from the shareholders, what do you think? Good Ideal!
GODSPEED things are great and getting better, remember hold on to your shares.
Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: Dimension who wrote msg# 56097
Date:8/26/2006 10:46:47 AM Post # of 56173
Dimmy;
Why don’t you go back to your buddies Michael Williams CEO of BBAN.PK or your friend Michael Holbrook Financial advisor for BBAN.PK and the old FHAL.OB and plan another attack on another boat load of Investors holding a BB.
You are part of the ring and will be found out soon enough.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: tcl who wrote msg# 56106
Date:8/26/2006 10:53:27 AM Post # of 56173
Wonderful; Loving Life and everything it has to offer.
Things just keep on getting bigger and bigger, planned it this way though so not really surprised, just excited as they come together.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: Dimension who wrote msg# 56108
Date:8/26/2006 10:57:15 AM Post # of 56174
Dimmy;
I get paid from the company.
Get a life or a wife; either way do you really think that these people listen to you or Our-Sheet.
Why were you the only one who admitted to having Michael Williams’s cell phone number?
Why were you the only one who could get in touch with him?
It’s called reality, take a good long drink of it, it the only truth.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: tcl who wrote msg# 56116
Date:8/26/2006 11:00:14 AM Post # of 56175
Great, just keep adding things and staff which slow the process down and increase the reset price. A good trade off I think.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: Dimension who wrote msg# 56118
Date:8/26/2006 11:11:06 AM Post # of 56176
Dimmy;
Lets play for a moment!
-where's the 10k?
The same place it was a week ago, but now it has 1.4 B in Pressed and 8-K Assets added.
-where's the mysterious 500 million in cash?
The same place it was a week ago in the bank in Europe
-didn't you insinuate over and over that this would all be a quick process that will be over by end of july/early august? Was those statements exaggerated or ill-informed?
Lets call it process delayed
-Where is the $15/share
Its not $15 any more it is $54 now
-have you honored your verbal agreement to pay a shareholder $15/July 31st yet -will you also do good by txprincess?
Txprincess was told that I will guarantee her the price at reset. If she sold then she took a dumb azzzzsss advice and not the CEO’s.
-Are all these subs really subs? Are we going to see some of them suddenly disappear now that ALLEGEDLY, some are stating they have had nothing to do with you in a year since you failed, AGAIN, to provide funding? How does one accidentally forget what are their subs and not subs?
But of course, how about some facts, give to me in writing that a sub said they have nothing to do with CSHD and I will see to it.
-what is the name of the trust and where is it located that has bought up the shares
The same place it was a week ago, wait you will see that soon enough.
-so many more questions...
So much more web to spin
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: Dimension who wrote msg# 56139
Date:8/26/2006 11:15:24 AM Post # of 56176
Dimmy;
Bennett is not worried about me it is not his job; I hired him a (Criminal Defense attorney) to go after people like you who post Bull Sheet after BS.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by: Rufus Paul Harris In reply to: jgbuz who wrote msg# 56144
Date:8/26/2006 11:18:23 AM Post # of 56177
Jgbuz;
I a different kind of CEO, I will see that liars and Frauds that post crap and cause people to loose their investment gets their just reward. The SEC and no one else is doing it.
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Now just forward this
GODSPEED Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Conversion Solutions Holdings Company
Posted by dog on :
Interesting basher counterpost?
Posted by: investersedge In reply to: None Date:8/26/2006 12:07:55 PM Post #of 56277
Hi, Just joined investorshub today and I wanted to stop in and say hi. I am a Canadian investor and not held bound to the 144 rule that daytrading americans are. I have over 50000 shares of this stock and sitting at a healthy profit right now I am just would like to give you all fair warning I am unloading then Monday exactly at noon regardless of price since I am well ahead right now.
I thought it was fair warning to tell you this since the effect on the stock will be a very sharp downturn when I do so. I have read alot on this forum and I am giving fair warning to the 3 guys manipulating the stock right now that I will be taking your money one way or another now.
I have unloaded alot more previously at a profit and found that I am still being " owed " money approx 6000 dollars profit that this stock has delayed paying me even for 1 week now since their account balance is currently going red and monday... even redder...
I have knowledge the stock is currently pending investigation and I want out before it is halted by sec and investigated for P&D acivities along with 3 individuals working with harris.
Sorry I am telling you this but I think its fair warning to you if you are heavily invested in this stock to get out before I unload all my shares at market value Monday 12:00.
-Zorro
Posted by glassman on :
strange post... i find this part to be particuarly strange...
I have unloaded alot more previously at a profit and found that I am still being " owed " money approx 6000 dollars profit that this stock has delayed paying me even for 1 week now since their account balance is currently going red and monday... even redder... Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah that whole post was kinda wierd...
it's amazing how someone who doesn't even live in this country and is not a citizen can get info from the SEC that hundreds of people here are not privy to...
i think it's a bunch of BS...of course on Monday i suppose we'll be able to tell at twelve...although i can't see 50k shares even doing a whole lot...
oh and that comment about being owed money? he could be refering to his account settling and state it the same way...to many "strange" items in that post...
Posted by dog on :
iHub mods yanked the posts...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Dog, The Rufus posts or the Investorsedge posts?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
all rufus... and investor's edge... that's wierd
Posted by djg7 on :
I'm getting a margin account on Monday from etrade. The 10K deadline of Sept. 30 allows ample time to flip this for additional shares IMO based on the recent history of this stock. Therefore if this plays out as we expect we all will be happy campers around the end of September. I don't know about anybody else but I'm sure willing to wait for the potential of a big payday. Holding strong! GLTA
Posted by glassman on :
OK, dog...
as far as trying to capture the stuff that's being deleted over there?
just make sure you aren't being selective about what you re-post OK?
i've never liked the idea that Rufus or any other company insiders from any company is posting on the BB's... they may be deleting this stuff cuz they have identified that it's all crap...
does that make sense to you?
Posted by dog on :
Hey djg7,
I think this is a sign that the wait will be much longer than we anticipated... not a good sign for the next month... possibly good in the long run.
Posts like this just continue to polarize investors... you either believe in this company or not....
My worry is that the 10k will come out... another opportunity.. and the SEC says "that's some creative financing there... sorry, too creative.." and puts a kaibosh on the whole project.
Rufus did what he said.. he's ok... the SEC are the bad guys.. and everyone walks away.
I'm long mind you, but reassessing the risk.
This is the craziest turn of events.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
what dog reposted is actually what was contained in the link that I posted...just in case that post itself was deleted...dog didn't actually select that info...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: I'm getting a margin account on Monday from etrade. The 10K deadline of Sept. 30 allows ample time to flip this for additional shares IMO based on the recent history of this stock. Therefore if this plays out as we expect we all will be happy campers around the end of September. I don't know about anybody else but I'm sure willing to wait for the potential of a big payday. Holding strong! GLTA
Make sure you get the 100 commission free trades promotion. also I just started listening to the archives webinars that the "market guys have been doing and they are great. excellent one on candelsticking that I just watched last night. To get a margin acount there is a 2000 dollar minimum initial deposit, the cash account is a 1000 min. GLTY
Posted by dog on :
Yes I just put as much of the post that I could .. it's a recap from Blue.. but the mods are deleting and I wanted the Allstock crowd to have a look before it was taken to the great beyond...
Posted by glassman on :
the mods may be deleting for all the right reasons...
that's what i'm saying...
i stopped readin over there a while back... and i ain't gonna go back over there now...
we know that the brokers are reporting heavy short interest on this stock even tho it's a penny stock and the prevailing attitude in the past has been that this stock and stocks like this "can't be shorted"
IMO? that explains all the "insanity" very nicely...
Posted by dog on :
I agree Glass.. why is Rufus even on there? It leaves me conflicted... I sort of fell good about it... but on the othe r end why is he there? When people insult me on iHub.. I don't respond... why is he there? Why is he risking potential SEC problems?
Posted by glassman on :
i doubt it's him..
Posted by wallymac on :
Interesting article in Forbes regarding Naked Short Selling.
"New data from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission reveals trade settlement fails in early February 2005 that were 27 times greater than the total number of shares Global Links (other-otc: GLLC - news - people ) had issued at the time. The data show suspicious trading in Global Links far earlier and to a far larger degree than any previously released by the SEC.
Data released to Patch earlier this month had shown trade fails of 10 million shares starting in mid-April, a time when 4 million shares of Global Links were issued and outstanding."
Those are a couple exerpts. The whole article s worth reading.
heya Tex.... do you think it's Rufus on iHub? He stated that he does post on iHub.
Posted by glassman on :
based on the trading patterns i watched? i have speculated that FHAL/CSHD had as many as 10 million shorts at one time...
with 2.5 million legally obtained being reported by the brokers?
i may have actually been low on my GUESS....
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: heya Tex.... do you think it's Rufus on iHub? He stated that he does post on iHub.
doggie,
have no idea...have not read enough over there to be able to have an informed opinion re diction, syntax, etc. say, compared to verified posts and/or recorded speech patterns...Will say this, though: ANY official of any company is courting trouble by posting without some sort of disclosure statements, such as that found at the bottom of press releases...and pumping its own stock on a board? I doubt the SEC encourages such behavior...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: based on the trading patterns i watched? i have speculated that FHAL/CSHD had as many as 10 million shorts at one time...
with 2.5 million legally obtained being reported by the brokers?
i may have actually been low on my GUESS....
Did you listen to the radio conversation re Schwab borrowing?
Posted by glassman on :
nope.. gotta link?
i did a LOT of research during GVRP...
i even found that i could hire an MM direct if i had the the dough...
Posted by T e x on :
the president of barbados.
Posted by glassman on :
awesome interview:
both the parties did an awesome job...
if the "facts", as i understand them, from reading many, many sources, did not match up? i would suspect this interview had been staged...
so? now we are just left to wonder: who has "gone over" to the dark side? Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
So you are a big bank who goes out and buys 1 million shares of xyz stock, and the law allows you to borrow 140% of that which is fully paid for. You buy the long position and then turn around and borrow 140% and sell them to your clients, of course with more shares the price goes down 40%, after the borrowing drives the price down you buy another long position, this time twice as much at a much lower price, as the short position is covered the price goes back up 40%.
Since your buy was larger at the lower price it does not have to regain a full 40% for you to make money. If it goes back 25 % you still make money and you do this again and again til the stock is worthless, or until the stock is so low it is likely to be a 10 bagger where in you take out a big long position.
Is that how it works?
Posted by glassman on :
pretty smart for a dead punk rocker...
Posted by dog on :
I still think we are in for quite a wait until the 10K comes... and people are going to get crazier.... look for it after Labor Day, or closer to the Sept. 30 deadline.
Hopefully Rufus is loading up on backing and further delineating his business plan to make the 10K a home run, while addressing all the legalities and obstacles they have likely encountered... or it's pumping.
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: awesome interview:
both the parties did an awesome job...
if the "facts", as i understand them, from reading many, many sources, did not match up? i would suspect this interview had been staged...
so? now we are just left to wonder: who has "gone over" to the dark side?
I did get a lil different reaction, listening the second time than I did when it was first aired....bottom line, though...sounds like Schwab does indeed lend clients' shares...
Here's some mechancis I still don't get: apparently, client simply phones in request to get shares back for trading, and pretty quickly they're replaced... so, now? whoever was borrowing has to cover that amount? I mean, at that point? they're not borrowed, anymore...
Posted by glassman on :
and pretty quickly they're replaced
are they? the settlement takes three days...
by "creating extra volatility"? a lot of people will leave the postition, whether up or down? it doesn't matter...
Posted by T e x on :
maybe I need to listen again....as I recall, the guy said they sign some paperwork, the shares are then held in a separate account, but the client call and soon they're available for trading again--was tied in to the part about *not* getting shares from Cybertrader clients...they're too active... Anyway, I don't remember anything about "settling" being involved: they already have them...
Posted by trade04 on :
Yah i just got finished reading back through all his replies to other ihub posters. good stuff $54 is the latest "press" as he calls it. we should call the new thread.....Club 54
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: Yah i just got finished reading back through all his replies to other ihub posters. good stuff $54 is the latest "press" as he calls it. we should call the new thread.....Club 54
Or Car 54, where are you? LOL
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: Yah i just got finished reading back through all his replies to other ihub posters. good stuff $54 is the latest "press" as he calls it. we should call the new thread.....Club 54
Or Car 54, where are you? LOL
hmmm im trying to understand ur joke, and can't
Posted by T e x on :
OK Tex...don't remember anything about "settling" being involved
"fully paid" is the key wording here that i am focusing on.....it means settled, as well as no borrowing is involved in the purchasers account...
"no margin debt against the account" as opposed to the stock..
if you have bought on a margin account? and you have unsettled funds within your acount AT ALL? are all of your shares that are in your account "fully paid"??? this is the question that it all hinges on IMO...
if shares in cybertrade are frequently already available to borrow without asking.... is there a sort of a "slush fund" available at all times???
this particular fully paid issue? this is stated to be an extreme situation. is this required to bolster the "slush fund" that the brokers already have???
remember the three day rule? they encourage everyone to use margin so the traders who are not buying on margin anyway can ignore the three day rule, and trade more frequently.... this gives the brokers a big "pool" of shares that can be shorted at any given time???
that's one of the reasons i said this interview is very very well handled, and i would suspect staging (if i was a really paranoid person. ) however? they do clearly state that they were not caught off-guard by the question didn't they?
the fact that they offer 6% to borrow shares? indicates to me that they have, or are on the verge of having, a lot of failures to deliver...which is also indicated by the fact that this one is on the SHO list now for 13 days...
"this stock is a hard-to-borrow stock"... "pretty unique".. "about a week to move the shares from another broker to an account at schwab " "pretty solid demand" "securities lending fully paid"
"I'm never provided with any reason for why we are lending to any PRIME BROKERS"
Posted by sceptor on :
Stop and think for a minute.
the reason they are borrowing shares are not to short the stock. They suspect along with the rest of us that the reset is for real, and they can not sell shares now or in the future without pre-comitting to borrowing them ahead of time.
In other words, they are borrowing now at discount prices to sell on the reset for huge gains. They know the deal is real.
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Stop and think for a minute.
the reason they are borrowing shares are not to short the stock. They suspect along with the rest of us that the reset is for real, and they can not sell shares now or in the future without pre-comitting to borrowing them ahead of time.
In other words, they are borrowing now at discount prices to sell on the reset for huge gains. They know the deal is real.
they can't "borrow" shares to make money later (theyll just end up with a huge loss). you can "buy" to make money on the reset. my guess is they had to short some to lower their buy in price
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Stop and think for a minute.
the reason they are borrowing shares are not to short the stock. They suspect along with the rest of us that the reset is for real, and they can not sell shares now or in the future without pre-comitting to borrowing them ahead of time.
In other words, they are borrowing now at discount prices to sell on the reset for huge gains. They know the deal is real.
AMEN brutha! That is how this trail is looking!!! Go Rufus!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: Stop and think for a minute.
the reason they are borrowing shares are not to short the stock. They suspect along with the rest of us that the reset is for real, and they can not sell shares now or in the future without pre-comitting to borrowing them ahead of time.
In other words, they are borrowing now at discount prices to sell on the reset for huge gains. They know the deal is real.
sorry, this makes no sense, to me...
Glass: I need to listen again...eg: re Cybertrader? What I heard is they don't even bother, cuz those traders are too active...
Posted by glassman on :
Glass: I need to listen again...eg: re Cybertrader? What I heard is they don't even bother, cuz those traders are too active...
hmmm....
too active, so they say...
but if you listen to ALL of it? and ask a different question?
do they even HAVE to ask to borrow them?
and? they have three days to deliver the shares anyway...
think about it...
in an active traders account? they are always using margin... no, there's no charge to borrow the money used to buy with unsettled funds....
but? it is still margin used.. cuz you are borrowing your own money..
i went round and round with someone very high up at Scotty over this...
Posted by T e x on :
well, as I understand it, this *particular program* is for clients with at least 50k shares, who don't trade a lot... Presumably that's the draw: they're just "sitting there," so why not collect interest?
If it were me? I'd ask "Why" When they finally answer, "so somebody can short the stock" I think I'd say, "Hell to da no. I ain't helping somebody [esp. hedgies] short something that I have a long position in."
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Can someone sum up what the discussion and argument has been for the past few pages. What are we discussing, and with this short borrowing what does it mean?
Posted by glassman on :
with this short borrowing what does it mean?
we won't know till the play is over...
first thing we have determined for fact is that short-selling of pennies is legal and is being done..
Posted by 10of13 on :
One comment on the "Rufas posts"..there are several people that call "him" or Mr. Stanley...next call simply ask..."do you post on Ihub"...I am not sure that he really could post with out some type of legal thing happening...IMO..
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: One comment on the "Rufas posts"..there are several people that call "him" or Mr. Stanley...next call simply ask..."do you post on Ihub"...I am not sure that he really could post with out some type of legal thing happening...IMO..
Why?
Posted by cassity on :
Hey 10, what if some of those people on IHUB are some old business partners that have bad feelings towards Rufus?
Posted by 10of13 on :
What are you saying? You believe that it IS RUFAS? and if asked "hey Rufas, do you post on IHUB?"...he will lie?
Posted by cassity on :
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 10of13: [qb] What are you saying? You believe that it IS RUFAS? and if asked "hey Rufas, do you post on IHUB?"...he will lie?
To be honest I do think it's weird, but what I think is weirder is that Dimension, Street and the others would spend hour after hour BASHING over there. Why would anyone spend that kind of time doing that unless you have some kind of MOTIVE. Just thoughts. Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: What are you saying? You believe that it IS RUFAS? and if asked "hey Rufas, do you post on IHUB?"...he will lie?
To be
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by cassity:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: What are you saying? You believe that it IS RUFAS? and if asked "hey Rufas, do you post on IHUB?"...he will lie?
To be
Fixed it Posted by a surfer on :
I just got back from Mr. Harris' cookout. I wish that Phil, Bodi, anyone else but me could have gone.....I am way too green to understand all, or even ask the right questions. My wife and I arrived.....cookout had not started yet; probably only 8 or so people there. Mr. Harris met us at our truck and immediately introduced himself. He was very cordial. He spent about 45 minutes with us. Started by taking us through the stalls showing us some of the horses. We then went to his office and spent about 30 mins there. He is an extremely confident man; probably more than anyone I have met, yet he was not at all arrogant. We met his wife and kids and seems to be just as much family oriented as he has said. He told me about the bonds, how he got started, background on BBAN and FHAL....really all the DD that is posted throughout this forum. I asked if the 10K was ready and he said that it had been ready for some time, however, they are still cleaning up messes from the FHAL group (some of the same folks that had been involved with BBAN). He made no bones about taking legal action against them where appropriate and that through CSHD many will pay for how they took investors in the past. I asked whether a 10k, 10k/a, s4 would trigger the reset. He said it will begin when he files the 10K and that he has to have it filed no later than 9/30. He said that $54 is the market price......I asked what the book price was and he did not answer. I asked if he was going to wait until 9/30 and he respectfully stated, "I can't answer that except to say soon." (I had to ask even though I knew his answer!). I pressed as we were leaving about 9/30...again he said I can't say but that it would probably be sooner than that.
I post a picture in a minute...assuming I can......he is a small man, gruff looking, but it is Saturday and he is having a cookout! I was happy to see him as a down-to-earth individual; very confident, very polite. My wife and I were both appreciative of his hospitality during our short visit
This came from kplatt on HSM
Posted by a surfer on :
He has pictures with rufus on page 479 of cshd thread.. This tells me that it was him on I-hub earlier. He invited shareholders to attend a cookout.
Posted by a surfer on :
He said the squeeze is beginning right now......he is waiting on (help me out, can't remember what he called them)....counts from I assume MM's???....I know that is vague, sorry. He is expecting the numbers between Mon and Wed....then he said it would get very interesting.....he said later, make no mistake about it, the squeeze is beginning right now.
More from kplatt
Posted by glassman on :
what was on the menu? JK...
sheeesh.. this just gets more interesting evry day...
SHO list for 13 days? yes a squeeze is possible...
just remeber? that in order to have a squeeze? you must still have more buyers than sellers...
Posted by a surfer on :
If you happen to look he is the one with the red shirt.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: what was on the menu? JK...
sheeesh.. this just gets more interesting evry day...
LOL
Posted by glassman on :
SHO list for 13 days? yes a squeeze is possible...
just remember? that in order to have a squeeze? you must still have more buyers than sellers...
not trying to be either negative or positive just realistic...
Posted by a surfer on :
glass what do you make of him going on I-Hub
thurs and fri. we had more buyers than sellers
Posted by trade04 on :
Can someone link me to the picture of RPH...i need to take a look at this guy....
Posted by a surfer on :
I tried to bring it over from HSM could'nt do it.
go to page 479 on the thread in twi- light zone
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: What are you saying? You believe that it IS RUFAS? and if asked "hey Rufas, do you post on IHUB?"...he will lie?
It is Rufus. That was confirmed quite a while back. It was at time that I was still frequenting the board. The first night he posted he was also answering email that were sent to him. He has posted about setting up a Paltalk and then be on it a few hours later. You don't need to take my word for it you can call and confirm but it is him.
I'm not sure how comfortable I am with him posting on the board but I have encountered other boards that have CEO's posting on them. Mostly it's CEO that seem to be new to the workings of Public companies and are attempting to understand the shareholders. I personally would prefer that the communicate via PR or conference call so that everyone has the opportunity to get the information first hand and at the same time. I'm not sure of the legality that's another issue.
GLTA Wally
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
I am trying to get this in my head, if 100 people with 1000 shares have paid up accounts then you have a pool of 100,000 shares to borrow against. Where does the 40% come from? to make it 140%?
Also, the interviewed guy for schwab said this would need to be a program that the stock would be in demand for over a month.
Is he admitting they are borrowing the shares for more than the 3 day settlement window? Naked shorting is the bank letting many banks borrow against the same settled stocks.
If it is a stock with over a 30 day demand window then it would be a stock that has news more than 30 days out, people buying in expectation, if it comes true you have a fall for 30 days + before a run when news arrives. In a pump and dump expectations cause the stock to grow in volume but fall in price, after the window the news does not meet expectations and it falls even more.
In a real stock the bank at some point takes a long position in a pump and dump the borrow and sell shares but take out short positions.
The banks know what is coming all along or they wouldn't run the risk.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by wallymac:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: What are you saying? You believe that it IS RUFAS? and if asked "hey Rufas, do you post on IHUB?"...he will lie?
It is Rufus. That was confirmed quite a while back. It was at time that I was still frequenting the board. The first night he posted he was also answering email that were sent to him. He has posted about setting up a Paltalk and then be on it a few hours later. You don't need to take my word for it you can call and confirm but it is him.
I'm not sure how comfortable I am with him posting on the board but I have encountered other boards that have CEO's posting on them. Mostly it's CEO that seem to be new to the workings of Public companies and are attempting to understand the shareholders. I personally would prefer that the communicate via PR or conference call so that everyone has the opportunity to get the information first hand and at the same time. I'm not sure of the legality that's another issue.
GLTA Wally
Its got to be him. This fella from HSM went to the cookout less than an hour from his house got pictures came back and posted them.. Really weird. Maybe I should go back to the Silver market LOL
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
You start to realize the stock market isn't set up for companies, investors, but for banks.
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
Wait...do you mean to tell me that "Rufas" invited shareholders to a cookout? and then people posted pictures of the guy at the cookout?
WTF?
I am not sure what to say...I am simply shaking my head...this is all too bizarre...
Posted by JohnnyRotten on :
quote: Many publicly traded securities are not registered under Section 12(g) of the Exchange Act. Investors in such stocks often must make investment and trading decisions without good information regarding the number of outstanding shares and the amount of insider ownership. These conditions increase the need for short interest disclosure in such OTC equity securities. For example, section 16(c) of the Exchange Act forbids short selling by corporate insiders. This salutary rule does not apply to issuers that do not have a class of securities registered under Section 12(g) of the Exchange Act (“non-reporting issuers”). As a result, the market for a non-reporting issuer’s securities may be manipulated downward by corporate insiders who sell short to take advantage of their superior access to information.
When it is legal to short your own stock investors get screwed. Disclosing OS is minor compared to this practice. Posted by RichBy26 on :
very bizarre, how did this guy get invited??? Not sure how much credence I give this post. It leaves more questions than answers...
Posted by a surfer on :
rufus had a bbq and klapp went and took this picture of our main man rufus = red shirt
__________________
Posted by RichBy26 on :
I understand that part, how did klapp find out about this bbq???
Posted by a surfer on :
on I-hub he invited people to the cookout, NO B.S.
Un friggin real
Posted by a surfer on :
Go to HSM and read pages 469 to 480
Posted by RichBy26 on :
Wish I would have know about it, I would have paid the man a visit! Funny how he invites people to his house but does not return my phone calls or emails. Anyone else have this problem??
Posted by a surfer on :
love his shirt;
"something about you ATTRACTS ME...i wish i could put my finger on it."
LOL
and it's from abercrombie and fitch. i love Rufus.
This is whats on his shirt in the pic. F_ING hilarious!!!!
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: He has pictures with rufus on page 479 of cshd thread.. This tells me that it was him on I-hub earlier. He invited shareholders to attend a cookout.
ok are youy saying post 479 or page? cuz i'm not sure how to get to page numbers besides clicking my way there
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: He said the squeeze is beginning right now......he is waiting on (help me out, can't remember what he called them)....counts from I assume MM's???....I know that is vague, sorry. He is expecting the numbers between Mon and Wed....then he said it would get very interesting.....he said later, make no mistake about it, the squeeze is beginning right now.
More from kplatt
they are waiting for the nobo list. The T/A will bounce this against the amount issued and will then have an accounting for the shares shorted.
quote: Q. Can I find out who the “street name” holders are?
A. Typically, “street name” beneficial owners are not identifiable. However, an issuer may be able to identify a portion of the “street” population by obtaining a listing of Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners (“NOBO” list). An issuer can request a NOBO listing from ADP. The listing will indicate those beneficial owners who have instructed their broker that they do not object to the disclosing of certain ownership information about themselves. Beneficial owners that do object to the disclosure of certain ownership information about themselves are called Objecting Beneficial Owners.
Non-Objecting Beneficial Owners and Objecting Beneficial Owners constitute the entire “street name” population. Consequently, a NOBO list will only provide the identities of a segment of the aggregate beneficial owner population.
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Wish I would have know about it, I would have paid the man a visit! Funny how he invites people to his house but does not return my phone calls or emails. Anyone else have this problem??
must be your breath. LOL
apparently he took 3 calls while talking to kplatt alone. Where do you think you rank in the list of people that are trying to call him?
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: Wish I would have know about it, I would have paid the man a visit! Funny how he invites people to his house but does not return my phone calls or emails. Anyone else have this problem??
must be your breath. LOL
apparently he took 3 calls while talking to kplatt alone. Where do you think you rank in the list of people that are trying to call him?
Just seems funny how some claim to speak with him on a regular basis, but my simple emails and voice mails get no reponse. Everytime I call the office he is conveniently out of the office... Anyone have good contact info on him they would like to share??
Posted by a surfer on :
This is everything ffrom HSM in a nutshell...
THESE ARE THE EVENTS AS REPORTED THROUGH THE DD OF KPLATT!
Quote: Originally Posted by BostonludeDid you ask him about the institutions supporting this value?
We didn't talk about that much other than what we have already heard. He said most won't get involved under $5 but that he knows of several waiting to get in. He also said (hope I heard this right), that a group wanted to work with him to get in now for several million shares....said he would have no part of it....they can get in when the price is reset.
I also asked him about the Schwab deal.....he felt that it was a few institutionals working through Schwab to get in early/cheap shares.
Quote: Originally Posted by GaOnMyMindAt $54, that makes the squeeze even more significant, right?What impact could this squeeze have and what time frame? Does a squeeze happen instantly or over the course of months or weeks?I'm increasing my small position as soon as my spare cash clears (my dad always said, "When my rich uncle gets out the poor house")
He said the squeeze is beginning right now......he is waiting on (help me out, can't remember what he called them)....counts from I assume MM's???....I know that is vague, sorry. He is expecting the numbers between Mon and Wed....then he said it would get very interesting.....he said later, make no mistake about it, the squeeze is beginning right now.
Quote: Originally Posted by FullblastThanks for the update Klplatt!Did you tell him that you were from HSM, and that he has a lot more supporters and a lot fewer bashers here? j/kAnd how was the BBQ?
Actually I did tell him I was from HSM and didn't appreciate "the other site!" I mentioned "Our-Stre**" and he waived him off like a fly off his horses arse! He is definitely after bigger fish.
I'm sorry....I have a picture but can't get it to download. I click on the insert image icon but it doesn't allow me to put the photo in. I suck at this stuff. He is a small man; by appearance not what I expected. But as soon as he introduced himself I recognized his voice from Paltalk. Don't invest on emotions, correct? I must say, after meeting him and spending 45 mins with him, I am even more confident than ever....even my somewhat doubting wife was impressed.
No, we didn't stay for the BBQ.....we already had plans this afternoon so couldn't stay.....he did invite us though.....and yes, I think it was because I smelled good!
KPLATTS FIRST REPORT: I just got back from Mr. Harris' cookout. I wish that Phil, Bodi, anyone else but me could have gone.....I am way too green to understand all, or even ask the right questions.
My wife and I arrived.....cookout had not started yet; probably only 8 or so people there. Mr. Harris met us at our truck and immediately introduced himself. He was very cordial. He spent about 45 minutes with us. Started by taking us through the stalls showing us some of the horses. We then went to his office and spent about 30 mins there. He is an extremely confident man; probably more than anyone I have met, yet he was not at all arrogant. We met his wife and kids and seems to be just as much family oriented as he has said. He told me about the bonds, how he got started, background on BBAN and FHAL....really all the DD that is posted throughout this forum. I asked if the 10K was ready and he said that it had been ready for some time, however, they are still cleaning up messes from the FHAL group (some of the same folks that had been involved with BBAN). He made no bones about taking legal action against them where appropriate and that through CSHD many will pay for how they took investors in the past.
I asked whether a 10k, 10k/a, s4 would trigger the reset. He said it will begin when he files the 10K and that he has to have it filed no later than 9/30. He said that $54 is the market price......I asked what the book price was and he did not answer. I asked if he was going to wait until 9/30 and he respectfully stated, "I can't answer that except to say soon." (I had to ask even though I knew his answer!). I pressed as we were leaving about 9/30...again he said I can't say but that it would probably be sooner than that.
I post a picture in a minute...assuming I can......he is a small man, gruff looking, but it is Saturday and he is having a cookout! I was happy to see him as a down-to-earth individual; very confident, very polite. My wife and I were both appreciative of his hospitality during our short visit.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
thanks for the post surfer... Does anyone have a good contact # for Rufus, the only one I have is his office and he never seems to be in...
Posted by trade04 on :
RichBy, I know what you mean, it all depends really on the ceo. i use to be in contact with a ceo of another stock. he consistantly answered my emails, sometimes even conversate back and forth on a subject, and hed ask for my shareholder opinion etc etc, yet others would complain about not getting their responses, so its how it is i guess
Posted by a surfer on :
To his defense-- Can you imagine the # of calls and e-mails he gets. It's got to be a staggering amount
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: To his defense-- Can you imagine the # of calls and e-mails he gets. It's got to be a staggering amount
I understand this, maybe I should just talk to him on I.HUB:) JK
Posted by GreenDay on :
I've called him three times and got him all three times on his cell phone. The last time was around 7/31 that I tried.
Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Cell Phone: 678-255-7650
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by GreenDay: I've called him three times and got him all three times on his cell phone. The last time was around 7/31 that I tried.
Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Cell Phone: 678-255-7650
Thanks GreenDay!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: with this short borrowing what does it mean?
we won't know till the play is over...
first thing we have determined for fact is that short-selling of pennies is legal and is being done..
What?... I must have misunderstood this... "?" You "can" short a penny at $2.50 "PER SHARE" PLUS the cost of the share PLUS the broker fee...
But why would you make homemede gas for $25 a gallon?
Let us know if you talk to him.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Those above links in my post are the key to understanding WHERE we are right now! Friday we had the first day of no more naked shorts, and volume was way down because REAL shares were being traded, not FTD's (fail to deliever) -naked shorts.
This is why Rufus said the next week will start to get interesting. I agree.
Rufus said before that the "short term" share price should be between $30 - $60. Well, we had a dely with the reset and if we would've had that price reset right now "justifiably" the price would be at $54!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rufus isn't the one full of BS!
Deals take time, Rufus knew he had these deals on the table. They are now done deals so yet ANOTHER one of his sayings has come true. And saying a SHORT TERM share price of $30 - $60 will be met isn't something small, THAT WAS HUGE what Rufus said and HE DID IT PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everything now to me has come full circle with that report of Naked shorting, because the only thing to me that didn't make sense was the share price... "until" New2stocks posted that we are on the Naked short list and at the threshold (which means no more naked shorts can be written for you newbies). http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
We have a winner here folks!!!!!!!!
Everything makes sense now Posted by RichBy26 on :
definatly, I have a number of questions, I will post what ever responses I get. Thanks again Posted by RichBy26 on :
good post chart! Has anyone ever been apart of a stock that does a reverse merger and then re-opens at much higher levels? I have never been apart of a stock with such claims, so I am still a little confused with the whole process. I'm holding my 13K shares just to see though.
Posted by trade04 on :
lol ok i just saw the pictures rufus looks nothing like ie xpected
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: good post chart! Has anyone ever been apart of a stock that does a reverse merger and then re-opens at much higher levels? I have never been apart of a stock with such claims, so I am still a little confused with the whole process. I'm holding my 13K shares just to see though.
-Yeah that was a new one to me too, but we DD'd it here and there is a SEC rule which states something about if a company being in a bankrupt status mergers with another that an audit can be done and the price re-set.
I didn't do the DD, someone here who did can answer useing all the right wording... But it went something like that, so that too checked out.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Someone PLEASE let's SEE a pic!!!!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
well, hope it works out for us!! What was the reason for the merger??
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Someone PLEASE let's SEE a pic!!!!
fill in hot stock market for the ****
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Guess the private company of Rufus bought out FHAL to get their ticker symbol so they can go to the Nas... Otherwise there are periods of time and $$$ that have to be met, but if they merge with a company that already has a symbol, then they can get around the time requirements...
Posted by RichBy26 on :
thanks chart!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Someone PLEASE let's SEE a pic!!!!
I've spent the last 45 minutes doing 100's of google searches trying to find any picture of Rufus to compare the ones on hsm. I can't find one. With all the stuff this guy is involved, I can't believe there is nothing. Weird.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Guess the private company of Rufus bought out FHAL to get their ticker symbol so they can go to the Nas... Otherwise there are periods of time and $$$ that have to be met, but if they merge with a company that already has a symbol, then they can get around the time requirements...
NDOL merged with a private company, but the results were terrible. They stated they had an offer from a private company to buy NDOL for 2.20 a share. NDOL said they declined the offer of the buyout and decided to merge because it was of much greater benefit to itself and the shareholders. Once the financials were released for the merger, the price plunged. That is my only experience so far with these type of deals. I hope CSHDs claims happen like they say they will:)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yeah heard about all that NDOL stuff...
But there weren't "BILLION dollar deals that were signed there... were there?
he he ~~
Bottom line, buy in below $2 a share and you will make money. Rufus was all for $15, now it's raised to $54? If it comes out ANYWHERE near ANY of these levels we have all made out big time!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
agreed!! cheers to us:)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: agreed!! cheers to us:)
We've all looked for holes in this, -nothing solid.
And the price being low was naked shorting, which have to be covered!
Have TWO drinks tonight, I am!!! -hick Posted by RichBy26 on :
sounds good chart! have a great night
Posted by betting babe on :
pics courtesy of Valis: THANKS VALIS!
RUFUS. IN THE FLESH. well, a tshirt actually
gee, he doesnt look like he's using our money for personal reasons! LOL
~BB
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yep..hearing his voice...this is how I pictured him....LOL
Posted by SherriT on :
Thanks for all of the great DD gang! I am hoping Rufus will do me a favor and go ahead and reset this sucker before Ernesto comes ashore later next week....that would stink to get hit, be without power, AND lose out on the CSHD lottery.
Hope you are all having a great weekend! Man, $54 is a much nicer place to start than $15.... Posted by Chartwalker on :
Nice work BB!
Posted by trade04 on :
Mustve been sweet to attend that cook out, i bet that guy felt like a real G
(if you don't understand "g" you have no business learning what it means..)
[ August 27, 2006, 00:26: Message edited by: trade04 ]
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"G" Posted by T e x on :
ya, don't go there! we'll be overrun by myspace kidzzzzz
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: good post chart! Has anyone ever been apart of a stock that does a reverse merger and then re-opens at much higher levels? I have never been apart of a stock with such claims, so I am still a little confused with the whole process. I'm holding my 13K shares just to see though.
This is the shell theory...
Posted by a surfer on :
What is a Shell Stock? A Shell Stock is synonymous with an IPO. Most investors are familiar with the success of today's hot IPOs (Initial Public Offerings). But it is extremely rare for the average investor to purchase shares of an IPO at the offering price. ENTER SHELL STOCKS. Shell Stocks are an alternative way for a company to go public. With a technique called a "reverse merger," a Shell Stock becomes an instant IPO. The best news about Shell Stocks is that the average investor can purchase shares before the company goes public . . . sometimes at a fraction of what the post-merged company shares begin trading at! For more information, see What is a Shell Stock
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hiya folks!! The picture looks about right, i definately wasnt expecting flashy. Hopefully he has a much bigger BBQ here soon, get everyone down there.
Hey, if you look closely on the middle left side of the pic with him and the other guy I think you can see Ben drawing up another bond! LOL
Just playin' Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Hiya folks!! The picture looks about right, i definately wasnt expecting flashy. Hopefully he has a much bigger BBQ here soon, get everyone down there.
Hey, if you look closely on the middle left side of the pic with him and the other guy I think you can see Ben drawing up another bond! LOL
Just playin'
Thats funny
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: good post chart! Has anyone ever been apart of a stock that does a reverse merger and then re-opens at much higher levels? I have never been apart of a stock with such claims, so I am still a little confused with the whole process. I'm holding my 13K shares just to see though.
I signed up there a while ago, there latest one to watch is this one.
http:// stock charts.com/gallery/?exeg
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Posted by Hannibull on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yep..hearing his voice...this is how I pictured him....LOL
well there goes my 300 pound man theory lol
is it normal that filing a 10K takes this long?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus did say the "short term" amount of his stock should be $30-$60 BEFORE we had this ticker symbol delay, if it wasn't for the delay we would be right where he said...
Who here would've dumped at $15 and kicked themselves right in the butt for doing it?...
Which brings me to....
Rufus also said "long term" (year) that his stock should be selling for $100 - $200 a share!
Now Rufus has shown everyone that he can add a Billion dollars to the bottom line with ONE deal, do you think he's bluffing?...
No telling what he has up his sleeve ~
Well, I'm off to church... "Hey it can't hurt!!" lol ~
Peace ~
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Don't get your hopes up too high. We haven't seen the $15 yet, if we do......
Do your DD to understand whats going on and protect your capital!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Don't get your hopes up too high. We haven't seen the $15 yet, if we do......
Do your DD to understand whats going on and protect your capital!!!
This is true... Let's keep our heads, VERY good point Money!
But it sure is looking good, and I'm a little excited. AND... the higher we open, that $15 a share becomes more and more solid. Because if we opened that high, I can't see a sell off to $15.
JMO...
Money has a VERY good point here. Don't bet the farm, nothing is "100%."
But I'd give this a 99.7% rating! lol ~ Have a great Sunday all!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Hannibull:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yep..hearing his voice...this is how I pictured him....LOL
well there goes my 300 pound man theory lol
is it normal that filing a 10K takes this long?
that guy that went to the BBQ...said that Rufas claims that the 10K is done...BUT...he is holding it back... the 10K needs to be released at a time that it will benefit the most...IMO...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
What I don't understand is why Rufus didn't already release 10k to reset the price and THEN put out all the PR's about _ _ _ millions in bonds and cash to keep and sustain the price if not increase its value. Why give all the "good stuff" to increase the pps before reset?
Posted by trade04 on :
"that guy that went to the BBQ...said that Rufas claims that the 10K is done...BUT...he is holding it back... the 10K needs to be released at a time that it will benefit the most...IMO..."
yeah..i think we need to dig deeper into that statement because it differs from the message rph left on ihub...
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Rufus did say the "short term" amount of his stock should be $30-$60 BEFORE we had this ticker symbol delay, if it wasn't for the delay we would be right where he said...
Who here would've dumped at $15 and kicked themselves right in the butt for doing it?...
Which brings me to....
Rufus also said "long term" (year) that his stock should be selling for $100 - $200 a share!
Now Rufus has shown everyone that he can add a Billion dollars to the bottom line with ONE deal, do you think he's bluffing?...
No telling what he has up his sleeve ~
Well, I'm off to church... "Hey it can't hurt!!" lol ~
Peace ~
Yeah Right .
Posted by trade04 on :
well if the 15 bucks happens, i dont see why 30 cant happen, and if 30 happens i dont see why 54 cant happen...etc....i'll wait
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: What I don't understand is why Rufus didn't already release 10k to reset the price and THEN put out all the PR's about _ _ _ millions in bonds and cash to keep and sustain the price if not increase its value. Why give all the "good stuff" to increase the pps before reset?
Perhaps to give the shorts time to cover Before the higher PPS? It's all speculation...but Rufas said that he would give them a chance...and he has... the time is getting closer...this will either be revealed as a total crock...or it will be done and everyone will be picking their jaws up off the floor...but I believe the time is getting much closer...IMO...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: well if the 15 bucks happens, i dont see why 30 cant happen, and if 30 happens i dont see why 54 cant happen...etc....i'll wait
The big IF factor. CSHD will have traded for 20 days as of Sept. 6th, right? This is where they will get the average if they use option "C". Please correct me if I'm wrong. Then maybe the 10k is turned in approx Sept. 8th, 11th, or 12th then we would have our filing on time, by the 15th.
I'm only trying to keep options on the table that may be used. Don't "bet the "trailor"" like TxPrincess.....
I'm still holding for the "gold" too.
Posted by fryyguyy on :
This is a report from the BBQ from HSM:
Originally Posted by GaOnMyMind RECAP OF KPLATT'S AWESOME DD!!!! ALL CREDIT TO KPLATT
THESE ARE THE EVENTS AS REPORTED THROUGH THE DD OF KPLATT!
Quote: Originally Posted by BostonludeDid you ask him about the institutions supporting this value?
We didn't talk about that much other than what we have already heard. He said most won't get involved under $5 but that he knows of several waiting to get in. He also said (hope I heard this right), that a group wanted to work with him to get in now for several million shares....said he would have no part of it....they can get in when the price is reset.
I also asked him about the Schwab deal.....he felt that it was a few institutionals working through Schwab to get in early/cheap shares.
Quote: Originally Posted by GaOnMyMindAt $54, that makes the squeeze even more significant, right?What impact could this squeeze have and what time frame? Does a squeeze happen instantly or over the course of months or weeks?I'm increasing my small position as soon as my spare cash clears (my dad always said, "When my rich uncle gets out the poor house")
He said the squeeze is beginning right now......he is waiting on (help me out, can't remember what he called them)....counts from I assume MM's???....I know that is vague, sorry. He is expecting the numbers between Mon and Wed....then he said it would get very interesting.....he said later, make no mistake about it, the squeeze is beginning right now.
Quote: Originally Posted by FullblastThanks for the update Klplatt!Did you tell him that you were from HSM, and that he has a lot more supporters and a lot fewer bashers here? j/kAnd how was the BBQ?
Actually I did tell him I was from HSM and didn't appreciate "the other site!" I mentioned "Our-Stre**" and he waived him off like a fly off his horses arse! He is definitely after bigger fish.
I'm sorry....I have a picture but can't get it to download. I click on the insert image icon but it doesn't allow me to put the photo in. I suck at this stuff. He is a small man; by appearance not what I expected. But as soon as he introduced himself I recognized his voice from Paltalk. Don't invest on emotions, correct? I must say, after meeting him and spending 45 mins with him, I am even more confident than ever....even my somewhat doubting wife was impressed.
No, we didn't stay for the BBQ.....we already had plans this afternoon so couldn't stay.....he did invite us though.....and yes, I think it was because I smelled good!
KPLATTS FIRST REPORT: I just got back from Mr. Harris' cookout. I wish that Phil, Bodi, anyone else but me could have gone.....I am way too green to understand all, or even ask the right questions.
My wife and I arrived.....cookout had not started yet; probably only 8 or so people there. Mr. Harris met us at our truck and immediately introduced himself. He was very cordial. He spent about 45 minutes with us. Started by taking us through the stalls showing us some of the horses. We then went to his office and spent about 30 mins there. He is an extremely confident man; probably more than anyone I have met, yet he was not at all arrogant. We met his wife and kids and seems to be just as much family oriented as he has said. He told me about the bonds, how he got started, background on BBAN and FHAL....really all the DD that is posted throughout this forum. I asked if the 10K was ready and he said that it had been ready for some time, however, they are still cleaning up messes from the FHAL group (some of the same folks that had been involved with BBAN). He made no bones about taking legal action against them where appropriate and that through CSHD many will pay for how they took investors in the past.
I asked whether a 10k, 10k/a, s4 would trigger the reset. He said it will begin when he files the 10K and that he has to have it filed no later than 9/30. He said that $54 is the market price......I asked what the book price was and he did not answer. I asked if he was going to wait until 9/30 and he respectfully stated, "I can't answer that except to say soon." (I had to ask even though I knew his answer!). I pressed as we were leaving about 9/30...again he said I can't say but that it would probably be sooner than that.
I post a picture in a minute...assuming I can......he is a small man, gruff looking, but it is Saturday and he is having a cookout! I was happy to see him as a down-to-earth individual; very confident, very polite. My wife and I were both appreciative of his hospitality during our short visit.
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
I was just reading the PR about Rufus getting an award from the republicans and it made me think...I think that this will actually be $15/share someday because all of his republican buddies are in on it! They will all get rich and they will have money to fund campaigns forever. And I can buy a new car lol
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: I was just reading the PR about Rufus getting an award from the republicans and it made me think...I think that this will actually be $15/share someday because all of his republican buddies are in on it! They will all get rich and they will have money to fund campaigns forever. And I can buy a new car lol
yay!
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
Oh yeah...an 8k was filed today.
Here is a quote from it.
"The funding agreement brings a 450 Million Euro ($579,149,833 USD converted) denominated Note on Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC with a 6 1/8% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The MTN holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite A+ rating with a Moody's A1 rating). "
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: What I don't understand is why Rufus didn't already release 10k to reset the price and THEN put out all the PR's about _ _ _ millions in bonds and cash to keep and sustain the price if not increase its value. Why give all the "good stuff" to increase the pps before reset?
Another reason may be that the real value to the company will be the JVs. Ben had said in one of the interviews that they have alot of potential investments on the table that they are looking at. Now, if they are firming up additional JVs to fund it would make sense to have these lined up and ready to fund and PR when the 10K is released. Funding and releasing PRs on firms as good as AISS will provide the needed support for the reset price. JMHO
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: I was just reading the PR about Rufus getting an award from the republicans and it made me think...I think that this will actually be $15/share someday because all of his republican buddies are in on it! They will all get rich and they will have money to fund campaigns forever. And I can buy a new car lol
yay!
That PR was labeled as "fluff" I disagree... It STRONGLY shows his "social circle" which has EVERYTHING to do with whether or not this is liget, just another piece taht fits perfectly and what you would expect.
In business as well... "One hand washes the other and both are made more clean." $$$ ~ yeah!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: Oh yeah...an 8k was filed today.
Here is a quote from it.
"The funding agreement brings a 450 Million Euro ($579,149,833 USD converted) denominated Note on Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC with a 6 1/8% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The MTN holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite A+ rating with a Moody's A1 rating). "
This was the previous one right?... This isn't "another one" is it?... (I'm in the middle of something here, no time to DD).
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: I was just reading the PR about Rufus getting an award from the republicans and it made me think...I think that this will actually be $15/share someday because all of his republican buddies are in on it! They will all get rich and they will have money to fund campaigns forever. And I can buy a new car lol
yay!
That PR was labeled as "fluff" I disagree... It STRONGLY shows his "social circle" which has EVERYTHING to do with whether or not this is liget, just another piece taht fits perfectly and what you would expect.
In business as well... "One hand washes the other and both are made more clean." $$$ ~ yeah!
Thats what I was hinting at. People with money and people in politics all scratch each other's back and protect one another.
With Rufus donating his "services" to the republicans they will make sure nothing bad happens to him.
Either way all these 8K's with millions of dollars listed on them looks pretty sweet.
I hope SLJB rocks the house and then I can dump my money into CSHD and get 15x on that. Then Ill retire. hahaha
Posted by wallymac on :
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: Oh yeah...an 8k was filed today.
Here is a quote from it.
"The funding agreement brings a 450 Million Euro ($579,149,833 USD converted) denominated Note on Lehman Brothers Holdings PLC with a 6 1/8% coupon to CSHD's Asset Back Management facility. (The MTN holds an S&P, Fitch, and Composite A+ rating with a Moody's A1 rating). "
I find your lead of 8K filed today to be misleading. This 8K was filed on the 23rd. I understand your attempting to make a point but IMO this isn't the way to do it.
GLTA Wally
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: I was just reading the PR about Rufus getting an award from the republicans and it made me think...I think that this will actually be $15/share someday because all of his republican buddies are in on it! They will all get rich and they will have money to fund campaigns forever. And I can buy a new car lol
yay!
That PR was labeled as "fluff" I disagree... It STRONGLY shows his "social circle" which has EVERYTHING to do with whether or not this is liget, just another piece taht fits perfectly and what you would expect.
In business as well... "One hand washes the other and both are made more clean." $$$ ~ yeah!
I have to disagree. One can not make a decision of legitimacy on his "social circle". Besides, why are Republican's rich? Because they don't share!
Posted by portman on :
I am still not convinced we have closed this deal. What is in question is the "Closing Date" of the merger. It seems from the actions of all involved that Rufus and Co. are in charge and that the deal has closed.
Until we can nail the closing date you can't figure out the "Average Closing Price" as defined in the 8K/A.
From what I can tell it really looks the the closing is not complete until the 10K and S4 get filed. I could be completely wrong. But I really think tose 20 days used to calculate the ACP have not yet happened.
I would like to see $1.10 again and $0.50 again as well. Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I am still not convinced we have closed this deal. What is in question is the "Closing Date" of the merger. It seems from the actions of all involved that Rufus and Co. are in charge and that the deal has closed.
Until we can nail the closing date you can't figure out the "Average Closing Price" as defined in the 8K/A.
From what I can tell it really looks the the closing is not complete until the 10K and S4 get filed. I could be completely wrong. But I really think tose 20 days used to calculate the ACP have not yet happened.
I would like to see $1.10 again and $0.50 again as well.
many have asked rufus when the 10k would be released, and he never gave a date. smart, because im sure he knows the people asking just want to be in right before the 10k. by not disclosing it, more people will hold their shares. the people bashing rufus are just mad because he wont give them an exact date so they can do whatever it is they want to do...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: I am still not convinced we have closed this deal. What is in question is the "Closing Date" of the merger. It seems from the actions of all involved that Rufus and Co. are in charge and that the deal has closed.
Until we can nail the closing date you can't figure out the "Average Closing Price" as defined in the 8K/A.
From what I can tell it really looks the the closing is not complete until the 10K and S4 get filed. I could be completely wrong. But I really think tose 20 days used to calculate the ACP have not yet happened.
I would like to see $1.10 again and $0.50 again as well.
You are correct..the "actual closing date will be of the S4 filing...not even the 10K..the 10K that we are waiting on is actually the 10k for "FHAL" no the CSHD...yes the symbol has changed....BUT...we need the 10K from the "lack of assets" in the old FHAL...not the "new assets of CSHD... It all has to do with that "368 rule"...and the S4 will then "complete the "merger"...the way that I understand the process... And for all that are wondering...there is one "sentence" in the origianl filing about this merger that will "let Rufas and Company" off the hook... From the 8k 2.6
described above, the Company may terminate this Agreement by providing the Buyer written notice of termination no later than one (1) Business Day prior to the Closing Date.
[ August 27, 2006, 13:02: Message edited by: 10of13 ]
Posted by portman on :
Hence my continued thought that this is all premeditated to move the price into the required range prior to closing.
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: I have to disagree. One can not make a decision of legitimacy on his "social circle". Besides, why are Republican's rich? Because they don't share! [/QB]
Agreed to the point that legitimacy is not based on social circle.
But I will concede I am laughing at you for the latter half of your comments. You probably still think capitalism is a zero sum game too.
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
Bottom line is CSHD still has tons of money from these bonds.
Cash trumps all, fellows.
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
Income Statement on yahoo came out (Sat 9:04am). Can anyone explain these to me? I've seen tons of these on yahoo but I dont understand what they mean.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Income Statement on yahoo came out (Sat 9:04am). Can anyone explain these to me? I've seen tons of these on yahoo but I dont understand what they mean.
they are in the hole $768,000.00 as of March 31st 06?
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
Income Statement on yahoo came out (Sat 9:04am). Can anyone explain these to me? I've seen tons of these on yahoo but I dont understand what they mean.
they are in the hole $768,000.00 as of March 31st 06?
That sounds pretty good considering Dec 05 they were over $2 million in the red.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Why would Dan be giving up $420,000 in stock!!?? Why would Joe give up $1.46 million!!??
INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value*
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN, FBO Shareholder 30,000 Direct Planned Sale $30,6001
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN & VICKIE Shareholder 9,000 Direct Planned Sale $9,1801
15-Aug-06 PIAZZA, JOE 97,500 Direct Planned Sale $104,3251
Data provided by EDGAR Online
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Why would Dan be giving up $420,000 in stock!!?? Why would Joe give up $1.46 million!!??
INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value*
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN, FBO Shareholder 30,000 Direct Planned Sale $30,6001
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN & VICKIE Shareholder 9,000 Direct Planned Sale $9,1801
15-Aug-06 PIAZZA, JOE 97,500 Direct Planned Sale $104,3251
Data provided by EDGAR Online
I have questioned this myself...however...we don't know what their financial "state" is...maybe they needed the $ now...perhaps they saw a "better op somewhere else"? many traders have sold their own shares in this to try and make money else where, in the hopes of getting back in...
Perhaps there was some "rule" that these "insiders" needed to sell their shares BEFORE the merger? that "their" shares were only good under FHAL?
Perhaps they just didn't know what was going on and wanted to "bail" while they could...
Income Statement on yahoo came out (Sat 9:04am). Can anyone explain these to me? I've seen tons of these on yahoo but I dont understand what they mean.
they are in the hole $768,000.00 as of March 31st 06?
That sounds pretty good considering Dec 05 they were over $2 million in the red.
would you guys at least take the time to acknowledge that any business transactions before the date of july 8, have nothing to do with cshd.
With the way you people freak out at the slightest thing, It's amazing your farts dont scare the crap out of you.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sceptor??? IMO...this "indebted" amount would be a "good thing"...it is the fact that FHAL is in "bankrupt statis" that gives the "right" to stop trading and reset the new PPS with the "new assets" (rule 368)of CVSU...
No freaking out here...it looks better...
Posted by portman on :
Income Statement on yahoo came out (Sat 9:04am). Can anyone explain these to me? I've seen tons of these on yahoo but I dont understand what they mean.
they are in the hole $768,000.00 as of March 31st 06?
That sounds pretty good considering Dec 05 they were over $2 million in the red.
These are previously filed FHAL financials transferred over in reporting only.
Rufus also reiterated the 10K is done but some FHAL business still needs cleaned up...Not unusual...not unexpected.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Why would Dan be giving up $420,000 in stock!!?? Why would Joe give up $1.46 million!!??
INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value*
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN, FBO Shareholder 30,000 Direct Planned Sale $30,6001
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN & VICKIE Shareholder 9,000 Direct Planned Sale $9,1801
15-Aug-06 PIAZZA, JOE 97,500 Direct Planned Sale $104,3251
Data provided by EDGAR Online
I have questioned this myself...however...we don't know what their financial "state" is...maybe they needed the $ now...perhaps they saw a "better op somewhere else"? many traders have sold their own shares in this to try and make money else where, in the hopes of getting back in...
Perhaps there was some "rule" that these "insiders" needed to sell their shares BEFORE the merger? that "their" shares were only good under FHAL?
Perhaps they just didn't know what was going on and wanted to "bail" while they could...
Just don't know....
The Question is WHEN are they going to sell? ------"PLANNED sale"
--Are they getting their ducks in a row to sell some and take a nice profit after the re-set like we are? then this makes sense IMO.
Is there a way to find out "when"....?
Cause clearly if it is BEFORE the merger it would seem downright fishy, but after the merger, heck we are even cashing out some...
So how do you check, or,.. keep an eye on and monitor this?...
Never can be too careful ~
*That is something to watch!!! IMO
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Why would Dan be giving up $420,000 in stock!!?? Why would Joe give up $1.46 million!!??
INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value*
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN, FBO Shareholder 30,000 Direct Planned Sale $30,6001
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN & VICKIE Shareholder 9,000 Direct Planned Sale $9,1801
15-Aug-06 PIAZZA, JOE 97,500 Direct Planned Sale $104,3251
Data provided by EDGAR Online
Just because 144 was filed does not mean the sale has occurred, it is my understanding that they have up to 90 days..maybe they are preparing for the future?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Chart...not sure but I think they did sell...I'd have to check...not sure of the names...some that I had seen already did sell...if I remember correctly... moneyx3...do you have a link?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney: Why would Dan be giving up $420,000 in stock!!?? Why would Joe give up $1.46 million!!??
INSIDER & RULE 144 TRANSACTIONS REPORTED - LAST TWO YEARS Date Insider Shares Type Transaction Value*
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN, FBO Shareholder 30,000 Direct Planned Sale $30,6001
15-Aug-06 COFFEY, DAN & VICKIE Shareholder 9,000 Direct Planned Sale $9,1801
15-Aug-06 PIAZZA, JOE 97,500 Direct Planned Sale $104,3251
Data provided by EDGAR Online
I have questioned this myself...however...we don't know what their financial "state" is...maybe they needed the $ now...perhaps they saw a "better op somewhere else"? many traders have sold their own shares in this to try and make money else where, in the hopes of getting back in...
Perhaps there was some "rule" that these "insiders" needed to sell their shares BEFORE the merger? that "their" shares were only good under FHAL?
Perhaps they just didn't know what was going on and wanted to "bail" while they could...
Just don't know....
The Question is WHEN are they going to sell? ------"PLANNED sale"
--Are they getting their ducks in a row to sell some and take a nice profit after the re-set like we are? then this makes sense IMO.
Is there a way to find out "when"....?
Cause clearly if it is BEFORE the merger it would seem downright fishy, but after the merger, heck we are even cashing out some...
So how do you check, or,.. keep an eye on and monitor this?...
Never can be too careful ~
*That is something to watch!!! IMO
The merger is done. Is there something that you dont understand about it? Had you taken the time to read the 8-k you would have read that the merger agreement allows fhal insiders to trade their shares at will. All of their shares become unrestricted. They still had to file 144's to satisfy the sec, but they now can trade at will.
A majority of the furia/fhal insiders have stated they intend to take profits on the reset and go long with the rest of their shares.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Sceptor...merger is done? where is that filing?
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Sceptor??? IMO...this "indebted" amount would be a "good thing"...it is the fact that FHAL is in "bankrupt statis" that gives the "right" to stop trading and reset the new PPS with the "new assets" (rule 368)of CVSU...
No freaking out here...it looks better...
thats correct. irs rule 368 is what allows them to revalue the share price. Think of it this way, when you have billions to support and finance a company, millions are merely a nuisance.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
I'm still learning "legal jargon" so what does "Proposed Sale" indicate?
By the way the "Not Reported" is in regards to shares owned as of Trans. date.
INSIDER & FORM 144 HOLDERS*
Individual/Entity Most Recent Trans. Shares Owned as of Trans. Date
COFFEY, DAN & VICKIE Shareholder Proposed Sale 15-Aug-06 Not Reported
COFFEY, DAN, FBO Shareholder Proposed Sale 15-Aug-06 Not Reported
PIAZZA, JOE Proposed Sale 15-Aug-06 Not Reported
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
The merger is done. Is there something that you dont understand about it? Had you taken the time to read the 8-k you would have read that the merger agreement allows fhal insiders to trade their shares at will. All of their shares become unrestricted. They still had to file 144's to satisfy the sec, but they now can trade at will.
A majority of the furia/fhal insiders have stated they intend to take profits on the reset and go long with the rest of their shares. [/QB][/QUOTE]
Again...the merger is done? can you provide a link for this? I was not aware that "the merger was done"....so I apparently do not understand...
Link please?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Chart...not sure but I think they did sell...I'd have to check...not sure of the names...some that I had seen already did sell...if I remember correctly... moneyx3...do you have a link?
Rule 144: Selling Restricted and Control Securities
The rule is not the exclusive means for selling restricted or control securities, but provides a "safe harbor" exemption to sellers.
Before you may sell restricted securities in the marketplace, you must hold them for at least one year. Ordinary Brokerage Transactions. The sales must be handled in all respects as routine trading transactions, and brokers may not receive more than a normal commission.
At the time you place your order, you must file a notice with the SEC on Form 144 if the sale involves more than 500 shares or the aggregate dollar amount is greater than $10,000 in any three-month period. The sale must take place within three months of filing the Form and, if the securities have not been sold, you must file an amended notice.
Even if you have met the conditions of Rule 144, you can't sell your restricted securities to the public until you've gotten the legend removed from the certificate. Only a transfer agent can remove a restrictive legend. But the transfer agent won't remove the legend unless you've obtained the consent of the issuer—usually in the form of an opinion letter from the issuer's counsel—that the restricted legend can be removed. Unless this happens, the transfer agent doesn't have the authority to remove the legend and execute the trade in the marketplace. Posted by Chartwalker on :
Sceptor posted: Had you taken the time to read the 8-k you would have read that the merger agreement allows fhal insiders to trade their shares at will. All of their shares become unrestricted. They still had to file 144's to satisfy the sec, but they now can trade at will.
A majority of the furia/fhal insiders have stated they intend to take profits on the reset and go long with the rest of their shares.
So those are not "new" shares but old? So why sell them now anyway with a possible re-set at a much higher price? We all have CSHD shares now right?
Sorry, I just am trying to understand the legal BS in all this. Please shed some light on this. I'm trying to "fully" understand the process.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Sceptor posted: Had you taken the time to read the 8-k you would have read that the merger agreement allows fhal insiders to trade their shares at will. All of their shares become unrestricted. They still had to file 144's to satisfy the sec, but they now can trade at will.
A majority of the furia/fhal insiders have stated they intend to take profits on the reset and go long with the rest of their shares. --------------------------- So those are not "new" shares but old? So why sell them now anyway with a possible re-set at a much higher price? We all have CSHD shares now right?
Sorry, I just am trying to understand the legal BS in all this. Please shed some light on this. I'm trying to "fully" understand the process.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor:
The merger is done. Is there something that you dont understand about it? Had you taken the time to read the 8-k you would have read that the merger agreement allows fhal insiders to trade their shares at will. All of their shares become unrestricted. They still had to file 144's to satisfy the sec, but they now can trade at will.
A majority of the furia/fhal insiders have stated they intend to take profits on the reset and go long with the rest of their shares.
Again...the merger is done? can you provide a link for this? I was not aware that "the merger was done"....so I apparently do not understand...
Link please? [/QB][/QUOTE]
As much as I hate to be a "pest"...I am "bugged" by the statement that Sceptor made... The merger is done. Is there something that you dont understand about it? Had you taken the time to read the 8-k
Anyone? A link showing that the "merger" is done? I am NOT of the opinion that it is indeed done! Posted by glassman on :
So why sell them now anyway
The sale must take place within three months of filing the Form and, if the securities have not been sold, you must file an amended notice. ------------------------------------- The transfer agent won't remove the legend unless you've obtained the consent of the issuer Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: So why sell them now anyway
The sale must take place within three months of filing the Form and, if the securities have not been sold, you must file an amended notice. ------------------------------------- The transfer agent won't remove the legend unless you've obtained the consent of the issuer
That part I get... BUT why sell now when a possible $54 re-set is days away?!
Or is that what they are waiting for?..
Hence my question... "How can we know/monitor this?"
Posted by 10of13 on :
Not sure we can monitor this...they made the filing...they have 90 days....it they don't sell within the 90 days...they have to "refile"....."monitor"
Posted by glassman on :
you'll just have to wait and see if they ammend the filings...
Every director, officer or owner of more than ten percent of a class of equity securities registered under Section 12 of the '34 Act must file with the Commission a statement of ownership regarding such security. The initial filing is on Form 3 and changes are reported on Form 4. The Annual Statement of beneficial ownership of securities is on Form 5. The forms contain information on the reporting person's relationship to the company and on purchases and sales of such equity securities. Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
10, I also dont believe the merger is "complete", Without the filings it is still in process I believe.
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
Maybe daddy needed to buy a new car?
Posted by madmax526 on :
The Off-Shore Scam Under a rule known as "Regulation S," companies do not have to register stock they sell outside the United States to foreign or "off-shore" investors. In the typical off-shore scam, an unscrupulous microcap company sells unregistered Reg S stock at a deep discount to fraudsters posing as foreign investors. These fraudsters then sell the stock to U.S. investors at inflated prices, pocketing huge profits that they share with the microcap company insiders. The flood of unregistered stock into the U.S. eventually causes the price to plummet, leaving unsuspecting U.S. investors with enormous losses.
We always ought to keep in mind the sources of our information. http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/****Fest/1070.html Here's a good read on the author (basher) Roddy Boyd Not to say that shadey people can't ever shead light but they may be better at shading light. Ima
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
We always ought to keep in mind the sources of our information. http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/B l o g F e s t/1070.html Here's a good read on the author (basher) Roddy Boyd Not to say that shadey people can't ever shead light but they may be better at shading light. Ima
We always ought to keep in mind the sources of our information. http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/B l o g F e s t/1070.html Here's a good read on the author (basher) Roddy Boyd Not to say that shadey people can't ever shead light but they may be better at shading light. Ima
just correct to address
Yes and if you look further into the company that "owns" this particular "news source"...you may be surprised also...the "owner" of "this source" of madmax's post is at the bottom of his link...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Isn't there a rule that says a stock MUST trade for $1.75 or more for two weeks before going to the Nas??
"IF" so... Is that why Rufus is waiting to release the 10k and other filings?
No doubt Rufus knew of the Naked shorts keeping his price down so was he waiting for the threshold to be reached and then the squeeze so the stock price would go above that $1.75 so he could go right to the Nas?
Major stock exchanges like the Nasdaq are exclusive clubs - their reputations rest on the companies they trade. As such, the Nasdaq won't allow just any company to be traded on their exchanges. They only want the cream of the crop - companies with a solid history and top-notch management behind them.
The Nasdaq has three sets of listing requirements. The company must meet at least one of the three requirement sets, as well as the main rules for all companies.
Listing Requirements for All Companies Rule 4420 Each company must have a minimum of 1.1 million publicly-traded shares upon listing, excluding those held by officers, directors or any beneficial owners of more then 10% of the company. The minimum bid price of the stock upon listing must be at least $5. Each listing firm is also required to follow Nasdaq Corporate Governance rules 4350, 4351 and 4360. Companies must also have at least 400 shareholders. A shareholder is defined by Nasdaq as a holder of over 100 shares.
Requirement Rule 4420 (a) The company must have a minimum shareholder equity of $15 million. The operating income from either the last fiscal year, or two of the last three years, must total a minimum of $1 million. The company must have a minimum of three market makers that will provide liquidity to the trading of their stock. The market value of the publicly-held shares upon trading must be worth at least $8 million.
Requirement Rule 4420 (b) The company must have a minimum shareholder equity of $30 million. The market value of the shares traded must be at least $18 million upon listing. The company also has to have a minimum operating history of two years. It is also required to have three market makers. What can be seen here is that if a company did not earn enough to meet the operating income minimum, they need to have greater shareholder equity and a larger market value.
Requirement Rule 4420 (c) Under this requirement companies must have at least $75 million in total assets, total revenue, or listed securities. Listed securities as defined by the Nasdaq are securities listed on either a Nasdaq or another national exchange. The market value of the shares upon listing must be worth at least $20 million. They are also required to add an additional market maker for a total of four market makers.
A company has three ways to get listed on the Nasdaq depending on the underlying fundamentals of the company. If a company does not meet certain criteria such as the operating income minimum, it has to make it up with larger minimum amounts in another area like revenue. This helps to improve the quality of companies listed on the exchange.
It doesn't end there: after a company gets listed on the market, it must maintain certain standards to continue trading. Failure to meet the specifications set out by the stock exchange will result in its delisting. Falling below the minimum required share price, or market capitalization, is one of the major factors triggering a delisting. Again, the exact details of delisting depend on the exchange.
Posted by dollar13 on :
i went into this NASDAQ thing a while back and noboby want to hear it, so dont waste your time here.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Take spaces out... other link is screw-ie
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: So why sell them now anyway
The sale must take place within three months of filing the Form and, if the securities have not been sold, you must file an amended notice. ------------------------------------- The transfer agent won't remove the legend unless you've obtained the consent of the issuer
That part I get... BUT why sell now when a possible $54 re-set is days away?!
Or is that what they are waiting for?..
Hence my question... "How can we know/monitor this?"
yes the reset is what they are waiting for just like us. The reason they have to file 144's is because most own a considerable amount of shares from furia/fhal days. they are private investors, stockholders but with a vested interest in the company because personal relationships.
You can monitor thier selling by watching the float, if it rises then they are selling. Remember their shares were restricted until the merger released the restriction so they were never included in the float. So far the float has not budged, so they are not selling now.
They have all (the ones that have come forwards) stated they intend to take some profits because they have been waiting years, but most of their shares will go long on cshd. Even if they sell everything, it is their right to just as it is yours. My bet is thats why the institutionals are lined up, to catch their shares.
Posted by glassman on :
sceptor how do YOU monitor the float?
Posted by sceptor on :
By calling the Transfer Agent (T/A), daily.
Integrity Stock Transfer 2920 N. Green Valley Parkway Bldg 5 - Suite 527 Henderson, NV 89014 Telephone: (702) 317-7757 Toll Free: (877) 317-7757
Posted by dollar13 on :
INTERESTING
Posted by glassman on :
i usually don't call them every day...
and yes, they are the ones to call Only a transfer agent can remove a restrictive legend
i wonder how many people from here are calling the transfer agent?
Posted by trade04 on :
just making my mark on page 54!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Nice info Sceptor... Thx.
So we still have a green light, full steam ahead, good. Being a share holder I like to see things come together, but I won't "overlook" something that may be a flag.
If it's a good deal great, if it's not then let's bale, still looks good thank God ~
With Sceptor's info I feel ok with putting that to rest.
I feel good having glassman looking over things too, with 18,000+ posts you have to know a thing or two
I guess "Let the Squeeze begin!"
GLTA ~
Posted by glassman on :
well chart? i've seen alot of unusual posts on this one... from both the longs and the shorts...
i never liked that Rufus was on paltalk or posting at ihub... it's not illegal as i understand it, but it's not "normal" either....
i'm watching, and i'll definitely TRY to help clarify things that i can, like with how to DD and links to rules and such... i can't and won't try to argue whether this play will work or not...
but i will be watching till it does, or doesn't...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I hear ya glassman... This has more twist's then a well written TV Soap! Have to laugh, yeah not to much that's "normal" here... Hopefully that's good cause this isn't a normal play.
My God, $54 a frick'n share?... Even $15 kept me up nights to be honest! lol ~
I hope it does work out, but I won't turn a blind eye to a flag, your posts help sort things like that out, so thanks.
Alot of good people here. [Salute!]
See ya bright and early, g-night ~
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: By calling the Transfer Agent (T/A), daily.
Integrity Stock Transfer 2920 N. Green Valley Parkway Bldg 5 - Suite 527 Henderson, NV 89014 Telephone: (702) 317-7757 Toll Free: (877) 317-7757
what ranges has the TA reported...since you've been calling?
Posted by dog on :
Nice work tonite people.... very impressed and reassured for the moment.
Sorry I couldn't contribute.... had to pay attention to my lady for a change instead of the laptop.
Nite
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I hear ya dog.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Morning Peeps!!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: well chart? i've seen alot of unusual posts on this one... from both the longs and the shorts...
i never liked that Rufus was on paltalk or posting at ihub... it's not illegal as i understand it, but it's not "normal" either....
i'm watching, and i'll definitely TRY to help clarify things that i can, like with how to DD and links to rules and such... i can't and won't try to argue whether this play will work or not...
but i will be watching till it does, or doesn't...
Rufus stated they would be installing a forum on their site and plan to make the officers available to the share holders for any questions or concerns they might have.
I would say you may want to start considering his outreach to share holders as normal, because it doesnt look like it's going to stop.
[ August 28, 2006, 07:51: Message edited by: sceptor ]
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by T e x:
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: By calling the Transfer Agent (T/A), daily.
Integrity Stock Transfer 2920 N. Green Valley Parkway Bldg 5 - Suite 527 Henderson, NV 89014 Telephone: (702) 317-7757 Toll Free: (877) 317-7757
what ranges has the TA reported...since you've been calling?
the last call was on thurs by someone else. float = 27,900,020
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I for one I'm glad to see it... Nothing like going right to the well for the water...
Wonder when It'll be up and running???
(thx for the info Sceptor!)
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Morning everyone.
Posted by portman on :
Where are we at in relation to the toxic financing? I was trying to find it in the thread but I ran out of time this morning.
I "think" I read last night that the source is in question and we were taking both the source and the information with a grain of salt.
Is that true? Obviously this whacked the bee hive over on the "Springer" forum.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
This video should tell you everything you need to know about that toxic Financing, as well as shorting, naked shortening, and what and where we are in "The Big Picture."
A must watch video IMO!!!!
Posted by dog on :
Hey Chart... trying to catch up... anything important I need to check out that could sway my opinion on this stock?
Page number if necessary... Oh... Good Morning all
Posted by Chartwalker on :
dog... I think everything seems to be in order.
Sceptor posted: Rufus stated they would be installing a forum on their site and plan to make the officers available to the share holders for any questions or concerns they might have. ================================================ I'm waiting for that!
And the squeeze that started Friday with us reaching the SHO threshold.
Should be an interesting week!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
pg 52 has some pic's of Rufus... FYI
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Nothing has changed... great positon on a great stock.
Looking forward to a ten kay. Thought I would spell it out. Still could be a little ways off but I still got a vise grip on my slips.
Morning all!!! People are going to say all kinds of things as this gets closer to deadline. Think about the comments and the author's motivation. Research it like only we can. And seperate the speculation from the fact. See you all on payday. ...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: dog... I think everything seems to be in order.
Sceptor posted: Rufus stated they would be installing a forum on their site and plan to make the officers available to the share holders for any questions or concerns they might have. ================================================ I'm waiting for that!
And the squeeze that started Friday with us reaching the SHO threshold.
Should be an interesting week!
RPH should contact me with regards to that site. I could have it up in a matter of hours. With security, moderation the works... Oh but it might hurt the share price... I'm not cheap. Posted by new2stocks on :
Good morning all!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey New2 ~
Posted by portman on :
Sounds like we are primed...We will see what a potential 10K delay does coupled with the squeeze.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'll be looking to buy $200 more sometime today, when I do I'll let you know how fast it filled ~
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Was posted on Scottrade this morning on my Alerts settings.::::::::::::::
PQL Research: PQL ****: A Leap of Faith (OTC: CSHD) NEW JERSEY, Aug 28, 2006 (M2 PRESSWIRE via COMTEX) -- PQL Research, a smallcap, microcap, and nanocap stock research group, today announced that its most recent **** entry, "A Leap of Faith", featured Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp (OTC: CSHD). The full **** entry is available through the 'PQL ****' section of the http://www.pqlresearch.com website. The **** is RSS-capable and updated regularly. The **** does not intend to issue any positive or adverse opinion on the operations or performance of Conversion Solutions. A **** is an expression of opinion, and as such, is not a recommendation or solicitation to buy or sell any security. PQL Research and its editors do not own any shares of Conversion Solutions, and have not been compensated by any party to compose the **** or this release. About Conversion Solutions Holdings Corp: CSHD is a diversified holdings corporation, which was formed to originate, fund and source funding for asset-based transactions in the private market. CSHD's main service will be to acquire, fund and provide insurance to target companies in the currently underserved $15,000,000 to $100,000,000 asset finance market. Our funding will enable our businesses to compete more effectively, improve operations and increase value. CSHD is headquartered in Kennesaw, Georgia, a suburb of Atlanta. For more information, please visit us at http://www.cvsu.us. On Friday, CSHD closed at $.86, down .02 (2.3%), on 639,227 shares traded. Approximately $535,000 traded through the stock across 349 trades. CONTACT: Tim Fostik, PQL Research e-mail: info*pqlresearch.com M2 Communications Ltd disclaims all liability for information provided within M2 PressWIRE. Data supplied by named party/parties. Further information on M2 PressWIRE can be obtained at http://www.presswire.net on the world wide web. Inquiries to info*m2.com. (C)1994-2006 M2 COMMUNICATIONS LTD -0-
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Posted by 10of13 on :
I'm lookin' to possibly do the same thing Chart...but I'm not sure that it will be today...I am thinking very little price movement...for the week...if not perhaps several dips...I don't think the "squeeze" is on quite yet...IMO...the MM's will attempt several "shakes"
GLTA...have a great week...
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Substitute "b l o g" for ****
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I'm lookin' to possibly do the same thing Chart...but I'm not sure that it will be today...I am thinking very little price movement...for the week...if not perhaps several dips...I don't think the "squeeze" is on quite yet...IMO...the MM's will attempt several "shakes"
GLTA...have a great week...
Agreed. The start of the squeeze should be low vol (which we had on Friday) and should continue, hoping for a dip, but really don't expect much of one... Time will tell Posted by Chartwalker on :
our first little shake, alright ~ let's see how far they can push it down, we are right at a support there so might be it ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
according to the Rufus...from the guy that went to the cook out and took the pics...he is waiting for some sort of count to come in(he said between today and wednesday)...THEN he said things will start to pic up...
i can only assume he is waiting for numbers from the T/A...what he is going to do with them is beyond me...
Posted by 10of13 on :
I am thinkin' and "hopin' it will touch low 70's sometime...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
those of us who are buying can only hope!
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
Follows is the entry in the ****......haven't read it throughly yet.wanted to get it out here for everyone first.....
"A Leap of Faith In recent memory, I can’t remember a stock with such a speculative frenzy as Conversion Solutions Holding (OTCBB: CSHD). While not nearly as organized or numerous as the venerable shareholders of CMKM Diamonds (formerly OTC: CMKX), Conversion Solutions has nevertheless created the beginnings of an investment that some might describe as a leap of faith.
If you haven’t read up on this company, the story is certainly interesting. Originally doing business as FrontHaul Group (formerly OTCBB: FHAL), the company recently completed a merger with Conversion Solutions (formerly OTC: CVSU) to create the current Conversion Solutions Holding. Prior to the merger, FrontHaul was trading under $.10.
KENNESAW, Ga., July 12 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ — Conversion Solutions, Inc. , would like to announce the signing of a Merger Agreement and Plan of Merger with The FrontHaul Group, Inc. a Delaware Corporation.
The surviving entity will be Conversion Solutions, Inc.; FHAL day-to-day operation will cease immediately, and the company will operate as CVSU to include the Director and Officers as follows; Click here to find out more!
Surviving Board of Directors Rufus Paul Harris Chairman Ben Stanley Director Jerry Bivens Director John Walsh Director Surviving Officers Rufus Paul Harris Chief Executive Officer Ben Stanley Chief Operating Officer Darryl Horton Chief Financial Officer Jerry Bivens Corporate Secretary Sabra Dabbs Executive Vice President Investments John Walsh Executive Vice President Administrations
The Merger facilitates $803,149,146 in booked assets and shareholder equity. Initial estimates places the company combined financial structure and per share book value at $7.21.
Under the agreement CVSU will consume all obligations of FHAL as filed in the last FHAL 10Q.
“This Merger will greatly benefit the shareholders of FHAL and CVSU, and takes the corporation one step closer toward our long-term goals,” stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.
Attention CVSU Shareholders, Note Holders and Option Holders; Please see Shareholder update on our website, www.cvsu.us. Each individual will be required to complete the Form of Affiliate to achieve share exchange under the Merger Agreement.
“I strongly recommend that all shareholders calls for Hard copy certificates, due to FHAL near future name and symbol change,” stated CEO Rufus Paul Harris.
After a the transaction was announced (albeit with very confusing terms), the stock moved to nearly $1.60 over the next eight trading days. Fueling the move in the stock was the declaration by CVSU that the combined company would have assets per share of well over $7.00, consisting primarily of a foreign bond and something called a ‘UCC Security Note’. Since then, the stock has been the most heavily traveled on the Investor’s Hub boards nearly every trading day.
Strangely, the incoming CVSU CEO has been very vocal with shareholders, doing numerous chat-room interviews and apparently advising shareholders to buy the stock. Indeed, on the Investor’s Hub board the moderator has outlined the ‘three options’ that the CEO believes will result in a ‘price reset’ of CSHD’s common stock to $15 per share.
Naturally, the promises of ‘resetting’ a $1 stock into a $15 stock (providing a short-term 1500% gain to shareholders) met great skepticism in the market, with our-street.com, **********.com, and most recently the New York Post, all releasing less than favorable reviews of the company.
I will not rehash or endorse any of the material on those sites, and because I’ve never held the stock (long or short), I really have no interest in this story besides one of curiousity. However, there is one thing that strikes me as bizarre that perhaps someone out there could clarify for me.
CVSU was its own pinksheet for nearly a year and a half before the transaction with FrontHaul. The following listing on the OTCBB daily list shows when CVSU was granted its ticker.
16:45 CVSU Conversion Solutions Inc Common Stock 03/16/2005
I know firsthand how long it takes to get a newly-registered pinksheet trading. PQL Research consults with a company in such a situation, whereby the company received a ticker 10/2005 and has only recently managed to make a few unsolicited trades almost a year later with no public market and no level2 in the stock. It was only a few weeks ago that Schwab would even accept my shares for deposit. At present, that company is awaiting NASD approval of its form 15c211 and subsequent comment period so it can trade on an unsolicited basis (see our prior **** ‘Deconstructing Pinks’ on what an unsolicited stock is). Looking at CVSU stock the day the merger was announced, it seemed identical; a stock with little or no trading history, no level2, and consequently no public market for the stock.
DL DATE SYMBOL COMPANY NAME EFFECTIVE DATE/COMMENTS 07/27/2006 CVSU Conversion Solutions Inc Common Stock 07/28/2006 Inactive Security ** 07/28/2006 CVSU Conversion Solutions Inc Common Stock 07/28/2006 Acquired by FrontHaul Group Inc (1 sh FHAL)
Here’s where I’m stuck. If CVSU had all these tremendous assets, why didn’t they complete what they started with their own ticker? Do not forget that they had a validly-registered CVSU.PK ticker that they could have taken the time to properly file for unsolicited trading on the pinksheets at the very least. For example, if a friend has a home in their name, but decides to crash at your place each and every night, can’t you infer there is something very wrong with their house? By merging with FHAL, the company effectively gave away control of its own destiny to shareholders of FHAL, in my opinion.
In many press releases that CVSU issued following its March 2005 creation (to what audience, I’m not certain), it would appear that CVSU attempted to build its own road to becoming actively traded:
11/3/05 Conversion Solutions updates 15c2-11 broker information sheet.
2/24/06 Conversion Solutions Board approves SB-2. “The Audited financials gives the Corporation a Book value of $6.22 per share issued. This is what we have been working for, and the excitement now begins. The company has 43,478,260 shares issued and $270,351,140 in shareholder equity and plans to release 9 millions shares to the market.” stated Rufus Paul Harris, CEO
These would be logical steps for CVSU to control its own destiny. If the 15c211 documents were filed and ultimately approved, the company could deposit shares with a broker and instruct them to offer the shares publicly for $6 each if they wanted. Who knows how many shares they might be able to sell there, but lacking any other CVSU shareholders that could offer the stock cheaper, the company could initially dictate where the stock would trade. The other benefit to this is that the company would control nearly all the voting rights in the stock.
I did search the SEC site to see if I could find the CVSU 10SB, but only found one paper filing shortly after the ticker was approved. Interestingly, the corporate address in this filing is only about 15 minutes away from me.
What happened to CVSU taking the long but ultimately more rewarding route of building its own ticker from scratch? Why would a company that previously controlled 100% of its interests and assets decide to suddenly share them with an army of FHAL shareholders? No doubt they benefitted from the fully-reporting status and shareholder base of FHAL, but is there a reason why, with over $270M in claimed assets, they couldnt have created their own shareholder base? Is there a reason why they couldnt have applied and traded on the bulletin board also?
If they absolutely changed course and wanted to get on the bulletin board right away, why not try to merge with a bulletin board shell that trades for a few bucks? Why something near $.10 where you’d have these insane price swings in the stock?
Lots of questions, not a lot of answers. Still, there are many firm believers in CSHD, which traded over $500,000 last Friday. At its highs, the stock moved over $20,000,000 on several trading days - which is a numbing amount of cash moving through a highly speculative bulletin board stock. There’s no doubt that for all the negative publicity the company has recently seen, there doesn’t appear to be a shortage of investors and traders willing to buy the stock.
Time will tell the ultimate fate of CSHD, but one thing is for certain, the story isn’t likely to end anytime soon.
[Disclosure: I have never owned any shares, long or short, in CSHD, FHAL, or CVSU. I have not been compensated by any party to post my opinions in this ****. I am not affiliated with any of the third-party links in this ****, and make no endorsement to the accuracy or quality of their reporting or information. This is not a solicitation to buy or sell CSHD or any other security.]
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Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Interesting post Bucky... reading the story on the B L O G it seems to me that the author is nothing more than a glorified message board poster. The entire center of his article is built around a question he could have had answered by Rufas himself. Usually, journalism is best served by asking questions of the subject matter and reporting back facts. Not ignoring your source and reporting your questions.
Oh well it's just a **** post...
Thanks, TB
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah that was pretty pointless...
it just sounds like someone from ihub that didn't actually want to report the entire situation...
seeing people ask questions that HAVE been answered...like they are stating some new groundbreaking revelation is just rediculous...
i agree with taxback04...a glorified BB poster...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Thx Bucky, not an outright bash... Hmmmm. Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I am thinkin' and "hopin' it will touch low 70's sometime...
Yup, me too, I sold X .86 and will pick them up at a better discount.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well we have our low volume..... Should be testing that support again soon, may not get to that next level... -at least today ~
Darn, and with a PR that could say what the "Justifiable" PPS is now.... -does one wait a couple days?...
Ah, the "art" of the trade Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Oh good you posted it... a direct link to the post would have sufficed. This guy is no where near as well informed as half this board. Not to mention he really is just slamming investors "leap of faith" like we are some back woods religious right wing nut jobs who believe in being "Saved".
Fact is most investors are researched methodical and most are in this stock playing on winnings from the climb from $0.10 to $1.60.
You know if the out standing is 97MM and the average investor has 1000 or more shares. (Many here have much more) then you are talking a maximum share holder base of 97000 investors. The real number is probably close 6 thousand investors. In anycase it is hardly enough to call this a migration of any sorts and too many to believe we are all related from the appilacians in West Virginia, or suffering from some mass delusion inspired by Jerry Fallwell reruns.
It is just an uninformed person who likes to hear themselves talk. Like most b l o g s.
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good morning from San Diego ... I really pay most attention to those who have a stake in this stock, so to speak. They're the ones to consider all new information and weigh it against what's been established. This is where I value Allstocks so much and all who contribute to it!
As to those who do not own the stock, I will consider their info as more superficial.
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL..looks like "we" are going to have "oodles" of shares traded today...and end up right where we were??!!!
Posted by dog on :
exactly AZ... tired of fools trying to tell me about this stock having never owned a share... their DD is cursory at best
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: I wonder if CVSU will ever fix the typo on their site. It says BDA after CSHD and im quite sure its meant to be DBA (Doing business as). It was correct back when it said CVSU but they changed it with the new symbol.
Yes, thats how bored ive become of CSHD.
Looks like someone there read your post....it now says "CSHD BSA as Conversion Solutions, Inc."........What I do not understand is why CSHD's website administrator updates only a couple of titles on the website to CSHD, yet they have not changed the other CSHC references on the home page to the CSHD symbol..... Sure, they may have a few of balls in the air at the moment, but the site's administrator is not being very complete and accurate.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yeah... It does look like the beginning of the squeeze, low volume and little to no price movement. Going to be a hard buy in this time around, -jerky
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Looks like someone there read your post....it now says "CSHD BSA as Conversion Solutions, Inc."........What I do not understand is why CSHD's website administrator updates only a couple of titles on the website to CSHD, yet they have not changed the other CSHC references on the home page to the CSHD symbol..... Sure, they may have a few of balls in the air at the moment, but the site's administrator is not being very complete and accurate.
i thought that initially as well...but in reality the name of the company still is Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation...it's not really misleading to just use that acronym...i'm sure it was intentional...as the site does go down for maintenance alot...
Posted by BuckyBarnes on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Looks like someone there read your post....it now says "CSHD BSA as Conversion Solutions, Inc."........What I do not understand is why CSHD's website administrator updates only a couple of titles on the website to CSHD, yet they have not changed the other CSHC references on the home page to the CSHD symbol..... Sure, they may have a few of balls in the air at the moment, but the site's administrator is not being very complete and accurate.
i thought that initially as well...but in reality the name of the company still is Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation...it's not really misleading to just use that acronym...i'm sure it was intentional...as the site does go down for maintenance alot...
Good point about the acronym...TY
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Just bought 350 shares at .86 (ask)
and it filled instantly
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: exactly AZ... tired of fools trying to tell me about this stock having never owned a share... their DD is cursory at best
Are you kidding me!? Ever hear of Tex whom provides DD without being in a stock to help people. And he's not the only one.....
Don't be a know it all..
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Looks like someone there read your post....it now says "CSHD BSA as Conversion Solutions, Inc."........What I do not understand is why CSHD's website administrator updates only a couple of titles on the website to CSHD, yet they have not changed the other CSHC references on the home page to the CSHD symbol..... Sure, they may have a few of balls in the air at the moment, but the site's administrator is not being very complete and accurate.
i thought that initially as well...but in reality the name of the company still is Conversion Solutions Holding Corporation...it's not really misleading to just use that acronym...i'm sure it was intentional...as the site does go down for maintenance alot...
Do you know it is maintenance? Some web servers are just flaky, and some hosting companies are just plain bad when it comes to keeping a web site up and running.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I think this will time itself out and break down about lunch time again, that may be the lowest shake of the day. Volume low, people holding and with no "Pretend" (naked shorts) to sell down I don't know if we'll see that next level of low 70's support... JMO ~
holding tough second day now....
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by BuckyBarnes:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
Do you know it is maintenance? Some web servers are just flaky, and some hosting companies are just plain bad when it comes to keeping a web site up and running.
good point...lol...i just kinda assume everyone has everything in order...although that is probably a more realistic outlook...
Posted by 10of13 on :
In some ways Dog..i gotta disagree with your statement...
tired of fools trying to tell me about this stock having never owned a share... their DD is cursory at best
Many people will do extensive DD BEFORE grabbin' a stock...and may never grab the stock based on the DD...I disagree with this guy's B L O G because he makes several "incorrect statements"...but sometimes listening to "others" that are outside of the play...can be an eye opener to the blind...as long as it is based on DD not someone's opinion...it also helps those that are in to perhaps DD a l;ittle more...to "prove" the other poster "wrong"...or maybe to find that the other guy is "right"...
This B L O G ...only based on half hearted DD and empty opinions...IMO...
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by dog: exactly AZ... tired of fools trying to tell me about this stock having never owned a share... their DD is cursory at best
Are you kidding me!? Ever hear of Tex whom provides DD without being in a stock to help people. And he's not the only one.....
Don't be a know it all..
Don't get me wrong... I'll listen to other DD that follows an intelligent line of reasoning... especially when they have a history like Tex.
But when they start and end with very shallow accusations without following the long history of threads and DD done.. it comes across as bashing.. and I guess I'm just a little tired.
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Understandable dog, I just didn't want folks getting the wrong idea through your statement.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
A bit hard to move the massive funds over seas if there is absolutly no volume isn't it? LOL Toxic Financing... I feel like one of those guys on that cable show "Myth Busters".
Common throw us another bash... umm I mean bone.
Posted by thecon00 on :
I think it is obvious at this point that the MM are not going to get what they want pre-merger, and RPH might not get what he want pre-merger either.
What new attempt (bad news) by the MM at this point could scare people out of there shares? I think we have already survived the best tricks they have and poorly written articles in NY papers aren’t cutting it.
What new billion dollar bond could move us up, maybe a Gov. Contract? I think we are at a crossroads with this stock.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
not a crossroads...more like train tracks...and we're just waiting to see who gets hit...
Posted by trade04 on :
i hope all you pesimists sell your shares so the little guys holding can make some big bucks....
Posted by 10of13 on :
Or so the little guys can grab more...LOL
Posted by Sandusky on :
HaHa...Van Morrison being replaced by Cash..."I hear a train a comin'...comin' round the bend"
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: not a crossroads...more like train tracks...and we're just waiting to see who gets hit...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Just a waiting game IMO guys... Looks what's happening today, low volume, no sell offs, and it's getting to be that you either pay the ask price or you don't get your order filled.
Welcome to the "SHO Treshold"
Still hope she dips in about an hour, have to get filled yet ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Here is the new myth: {*whispers*}
MYTH: The Low Volume Hold Scheme: I heard through the grape vine that thousands of investors had gotten together to buy up shares of CSHD. They are planning on holding them keeping the volume real low until the company proves it’s tremendous value through the form of a 10K. And then those same investors are going to sell a bit of that stock off and buy new toys for themselves. The really evil part is that those investors are then going to look in their pocket and realize they are one if the few private investors ever to find an initial investment in a strong bond funded, government backed, holdings corp. That is in the process of building high profile new-age defense sub contractors. And that is when they really get rich.
AaaaRrrrrgggh! Oh the humanity will these rumors ever stop! Oh wait, I started this one.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
ssshhhhhhhhh...yoooouuuuuuuuuuu weeeeeeeeeeeeren't suppppppppppposed to teeeeeeeeeeeeeeell...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"kids"
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Setting up nice for that lunch time dip Posted by ruthie on :
Sure would be nice though if it did not dip much at lunch today and instead went the other way.I would like to see the EOD at least in the high 90's today. Maybe too optimistic...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Ruth. (Wish Rat was here) I'm not expecting a big dip, I'd be happy with filling at .82!
Things ""should"" start to cycle upward now (Higher lows, higher highs, -for the most part) because of the SHO Threshold, -Just grabbing the kids collage fund while it's this low! lol ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
technically since all has changed as far as naked shorting goes...wouldn't it take people selling at the bid for this to dip?
i mean before i would have agreed simply because of the history...but now how valid are those trends?
Posted by ruthie on :
Don't blame you there Chart. My money is tied up with other stocks right now or I would be buying up more myself....
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
that and to many people are waiting to buy more a little cheaper...i just can't see any dip lasting more than a few trades before what ever was for sale is bought up...and really i suppose that could take us into a run...
Posted by ruthie on :
I am ready for a good RUN..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: technically since all has changed as far as naked shorting goes...wouldn't it take people selling at the bid for this to dip?
i mean before i would have agreed simply because of the history...but now how valid are those trends?
Correct! But remember when you first started out? Remember selling off into dips and all the other mistakes newbies make? I'm hoping for something like that to happen after another headfake upward.
We'll see, it's pretty tight!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
All stretched out and limbered up over here for a run... On your mark... get set... Where is RPH with that "starter gun" PR. Posted by Chartwalker on :
wow... that's was it for the head fake?... Might just get my .82
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: wow... that's was it for the head fake?... Might just get my .82
How about 0.8450? Posted by Chartwalker on :
LMAO ~~
I'm liking it too if it doesn't bottom out hard, show of strength!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
that 223 order was mine... looks to be going up!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I'm not showing my 223 shares at .85 ?? Anyone see it?
Posted by mnvestor on :
PR around the corner??
Posted by Chartwalker on :
wow, glad I did! ha ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
233? Hmmm I think that is MM code for "911" looks to be some panic. Ha! LOL
I crack myself up sometimes. 233 same as 911... classic!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Screw it... returning to my previous position at .841... this thing is going nowhere for the moment.
Oddly enough... NITE is my MM, but then NITE ran the price up to .89 in an instant... just to get away from my bid! IMHO
Check the L2's
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
jeese that chart makes this thing look prime for some sort of berakout...
oh...and look at that...a bunch of people buy...it goes up...haha...and it stays up!!! imagine that!!! buying actually having a POSITIVE influence...
Posted by dog on :
They only want sellers at this point cuz we take away from shares they might accumulate.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Higher highs and higher lows (classic uptrend) seems to be happening, 2 days ago (Friday) we hit .79 as a low then .80's then .82's.
Highs likewise where .82 the .87 and now .89 -.90.
Holy chit ~ This may be the slow beginning of that squeeze!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I put in a buy for 350 shares at .88 8 minutes ago. still waiting...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
100 of them just went through
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
wait none of them were mine
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I just g0t 2k filled at .875. Now I'm just 3k shy of were I was before I tried to go to actc and make some money to buy more shares here. I hosed myself
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by MoneyMoneyMoney:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I am thinkin' and "hopin' it will touch low 70's sometime...
Yup, me too, I sold X .86 and will pick them up at a better discount.
LOL oopsie
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Running away from your bid... HA ha ha LOL that is good. Chase him chase him up to 2.50 then cancel your order.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yeah...looks like I won't get my fill today...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Well, believe it or not I picked up a 1k shares X .89 earlier on the run up. hehe. Oh well, 800 of those were "FREE".
I still want to accumulate a couple more thousand before the reset, if it occurs.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
so you guys really expect this to have a pretty big retrace?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I just g0t 2k filled at .875. Now I'm just 3k shy of were I was before I tried to go to actc and make some money to buy more shares here. I hosed myself
Yeah I see you buy on the L2's, looks like a sell but wish I could get my order through still no luck on my 350 shares. What broker do you use?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: so you guys really expect this to have a pretty big retrace?
IMO...it's hard to tell...I really thought that the MM's would shake it this week...but if there is the sho list...they might not be able to "fake" anything...and with no really big news...investors might get jumpy...so...I would like for it to dip...so I can buy more...but I would LOVE for it to go the other way!
I have a buy order in...and if it fills this week or next...fantastic...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I use ameritrade
Posted by Chartwalker on :
For you guys (and 10 trying to buy in, here is a VERY good free site LOADED with all the info you need, sup/res level, fibs, etc. Even FREE Level 2's but not on penny's, -sorry.
shoot... Key in CSHD top left, this is set for the "cubes" (QQQQ).
Posted by dog on :
This is hilarious... I'll sit here all day...they won't let it come down. Should I chase it up? I can do it til .9 without losing money... I'm just interested to see what it does.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Looks like back to .90 land by EOD... MO
Posted by dog on :
Watch... I'll bid .871...
Posted by dog on :
Now I drop .861... watch NITE and ABLE
Posted by dog on :
No change... Howzabout .881.. hehe
Posted by dog on :
As in Monty Python... "run away, run away!!!!"
Posted by dog on :
Bid and Ask the same
Posted by 10of13 on :
.89 on both b/a...what's it gonna do?
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL...I have had a very small buy in at .90 for about 10 mins...no fill...takin' it back...there really doesn't seem to be any for sale...anyone get filled?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
just got my 350 filled at .88 LOL this is a fun game!
Posted by glassman on :
they didn't post it on my feed...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: just got my 350 filled at .88 LOL this is a fun game!
LOL..they'll fill 350 at .88? But not 1k at .9? Hmmm...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: they didn't post it on my feed...
I had called etrade a few months ago...and "they" told me that some of these are "posted" together...??? which I think is a crock...
Posted by dog on :
got 1600 filled at .881
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hey, we gettin a run here? I see the ask is finally changing!! It must be all of your 300 share buys!! LOL
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Now I just turned around and put a GTC to flip my 350 shares at $3 HAHA Play my game MM's. You're in our neighborhood now and Rufus runs this block! LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: they didn't post it on my feed...
Scottrade didn't have mine either today...
Symbol Action Qty Acct Type Price Total CSHD BOUGHT 223 MARGIN $0.85 $197.50
And right there is my buy ~
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: just got my 350 filled at .88 LOL this is a fun game!
LOL..they'll fill 350 at .88? But not 1k at .9? Hmmm...
They prolly couldn't afford 1K LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: got 1600 filled at .881
Curious...what broker you used?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
0.93??? well well well... looks like the well is dry. Posted by leanlow06 on :
got another 900 at .92, took about 5 min.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: 0.93??? well well well... looks like the well is dry.
Yeah, on this low of volume and we're on the SHO list,... What else can it be?!!!
Yeah for us!
EOD .95 or better?.... Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I say better... Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Drive the bus Rufie, I'm gonna take a nap!" LOL ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey...didn't some poster over the weekend from ihub say they were selling 50k shares at 12 or something?
I ask because that is just about the time that it started up...
Posted by bloodykitten on :
Accually it started like 3 mins AFTER I sold 6300 shares at .85
That is the relelationship CSHD and I have.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by bloodykitten: Accually it started like 3 mins AFTER I sold 6300 shares at .85
That is the relelationship CSHD and I have.
Well..I am sure that many here are glad you gave them your shares...
But I was wondering about the loud mouth on IHUB...that acted like he "knew" so much...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I just put today's teaser out there... 300 shares for sale and the rock bottom price of two dallars and forty nine cents. Here little MM come and get it! Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey...didn't some poster over the weekend from ihub say they were selling 50k shares at 12 or something?
I ask because that is just about the time that it started up...
That's right... Think that would be the best PUBLIC display of stupidity I've seen yet!
Would you sell right now?!!! Wonder what time zone he was in...?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
There is no volume that size in the charts for that time...
Posted by djg7 on :
There were four 747 trades. Maybe an MM signal or they're taking a plane ride out of town.
Posted by leanlow06 on :
quote:Originally posted by djg7: There were four 747 trades. Maybe an MM signal or they're taking a plane ride out of town.
lol
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Up we go again?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by bloodykitten: Accually it started like 3 mins AFTER I sold 6300 shares at .85
That is the relelationship CSHD and I have.
Well..I am sure that many here are glad you gave them your shares...
But I was wondering about the loud mouth on IHUB...that acted like he "knew" so much...
LMAO Glad to see that Your tryin' to keep a non agressive, peasfull dialog goin, in my absence,10!!!!
Keep up the good work!!!!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
My guess is that this 747 is gonna fly!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Woah getting scarry just lowered the teaser to $1.09... Nice juicy morsal right out of reach.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Woah getting scarry just lowered the teaser to $1.09... Nice juicy morsal right out of reach.
LMAO... what the... ? ha ha ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey rat ~
You look good in GREEN! ha ~
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Lowered the teaser down to 0.98... Hmmmm. Any takers? Sorry, moved it back to $2.49 before you could bite. HA!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
dangerous business dangling the carrot like that tax lol.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey maumee...the least I can do for you...LOL
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
Beginning of the short squeeze?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
puuuuussssshhhh. ARCA has been controlling the bid for most of the day.
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK.. guys..lots of trades just went thru at .93...so how do you know if they were buys or sells? since both b and A were .93...
never mind..I guess we will assume they were sells...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Well technically aren't they both I was told that an uptick represents a buy and a down tick a sell. How true that is I have no idea.
Posted by dog on :
Stop teasin Tax... tryin to get more at .901 Hehe... this is ridiculous... absolutely no float...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Hey rat ~
You look good in GREEN! ha ~
Whats happenin' Walker!!!
GREEN??? LOL ,,, Just barely....
I have alot of wok to do to repair the damage I did to myself the last two weeks...
We'll get-um!!!!
Tax!!!! carefull of the tease!!! You could end up...pregnant???
GL
Posted by Repoman75 on :
Which moved to match .93, the bid or ask?
Posted by cassity on :
I started school again today, hard to concentrate. Anyways, why is this going up? Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, haven't been able to keep up all day. thanks
Posted by RyanPBF on :
The bid just moved up to match the ask
Posted by dog on :
GO AWAY ARCA!!! lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Hey rat ~
You look good in GREEN! ha ~
Whats happenin' Walker!!!
GREEN??? LOL ,,, Just barely....
I have alot of wok to do to repair the damage I did to myself the last two weeks...
We'll get-um!!!!
Tax!!!! carefull of the tease!!! You could end up...pregnant???
GL
wouldn't that be dilution?
Posted by dog on :
Going up cuz I tried to buy 12,000
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Just passing time by throwing teaser sales at the MM's figure they are getting hungry. It is like dangeling a dead mouse in front of a starving Lion. Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: they didn't post it on my feed...
I had called etrade a few months ago...and "they" told me that some of these are "posted" together...??? which I think is a crock...
Same deal at TDA. I have a 3,000,000 sale this morning on another stock and there was no question it was lumped into a 4,900,000 sale.
Posted by 10of13 on :
what is with this .93 dance....?????
Posted by dog on :
ARCA is not going to let me get any!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
MM's don't want to let this go over .93 it seems that there's been plenty of buys at .93 to move it up.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Charging at the HOD again
I'm lov'n this!
Posted by dog on :
Watch this .921
Posted by cassity on :
Who's on the bid and ask right now? Sorry, don't have my L2's here at school.
Posted by mnvestor on :
ARCA and NITE
Posted by djg7 on :
NITE on Bid
NITE and SBSH on ask
Posted by dog on :
Yeah that's right ... don't sell me any. LOL
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i thought this before i left a bit ago...and i still think it now...the market makers are being forced to make a "legitimate" market now...all the non-sense we've been seeing IMO isn't coming back...taking it up and down 20% at a time and all that...i really think the manipulation is over...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
well dog they figure you're one of the heavy hitters here they just trying to spread it around. j/k
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Charging at the HOD again
I'm lov'n this!
It's more or less, PISSEN ME OFF!!!
The control those blastards are able to keep on this is unreal..
This should have bit them in the azz a long time ago...
O.K...... I'm done...
Posted by djg7 on :
Only NITE on bid and ask.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yeah crab... The SHO list, Threshold, -no more selling shares they don't have, (naked shorts) REAL shares now are being traded ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Yeah crab... The SHO list, Threshold, -no more selling shares they don't have, (naked shorts) REAL shares now are being traded ~
you really think that? Seems most of these are buys...and they aren't letting it go up...frustrating!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Supposed to" not short... The nubers will be very small IMO.
Heck the SHO report said we were at 5 thousand and some % up in naked shorts!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Yeah crab... The SHO list, Threshold, -no more selling shares they don't have, (naked shorts) REAL shares now are being traded ~
If this were true, don't you think it would be blowing past the resistance with a little more ease??
I am cautiosly optmistic at best, that they aren't holding a couple more tricks up their sleeves...
Posted by dog on :
Manipulating *******s! That sale at .921 was not mine... noone else bid first as I placed the order and NITE picked it up to the top. Who else bought? ...MM's covering
Posted by 10of13 on :
Are we about to break .93...c'mon move it!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I can't believe we're not past .93 already
Posted by djg7 on :
NITE has grip on this by the cudats.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
should tap .95 before long....(If they let it)....don't think it will get much past that..
Posted by dog on :
They really don't want to let any traders pick up shares... what do you think that means? squeeeeze
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Well h*ll yes they will do whatever!!
Why do you think I said EOD .95 or better.
They CAN'T let it run, but it will have upward pressure now, that is what we are seeing ~
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
What are you talking about? I get filled instantly at the ask
Posted by dog on :
Hey check it out... I'll cancel my bid... see what happens.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Well, I'll go along with the .95+ thing....
I'm not sure it will close there...It should at least bump it ...
Posted by lostone on :
looking good.. it's up from here on? should be.. counting down the days..
Posted by dog on :
You wanna see .95? Here you go..I'll bid .94
Posted by djg7 on :
NITE will not let this go!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Bid and ask at .93 and NO sales?..... wt
Posted by 10of13 on :
ARGGGGHHHH!!!! .93 is really frustrating....
Posted by djg7 on :
Good move dog.
Posted by dog on :
Got 7900 at .94
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Good dog! lol ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
Dog...do you have enough funds to walk this up a few more dollars? LOL
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
is .95 any better for you 10?
Posted by dog on :
LOL wtf...ok
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
someone feels ambitious...
about 80k just went through...
50000 7500 10000 23200
all at .95
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: You wanna see .95? Here you go..I'll bid .94
Hey that was like magic.....do it again. Posted by dog on :
See that 50000?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: is .95 any better for you 10?
LOL...I would say something "sexual"...but i won't...and it is a "lil" less frustrating...LOL
Posted by glassman on :
more DD...
hope this helps alittle
locked market A market run by tooth fairies, where the bid equals the ask.
In a locked market the bid equals the ask, which is a difficult position to maintain. In both theory and practice, dealers don't maintain it. Nor is a prolongued locked market required to make money. Instead, a dealer locks the market for an instant to set a spurious underlying price and a confederate takes the profits in an ill-designed derivatives market. (Leslie Eaton, "Nasdaq Fines Morgan Stanley $1 Million, NYT, 4/14/98. "NASD Fines Morgan Stanley $1 Million For Allegedly Manipulating Stock Prices," WSJ, 4/14/98.)
haha...i dig older...i mean more experienced...i mean...
nevermind...
Posted by bigstocks on :
That 50k wasnt me, wish it was!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
this is acting like a EOD run ~ We still have that to look forward too! But they are clearly not letting this thing fly like they could ~
Posted by glassman on :
rule 5262 ITS trade thru rule
rule 5263 Locked and crossed markets rule
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
It sure looks like an EOD run to me so far. Im shootin for over a buck. 1.03 HOD and 1.01 EOD. Thats my guess. Posted by Chartwalker on :
welcome DOLLAR LAND!
Posted by djg7 on :
10,000 share trade at .98.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i think 1.10 or thereabouts...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
not even a Mill in volume yet! Gotta love a true squeeze! <smooch!>
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: rule 5262 ITS trade thru rule
rule 5263 Locked and crossed markets rule
???
Posted by dinner42 on :
Wasn't me, the locked market post was nice to see. NITE is playin their poker hand in a similar fashion on other ticks, notice similarities aross various sectors. Tight spreads.
Chef, is dinner ready?
dinner42
Posted by glassman on :
just DD references 10...
lotsa people here got some loinin' to do... Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Well, I'll go along with the .95+ thing....
I'm not sure it will close there...It should at least bump it ...
See, you were away and got rusty! jk ~
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: rule 5262 ITS trade thru rule
rule 5263 Locked and crossed markets rule
so do we buy at the bid or the ask? Posted by betting babe on :
...everybody puuuushhhhhhh Posted by dog on :
I hated to pay .94 , but it's impossible to fill... I took that as a sign that this will not be dropping anytime soon short of a catastrophe or basher manipulation.
Posted by milliam on :
This is looking nice. I hope she holds now. A true squeeze would be nice, but I too think the MM's aren't done just yet. I hope I'm wrong though!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I don't want to see a pullback! Come on dollarland!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
holy ####!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
C'mon....let's gooooo...take it above a buck and beyond!!! It's time for this thing to move forward to the promised land!!!
Posted by djg7 on :
Dollarland!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I was away from the boards for a bit ... but did look at the charts a bit closer... I was just gunna come in an d say that I think it could hit the hi .90s today ...
When I looked....It aready happened..LOL
Good call Walker!!!
I'm starten to get back in the groove...
Lets kick some azz!!!!
And eat some MM's...
i like the blue ones,,,,yummmmmmmm
Posted by 10of13 on :
i would love to try to flip this but for the first time...I really have no balls!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
There's the rat I know! ha !!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
The guy that saw rufus the other day at the BBQ reported that Rufus said the short squeeze is starting now and refered to information or papers monday thru wednesday. This little run seems to make a lot of sense in that context. Yeah Baby YEah!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
all bets off now!!!
Lets see where she goes
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: i would love to try to flip this but for the first time...I really have no balls!
Thats a good thing 10!!!
Nothin worse than a girl with a bulge!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hear that?...
Sounds like something getting squeezed!! lol ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
hope it's not 10's bulge...
Posted by Igor R on :
Anyone think this is going to continue tomorrow?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: i would love to try to flip this but for the first time...I really have no balls!
Thats a good thing 10!!!
Nothin worse than a girl with a bulge!!!
Knew you wouldn't pass that open door! lol ~
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
This is not a rise and fall climb This is more of a rise then stall climb MM's are sweating this IMHO
Posted by 10of13 on :
Posted by dog on :
Any more buying pressure at all and this thing is gonna skyrocket! My big order shoved it up.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Man...look at the volume compared to last Friday...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: This is not a rise and fall climb This is more of a rise then stall climb MM's are sweating this IMHO
Yea, i dont expect this to fall back tomorrow. I would expect to see more of today if all of the "short talk" is accurate. Finally some stability to support all of us longs!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
going higher ~
EOD let's hear'em!!
Have a res. level at 1.04 I'll take that! (1.13 is my res. level next!)
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quite a match, here: buy sell buy buy sell buy sell...pretty good
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think we close at .975
Posted by maumee river rat on :
If this takes off 10,,,
Don't get a splinter off that "Wood" you'll be sportin"! Posted by Doniboy on :
Hello FHAL people!!!! Why is this stock going up again???????
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Hello FHAL people!!!! Why is this stock going up again???????
Because 10 is sportin Wood!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: If this takes off 10,,,
Don't get a splinter off that "Wood" you'll be sportin"!
LMAO...Jealous?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Daytraders leavin'?
Posted by dog on :
It's going up cuz I bought 10k shares....hard as hell all day to do it!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Not really... It's your wood...and you can varnish it as fast as you like,,
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I think we close at .975
See what you did maumee!!!???
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, who stopped pushing?! It never reached my 1.03 HOD!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, who stopped pushing?! It never reached my 1.03 HOD!!
Maumee did...it's his age...no stamina left
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It's pbobably better that we settle on that support level today,,,,It will add a little strength to it...
lookin good so far IMO..
Posted by dog on :
Get your shares while they last... it's gonna get tougher.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, who stopped pushing?! It never reached my 1.03 HOD!!
Maumee did...it's his age...no stamina left
No man can compete with a "strap-on"10...
Especialy a well varnished one!!! Posted by Vin on :
I'm new to this stuff, so bear with me if this is a stupid question. What does it signal when the Ask remains fairly stable, but the Buy bounces all over the place?
Posted by trade04 on :
WOW I LEAVE FOR the day and i come back to greenery! i should leave more often lol
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, who stopped pushing?! It never reached my 1.03 HOD!!
Maumee did...it's his age...no stamina left
No man can compete with a "strap-on"10...
Especialy a well varnished one!!!
You mean a leg, right? Like Ahab...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Man...did that have to be the first post on the page...??? LMAO...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: WOW I LEAVE FOR the day and i come back to greenery! i should leave more often lol
Bye!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: WOW I LEAVE FOR the day and i come back to greenery! i should leave more often lol
Buh-Bye now!!! Posted by dog on :
I hear somebody crying...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Hey 1.03!! I wouldnt mind if i were wrong though. It can go higher i spose. Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: WOW I LEAVE FOR the day and i come back to greenery! i should leave more often lol
Buh-Bye now!!!
lol what happened? nothing just people buying? or is some info going around>?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Hey 1.03!! I wouldnt mind if i were wrong though. It can go higher i spose.
OK 1.04 and climbing...
Man Cat..all we needed was your permission...Dang!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Geez 10!!!
Our similar response to trade04's post is freakin me out..
We think the same??? Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Geez 10!!!
Our similar response to trade04's post is freakin me out..
We think the same???
Don't ever say that again!
Posted by bigstocks on :
Some large buying going on!
Posted by 10of13 on :
1.05....WHOOO HOOO!!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
41670 at 1.05
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Hey 1.03!! I wouldnt mind if i were wrong though. It can go higher i spose.
OK 1.04 and climbing...
Man Cat..all we needed was your permission...Dang!
Ok, they can release the 10k now i spose
Posted by maumee river rat on :
WOW!!!! Very impressive here....
I'm amazed...Support now around 1.01..
That could be the close now....
Unreal....
What-cha see Walker???
Posted by Sandusky on :
WTF trade above the ask?! LOL...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
50000 at 1.05
i'm sorry make that an even 100k...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: WOW!!!! Very impressive here....
I'm amazed...Support now around 1.01..
That could be the close now....
Unreal....
What-cha see Walker???
Maumee we just needed cats permission and you back here postin'...
(And Cat...i swear if that 10K comes out today...)
Posted by portman on :
looks like a pre-pr run of the past....
Posted by dog on :
Let the panic begin...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: WOW!!!! Very impressive here....
I'm amazed...Support now around 1.01..
That could be the close now....
Unreal....
What-cha see Walker???
Maumee we just needed cats permission and you back here postin'...
(And Cat...i swear if that 10K comes out today...)
LOL!!!!
That could put a whole new meaning to the phrase "Hang Ten" LOL
Posted by SherriT on :
Gee whiz - did we get news or something?
Posted by betting babe on :
*holds breath*
Posted by 10of13 on :
1.09....HOLY CRAP!!!!
Yeah BAby!!!!!
Posted by dog on :
WTF!!!! PPS 2 levels above ask?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Geez, everyone wants in at EOD!! Does sommmmmmebody know sommmmmmmmmething? Posted by portman on :
Grandma is revving up folks!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
gotta love it. Just got home from work and looky looky what we've got going here. SWEET
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *holds breath*
BB Breathe...C'mon...it's going to be OK...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
WOW!!!!
This is punchin holes in resistance like a mad dog!!!!!
Support at 1.08 now
Posted by new2stocks on :
OMG $1.12.... Posted by $$$bill on :
why is it running???
whatever it is, just keep it running.
Posted by 10of13 on :
What a great way to start the week!!!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
lets see how 1.15 tastes...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: WOW!!!!
This is punchin holes in resistance like a mad dog!!!!!
Support at 1.08 now
So what are our new resistance levels?
Posted by trade04 on :
I'm hysterically laughing lol
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Next solid resistance around the 1.22 mark today..
That would be truely amazing...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Who the F is selling? where are these shares comi' from?
Posted by Igor R on :
Anyone know why its doing this?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
wooohooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!! sure am glad I picked em back up plus 300. Now I need a few more thousand and I'll be set.
Posted by portman on :
Mamma's got squeeze box...Daddy never sleeps at night...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
ETRD 101.15 on the ask, lol...
Posted by betting babe on :
*eyes bulge like david blaine*
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *holds breath*
BB Breathe...C'mon...it's going to be OK...
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: OMG $1.12....
oh nooo, I crapped myself!
Posted by dog on :
Rufus better not say anything until a 10K! Don't wanna ruin this. IMHO
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by $$$bill: why is it running???
whatever it is, just keep it running.
Because it should have never been 0.85 after last weeks PR and 8K but the MM's wouldn't let go. Watching and loving it.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
CRAZZZZZYYY. We've all been waiting long enough for this.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
my girlfreind says 1.20 eod
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Stockstar69:
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: OMG $1.12....
I'm getting a warm fuzzy feeling...oh...I crapped myself!
Posted by portman on :
1.32
Posted by $$$bill on :
collegestudent you should marry her
Posted by dog on :
Tik tok tik tok
Posted by new2stocks on :
AWSOME!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *eyes bulge like david blaine*
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *holds breath*
BB Breathe...C'mon...it's going to be OK...
Still making HOD's!!! Rollin, rollin, rollin!!
Tell David Blane to turn this stock into 54 dollars please, heck, 154 .
Posted by T e x on :
i wanna see if they if they paint it...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: my girlfreind says 1.20 eod
stop talkin to your hand!!! Posted by RyanPBF on :
everyone see that 73,600 buy at 1.18
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
1.18 it is...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: my girlfreind says 1.20 eod
stop talkin to your hand!!!
would that be sign language?
Posted by betting babe on :
*pthhhhhhhhhhhht*
woooohooooooooo Posted by T e x on :
i'm showing hod 1.19, last 1.17...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *pthhhhhhhhhhhht*
woooohooooooooo
i concur...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *pthhhhhhhhhhhht*
woooohooooooooo
Couldn't hold it that long huh!?
Posted by dog on :
Damn.... bought that 7800 at .94 just in time Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: *pthhhhhhhhhhhht*
woooohooooooooo
lmaooo.. what a ride!
(shouldve beenn pSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)
Posted by 10of13 on :
OK...Now really...where did all of these shares come from?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
call the T/A 10...see if the float is still the same...
haha...i'll bet ihub is about to have a meltdown...50 posts a second, lol...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
FRom the share store!!!! GEEEEEEZZE!!!!
Posted by dog on :
It started the jump when I moved the 7800 shares to 2 cents higher than the current PPS. It was the only way I could pick up shares! Run started then....
Posted by new2stocks on :
What a way to end the day! booyah!
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: It started the jump when I moved the 7800 shares to 2 cents higher than the current PPS. It was the only way I could pick up shares! Run started then....
damn dog, thanks! u single handledly caused a run lol jk....tomorrow this will gap up nicely...
Posted by 6digits on :
What about when I bought 5200 at .92. Didn't that do anything?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: It started the jump when I moved the 7800 shares to 2 cents higher than the current PPS. It was the only way I could pick up shares! Run started then....
Dog, you're my hero!!! LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
BB? You OK over there? LOL...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think someone poked a hole in her,,,,
She made a pfffffftttt sound...
Posted by SherriT on :
These things never cease to amaze me...
Posted by 6digits on :
long, tall Babe, Hi!
Posted by Igor R on :
Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
Posted by betting babe on :
hi diggy!
that was a trip! but seriously, who was selling at this level?
or were the MMs just holding it down so long that TOING! Posted by dog on :
You watched that didn't you? Totally MM controlled.... if any more buying... yes any buying pressure and it's going up!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
The first MM to jump ship and run for cover is going to start a feeding frenzy!!!!
This could be just a small taste...
I am still cautious of a shake,,,
Posted by betting babe on :
Dig, did you sell off a lil and now you added again?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
I don't know...$1.17 for a possible $54? How much are lottery tickets?
Posted by dog on :
I sold off a little to lose money on ACTC, and getting 10k shares back was a real bizzle....
Selling happens within seconds.... buying next to impossible... what does that mean?
Where were these shares coming from?
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
Getting rid of naked shorting does that! I agree! Just weak hands that can do any damage, or uninformed hands... -maybe I should say...
Yeah, I guess we'll be getting some more here too next week.
Good luck Money!
Yea, we were right. I still think this baby has some gooood running room. Like the looks of the Aroon with RSI 59.92 and climbing. Accumulation and distribution also climbing. MACD turning upward sharply. Speculation is great!
Thats why I took my three penny loss X 700 shares and picked up 1000 X .89. Oh well but I'm in the ride .
Might be able to play a wee bit longer but I'll keep some in reserve from now on. Thanks for all the DD and help all!
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Lets all put in buy orders 50 shares at $3.00 Tuesday. Wonder what that would do???
Posted by SherriT on :
I hate having my money stuck in other worthless plays Hope this good fortunes continues though - some shares are better than no shares, right?
Posted by betting babe on :
MoneyMoneyMoney MoneyMoneyMoney MoneyMoneyMoney Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
It is going to head right back down below a dollar tomorrow. The usual pattern with this one. I sold 2000 shares * 1.05 and then placed a buy * .85
Posted by ruthie on :
Whoo Whee!!!!!
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: MoneyMoneyMoney
Oooo my, you are so hot when you spell my name, lol Prob when your not too but thank you for your DD as it has been very helpful!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
It is going to head right back down below a dollar tomorrow. The usual pattern with this one. I sold 2000 shares * 1.05 and then placed a buy * .85
maybe last week...i doubt that is gonna happen now that you'll be bidding on REAL shares and not air...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
It is going to head right back down below a dollar tomorrow. The usual pattern with this one. I sold 2000 shares * 1.05 and then placed a buy * .85
Thats an interesting gamble. After a ride like this afternoon its hard for me not to consider a flip in the am but i dont think i have the courage. I guess it will be obvious enough in the premarket L2's so ill watch but im pretty sure im holding everything. It appears to difficult to chase it back up if necessary.
Posted by dog on :
For those that didn't witness the last few seconds... check this out.
Posted by: zoosmith In reply to: None Date:8/28/2006 4:23:28 PM Post #of 58582
anyone see this? the 73000 buy?
CONVERSION SOLUTIONS HLD - Nasdaq National Market: CSHD
I still have 4000 shares I will not dump. Just needed a new washing machine.
Posted by SherriT on :
If you have the cash, I would recommend simply averaging down....available shares are like water on the western side of Texas (read: non-existent).
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
It is going to head right back down below a dollar tomorrow. The usual pattern with this one. I sold 2000 shares * 1.05 and then placed a buy * .85
Thats an interesting gamble. After a ride like this afternoon its hard for me not to consider a flip in the am but i dont think i have the courage. I guess it will be obvious enough in the premarket L2's so ill watch but im pretty sure im holding everything. It appears to difficult to chase it back up if necessary.
Love to do it... btu I'm not courageous enough at this point... waiting for news or watching for premarket buys in the am.
You're right Cat... chasing could be very painful...
Posted by Jo4321 on :
Well, ever since the Stock l e m o n fiasco, where I sold off a lot, I have only been holding 500 shares at .82.
I figured that little risk was well worth the price of admission to this crazy show.
Jo
Posted by betting babe on :
heah. a new washing machine. true, it is just a few hunderd dollars... but had you held you could have made an additional $240 +
now, buying back at .85 if you are able, to sell again at say $1 will make you another $300, minus the trade fees, you are almost at what you'd be at selling at HOD today.
this isnt a criticism of your flip mary, it is just an example of why i find this too unpredictable to flip, at this point.
~BB
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary:
quote:Originally posted by Igor R: Picked some up right before the close, was afraid to chase it, but just gave in lol. Hope that wasn't a mistake.
It is going to head right back down below a dollar tomorrow. The usual pattern with this one. I sold 2000 shares * 1.05 and then placed a buy * .85
Thats an interesting gamble. After a ride like this afternoon its hard for me not to consider a flip in the am but i dont think i have the courage. I guess it will be obvious enough in the premarket L2's so ill watch but im pretty sure im holding everything. It appears to difficult to chase it back up if necessary.
Posted by tyleemary on :
But you dont know what the EOD is gonna be. I sold those shares about a half hour before close.
Posted by 6digits on :
Yes Babe, I've been up and down and over and out. I sold enough to pay for my investment recently and have free shares. I sold some other stuff for a few more of these. This is a hard one to want to make my money back, when the profit is supposed to be so high, but it's a good habit to follow. I've been promised the earth moon and stars before and only got a deep money pit for it. Hows about you? PM me if it's a secret. Babe I think there are still some die hard flippers, I got the 5200 shars earlier in 30 seconds.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Dig, did you sell off a lil and now you added again?
[ August 28, 2006, 16:48: Message edited by: 6digits ]
Posted by tyleemary on :
The trade fees are only 12.99 each way. I bought those 2k shares at .75 4 days ago. Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Posted by dog on :
Well I screwed around as I was getting bored... now I'm light 1k shares from my original position... and lost $2k on ACTC... thinking about just letting it ride from here.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
i can't argue with wanting to cover your initial buy in...but i think believing that could come back to bite ya...in the past few weeks...i would have believed that 100%...now though...not so much...
Posted by betting babe on :
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Hows about you? PM me if it's a secret.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Dig, did you sell off a lil and now you added again?
my recent work schedule combined with my web A-D-D hasnt allowed me to flip, nor have i added, nor have i sold. i've been down 10 grand, up 10 grand, and i keep landing right in the middle.
there's something comforting to know that i am happy to just sit on it... for the moment. that moment may change at any... moment
again, mary, didnt mean to criticize your trade at alllll. it's all personal decisions based on personal circumstances.
~BB
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Wozzazz what a day!!! Yeah Rat, she's a pretty sweet girl... She has been annoyed with me in the past but she came to my room 15 minutes before close and watched the EOD with me. She has 550 shares alotted to her in my account and she remarked how fun this stock thing is. In the past it's not been so fun but today... well... yeah...pssssssssssst* = Posted by dog on :
Gapper UP in AM?
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe I know the feeling, I been up and down about 100k or more with this since I got in it. I'm hoping for happy moments, moment by moment. What time is it?
quote:Originally posted by betting babe:
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Hows about you? PM me if it's a secret.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: Dig, did you sell off a lil and now you added again?
my recent work schedule combined with my web A-D-D hasnt allowed me to flip, nor have i added, nor have i sold. i've been down 10 grand, up 10 grand, and i keep landing right in the middle.
there's something comforting to know that i am happy to just sit on it... for the moment. that moment may change at any... moment
again, mary, didnt mean to criticize your trade at alllll. it's all personal decisions based on personal circumstances.
~BB
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Well I screwed around as I was getting bored... now I'm light 1k shares from my original position... and lost $2k on ACTC... thinking about just letting it ride from here.
I'm feeling your pain...did the same thing so I could average down in another position and get out, only I haven't been able to get out yet...
Hindsight is always perfect though, ain't it?
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Gapper UP in AM?
Surely hope so.
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Well I screwed around as I was getting bored... now I'm light 1k shares from my original position... and lost $2k on ACTC... thinking about just letting it ride from here.
I'm feeling your pain...did the same thing so I could average down in another position and get out, only I haven't been able to get out yet...
Hindsight is always perfect though, ain't it?
It hurt... but looking back can turn you into a nervous wreck. Learn and move on... the only play that means anything is your next trade. You only hope you are wiser for the experience.
Posted by 6digits on :
Babe I like your money post. A lot of thought was put into that.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
anyone else notice how trades just stoped at 4:00...we've always had leftovers and whatnot...pretty wierd...
Posted by dog on :
There were always leftovers as long as it benefitted the MM's... today it did not.. abrupt halt.
Just a hunch... not actual DD... heck forget I even said it. Posted by betting babe on :
momentary outburst moneymoneymoney liked it
quote:Originally posted by 6digits: Babe I like your money post. A lot of thought was put into that.
Posted by P Rowds on :
tylee... you made your own decision to do what YOU wanted to do and thats great. just to look at things from a different perspective... the last few weeks it was boosted to a dollar by a PR...(no audited financials, so of course a flip opportun) today, no PR to boost it... also, if what this guy that went to rufus' picnic is true... who knows what could happen. I'm not judging your decision... simply food for thought. just a generalization, who knows... maybe she tanks tomorrow...
Posted by dog on :
The big question is: Are you green today? If so.. good. The trick is to string some green days together and you'll be back up in no time...just smarter.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: The trade fees are only 12.99 each way. I bought those 2k shares at .75 4 days ago. Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Tell you what if you can predict these changes so well I will buy you a new washer and give you 50k to trade for me. hows that!!!
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: The trade fees are only 12.99 each way. I bought those 2k shares at .75 4 days ago. Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Tell you what if you can predict these changes so well I will buy you a new washer and give you 50k to trade for me. hows that!!!
I for one couldn't begin to guess what this stock is gonna do..chart mean very little, PR's drop the price, updated 8K dropped the price, some guy BBQ's with Rufus and today happens..LOL
Posted by a surfer on :
I just checked the float has increased from 27,900,020 to 28,938,159....
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
insiders selling?
Posted by portman on :
Well, that concludes a good day. Let's see if we get a plethora of bashers over at IHUB.
Clearly this moved as if something was in the works. No activity all day then a flurry at the end.
I still maintain we are in or very near the 20 day window.
I also believe that anyone will be very lucky to see sub $1 in the near term if this is truly the mother of all short squeezes.
If these are not "new" shares in the market then we are more likely to continue tomorrow. I prefer slow and steady if we do. If there are "new" shares then we might see a dip.
Posted by laker08 on :
wow i'm up $20290 on this baby. i have 81k shares now. am i beeing too greedy to not sell??? i seriously think this will happen based on everything that has happened so far. i'd like to thank everyone for their wonderful dd. i don't think i could sell at this point i don't see this going down, and i'm positive the movement was due to the shortsqueeze. can anyone think of a reason that this might go down tomrrow. i think it will only go down 3 days from now if the 10k doesn't show up. mm's still need to cover for atleast 2-3 more days. thoughts?
Posted by portman on :
Looks like we have 1 Mill new shares. The question is...what kind?
Posted by P Rowds on :
Regarding the b l o g release earlier. i know this was talked about a little bit... but... am i reading this right? did he say he doesn't own any shares and then say, "...schwab would even accept MY shares for deposit." please... if i'm reading and understanding this wrong somebody let me know(i probably am)... thanks in advance
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/ "I will not rehash or endorse any of the material on those sites, and because I’ve never held the stock (long or short), I really have no interest in this story besides one of curiousity............
It was only a few weeks ago that Schwab would even accept my shares for deposit."
Posted by ruthie on :
I watched this stock till about 2:30 today. It was only at .93 I was so surprised when I got in at 4:00 and saw it at 1.17... It must have jumped up by two or more cents at a time!!! What a great EOD!
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: Regarding the b l o g release earlier. i know this was talked about a little bit... but... am i reading this right? did he say he doesn't own any shares and then say, "...schwab would even accept MY shares for deposit." please... if i'm reading and understanding this wrong somebody let me know(i probably am)... thanks in advance
http://www.pqlresearch.com/WordPress/ "I will not rehash or endorse any of the material on those sites, and because I’ve never held the stock (long or short), I really have no interest in this story besides one of curiousity............
It was only a few weeks ago that Schwab would even accept my shares for deposit."
not real good at bashing is he. Well you get what you pay for it seems.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Dang Computer CRASHED!!!! I have been off since $1.01!!!!!
What a deal huh?... Missed all the fun!
Posted by Squire38 on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Too much buying pressure at the end of the day, IMO, for it to drop tomorrow.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Dang Computer CRASHED!!!! I have been off since $1.01!!!!!
What a deal huh?... Missed all the fun!
It was a nice lil run chart...sorry you missed it...but you know what...i believe we will have more...!!!
Posted by luvforever on :
Heeellooo Green all the way. missed most of the day went to docs and icing my neck ~lol~ must have hurt it watching this puter tooooo long!...~lol~ What a good day...glta Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Dang Computer CRASHED!!!! I have been off since $1.01!!!!!
What a deal huh?... Missed all the fun!
It was a nice lil run chart...sorry you missed it...but you know what...i believe we will have more...!!!
Oh, I mean I'm "in" just missed the fun! Funny the first post I saw when I signed on was Rat talking about that strap on!
I laughed so hard my eyes watered!! lol ~~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I "Think" next PR will have something to do about the squeeze, Rufus said Tuesday - Wednesday he would have solid numbers on that according to the picture guy...
Posted by MTPromises on :
with what I made today, I could afford live in New York . . . for a few weeks, anyway! Still boggled by your post, BB, about the cost of living in New York. Just where do people like janitors, cabies, and bus drivers live?
Posted by betting babe on :
Queens, Bronx, Queens, Bronx LOL
ok that is soooo gonna get me in trouble with the ny folks. bad babe, bad Posted by a surfer on :
Any one have an opinion about the float going up to 28,938,159......?????
Posted by dog on :
BB.... that's cold...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Any one have an opinion about the float going up to 28,938,159......?????
Not really an opinion...but a question... "these counts"...are they from what has traded? I mean how to they "come up with" the "float" numbers as compared to the OS?
I should re state...I know how a float is figured..but this one seems a little screwie because of Rufas "buying up some"...and the way that I understood it was that the once restricted shares are no longer restricted and seems that some how the count might be off...?
Posted by Livinonklendathu on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Any one have an opinion about the float going up to 28,938,159......?????
1) Restricted shares being sold? 2) SB-2 shares coming in and using them to cover? 3) Better count on the float with the shares being "accounted for" behind the scenes? 4) Don't have a friggin clue?
OBV and ACC/DIST actually went up today so it is probably not dilutive in nature.
I go with 4. Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: The trade fees are only 12.99 each way. I bought those 2k shares at .75 4 days ago. Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Tell you what if you can predict these changes so well I will buy you a new washer and give you 50k to trade for me. hows that!!!
people say things just like that when they aren't IN...think about it...
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by Squire38:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Too much buying pressure at the end of the day, IMO, for it to drop tomorrow.
Weirder things have happened, lol.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: The trade fees are only 12.99 each way. I bought those 2k shares at .75 4 days ago. Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Tell you what if you can predict these changes so well I will buy you a new washer and give you 50k to trade for me. hows that!!!
people say things just like that when they aren't IN...think about it...
Roger that!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
I just called the TA...he told me that the reason the float changes is because when people "get a cert" it takes away from the float...as people take the certs to their broker...to be deposited for selling...it will add to the float... ~he said that the float is the number of shares that the brokers have available to trade... ~he said that as of right now the "float" was 29m give or take...and that this will change throughout any given trading day...as people ask for Certs and as people deposit their certs.. ~he explained that the OS was at 97.2 at this time but he is expecting that to increase because they are combining FHAL shares and the CVSU shares...and there are shareholders from both companies that have not brought those "certificates" in...he claims most of the FHAL are accounted for...but CVSU have been slow coming... Hope this helps....
Posted by lostone on :
doesn't look like it will be coming down anytime soon.. it may dip on the usual shake.. but this baby is poised to run.. and what perfect timing than during the short squeeze to issue PR's.. =) awesome tactic.. we should expect something very soon..
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I just called the TA...he told me that the reason the float changes is because when people "get a cert" it takes away from the float...as people take the certs to their broker...to be deposited for selling...it will add to the float... ~he said that the float is the number of shares that the brokers have available to trade... ~he said that as of right now the "float" was 29m give or take...and that this will change throughout any given trading day...as people ask for Certs and as people deposit their certs.. ~he explained that the OS was at 97.2 at this time but he is expecting that to increase because they are combining FHAL shares and the CVSU shares...and there are shareholders from both companies that have not brought those "certificates" in...he claims most of the FHAL are accounted for...but CVSU have been slow coming... Hope this helps....
Wow, good stuff. Thanks! Thats the best explaination ive heard on the subject of our floating shares and O/S.
Posted by glassman on :
real DD Posted by 10of13 on :
This also explains much more to me as to why Rufas wanted us to get our CERTS! The price would move much quicker...
Posted by trade04 on :
YAH GOOD dd. OT:South florida preparing for a possible Hurricane Ernesto right now, everyone in a frenzy as usual.
thank god i got a house generator. last hurricane season We were without power for A week or so combined (between wilma and katrina) so this year im ready =)
Posted by dog on :
Strong work on DD!
Now does that mean we ought to order the certs?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Strong work on DD!
Now does that mean we ought to order the certs?
Not really...but it seems that this would make the PPS rise even more quickly...if the MM's and brokers are able to see that there really are no shares out there that somebody can quickly put a trade in for...then it just seems to make sence that the prise would go up...less likely for the MM's to try to make fake shakes...and what not...no one can hurry and put a sell order in...
Posted by trade04 on :
CANELATION of POST
Posted by luvforever on :
Chart ur mailbox is full~LOL~ Posted by 10of13 on :
glass...do you know how to "delete" your PM's? LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Chart ur mailbox is full~LOL~
Seems to be alot of that goin' on...LOL
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I just called the TA...he told me that the reason the float changes is because when people "get a cert" it takes away from the float...as people take the certs to their broker...to be deposited for selling...it will add to the float... ~he said that the float is the number of shares that the brokers have available to trade... ~he said that as of right now the "float" was 29m give or take...and that this will change throughout any given trading day...as people ask for Certs and as people deposit their certs.. ~he explained that the OS was at 97.2 at this time but he is expecting that to increase because they are combining FHAL shares and the CVSU shares...and there are shareholders from both companies that have not brought those "certificates" in...he claims most of the FHAL are accounted for...but CVSU have been slow coming... Hope this helps....
I also asked about the "insiders" that filed to sell their shares...he said that if they have already filed...that the numbers would be in the float...because they can now sell on the open market...
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: YAH GOOD dd. OT:South florida preparing for a possible Hurricane Ernesto right now, everyone in a frenzy as usual.
thank god i got a house generator. last hurricane season We were without power for A week or so combined (between wilma and katrina) so this year im ready =)
They come in handy now a days... Good luck to you Trade!! Looks like we get minimal effects over here in Naples
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Chart ur mailbox is full~LOL~
Sorry!
Cleaned out some, try now... Posted by Chartwalker on :
Great info 10!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
stepping out b-back later! Posted by luvforever on :
ok lol ')
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I just called the TA...he told me that the reason the float changes is because when people "get a cert" it takes away from the float...as people take the certs to their broker...to be deposited for selling...it will add to the float... ~he said that the float is the number of shares that the brokers have available to trade... ~he said that as of right now the "float" was 29m give or take...and that this will change throughout any given trading day...as people ask for Certs and as people deposit their certs.. ~he explained that the OS was at 97.2 at this time but he is expecting that to increase because they are combining FHAL shares and the CVSU shares...and there are shareholders from both companies that have not brought those "certificates" in...he claims most of the FHAL are accounted for...but CVSU have been slow coming... Hope this helps....
good post
Posted by tyleemary on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: The trade fees are only 12.99 each way. I bought those 2k shares at .75 4 days ago. Tomorrow it will go down again or hold this range and go down the next.
Unless the 10k comes out, then 4K shares will work that.
Tell you what if you can predict these changes so well I will buy you a new washer and give you 50k to trade for me. hows that!!!
If I give you my PAYPAL address, will deposit it tomorrow ?
Posted by Uncle Smelly on :
I'm still here and still long. In fact I was able to purchase another 5K shares today, my total holding is now 15K shares.
That eod run was a thing of beauty, I'm lookingo forward to the open. Since I'm on PST I'll check for any midnight specials from Uncle Rufus.
I still can't believe he let a shareholder go to his BBQ, this guy has some real cajones, that's for sure!
Posted by tyleemary on :
How do you know it was "jo-blo" shareholder??
Could have been his cousin for all we know.
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: How do you know it was "jo-blo" shareholder??
Could have been his cousin for all we know.
Don't think so... I watched the conversation unfold until the guy online said ... forget it, I'm going there... drove an hour after conning his wife to go... and met with him. He introduced himself... blah,blah,blah see the thread Anyways... same guy comes back and posts the story and the photos. It would be one smart mo-fo to plan a scam like that. Just saying I saw it unfold live...then closed with that story. Seems real enough.
However it really doesn't say anything other than he seems like a cool dude.... which somehow gives me a little comfort, but not much. IMHO
Posted by betting babe on :
i was totally thinking that too...
do we know the poster that orig posted the photos?
are we suuuuuuuuer it wasnt a fix?
~BB
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: How do you know it was "jo-blo" shareholder??
Could have been his cousin for all we know.
Posted by tyleemary on :
With all the scams in these penny stocks, it was only natural to think this.
I wonder if Bill Gates had shareholders over for tea when his company was smaller?
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: i was totally thinking that too...
do we know the poster that orig posted the photos?
are we suuuuuuuuer it wasnt a fix?
~BB
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: How do you know it was "jo-blo" shareholder??
Could have been his cousin for all we know.
I am with DOG.. I watched the thread and just like dog said he came back with proof.. I would bet my house on that one. Or all three for that matter. And dogs too!!! LOL.
Then again I have never locked a car door in my life so maybe I am a little naive.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by tyleemary: With all the scams in these penny stocks, it was only natural to think this.
I wonder if Bill Gates had shareholders over for tea when his company was smaller?
actually Bill has done that before....1988
Posted by sceptor on :
LMAO.... order in for The Wife...I am in SO much trouble.
Posted by MikeSC on :
I've never been involved in a potential freeze-price reset situation before. I've been thinking about what the best way would be to execute the trade.
Let's say you want to take some profit assuming the trading will resume at $54. Do you try to put in a sell order for that amount during the freeze? I know that Scottrade will not let you put in a limit order very high above the current price.
Any thoughts?
Posted by dog on :
We have to wait to the re-open...
Posted by glassman on :
call the broker Mike...
i think they can do it manually...
be careful what kind of order it is tho...
Posted by portman on :
You put WAY too much thought into that. Way too much.............
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I gotta be me cat Posted by glassman on :
back? what back Posted by T e x on :
apparently, the suggestion is for vertical type
d u m p
could be fun to read...just gotta move those "bookends"
Posted by portman on :
From Platalk....take with grain of salt....
sweetsplat: I do not know for sure that this information is absulutely 100% accurate sweetsplat: the guy that gave me this infomation has called the last 5 PR's sweetsplat: and he was accurate 2 the hour..... Trout31: Sweetsplat.... Hold on.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! sweetsplat: within 10 hours, I believe Trout31: This is "PALTALK .... BREAKING NEWS!" ... I reporter in the Field ....Sweetsplat ....has been working on this story.... all day....... Sweetsplat... are you there ...! sweetsplat: here it is: sweetsplat: In the next two days CHSD will reveal the name of the trust and where it is located (the bank) for confimation by independent parties. In addition, the goal with these and other PR's is to increase the pps to approximately $2 before the release of the 10K and S-4. I could not get a firm time frame of EOD, or noon sweetsplat: tomorrow. However, it is iminent and dependent on the pps. All issues related to FHAL "under the table, payola" agreements have been settled. This is the week. This should be what we have all been waiting for.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
ha ha ~~
You guys are too much!
Posted by mnvestor on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: From Platalk....take with grain of salt....
sweetsplat: I do not know for sure that this information is absulutely 100% accurate sweetsplat: the guy that gave me this infomation has called the last 5 PR's sweetsplat: and he was accurate 2 the hour..... Trout31: Sweetsplat.... Hold on.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! sweetsplat: within 10 hours, I believe Trout31: This is "PALTALK .... BREAKING NEWS!" ... I reporter in the Field ....Sweetsplat ....has been working on this story.... all day....... Sweetsplat... are you there ...! sweetsplat: here it is: sweetsplat: In the next two days CHSD will reveal the name of the trust and where it is located (the bank) for confimation by independent parties. In addition, the goal with these and other PR's is to increase the pps to approximately $2 before the release of the 10K and S-4. I could not get a firm time frame of EOD, or noon sweetsplat: tomorrow. However, it is iminent and dependent on the pps. All issues related to FHAL "under the table, payola" agreements have been settled. This is the week. This should be what we have all been waiting for.
take it for what its worth, but the person who is saying this has also called last 5 prs
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Hah! Thats pretty funny. Now if onnnnly we had someone to model those........
BB where are you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: yeah...to bad none of us know any incredibly smart, charming, sophisticated, beautiful models...
Yea, i wonder if there are any over at ihub or somethin'
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i always thought serfdom was a she...
could be... we're not pals...trade quips from time to time...pretty funny T's, though...my take was a guy, but... Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i always thought serfdom was a she... i guess that's HIRED a model wearing his t-shirts huh?
well...
one gets the idea...
that one is *supposed* to get the idea that serf and the model are pals...
whatever--pretty creative
Posted by glassman on :
One man gathers another man's pills”-Jerry Garcia
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: One man gathers another man's pills”-Jerry Garcia
Heh, i guess the message is easily changed eh? Posted by glassman on :
Jery was a good minstrel...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Jery was a good minstrel...
Yea, i heard he sold out a show or two. Never saw him live. I did go to a festival this summer called Gratefulfest. A bunch of bands all jammin in "The Deads" honor. Those fests are a culture shock but what a riot!
Posted by T e x on :
blah blah...
let's get back to rufus turning the system inside-out... Posted by dog on :
Took a break from the studio... any PR's.. oh... still talkin about the thongs..... check in later.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
No way man, its past my bedtime. As long as he turns it back outside out im all good.
Gnight
Posted by betting babe on :
oh sorry guys, i was busy trying on my new outfit...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
See, now i knew you wouldnt let us down. You seem to have a late night bulletin board craving that often needs filled. Posted by glassman on :
i'm glad i stayed up
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by MikeSC: I've never been involved in a potential freeze-price reset situation before. I've been thinking about what the best way would be to execute the trade.
Let's say you want to take some profit assuming the trading will resume at $54. Do you try to put in a sell order for that amount during the freeze? I know that Scottrade will not let you put in a limit order very high above the current price.
Any thoughts?
I have Etrade and was thinking of puting a good sized portion on my shares on a 2-4 dollor trailing stop. That way if it goes down it will sell and then if it goes up my price will ratchet up. Etrade has some very nice conditional order options. Ima
Posted by glassman on :
there's some pitfalls there IMA...
lessay it goes to 54, and drops to 38? your trailing stop-loss will still be activated... and it will sell as a market order once your stop loss is activated.... even if it's gap down for only a few minutes...
the MM's "tweak" those stop-losses all the time...
not like it's a crissis or anything since you still made money, but....
Posted by T e x on :
"heavy traders" can tweak stop losses... Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: there's some pitfalls there IMA...
lessay it goes to 54, and drops to 38? your trailing stop-loss will still be activated... and it will sell as a market order once your stop loss is activated.... even if it's gap down for only a few minutes...
the MM's "tweak" those stop-losses all the time...
not like it's a crissis or anything since you still made money, but....
Glass, I was thinking about that... It's so hard to know how to play this thing. I just want to protect my capital and take a small chunk out, but want to leave a good portion in if the DD is favorable. I really think this has $100+ possibilities. If Rufi is really pulling cold hard assests out and the company is really worth that much I want to stay invested, everything is pointing that way. but what do you suggest for the short term investment covering and a little extra, college expenses and all. I've never been in anything like this before, shoot, most here haveen't:) IMA
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: oh sorry guys, i was busy trying on my new outfit...
haha... Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by sceptor: In case you guys havent seen this yet. LOL
what the?? lol!! good stuff man
Posted by luvforever on :
Good morning all...Here's to good news and a green day, a giant green day! glta Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by luvforever: Good morning all...Here's to good news and a green day, a giant green day! glta
Almost sounds like a green bean commercial! LOL
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Morning all. Busy night on the board I see. I missed all the fun hope we see a continuation of yesterday.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: From Platalk....take with grain of salt....
sweetsplat: I do not know for sure that this information is absulutely 100% accurate sweetsplat: the guy that gave me this infomation has called the last 5 PR's sweetsplat: and he was accurate 2 the hour..... Trout31: Sweetsplat.... Hold on.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! sweetsplat: within 10 hours, I believe Trout31: This is "PALTALK .... BREAKING NEWS!" ... I reporter in the Field ....Sweetsplat ....has been working on this story.... all day....... Sweetsplat... are you there ...! sweetsplat: here it is: sweetsplat: In the next two days CHSD will reveal the name of the trust and where it is located (the bank) for confimation by independent parties. In addition, the goal with these and other PR's is to increase the pps to approximately $2 before the release of the 10K and S-4. I could not get a firm time frame of EOD, or noon sweetsplat: tomorrow. However, it is iminent and dependent on the pps. All issues related to FHAL "under the table, payola" agreements have been settled. This is the week. This should be what we have all been waiting for.
take it for what its worth, but the person who is saying this has also called last 5 prs
Something to keep in mind.........
Posted by dog on :
Morning all... sorry.. I have enough on my mind, though the guy has called a few things before...
we'll see
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I guess we'll see when we see.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I guess we'll see when we see.
Truer words have not been said... Did I spell "truer" correctly???
Posted by dog on :
MM's trying to put resistance up on L2's
Posted by djg7 on :
Premarket Bid 1.17 Ask 1.15
Posted by Chartwalker on :
well, it's a rumor worth noting... IMO I mean it's one thing to guess a PR,... it's another thing to guess 2-3 Pr's... But 5 in a row?
""IF"" that is true then we have ourselves a "deepthroat." Must work there...
Wow, a juicy factual PR PLUS the squeeze... Yep Rufus planned this ""if"" this is the case.
Deepthroat did say "PR's" notice, plural sense
""If"" that's true, fire up the grill and put the beers on ice!! We have a SHOw to watch! lol ~
Hope so, for all our sakes ~ Posted by dog on :
Heya Chart... where do you think the upwrd resistance threshold is?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Heya Chart... where do you think the upwrd resistance threshold is?
Chart don't get me wrong I'll be looking for the pr's. I hope we get them. Here's a thought If Rufus is doing this now trying to get the pps above $2 and maintain that price. Just a guess here but if that happens I don't think we would see the 10k until 9/30 and then a direct move to NASDAQ maybe. He would've satisfied the pps of $2 or more for 30 days requirement. Just some speculation, but isn't that what we are here for.
Posted by dog on :
Looks good eh?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Ryan/dog, things look great ~
I'm not going to agree with that poster.. "but" the guy does seem to know things... And Ryan my opinion is actually more like what you think. I didn't think we would see it till at least the 15th of next month...
So we will see.
Posted by 10of13 on :
Resistance? If it doesn't fall...about 1.20-.22 IMO...
Posted by dog on :
He's really makin us work for da payola, no?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Hey all, I have a friend that wants in this this morning. I'm not at my own computer and don't ahave access to L2's can you keep me up to date on them so I can help him with an entry point. 10 of 13, if you're there, you're great at day trades, do you have any suggestions Ima
Posted by Igor R on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Chart don't get me wrong I'll be looking for the pr's. I hope we get them. Here's a thought If Rufus is doing this now trying to get the pps above $2 and maintain that price. Just a guess here but if that happens I don't think we would see the 10k until 9/30 and then a direct move to NASDAQ maybe. He would've satisfied the pps of $2 or more for 30 days requirement. Just some speculation, but isn't that what we are here for.
I thought I read that it was $4 consecutively for 30 days. Maybe not then.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
"Good" Morning all!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
A gap down to 1.14 doesnt scare me much, so far so good. If the buying pressure is still there it should be a nice bounce. I really want to see more of what we saw yesterday afternoon. Posted by 10of13 on :
Imapoor...might want to wait and see what this does...right now it is gapping down.. b/1.14 a/1.15...after the first 30 minutes...see what it's doing...IMO
If "he" is just going long..doesn't much care about a few pennies...put in a buy at 1.15...
Posted by dog on :
1.18
Posted by dog on :
LOL... hey Chart... check out the low ask garbage... 1.14-1.1699? Gimme a break....
Posted by dog on :
Nice try fellas...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
bid at 1.10 ask at 1.13
Posted by Chartwalker on :
look again and laugh harder... Be a good time to buy on a bounce, gaps like to fill!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I hope they gap it down a bit... I am looking for some more today. Posted by 10of13 on :
b/1.10 a/1.11
Posted by dog on :
Bet 1.18 pops with the quickness....
Posted by RichBy26 on :
1.10x1.11 lol, these guys really want shares!
Posted by dog on :
Fightin for float at the lowest price?
Posted by cassity on :
Boy they are try'n HARD!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
1.07?!?! Grrr
Posted by RyanPBF on :
These guys Suck.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: These guys Suck.
Yes, they do. But, im not sure they can play this very long
Posted by $$$bill on :
what the hell?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Imapoor...what did you decide? b/1.02 a/1.03
Posted by 10of13 on :
After "giving it a thought"...not sure yesterday's run wasn't a trick...have peeps sell into a "fake run"...and bring it down in the am... I didn't sell yesterday because I didn't want to be "out" if any news came...but I had every intention on selling this am...
Posted by ruthie on :
Hopefully, yesterday was not a trick run. Looking for an upward swing by noon...
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
I appreciate all the help. my freind was just setting up is account in time and it turns out his bank is not set up to do elecronic transfers. Grrrr. So he could not get in. It was a down to the wire thing anyways. Hopefully he'll be able to get one set up before this thing resets. He just want's to put in a couple hundred dollas worth. Thank you all so much and screw shorty and dirty mm's!!! Love ya'll Thanks also 10
Posted by 10of13 on :
trying to bounce...
Posted by Igor R on :
and now it comes back w00t.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
shake over, here we go!! wweeeeee
Posted by RyanPBF on :
did you see a bunch of 200 share mirror trades at 1.03 1.04
Posted by 10of13 on :
Anybody grab some?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Mornin gang!!!
Looks like those Blastards are not done with the games after all...
My L2's are out at the moment...can someone post b/a please ...
1.01 should be fair support...if it hasn't blown through it already
Posted by RichBy26 on :
i grabed a few at 1.01!!!
Posted by P Rowds on :
picked some up at 1.05 and filled in 10sec...
Posted by 10of13 on :
b/1.01 a/ 1.02
Posted by NEL on :
MORE AT 1.03...
Posted by cassity on :
In the famous words of Ricky Bobby, "Shake and Bake"!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
maybe we can play the "have the mm's chase us" game again today. Dog, how about you bat 4th and hit a grand slam. let's go green!
Posted by casviper on :
168,000 shares sent this down .17... This makes no sense. even if they were all sells, which they were not, this should not be the case. whats up??
Posted by SherriT on :
Are Chart and/or Maumee here yet? Wondered what the support and resistance levels are....
Posted by dog on :
Thinkin about sellin and rebuyin but not worth it yet
Posted by ww2player on :
hiya guys.. I finaly registered on this board.
Just wanted to say hi and to tell DOG nice job on the buy at .94 yesterday. Someone had to get the ball rollin.. lol
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I have old Res now support at 1.04 and 1.13 (old post)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey ww2 ~ Posted by 10of13 on :
Welcome ww2....and goodluck!
Posted by SherriT on :
Thanks Chart!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
welcome aboard ww2
Posted by Sandusky on :
Here we go again...buys going through above the ask...same as yesterday.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
moving up pretty good here. Something up?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
fill that gap baby!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
Whooo Hoooo...C'mon Baby!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: fill that gap baby!!!
i'm gonna leave that comment alone, lol...
Morning all...
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
so where is the next resistance? between 1.18 and 1.22 or so?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
just bought 35 shares at 1.12! above the ask! Alright let's roll!
Posted by cassity on :
Picked up a nice CHUNK at 1.01!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Some reason when it runs up like this all I can hear in my head is the theme song to the Jeffersons.
Posted by Vin on :
Nice grab at 1.01. I doubt many saw .99.
Posted by SherriT on :
I bought 350 * 1.12....took it quickly too
Posted by ruthie on :
Whoo Hoo!!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Long term support...( daily chart) at around .84 then mid .70's
Intraday support at.94 and will be lower EOD
Not much for resistance untill 1.19 or so
Posted by Chartwalker on :
fyi.. I'm having all kinds of connection issues, forgive me if I don't reply, I may be knocked off! $%#*!!!
Gotta fix this before re-set!!! lol ~
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Maybe we didn't want to talk to ya anyway walker...
Posted by SherriT on :
See what happens when I buy? It goes DOWN - but hey, I have more shares...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Maybe we didn't want to talk to ya anyway walker...
so sweet...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Maybe we didn't want to talk to ya anyway walker...
sniff....sniff.... (_!_) <--kiss this ratman! ha!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
By the way .... This could go as low as ...say.... .67 this morning without Fing up the long term support... By EOD that same support line will be in the .74 range..
Just thought I would throw that in...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
looking at the chart you may want to go on a diet lol j/k
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Maybe we didn't want to talk to ya anyway walker...
sniff....sniff.... (_!_) <--kiss this ratman! ha!
lol
Posted by RyanPBF on :
the momentum stops and so does the board.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yep...
Posted by SherriT on :
Lunch Time Lull is coming early it looks like...
Posted by dog on :
Back to the stalemate...except for top of the hour, noon, and EOD.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
here is some action...1.07 about to go...
seems to be moving up at a snails pace...i'll take that for the time being...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
hanging tough ~
Posted by trade04 on :
Do any of you have tinnitus? PM me if you do.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Where is yesterday's buying pressure...? psssssssssssssssssssssst*
good strength though.
Posted by P Rowds on :
i have tinitus... constant ringing when quiet... yeah...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
TINNITUS ti-NIGHT-us or TIN-i-tus: the perception of sound in the ears or head where no external source is present. Both pronunciations are correct; the American Tinnitus Association uses ti-NIGHT-us. The word comes from Latin and means "to tinkle or to ring like a bell."
haha...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
right now L2's look pretty thin if we get over 1.09
Posted by portman on :
SLow and steady....that's what we want.
Buying pressure might be waiting on an announcement. Dunno.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: Where is yesterday's buying pressure...? psssssssssssssssssssssst*
good strength though.
Did anyone notice all the premarket buys at 1.17?!!
Does anyone think MM's may have grabbed them an ran the price down hoping for a sell off but it failed?... Cause we started right back up again after that bottom..
???
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
movin on up...MOOOOOVIN ON UP...albeit sloooow...
but like they say...slow and steady wins the race...
Posted by Vin on :
Good to see 1.10 at the ask again.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
looks like that upward momentum is still there imo ~ Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
If this is lunchtime lull i cant wait to see the EDO!
WTF was that?!?! Where did that 1.17 come from?!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
500 at 1.17...wierd...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I was just going to say that crab nice .07 jump over the ask
Posted by new2stocks on :
$1.17 a fat finger maybe?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
hey was that dog doing his thing again! 1.17 ha ~ jk ~
Posted by trade04 on :
also if anyone has any tips for Coping/lessening the effects of TINNITUS. please PM me with your suggestions. I already quit smoking for the time being to see if my contricted blood vessels (causes from smoking) has an effect on me.
TIA.
Posted by Vin on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: also if anyone has any tips for Coping/lessening the effects of TINNITUS. please PM me with your suggestions. I already quit smoking for the time being to see if my contricted blood vessels (causes from smoking) has an effect on me.
TIA.
Did you try ata.org?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
trade04.... FYI --mailbox full
Posted by dog on :
wow
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
that was a biggie...
Posted by Vin on :
Can't see it from here...what happened?
Posted by dog on :
60k buy 1.0465
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
60k at 1.0465 although it could have been a group of trades averaged together with a price like that...
Posted by Vin on :
Not to quote you, but wow.
Posted by dog on :
Somebody put $62,760 in on a scam....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Somebody put $62,760 in on a scam....
riiiiiiiiight ~ Posted by dog on :
LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus just bought the float! jk ~~~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
has anyone checked out the cuckoo's nest over at ihub.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Ihub... -what is the "joke of the day" there?..
Posted by staretsky55 on :
Yes, Our-Street has "proof" of an SEC investigation but won't share it
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by staretsky55: Yes, Our-Street has "proof" of an SEC investigation but won't share it
oh, so they want more shares huh?! LOL!!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by staretsky55: Yes, Our-Street has "proof" of an SEC investigation but won't share it
How can you claim that you "have proof" and then not share the proof?
And I wouldn't doubt that there is some sort of SEC investigation...the sho list is a type of investigation...isn't it?
Posted by staretsky55 on :
OH, the games people play...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
First, that's our streets job is to "inform" If ANYBODY has something they would be viewed as a SAVIOR!!
Instant Cult following! ha ~ BS...
Hey I know where Elvis is living! Deposit $25 U.S. dollars in my paypal account and......
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey gang!!!!
If we can get a pop over 1.25+.....
It would be very, very GOOOOD!!!!!
Next stop 1.70
Indicaters are lookin HOT...
could be commin' to a neighborhood near you soon!!!
Lets eat some MM's Posted by laker08 on :
errr that 60k was a sell not a buy...
Posted by 10of13 on :
Maumee...have you ever thought of getting into the advertising business?
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by laker08: errr that 60k was a sell not a buy...
actually it was just a trade below the ask...remember...these are two sided transactions...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Gunna get some profit taken here and there... If that 60k was purchased around the lows last week...ca-ching!!! There's the gas money for the yacht...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Maumee...have you ever thought of getting into the advertising business?
Tried modeling underware once.....no good.. Posted by laker08 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by laker08: errr that 60k was a sell not a buy...
actually it was just a trade below the ask...remember...these are two sided transactions...
no i'm preety sure it was a sell. who could buy at that price when the ba level was higher...common now.. i have microcap i know when it's a sell or buy....
Posted by 10of13 on :
I could have loaned you my strap on....that might have helped...
Posted by BooDog on :
?????????????????
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: ?????????????????
LMAO...sorry Boo...just never mind..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I could have loaned you my strap on....that might have helped...
LOL
hey !!! Don't get freaked if this makes a test run for the .90 area...
It could happen...and will more than likely be the MM's last...or close to last attempt to shake out some shares...
If it doesn't work for them, it was worth the risk for them to try...
I would think that they are more than willing to risk .15 -.20 cents ... much better than covering at 10 or 20 bucks...
just a thought...
Like I said earlier.... This can get to the low 70's high 60's area, without blowen the charts apart,....
Should be a fun ride...
The market that is....(not the strap-on)
Posted by dog on :
took 15 minutes to buy at 1.06
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by laker08:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by laker08: errr that 60k was a sell not a buy...
actually it was just a trade below the ask...remember...these are two sided transactions...
no i'm preety sure it was a sell. who could buy at that price when the ba level was higher...common now.. i have microcap i know when it's a sell or buy....
IMO...most of us "read" too much into the L2's...trades go through that are never printed...as we saw yesterday from the peeps on here that claim they bought and it never showed on L2's...and then sometimes there will be a large "order print" and it will be below the b/a and it thows us all off...it is sometimes just a lump of trades that went through earlier in the day that is now "printed"...regardless...if there is a "sell"...then there is a "buy"...
Posted by BooDog on :
I saw what you were talking about LOL I haven't been playing this one, just watching. You caught me off guard there for a sec.
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by laker08: errr that 60k was a sell not a buy...
How do you know it was a sell? Where do you see that information?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Buy/sell stuff.... hmmm.
If I sell and there isn't a buyer, then I don't get a sell... So how did that "sell" go through without a buyer? One has to be with the other, otherwise I'd sell mine right now at $54 a share right?
Before you tell me I'm wrong, I was talking this over with New2stocks, They called Scottrade and they said there isn't an indicator for "buys" or "sells" and that they are one. A MM can split and match and resize and whatever, but there isn't JUST a BUY or JUST a SELL.
How can you buy if there is no seller? Or sell if there is no buyer?... Figure that out and I'll sell mine right now for $54!!
"Call your broker"
That's as plain as I can put it ~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by laker08:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab:
quote:Originally posted by laker08:
IMO...most of us "read" too much into the L2's...trades go through that are never printed...as we saw yesterday from the peeps on here that claim they bought and it never showed on L2's...and then sometimes there will be a large "order print" and it will be below the b/a and it thows us all off...it is sometimes just a lump of trades that went through earlier in the day that is now "printed"...regardless...if there is a "sell"...then there is a "buy"...
haha...which is what i said as soon as it was printed...
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Buy/sell stuff.... hmmm.
If I sell and there isn't a buyer, then I don't get a sell... So how did that "sell" go through without a buyer? One has to be with the other, otherwise I'd sell mine right now at $54 a share right?
Before you tell me I'm wrong, I was talking this over with New2stocks, They called Scottrade and they said there isn't an indicator for "buys" or "sells" and that they are one. A MM can split and match and resize and whatever, but there isn't JUST a BUY or JUST a SELL.
How can you buy if there is no seller? Or sell if there is no buyer?... Figure that out and I'll sell mine right now for $54!!
"Call your broker"
That's as plain as I can put it ~
That's all we mean laker... could have been an MM soaking up the shares... but they were still bought and paid for...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
It's called a "Zero sum game"
Forv every penny gained....there was a penny lost by someone....
then you have to factor in the naked shorts.....SQUEEEEEEEZZZZ!!!haaaa-ha-ha-ha
Posted by P Rowds on :
hey trade... can't pm u. your box is full
Posted by Chartwalker on :
What are you squeezing now rat? lol ~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I don't like it when NITE is on the bid and ask
Posted by dog on :
The problem with trying to flip right now is that sells are zinging thru.... buys take along time and sometimes require 2 cents above ask.... just like yesterday. A little buying pressure and this will hop, skip, and jump upward...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: What are you squeezing now rat? lol ~
need more fiber......,
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I don't like it when NITE is on the bid and ask
Has to be covering those nakie's Posted by RyanPBF on :
seems like it.
Posted by dog on :
Mirror trades again...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: What are you squeezing now rat? lol ~
chart...buddy..."he" really needs no type of "help" in the "smart~a$$ comment department"... However I have noticed that you are very close to the same department...
Posted by cassity on :
Looks like we have some major bid support building!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
should bee gettin some movement around 12:30 or so....
just a hunch....
Ithink I see sumpthin in the chart
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: should bee gettin some movement around 12:30 or so....
just a hunch....
Ithink I see sumpthin in the chart
so ya got that fiber?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: What are you squeezing now rat? lol ~
chart...buddy..."he" really needs no type of "help" in the "smart~a$$ comment department"... However I have noticed that you are very close to the same department...
lol ~ Sure beats watching this flatline we have going here!
I only give'em cause I can take'em... it all in fun Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: What are you squeezing now rat? lol ~
chart...buddy..."he" really needs no type of "help" in the "smart~a$$ comment department"... However I have noticed that you are very close to the same department...
Rookie!!!
he has potential however....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I was wonderin' if you would pick-up on that word,,LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Movement" "Fiber" "Pump and Dump"
What kind of board is this?!!!
-how was that rat?... Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: I was wonderin' if you would pick-up on that word,,LOL
I'm the "head of the department"...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
eh!!!!![tips hand left and right]
Posted by maumee river rat on :
The Fiber dept.?
or the Movement dept?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: "Movement" "Fiber" "Pump and Dump"
What kind of board is this?!!!
-how was that rat?...
Throw in the Thongs from last night as a strainer and this board get's downright disturbing. Did I mention that I love it here.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Who does #2 work for?" -Austin Powers...
Posted by glassman on :
today? you guys would fit right in at junior high.
i don't wanna grow up either Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: eh!!!!![tips hand left and right]
Isn't that spousal abuse?
Posted by P Rowds on :
trade... i hafta run, on lunch right now... but this is what i was gonna pm you back. sorry all for posting "nonrelative" material here...
had it for a while now(tinnitus)... in my work i'm around alot of blowers to keep our high power amplifiers cooled off... but it really hasn't gotten worse... my hearing is great, above average. it's just when i'm in a really quiet room or when i go to bed it's a loud ringing in my ears... you get used to it after a while. and as i said, don't worry bout the hearing loss unless you have significantly lost it with it. probably go to a doctor then. also, if you get dizzy or... i can't remember. i actually went to a doctor for it. if it's just ringing don't worry about it, unless it's unbearable of course... dunno how bad your case is
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: today? you guys would fit right in at junior high.
i don't wanna grow either
I'm not sure that we would make it to that high of a "class"
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: "Who does #2 work for?" -Austin Powers...
I think so...
Either that or Charmin toilet tissue,, (think about it)
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
Oooh...Oooh! (not uh, uh). Just checked pinksheets dot com, There are 5 articles out today. Looks like we are really getting noticed now! Had to spell the last 2 out..
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Posted by Chartwalker on :
One thing in the market is ALWAYS for sure... Toilet tissue companies are always touching new bottoms...
rat, you'd be a "short" play on top of that!!! ha!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
jeese after all of this i'm just glad no one mentioned 10 showing off her mighty bulge with one of those thongs from last night...there could of been trouble with all that fiber intake and all... Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, who stopped pushing?! It never reached my 1.03 HOD!!
Maumee did...it's his age...no stamina left
No man can compete with a "strap-on"10...
Especialy a well varnished one!!!
I know 10 liked this one! LOL!!
"how do ya like me now!! lol ~~~~~
Posted by laker08 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Buy/sell stuff.... hmmm.
If I sell and there isn't a buyer, then I don't get a sell... So how did that "sell" go through without a buyer? One has to be with the other, otherwise I'd sell mine right now at $54 a share right?
Before you tell me I'm wrong, I was talking this over with New2stocks, They called Scottrade and they said there isn't an indicator for "buys" or "sells" and that they are one. A MM can split and match and resize and whatever, but there isn't JUST a BUY or JUST a SELL.
How can you buy if there is no seller? Or sell if there is no buyer?... Figure that out and I'll sell mine right now for $54!!
"Call your broker"
That's as plain as I can put it ~
gotcha! i stand corrected on that. i was referring to a sell meaning it caused the pps to do down, and buys as pps sideways or up. thats' what i meant, but yea let's just drop it...
Posted by trade04 on :
"looks" like we may have a run EOD if 1.04 holds imo
Posted by 10of13 on :
CHART!!!??? OK...You have now moved to the "head" of the department... Maumee...you're fired!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
No NO NO!!!
He can't take the throne by using someone elses material,,,
Try again grasshopper...
Posted by stocktrader22 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: took 15 minutes to buy at 1.06
That's total BS...filled instantly for me at 1.06
Posted by Chartwalker on :
the student takes the Master with his own sword! Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by stocktrader22:
quote:Originally posted by dog: took 15 minutes to buy at 1.06
That's total BS...filled instantly for me at 1.06
-well, this is a slower part of the day...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: No NO NO!!!
He can't take the throne by using someone elses material,,,
Try again grasshopper...
Um Yeah...I could feel the vibration of the "foot stomping"...
Here's a Kleenex...Blow!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: the student takes the Master with his own sword!
You shouldn't play with sharp things... and don't choke on that bean grasshopper..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
LOL don't think so 10!!!!
P.S.
Don't you have some wood to wax,or somethin?? Posted by Chartwalker on :
hey rat the last couple of days I was running these levels of sup/res. Res 1.13 1.04 .85 Sup .71 .56 .43
I believe you "draw" the levels right? I use software that averages in how many times it was hit plus volume bla- bla...
Where would your Res/sup have fallen?...
Which seems "better" -if you will...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Gotta take care of sumpthin for a few minutes walker... Good question....I'll compare it in a few and post...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
Does it look to anyone that they're holding this at 1.06 even though it seems that we've had enough volume at 1.06 to move ahead. Seems like they did this yesterday at like .93 or .96 I believe
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: LOL don't think so 10!!!!
P.S.
Don't you have some wood to wax,or somethin??
Nope...you pretty much had it all polished up when you gave it back... You're pretty good at that...must have taken years to "master" that???
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Does it look to anyone that they're holding this at 1.06 even though it seems that we've had enough volume at 1.06 to move ahead. Seems like they did this yesterday at like .93 or .96 I believe
They haven't done that "dance" thing...like yesterday...the bid/ask kept going "even" remember?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
You took it back 10. I hope you treated it before using it again. Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: LOL don't think so 10!!!!
P.S.
Don't you have some wood to wax,or somethin??
Nope...you pretty much had it all polished up when you gave it back... You're pretty good at that...must have taken years to "master" that???
"MASTER!!!!" [bow down...] lol ~~
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: Does it look to anyone that they're holding this at 1.06 even though it seems that we've had enough volume at 1.06 to move ahead. Seems like they did this yesterday at like .93 or .96 I believe
YEP YEP
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: You took it back 10. I hope you treated it before using it again.
that's what that "blue shampoo" was for...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
and ya'll have come full circle...
they'll be here all week...try the buffet...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
You're right forgot all about that lol
Posted by 10of13 on :
movin' up...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: LOL don't think so 10!!!!
P.S.
Don't you have some wood to wax,or somethin??
Nope...you pretty much had it all polished up when you gave it back... You're pretty good at that...must have taken years to "master" that???
"MASTER!!!!" [bow down...] lol ~~
It took a long time, and a chit load of solvent to clean it up too, 10....
You might want to see a doctor about that..
Yuch!!!!!
It should slide much nicer for you now,,,
Your welcome!! Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO... You're still fired!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
This is going to turn into one of those Penthouse letters. I know this sounds amazing but this is a true story ...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
LMAO!........ ~~~~
Posted by new2stocks on :
trade04, I cannot pm you...empty your mailbox
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
this is how it's gonna start...
You see it was a regular tuesday...then this engineer friend of mine had an extra conveyor...this housewife we all knew had an "itch"...well the engineer friend attached...
And so on and so forth... Posted by trade04 on :
oh no wonder no1 has been pming me back! SORRY
go ahead now
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: this is how it's gonna start...
You see it was a regular tuesday...then this engineer friend of mine had an extra conveyor...this housewife we all knew had an "itch"...well the engineer friend attached...
And so on and so forth...
Are you saying that Maumee is a "housewife"?
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks: trade04, I cannot pm you...empty your mailbox
i emptied my sent box not thinking, but i just emptied my in box
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
not sposed to tell 10, lol...
Posted by timlaniryankristen on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: also if anyone has any tips for Coping/lessening the effects of TINNITUS. please PM me with your suggestions. I already quit smoking for the time being to see if my contricted blood vessels (causes from smoking) has an effect on me.
TIA.
avoid aspirin and any NSAID's, i have also heard second hand that acupuncture has some success FWIW
Posted by glassman on :
some people take this seriously: i dunno i never tried it
heehee: Uh-huh. Not that I'd ever doubt the Teeming Millions, but I prefer to conduct my own experiments. Ear candling is the latest New Age fad, being to the 90s what colonic irrigation was to the 80s. Colonic irrigation was never a procedure I was inclined to investigate close up. But with ear candles I figured, how bad can it be? Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: this is how it's gonna start...
You see it was a regular tuesday...then this engineer friend of mine had an extra conveyor...this housewife we all knew had an "itch"...well the engineer friend attached...
And so on and so forth...
Are you saying that Maumee is a "housewife"?
"Show me on the doll where tha bad man touched you..." lol ~
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: some people take this seriously: i dunno i never tried it
or you can go to the doc and have him irrigate the wax out of your ear......
Posted by 10of13 on :
Trade...go to the doctor...I'm not sure about that candle and ear stuff...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
ARCA's been very quiet today
Posted by P Rowds on :
the ear candles... IMO and experience, won't do anything for your tinnitus... i've had it for a few years but like i said, it kinda "grows" on you. soon you won't even notice it. the candles generally removed pollen and excess wax out of the ears(and yes pollen... ears are connected to nose and throat, in case someone was going to think i was an idiot) wax looks like wax and pollen is the clumped up substance that looks like a bumble bee's ass;)
Posted by portman on :
I still think that was a MM trick with the premarket shares... Otherwise we would have kept slowly trading up, but they were able to bring it back down but with no naked shorts, she'll slowly work her way up again ~
So I still am of the school of thought that we are indeed in the squeeze.
EOD IMO should be VERY interesting again today with the rumors and with what Rufus said about "getting info" on the naked shorts Tuesday or Wednesday...
I am expecting somekind of PR about something soon, I can just taste it!!!
(don't go there rat....)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: pollen is the clumped up substance that looks like a bumble bee's ass;)
"How did you get their little legs apart to look?..." lmao ~
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: this is how it's gonna start...
You see it was a regular tuesday...then this engineer friend of mine had an extra conveyor...this housewife we all knew had an "itch"...well the engineer friend attached...
And so on and so forth...
Are you saying that Maumee is a "housewife"?
"Show me on the doll where tha bad man touched you..." lol ~
You ASSUME it was a MAN?
Posted by 10of13 on :
1.08...like yesterday...this is getting frustrating.... 1.08 going once, going twice....
Posted by P Rowds on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by P Rowds: pollen is the clumped up substance that looks like a bumble bee's ass;)
"How did you get their little legs apart to look?..." lmao ~
LMAO!!! chopsticks and duct tape:D
Posted by Chartwalker on :
too funny P Rowds!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: 1.08...like yesterday...this is getting frustrating.... 1.08 going once, going twice....
Actuaaly 10, isn't this kind of set up what we had yesterday then it broke loose?..
I think so... and EOD is a coming!
Posted by glassman on :
OK lessee what else we can talk about today?
where do you guys hide your boogers?
(never, ever touch the underside of a desk in any school for kids)
Posted by RyanPBF on :
on l2 what are there like 1500 shares up for sale at 1.08 about 8k shares have traded at 1.08 and the l2 line up hasn't changed. I don't know if I'm reading the l2's correct or not.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: OK lessee what else we can talk about today?
where do you guys hide your boogers?
(never, ever touch the underside of a desk in any school for kids)
So we have been placed back to 4th grade? LOL
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'm having a hell of a time squeezing into those desks.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I'm having a hell of a time squeezing into those desks.
Because of all the boogers?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hey Glass? those "rules" that you posted yesterday? What were they from?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I can't tell I would figure the crusty's would slow me down but the slimey one's would again in the squeazing required to get my big self in those little desks. So I'd have to say my desk is loaded up with crusties. lol
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: hey rat the last couple of days I was running these levels of sup/res. Res 1.13 1.04 .85 Sup .71 .56 .43
I believe you "draw" the levels right? I use software that averages in how many times it was hit plus volume bla- bla...
Where would your Res/sup have fallen?...
Which seems "better" -if you will...
I use a lot of differant things when I really choose to rip up a chart...
I never really liked to use those "canned" programs for doing a final look
They give to much of an INFLEXABLE outcome..
Support and resistance is an ever adjusting thing between major swings..IMO
It's all about Price and Time.. and price is alway more important than time..
If you are using a Fib. retracement as a focal point....um....as a firm target price....you limit yourself to a small area of flexability on the chart,,,,this is tough to explain...bare with me...
The chart is an ever evolving thing...It's alive....By drawing support and resistance you alow for the adjustment of price and time....the price may not ever hit your Fib. number, but will get close on a shorter term chart..It always adjusts itself through out the day ...
Filter your firm, "canned" numbers on a long term chart...compare them with shorter term support or resistance hits, to more clearly identify true turning points in the market (take out some of the noise, if you will)or to see if the "canned" numbers you are using are still valid..
I like to use a division ratio compass for figuring out my retracement levels (old school) I print out my chart and do it the old fashion way,,,( can't help it..lol...old dog new trick thing)..
I find that it lets me get a little more in tune to the finger print of the chart..
Think of your support and resistance lines like this ... Remember ...PRICE and TIME,,,,
A pefect charting of price and time would be a support or resistance line that is running on a 45 degree angle.. (the perfect trend line) Find the trend line......Draw your support and resistance lines off significant turning points on the chart... look for areas of convergence of the lines...Wa-Lah!!! price and time have come togeather.....(in a perfect world).
Your numbers of res. 1.13 minor res today 1.04 out of play IMO .85 is now minor support
Sup. .71 will be support towards EOD >56 and .43 are out of play..
Hope this made some kind of sence...Much easier to show than tell..
Good Luck
Posted by 10of13 on :
OMG...what is wrong with all of us?
On that subject... When this started "the general opinion" of Rufas was "truck driver" or something along thos lines... Last night, I saw a news "clip" on Bush...and it hit me...he really isn't much different than what our President is...
Posted by dog on :
????
Rufus for President?
If he makes me a millionaire... I'd vote for him just to say thanks... especially if I'm still holding CSHD.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
please don't say that 10. I don't think that'll inspire tons of confidence in Rufus's IQ Posted by 10of13 on :
Thanks Maumee...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
are we looking at a dip coming up?
Posted by lostone on :
i doubt there will much of a dip at this point.. unless we jump a lot..
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey Glass? those "rules" that you posted yesterday? What were they from?
That 1.04 resistance level you talked of may still have a little support value to it....actualy....more like 1.05 ( splittin hairs there.. LOL )
may even close there..
Posted by trade04 on :
i think we will close 1.10-1.15 imo
Posted by RyanPBF on :
goodluck guys. I'm about to start my drive home. That's where I was yesterday when this started to take off. Hopefully it'll trigger it again
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Holy cow rat... Was that you version or "War and Peace" ha ~
I'm sure everyone here benefited from that, BIG thanks!
I'm from that side of the river too, in fact I may even have told some here in PM's about charts "living" -just in case some thought I was nuts! ha ~~ Think you said it better.
The numbers quoted were daily, not intraday, and from last week, just wondered where this fancy pantz charting tool fell against the old school rule.
Their "calculations" are supposed to take into consideration "everything" according to them, -and they have been pretty good, I posted them and they seemed to be right on as we bounced off them a couple times in pages past when you were gone. [nice to have ya back btw]
Being a flipper at heart I wanted something faster then fast, that was why I gave up paper.
What got me to question the software is that we have laid down a nice flat line at the 1.05 and 1.06 but the software says it should be 1.04... Bet because it was there on the run up and down.
Maybe I'm trying to "fine-tune" too much, but I'm always trying to "sharpen the pencil" tweak here and there, but... maybe like you said, "In a perfect world."
Guess my 1 cent off isn't too bad for all the work of one click
Thanks rat... That was excellent! Always nice chatting with the real deal Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok folks, ive been waiting ALL DAY for this particular 90 minutes of the day. Ive built up adrenaline already so if nothing happens im gonna have to go fight a bull or something after work.
Posted by trade04 on :
hmmmm how about a punching bag. Might be safer...
yesturdays run started around 2:50 so i'm also anticipating something
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Nothing... hmmmm
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
oh maybe something... Posted by dog on :
Hey ... it tried to move...LOL
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok, lets loosin' the reigns and let her run. Again, today....i give my persmission. Posted by Chartwalker on :
Something is up with my computer, can't pull up my charting stuff so I can't help ya....
Crashes when I do.... Anyone care to PM with help? Tried Scan Disc and defragging...
SOB!!!!!!!!!
Posted by dog on :
Look at them build the resistance...hehe
Posted by SherriT on :
Chart - how is your diskspace and your temporary tables? Do you have a bunch in your cache? Just ideas...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Chart - how is your diskspace and your temporary tables? Do you have a bunch in your cache? Just ideas...
Going over all that now, temp internet files and clean up.. doing the works!
Or at least what I know to do thx!
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Hey Glass? those "rules" that you posted yesterday? What were they from?
quote:"Another solution is to say that all prices would be adjusted by the access fee. To do that, we'd have to trade in sub-penny increments," adds Harris, who suggests that is unlikely.
doh...we have computers, now...
what a mess; no real surprise, though...
Posted by SherriT on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Chart - how is your diskspace and your temporary tables? Do you have a bunch in your cache? Just ideas...
Going over all that now, temp internet files and clean up.. doing the works!
Or at least what I know to do thx!
If you keep having problems, crash it again (sorry) and send me any errors you might have (or any behavior that might help me diagnose it... some of it I know, and the rest I can walk about 5 feet and ask some gurus...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Chart - how is your diskspace and your temporary tables? Do you have a bunch in your cache? Just ideas...
Going over all that now, temp internet files and clean up.. doing the works!
Or at least what I know to do thx!
If you keep having problems, crash it again (sorry) and send me any errors you might have (or any behavior that might help me diagnose it... some of it I know, and the rest I can walk about 5 feet and ask some gurus...
Whoa! way thx!!
I'll dive into it tonight and see what I can come up with, -if anything. Then PM ya!
Posted by SherriT on :
Any thoughts why we are getting buys above the ask now? (the 1.08 printed when the bid was on .06 and ask on .07)
Posted by djg7 on :
Here we go!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Here weee gooo...!
Posted by $$$bill on :
let's go for a EOD little jogging
Posted by RichBy26 on :
just got back from a round at the links!! looks like we're about to take off again:)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yep it's here!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
need to close that gap yet!
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Resistance, is futile.
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
whoops! I walked away for 5 minutes and something is up. Can we go up now? Posted by RichBy26 on :
I think these buys could be one of the BIG investors that approached Rufus to try to get in for million of shares at these levels, before the reset. JMO
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Could make sense Rich. The dude waits for a the day to dip and then start buying another big chunk eod???
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Resistance, is futile.
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
or dudet My bad props to the ladies here!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
never realized how much I depend on my charts now that I don't have them!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
not missing much presently...
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: or dudet My bad props to the ladies here!
LOL...it's dude Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: not missing much presently...
Stochastic default setting... how LOW is it on the indicator?...
Posted by trade04 on :
giddy up
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
well that run was rather disappointing.
Sooooo, lets see. Instead, lets have a nice little PR around 3:30 to close out the day for us. Something simple, ya know...."Conversion solutions updates its shareholders blah blah yada yada". Thats all i want.
Posted by trade04 on :
OT: can all you rate me a please. i have like 62 votes and two stars. id like at least 3 stars. how many 5-ratings will it take?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: OT: can all you rate me a please. i have like 62 votes and two stars. id like at least 3 stars. how many 5-ratings will it take?
Just turn the darn thing off...they are "over rated"... I mean look at chart..he has 4...and you know he doesn't deserve them...j/k
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: well that run was rather disappointing.
Sooooo, lets see. Instead, lets have a nice little PR around 3:30 to close out the day for us. Something simple, ya know...."Conversion solutions updates its shareholders blah blah yada yada". Thats all i want.
still 40 minutes left
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
zero i suppose chart...i'm not to sure i'm reading it right though?
sorry i'm a dummy...4.886
Posted by cassity on :
I think NITE just wanted to fill their order! NOT over yet!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: OT: can all you rate me a please. i have like 62 votes and two stars. id like at least 3 stars. how many 5-ratings will it take?
Just turn the darn thing off...they are "over rated...
Yea, you tell off one basher and poof youve been 1 starred. Its kinda useless
Posted by Chartwalker on :
crab. Stochastic should have two lines, if they are laying at the bottom GREAT! Oversold that means! Then look at macd, has it been going down and starting to look up? If so GREAT!
Watch Stochastic, watch the ANGLE of the cross UP, that will tell you tahe strength of the upcoming run... -if there is one ~
Posted by a surfer on :
here it comes
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: OT: can all you rate me a please. i have like 62 votes and two stars. id like at least 3 stars. how many 5-ratings will it take?
Just turn the darn thing off...they are "over rated...
Yea, you tell off one basher and poof youve been 1 starred. Its kinda useless
yea i know, thats why i dont fight with anyone anymore (or i try to anyway)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
anything like that happening crab?...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Chartwalker...
The D% is at 44.9491
The K% is at 59.1837
I know what i'm doing now...lol...
and the cross is almost perpendicular...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
let us know when she's gonna pop! (if it does)
Posted by trade04 on :
looking good on level 2
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Blindly looking at this it looks like the "head fake" if it's gonna start it should be very soon!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
yep good buying pressure coming in!
Posted by trade04 on :
yea we have run!!!! upward pressure clear on level 2 weeeeeeeeeeee
Posted by Chartwalker on :
GL!! I have to go!! ~~~~
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
remember yestarday didn't really get going till 10 of!!
Posted by trade04 on :
green close..?
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
lovely!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
chugga chugga........chugga chugga....choo choo!
It looks like i wont have to bullfight today. Thats good news. Posted by maumee river rat on :
That jump to 1.25 would be nice right now...
Posted by SherriT on :
Aren't we about due for another PR timewise? even a cottony soft one?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Ok shake over now? Greeeeen!
1.21 anyone?
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: Aren't we about due for another PR timewise? even a cottony soft one?
Yea, i kinda expect one today. Unless ALL of the hype, rumor and speculation has been totally false.
Posted by P Rowds on :
well... technically we do have tomorrow as well... me, i'd prefer one right after the bell. not a fan of gappers... that way a nice climb upward...
Posted by trade04 on :
LOOKS LIKE NO EOD RUN
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
oh well, i guess ill go find something else to do. Someone is letting the air out of this. Posted by 10of13 on :
Daytraders leavin'...they were hopin' for what we got yesterday....IMO
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: oh well, i guess ill go find something else to do. Someone is letting the air out of this.
Try doin some engineering for a change...
Posted by Sandusky on :
I can't get this picture in my head to go away...a guy standing at the bottom of Hoover dam with his finger stuck in a little tiny hole...looking around watching another leak spring up just out of reach. He hears hysterical laughing from above and sees a half naked indian holding a bottle of blue shampoo standing on top and just laghing his a$$ off.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
you're wrong on so many levels for that...
Posted by portman on :
Is he wearing a red shirt?
Posted by dog on :
Tease em ARCA.. wierd things happen when he's around... look at the size...
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: I can't get this picture in my head to go away...a guy standing at the bottom of Hoover dam with his finger stuck in a little tiny hole...looking around watching another leak spring up just out of reach. He hears hysterical laughing from above and sees a half naked indian holding a bottle of blue shampoo standing on top and just laghing his a$$ off.
Aaawww...that would be such a cute pic of Maumee and Chart!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Hey 10!!!! Your a funny girl...lol
Havent seen ya in a bit......
I take it that thing is sliden pretty good ,,,
glad you like it
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: oh well, i guess ill go find something else to do. Someone is letting the air out of this.
Try doin some engineering for a change...
Yea, if you look back in the thread i was "missing" a large part of last week. Some major engineering went on during that time LOL.
I was actually down in your neck of the woods...sorta, on Friday. I was at the Jeep plant all day. What a crazy environment after being in an office every day!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Hey 10!!!! Your a funny girl...lol
Havent seen ya in a bit......
I take it that thing is sliden pretty good ,,,
glad you like it
You tried it out didn't you?
We're closin' red....
Posted by dog on :
Manipulation damn
Posted by dog on :
Tomight would be a good time for some news....
Posted by RichBy26 on :
what happened to the PR??? maybe we'll see it around midnight? Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Manipulation damn
See Maumee...even Dog knows how you are...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
See ya all later!!!
Posted by 10of13 on :
closin' red...We shall see what the am will bring.. Have a good night all!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: what happened to the PR??? maybe we'll see it around midnight?
Yea around midnight. That would make it around noon in China where he could be hiding out? Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
1.089 68000 16:04:04
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer:
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: what happened to the PR??? maybe we'll see it around midnight?
Yea around midnight. That would make it around noon in China where he could be hiding out?
seems like the last couple PRs have been released around that time. maybe the stratagy is to make the shorts pay?!?!?!
Posted by trade04 on :
ANYONE SEE THAT 68K AFTER HOURS
Posted by dog on :
68k at 1.086
Posted by SherriT on :
Not a bad price if you are trying to cover....
Posted by dog on :
Gotta be a squeeze move....
Posted by Sandusky on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Gotta be a squeeze move....
Another leak springing up...that indian's going to hurt himself laughing so hard.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by mnvestor:
quote:Originally posted by portman: From Platalk....take with grain of salt....
sweetsplat: I do not know for sure that this information is absulutely 100% accurate sweetsplat: the guy that gave me this infomation has called the last 5 PR's sweetsplat: and he was accurate 2 the hour..... Trout31: Sweetsplat.... Hold on.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! sweetsplat: within 10 hours, I believe Trout31: This is "PALTALK .... BREAKING NEWS!" ... I reporter in the Field ....Sweetsplat ....has been working on this story.... all day....... Sweetsplat... are you there ...! sweetsplat: here it is: sweetsplat: In the next two days CHSD will reveal the name of the trust and where it is located (the bank) for confimation by independent parties. In addition, the goal with these and other PR's is to increase the pps to approximately $2 before the release of the 10K and S-4. I could not get a firm time frame of EOD, or noon sweetsplat: tomorrow. However, it is iminent and dependent on the pps. All issues related to FHAL "under the table, payola" agreements have been settled. This is the week. This should be what we have all been waiting for.
take it for what its worth, but the person who is saying this has also called last 5 prs
Something to keep in mind.........
Has the time expired? not sure when this was originally posted, but I found this part on p.66 any guesses as to when we see this news??
Posted by dog on :
When or if it happens... it happens. Talk about it then... Posted by RichBy26 on :
found the answer i was looking for. it's on p.65 of this thread. 2 days from it's original post would mean if this news is coming it will be out by tomorrow night?!?!?!?! only time will tell, this guys track record is on the line:)
Posted by lostone on :
nice.. closed above a buck.. tomorrow should only be better..
Posted by sandor butosi on :
DOG, expect slow drop here in AM. To keep busy check out ACHI news and call me. They are in plymouth MI. They just got their first FORD contract!
Posted by SuperSniper00 on :
I dont think Rufus should be having a BBQ with anyone. Because if people lose tons of money on this, then people are going to come looking for Mr. Rufus. I would stay hidden if I was him.
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by SuperSniper00: I dont think Rufus should be having a BBQ with anyone. Because if people lose tons of money on this, then people are going to come looking for Mr. Rufus. I would stay hidden if I was him.
LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Sandusky: I can't get this picture in my head to go away...a guy standing at the bottom of Hoover dam with his finger stuck in a little tiny hole...looking around watching another leak spring up just out of reach. He hears hysterical laughing from above and sees a half naked indian holding a bottle of blue shampoo standing on top and just laghing his a$$ off.
Aaawww...that would be such a cute pic of Maumee and Chart!
"Paybacks 10!! Paybacks..." ha ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
Chart...That was "payback"...we're even....LOL!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Chart...That was "payback"...we're even....LOL!
ha.. oh yeah... I forgot! lmao!
Catch ya tomorrow, we had some darn good laughs today! Take care ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
TAXES..... Ok, Let's count our chickens before they hatch! ha ~~
Seeing how it's a "dead night..." Anyone have any good tax tips, links etc. for protecting what might be our biggest stock gain to date?...
Alot of good minds out there, share please! Posted by Chartwalker on :
Or... Some funny dumb bloopers.... ha ~ (hey,... it's a slow night
Pay your taxes and call it a day.......
Posted by Chartwalker on :
But their are different ways to file, you can file as a "trader" if..... (don't remember...) Just wanted to know what way was the best, otherwise it's like 33% I think.... OUCH!
Posted by dog on :
Capital gains info... there's a scale in here somewherew... my best advice would be to start a business... I have 4, that may see significant funding..
Capital gains info... there's a scale in here somewhere ... my best advice would be to start a business... I have 4, they may see significant funding..
quote:Originally posted by dog: Capital gains info... there's a scale in here somewhere ... my best advice would be to start a business... I have 4, they may see significant funding..
I've heard that from a friend... hmmm. Thanks dog, that'll be my next DD.
Posted by dog on :
Quarter of a million dollar music studio, gear, computers, company show vehicle (coming soon), office, 900 square feet of my basement... all on business (depreciated and tax deferred).
Figure out what you have always wanted to do... start a business that makes money... find a good accountant.
Posted by dog on :
Ohh.. forgot... 20K in an IRA trading account each year so you can keep playing.
Spousal support is also deducted pre-tax... not that I'm recommending divorce...hehe
Posted by portman on :
dog... yes...everyone should have a good business plan. Posted by Chartwalker on :
Yep, I have some work to do! That's kind'a what I was looking for. Hmmm.... (mind racing!!) thx, think I'm headed in the right direction now.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
In trying to "fully" understand what happened to our "should have been" red hot stock and why it was naked shorted to death I've uncovered this...
Apparently to join a true hedge fund one must have a min. of a Million $ and leave it for a min of 1 year. A hedge fund is VERY Aggressive! Bottom line: GROWTH!
What I posted below I believe happened with our stock. Please read... (from link above)
2. Event-Driven Strategies Event-driven strategies take advantage of transaction announcements and other one-time events. One example is merger arbitrage, which is used in the event of an acquisition announcement and involves buying the stock of the target company and ""hedging the purchase by selling short the stock of the acquiring company."" Usually at announcement, the purchase price that the acquiring company will pay to buy its target ""exceeds"" the current trading price of the target company. The merger arbitrageur ""bets the acquisition will happen"" and cause the target company's price to converge (rise) to the purchase price that the acquiring company pays. --------------------------------
So, if I'm understanding this right, they hire a MM (hedge manager) to naked short the mergers that they think will happen, this dilutes the stock horribly and drives the price down allowing them to scoop millions of cheap shares.
Then (and I quote here) "Usually at announcement, the purchase price that the acquiring company will pay to buy its target ""exceeds"" the current trading price of the target company."
In other words... -they sell into the inflated short squeeze as shares are covered making a ton of money...
In that video they say that the SEC KNOWS about this and to "police it" they came up with the SHO rule (Treshold). That's policing it?!!
By letting them do it, but only to a certain point before they can do it no more?!!! [13 day rule]
Talk about your rich getting richer!
This is an OUTRAGE!!!
Posted by dog on :
so I could prevent this by not selling my shares?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
no way dog... they are the ones throwing FAKE shares into the mix by the millions....
THAT'S why Rufus said get certs!!!! He KNOWS!!
Posted by trade04 on :
We should see a PR tomorrow imo or thursday. but for sure this week. its how we roll..
Posted by glassman on :
i see you are beginning to get the picture chart...
the MM's are always getting blamed for the dirty deeds...
they are not always the ones doing it...
they are only sometimes the ones doing it...
it's just easier to blame the MM's cuz you can see them... Posted by betting babe on :
wha? who's selling? what's doin?
did i miss anything?
and why do airports have to take my mascara??!
and why the heck do i see nothing but red in my portfolio today???
blahhhhhhhhhhumbug.
nuttin here, rite? ~BB
Posted by trade04 on :
hey betting babe...are you on myspace? hehe
Posted by betting babe on :
yep.
so ill take that as no news today. g'nite all. chk in w yas tomorrow nite.
i hope the action waits for me on thursday!
~BB
[ August 30, 2006, 00:16: Message edited by: betting babe ]
Posted by Chartwalker on :
glassman... well, at least it helps knowing what you are up against ~
I can't help but imagine what stocks would run like without that happening... "wow"
Mind blowing ~
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: no way dog... they are the ones throwing FAKE shares into the mix by the millions....
THAT'S why Rufus said get certs!!!! He KNOWS!!
Sorry...back from the studio...trying to work and manage my investment at the same time.. so it's massive dilution?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: no way dog... they are the ones throwing FAKE shares into the mix by the millions....
THAT'S why Rufus said get certs!!!! He KNOWS!!
Sorry...back from the studio...trying to work and manage my investment at the same time.. so it's massive dilution?
Yeah, I'm just tieing abunch of loose ends together and "seeing it."
Naked shortening is just selling shares that they don't have to sell pure and simple. It drives the price down cause the maket gets flooded and selloffs REALLY sell off and they scoop up tons of shares that they know are worth more and sell later in the squeeze.
No wonder Rufus is getting a report according to that pinic guy. Rufus wants to know how many fake shares they sold, that's what was "sold short." -they are short that many...
I gotta get some sleep ~ Peace-out!
Posted by dog on :
So the dilution is withdrawn as the shorts have to cover... the lot is consolidated?
It's just a question of time?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Everything for us is still a go dog!
This just explains why the price isn't $5 a share right now...
oh.. Good Morning!!
Posted by a surfer on :
INTEGRITY STOCK TRANSFER.... still 28,938,159 in float
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: no way dog... they are the ones throwing FAKE shares into the mix by the millions....
THAT'S why Rufus said get certs!!!! He KNOWS!!
I don't get it.. where do the "fake" shares come from??
Posted by sceptor on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: no way dog... they are the ones throwing FAKE shares into the mix by the millions....
THAT'S why Rufus said get certs!!!! He KNOWS!!
I don't get it.. where do the "fake" shares come from??
they call them air shares.
MM's are allowed to short stocks, sell stocks which they do not actually own, in order to make the market active. They do not have to borrow them from anyone prior to shorting unless they have already shorted the stock and it is on the NASD SHO list.
Thus you wind up with companies like this one with millions and millions of more shares in the market than were actually issued. The letter going around offering to borrow individuals shares is a sure sign that the rules regarding naked shorting does help.
Posted by a surfer on :
O.K. I understand. July 10, 2006 - July 15, 2006
this is a link to Ted Butlers argument about the 4 big co. in silver. naked shorting. Interesting and I think it ties in well!
sorry this is the link. go to Jul.10 to 15
Posted by portman on :
All looks well this morning.
Seems to me RPH wants the move to $2 to induce covering prior to the 10K. Based on the new DD here that indicates the overall impact of naked shorting and the possible effect on this stock we appear to have a sound strategy.
Thanks to chart for all that effort. Having never really looked at that aspect of teh market it was a great learn.
Posted by a surfer on :
whats interesting about this is that it happens on all levels. Even now with the silver ETF opening 4 or 5 months ago.
Posted by a surfer on :
Yes Thank you chart! I am addicted to learning!
Posted by dog on :
Morning all...
So we get to watch them screw down our PPS and shake loose real shares for them to snatch up.
Even if I sold at a higher price... trying to get shares from the MM's is difficult once volume stops and we can't take advantage of the lower PPS like they do. Small amounts OK, but still take forever to fill. Any decent size order I've had tried to buy is nearly impossible to fill. Due to the manipulation... nyone wanting to go long on this is taking a big chance by flipping to end up with no shares at all.... IMHO
When can we see the consolidation, Chart?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: From Platalk....take with grain of salt....
sweetsplat: I do not know for sure that this information is absulutely 100% accurate sweetsplat: the guy that gave me this infomation has called the last 5 PR's sweetsplat: and he was accurate 2 the hour..... Trout31: Sweetsplat.... Hold on.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! sweetsplat: within 10 hours, I believe Trout31: This is "PALTALK .... BREAKING NEWS!" ... I reporter in the Field ....Sweetsplat ....has been working on this story.... all day....... Sweetsplat... are you there ...! sweetsplat: here it is: sweetsplat: In the next two days CHSD will reveal the name of the trust and where it is located (the bank) for confimation by independent parties. In addition, the goal with these and other PR's is to increase the pps to approximately $2 before the release of the 10K and S-4. I could not get a firm time frame of EOD, or noon sweetsplat: tomorrow. However, it is iminent and dependent on the pps. All issues related to FHAL "under the table, payola" agreements have been settled. This is the week. This should be what we have all been waiting for.
Today is the last day of the proposed time frame when news was supposed to be out. Should we start taking bets on if this thing will happen today or not
Posted by lostone on :
the anticipation.. geez.. i really wish today is the day for a major movement..
Posted by Sandusky on :
I tend to believe anything from someone named "sweetsplat"
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF:
quote:Originally posted by portman: From Platalk....take with grain of salt....
sweetsplat: I do not know for sure that this information is absulutely 100% accurate sweetsplat: the guy that gave me this infomation has called the last 5 PR's sweetsplat: and he was accurate 2 the hour..... Trout31: Sweetsplat.... Hold on.... BREAKING NEWS!!!!!!!! sweetsplat: within 10 hours, I believe Trout31: This is "PALTALK .... BREAKING NEWS!" ... I reporter in the Field ....Sweetsplat ....has been working on this story.... all day....... Sweetsplat... are you there ...! sweetsplat: here it is: sweetsplat: In the next two days CHSD will reveal the name of the trust and where it is located (the bank) for confimation by independent parties. In addition, the goal with these and other PR's is to increase the pps to approximately $2 before the release of the 10K and S-4. I could not get a firm time frame of EOD, or noon sweetsplat: tomorrow. However, it is iminent and dependent on the pps. All issues related to FHAL "under the table, payola" agreements have been settled. This is the week. This should be what we have all been waiting for.
Today is the last day of the proposed time frame when news was supposed to be out. Should we start taking bets on if this thing will happen today or not
Posted by a surfer on :
Originally Posted by cmed123 Hello all, I have watched this board for a month now BEST DD around. I have to let you know "The 10k" Is now Done, and will be out this week. It was finshed Yesterday. You may trust me or you may not trust me, but i'm telling you guy's first, I know this is my first post but i don't post on any boards. I have a great source, I will leave it at that, and my source is 90% right most of the time. Hope everyone has a great night. Cmed from GA
This came on HSM last night. The fella went on to say we would all be happy. LOL
Posted by portman on :
It is what it is...
What will be, will be...
Expect it when you see it...
Oh, and last but not least.
Enjoy the ride...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer: Originally Posted by cmed123 Hello all, I have watched this board for a month now BEST DD around. I have to let you know "The 10k" Is now Done, and will be out this week. It was finshed Yesterday. You may trust me or you may not trust me, but i'm telling you guy's first, I know this is my first post but i don't post on any boards. I have a great source, I will leave it at that, and my source is 90% right most of the time. Hope everyone has a great night. Cmed from GA
This came on HSM last night. The fella went on to say we would all be happy. LOL
Yeah yeah... best DD my arse. He needs to come here!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'll be waiting for this flood of news. I think just like everyone else here. I'll be hopefull but not holding my breath
Posted by a surfer on :
I like 90% most of the time LOL..
Posted by RyanPBF on :
yeah it's like this guy I know he's been 100% accurate on his one call of pr. Oh wait that's Bud j/k lol
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Morning all...
So we get to watch them screw down our PPS and shake loose real shares for them to snatch up.
Even if I sold at a higher price... trying to get shares from the MM's is difficult once volume stops and we can't take advantage of the lower PPS like they do. Small amounts OK, but still take forever to fill. Any decent size order I've had tried to buy is nearly impossible to fill. Due to the manipulation... nyone wanting to go long on this is taking a big chance by flipping to end up with no shares at all.... IMHO
I've "attacked this video and can find nothing wrong with it, again this is a MUST see for everyone, lays it all out real nice IMO ~
Posted by portman on :
gapping down a litte
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: yeah it's like this guy I know he's been 100% accurate on his one call of pr. Oh wait that's Bud j/k lol
ha ha ~ That's like saying 90% of the time I'm 100% correct! LOL ~~
Oh well, rumor or not let's radar it, see what kind of fruit it brings...
Posted by a surfer on :
Chart is this the same thats happening to us...
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by dog: Morning all...
So we get to watch them screw down our PPS and shake loose real shares for them to snatch up.
Even if I sold at a higher price... trying to get shares from the MM's is difficult once volume stops and we can't take advantage of the lower PPS like they do. Small amounts OK, but still take forever to fill. Any decent size order I've had tried to buy is nearly impossible to fill. Due to the manipulation... nyone wanting to go long on this is taking a big chance by flipping to end up with no shares at all.... IMHO
They can legally do that, it's insane, crooked!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
MT.. thanks for NOT becoming a ViQueens fan!!! lol ~~
Posted by a surfer on :
yea it is insane... Thanks
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman: gapping down a litte
shocking:) these MMs are such crooks...
1.01x1.02
Posted by Chartwalker on :
SEE! Now why in the hell would someone, ANYONE buy shares that are HIGHER then what the ask is in PRE-market unless it's the MM's getting shares and selling them at LOW ASK prices to drive it down so they can cover!
Perfect example of how we are getting screwed!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I'm waiting Chart. Although if the time of this pr follows suit to the others. We won't see this until after hours sometime
Seems Rufas has "been playing" with the timing of the PR's to see what works the best...IF he is going to put one out and wants it to "actually do something to the PPS"...I think that it would be closer to the late day...so that people can "rush in to buy" before tearing the PR apart...when he releases them at night..peeps have been able to "look and dig" BEFORE grabbing...and the PPS hasn't responded...
It just depends on what Rufas wants the PPS to do...stay still, fly up, or gradual...
Posted by portman on :
Agreed 10.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Rufus isn't dumb in all this, someone's told him how the game is played right from day one.
Not opinion... IMO lol ~
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I agree.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think you nailed it on the head 10...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
They didn't push it down very good... seems the 1.01 strength is still there.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
It could climb at this pace all day and I'd be happy.
Posted by 10of13 on :
the volume is staying low...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
extremely
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: It could climb at this pace all day and I'd be happy.
Well yeah... It could climb all day a bit faster and I would still be happy. It could climb half a day take a hour break and then climb the rest of the day, and once again I would remain "happy"
I guess what I am saying is:
climb = "me happy"
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Withe the underlying short squeeze there should now be a upward pressure, even with there being "extra" shares out there.
The market thinks this is going to happen IMO, that is why we were shorted so hard to begin with, it can actually be a (do I dare say it...) "good" sign.
But the truth is that they can't let this thing fly, if you don't understand why watch that video link.
But our day is coming!!! that upward pressure, however "diluted" by the naked shorts, IS there...
Don't take my word for it, look at a 5 day chart, you'll CLEARLY see an uptrend!
Posted by dog on :
I was tempted to flip...sell 10-20k at 1.08 to use on another play... but I don't think I'd be able to recover the shares here... this thing is under tremendous pressure with the low volume.... they can't get anybody to bite and let go of the real shares...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey looks like my 1.04 support level I was telling rat about yesterday, is right on today. Go figure....
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
is the bid and ask just sittin at 1.04 or is my ticker stuck? Posted by RichBy26 on :
bid above ask now!
Posted by Sandusky on :
Weird Sh*t going on...
Posted by MoneyMoneyMoney on :
well I picked up 500 X 1.04 more so I'll let em sit and hope for that 2 dollar price .
AUTO IS ON 1.04 ON MINE, THEN ETRD AT 1.07
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Did it just jump 2 cents on 5K shares? I blinked.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
moving nicely now:)
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Christ if we are that tight this is going to rocket on a pin drop.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Honestly between 101K volume and 121K volume the price went from 1.04 to 1.10 this is going to be a "Great" Day!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
Dont we usually run on low volume just before news hits? Will we get our news today? Will the MMs run the game? Will everything deflate fater that it inflated?
The answers to these questions and many more today at 4!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think that they almost have to let it go a little...
That would cause a bit of profit taking, and an op. for MM's to grab up some real shares...
It may cost them a bit more $$, but it wouldn't be as bad as gettin caught up in the squeez, when it happens...
They will let the profit takers provide the shares they need...
Just a thought..
Good Morning gang!!!
Posted by dog on :
WTF? I try to work for 15 minutes and come back to this? What is this? Makes no sense... any buying pressure at all.. I'm going to be at Happy Hour 4pm!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
"Squeeze me... Please me..." -Scorpions -World Tour Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: MT.. thanks for NOT becoming a ViQueens fan!!! lol ~~
Never happen. But I'm surrounded by Vikings fans at the office here, though. Except one guy - who also moved here from WI. In fact, there's been a number of e-mails sent back and forth this morning here jabbin' at each other. I love it. The NFL easily gets as much attention from me as stocks.
Posted by dog on :
Why would anyone on ASK leave their block at 1.04 when the PPS is 12? What?!?
Posted by dog on :
AUTO is an a**hole.... sorry just frustrated.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: "Squeeze me... Please me..." -Scorpions -World Tour
good thing that Maumee isn't posting right now...so much could be said...LOL
Posted by RyanPBF on :
wow I step away for a minute and this thing takes off. I missed it dog what did AUTO do.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Dog!!! No need to be sorry, when your right!!!!!
Posted by dog on :
Is he leaving a block on ASK at 1.04 still?
Check your L2's unless I'm bugged....
Posted by dog on :
Have you ever seen that?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
auto isn't on my l2's at the moment
Posted by 10of13 on :
There are MM's on here now that I haven't seen much of...ALPS, BMIC...and others...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: "Squeeze me... Please me..." -Scorpions -World Tour
good thing that Maumee isn't posting right now...so much could be said...LOL
Actually I was trying to get him to come out and play with that one! Posted by dog on :
Must be a bug...
Posted by dog on :
I reopened and AUTO still has that block at 1.04 ask sitting there...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I'm seein the same thing dog...
A new game is bein pushed upon us???
Lets see how it unfolds..
Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: Must be a bug...
I agree. I have those show up from time to time on my L2s.
Posted by 10of13 on :
I don't see Auto on my L2's at all...I am "curious" about these "newer" MM's...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
My L2s show NITE at 1.08 on the ask and the only ones on the bid at 1.04 are SBSH and ETRD
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Somethin about "squeeze me, Please me" and "come out and play"....Makes me want to NOT know you Chart...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I think that speculated mystery rich guy is back buying up every share he can under $1.09. This thing has been on this slow bounce since yesterday when we anticipated the run.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Dog!!!
You use microcap???
I'm showen AUTO at 1.04 ask on Micro...
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I use ameritrade and don't see him. That's odd
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
etrade shows no such thing...me thinks microcap is screwing with you guys...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Auto not showen on TDA Apex, L2's at all...
It may be a glitch on Microcap
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
boy someone sure doesn't want that 1.12 to get any steam...i'm thinking we hit that then 1.20 is coming quick...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Walker!!!
Look at a minute chart....10 day....
Do you see somethin ????
Do you see what I see....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
two MM's are talking...
MM1: Hey we need shares what should we do now that we can't sell naked sh*t, I mean shorts?
MM2:hmmm, how about we stage run ups and crash it and try to shake some... Maybe we can screw some flippers out of their shares when they try to buy back in to!
MM1: Sounds good, we have to try something cause everyone seems to be holding and they don't seem to want to sell...
This is an actually conversation.... Elvis told me this over coffee this morning! LOL ~~
But... I bet there were/are talks like this going on!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
what did you find Rat?
Posted by P Rowds on :
rat... are you seeing a trend of a small drop then runup?
Posted by SherriT on :
The small amounts definately go through quick....I got 1000 on the ask in under 1 minute.
Posted by dog on :
Soryy tepped away... yes Microcap
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Walker!!!
Look at a minute chart....10 day....
Do you see somethin ????
Do you see what I see....
I don't dare bring up my charts, remember this computer likes to crash ~
But I can look at Scottrades, pretty lame.... Hang on... See gaps that were filled, an uptrend, and a pretty good res. point where we are at...
Almost looks like a channel is forming too.
What can you see on a decent looking chart?...
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
whoah, another crazy ask at 1.10 out of the blue.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Walker!!!
I was going to sell 13k shares and use funds elsewhere... no way... never get them back... the last run started when I bought 10k shares... took over ask bids to get it.. then it steamrolled.
Posted by MTPromises on :
I tried getting 5000 more shares but only filled 500.
Posted by P Rowds on :
i see a trend with a spike on every PR released thurs-fri time frame followed by a drop that gets smaller every week.
Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: I tried getting 5000 more shares but only filled 500.
You'll be waiting all day too... watched them trade around me for 3 hours last week.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: boy someone sure doesn't want that 1.12 to get any steam...i'm thinking we hit that then 1.20 is coming quick...
Don't think it will break 1.12 for a while...
Good resistance there today...
I think it will retreat to the 1.05 (maybe a dollar) area then climb again...
Resistance by then..( 1:00 o-clockish) should be around 1.10....
Then we'll see if it want's to break....
Looks as if we will be in an ever tightening trading range, untill around 3:30 (give or take)
In other words.... Nice Pennant forming...
If it hold for the day, we should see a pretty good move (one way or the other) EOD....
It is a short term pattern...
Could get smashed at any time..
Without a PR..I think it may play out..
We'll see...It's still early..
GL
Posted by dog on :
If I had 10k available..I'd run blocks of 500 shares up 2-3 cents each trade.... it would pop!
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I was going to sell 13k shares and use funds elsewhere... no way... never get them back... the last run started when I bought 10k shares... took over ask bids to get it.. then it steamrolled.
I know what you mean dog. I bought 50K when we dipped to .58, and sold the same day at .73. They released new that night and opened the next day at almost $1. I finally got back in at 1.11 thinking we were going much higher, but of course it dropped!! So I'm holding my 13500 shares for the long run. Wish I would have kept that 50K:(
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: boy someone sure doesn't want that 1.12 to get any steam...i'm thinking we hit that then 1.20 is coming quick...
Don't think it will break 1.12 for a while...
Good resistance there today...
I think it will retreat to the 1.05 (maybe a dollar) area then climb again...
Resistance by then..( 1:00 o-clockish) should be around 1.10....
Then we'll see if it want's to break....
Looks as if we will be in an ever tightening trading range, untill around 3:30 (give or take)
In other words.... Nice Pennant forming...
If it hold for the day, we should see a pretty good move (one way or the other) EOD....
It is a short term pattern...
Could get smashed at any time..
Without a PR..I think it may play out..
We'll see...It's still early..
GL
bump...had too.. it took to long to type it..LOL
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
looks like we are bumping up against that 1.10 resistance a little early...you still seeing it retrace?
Posted by dog on :
I'm afraid I wasn't too shrewd at flipping this stock...was always on the edge of my seat waiting for news that never came or made any difference... now it's too risky to flip.
I haven't exactly "fallen in love" with this stock...more like a Love-Hate relationship . . . but I really want to keep my original position of 35k at this point in the game.
Small changes in PPS are really noticable in my portfolio balance.... that run to 1.19 was probably one of the more exciting runs I've seen.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
imagine how excited you'll be if close to two mil pops up, lol...
Posted by dog on :
*gulp* 1.86 . . . don't even wanna believe it until it's in the cash balance column.
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Thanks Rat for the description. I am not a chart reader but like my information visible so I am sure I will be studying for the next ten years on chart reading. I have been really impressed with Charts and your analysis. I have heard a few other posters on different boards in the past that were big into charts and most of what they were pointing out seemed off or scewed when I went to check it out. Not from you two though. Your resistance levels (especially) and price movements over the last month have been very helpful. I almost asked yesterday for Chart to share with me the name of his fancy charting tool he is using. I spend some time out on stockcharts.com and bigcharts.com looking and learning. I am sure after following you two I will be spending more time out there.
Hope the pennant holds!
GLTU and GLTA TB
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: *gulp* 1.86 . . . don't even wanna believe it until it's in the cash balance column.
Hey then you can just BUY Ashleys and throw a big party eh? Posted by MTPromises on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I'm afraid I wasn't too shrewd at flipping this stock...was always on the edge of my seat waiting for news that never came or made any difference... now it's too risky to flip.
I haven't exactly "fallen in love" with this stock...more like a Love-Hate relationship . . . but I really want to keep my original position of 35k at this point in the game.
Small changes in PPS are really noticable in my portfolio balance.... that run to 1.19 was probably one of the more exciting runs I've seen.
Dog, I'm in a similar boat as you so I know what you mean! The fluctuations are intense!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: looks like we are bumping up against that 1.10 resistance a little early...you still seeing it retrace?
Y Yup!!!(had to edit that "up" to Yup)
I still think so...
Just for the record....
This thing has really good support around .95EOD
Hi side resistance EOD around 1.30...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
looking at the 60min 20day chart...is that a big pennant closing up?
Posted by MTPromises on :
wow, trading has slowed to a snail's pace
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thanks TB!!!
I hope some of my non-sense helps!!LOL
The best thing to do is learn why and how support and resistance works...
Then jump to the canned programs to confirm of refute..
Takes time...( I'm still learning..20+ years later)
Posted by trade04 on :
Just woke up. when i get back from the gym this better be over 1.15! =)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: looking at the 60min 20day chart...is that a big pennant closing up?
Drop down a couple time frames..15 min... or even a five...
To answer your Q.....Yes it is..
Good Look Crab!!!
Look at my above post and see if you can confirm my support and resistance levels....
The more that can see it the more accurate it is...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
ah back... Had to do some "latter" part on a pump and "DUMP"! lol~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
looks right on rat ~
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Walker!!!
You need to get your Puter fixed, so we can bounce some ideas around...
( you need the practice anyways ) Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Yep rat I definetly see the .95 support...
Although...I'm thinking the resistance may be a little lower than 1.30
It would be easier to see if we had more chart(not the walker) to look at...
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: If I had 10k available..I'd run blocks of 500 shares up 2-3 cents each trade.... it would pop!
you want me to try this dog
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: Yep rat I definetly see the .95 support...
Although...I'm thinking the resistance may be a little lower than 1.30
It would be easier to see if we had more chart(not the walker) to look at...
That was just a quick guesstimate...
It is more like 1.28
Your on it !!!!
Good look Posted by dog on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by dog: If I had 10k available..I'd run blocks of 500 shares up 2-3 cents each trade.... it would pop!
you want me to try this dog
YES lol
Posted by dog on :
What's with SBSH...50 block?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Crab !!! If it breaks up today, I can see a small bump in the road around the 1.17+ area.. on it's way to 1.28 ...
confirm?
Posted by a surfer on :
l will let you know when..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Walker!!!
You need to get your Puter fixed, so we can bounce some ideas around...
( you need the practice anyways )
Working on something, will share!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Walker!!!
You need to get your Puter fixed, so we can bounce some ideas around...
( you need the practice anyways )
Working on something, will share!
ha ha ... wise azz!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
looking back three weeks or so I can maybe see that...i won't claim to know for sure though, lol...but I can see it right around there...give or take a couple cents...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Your QUICK!!!! WOW!!!! SMOKEN!!!!! LMAO!!!
Posted by dog on :
If outside investor's understood that if they bought any shares.. the PPS would rise rapidly... you'd think this stock would generate more interest.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
If that's what your woman tells you rat.... It's NOT a good thing! Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
yeah it's to bad people dont' pay attention, lol...
oh wait...here comes something maybe...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: looking back three weeks or so I can maybe see that...i won't claim to know for sure though, lol...but I can see it right around there...give or take a couple cents...
ALRIGHT!!!!
Thats what its all about!!
Strength in numbers my friend...
The more peeps that see it, (and it doesn't matter how they get there) the stronger the analysis is....
Thanks for the feed back!! Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: If outside investor's understood that if they bought any shares.. the PPS would rise rapidly... you'd think this stock would generate more interest.
I think I will go to a busy intersection and hold a sign up while nude!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Your QUICK!!!! WOW!!!! SMOKEN!!!!! LMAO!!!
Who cares what she thinks....
I'm happy!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by dog: If outside investor's understood that if they bought any shares.. the PPS would rise rapidly... you'd think this stock would generate more interest.
I think I will go to a busy intersection and hold a sign up while nude!!
Hold the sign low!!!
Don't wan't to catch a throwen stone of a passing truck....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Look-out!!!!
Testing the hi side early!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
It is testing 1.12
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by dog: If outside investor's understood that if they bought any shares.. the PPS would rise rapidly... you'd think this stock would generate more interest.
I think I will go to a busy intersection and hold a sign up while nude!!
Hold the sign low!!!
Don't wan't to catch a throwen stone of a passing truck....
Its working... OUCH
Posted by maumee river rat on :
That changes the game people....
I'll be back
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I wasn't expecting this to happen around this time. It's usually later.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Head fake...
It should fall back here..
Games are bein played
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
maybe...although it broke twelve pretty quick...
.15 looks like where it may stall...maybe...
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Slow push through the resistance I like it! Now slam the door on it!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
DAMN!!!
Now that I did not expect!!!LOL
BLASTARDS>>>LOL
Here comes that 1.17 thing crab!!!
I'll be damned...
Posted by new2stocks on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: If that's what your woman tells you rat.... It's NOT a good thing!
Well, at least he's gettting some action chart!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Head fake...
It should fall back here..
Games are bein played
Someone is playing games but it isn't the MM's. They seem to be losing grip. And I am liking it.
Posted by RyanPBF on :
This was posted over at ihub. I've read some of this persons calls on how this would move their like 90% accurate most of the time lol. This is what they posted. By Abbytraderwin
We should retest 1.00 tomorrow morning for confirmed support. Without any news or the 10k, we should break 2.00 by Friday and maybe 3.00 if the cover picks up steam
Posted by maumee river rat on :
O.K. then!!!!
That was resistance....
Support (minor) at1.11+
Un F-ing believable...LOL
That destroyed that entire chart pattern... THEY SMASHED IT!!
There is som manipulation goin on.. Ya THINK??
Resistance on an asending line now... building up to 1.17+ EOD...
That line is minor
Stronger resistance around 1.28 EOD
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
he could of preceded that with...
"My magic 8ball just said..."
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Head fake...
It should fall back here..
Games are bein played
Someone is playing games but it isn't the MM's. They seem to be losing grip. And I am liking it.
Maybe a slow push through the resistance was followed by a really slow head fake. Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...yeah...rat called it well...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: he could of preceded that with...
"My magic 8ball just said..."
No CHIT!!! LOL
Rules just don't seem to apply here...LOL
This is gunna be a hell of a ride...(someday)
Posted by lostone on :
hopefully after lunch..
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I've been bringing my helmet everyday. Waiting for this ride.
Posted by dog on :
I don't use a helmet....
Posted by RyanPBF on :
I said I brought it never were it. Can't find one to fit my gargantuan cranium.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I've been bringing my helmet everyday. Waiting for this ride.
I'm riding this with wreckless abandon from here on out...
The blastards arent playen fair anyways...
I'm on this Coaster, Buns up, no seat belt....
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by RyanPBF on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: I've been bringing my helmet everyday. Waiting for this ride.
I'm riding this with wreckless abandon from here on out...
The blastards arent playen fair anyways...
I'm on this Coaster, Buns up, no seat belt....
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Some reason Rat all I can picture right now is a vision of Super Dave Osbourne
Posted by dog on :
Yeah right.... someone bought 500 then 250 at 1.10 with no bid...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
OK CRAB!!!
Your turn!!!!!!LOL
Whatcha see????
I have an opinion, but I think I'll keep it to myself....LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
LOL!!!
I loved that show!!!!LOL
Posted by dog on :
I'm surprised that the MM's are letting it up this far.
Posted by a surfer on :
whats up with 727
Posted by dog on :
What's with the (4) 727 upticks?
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: haha...yeah...rat called it well...
Well it did take the wind out of his pennant thingy.... j/k LOL
I have done a bit of research on the flag and pennant and I do agree for a short term it was indicated on the 10 day min chart. but the flag on the 37 day daily chart is the one I am focused on. I wat it to break Northward to hmmm let's say about $15 dollars or $25, or $54... what ever the ceiling is. I'll take it. (Disclaimer: this is not a chart based analysis, this is a crazy caffine influenced computer programmer trying to get a few wishful comments in... in between lines of code. )
Posted by dog on :
I think it must be code for "your turn to bend over".
Posted by maumee river rat on :
MM's sendin messages to eah other???
Could get interesting here..
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: What's with the (4) 727 upticks?
wierd, also 737 and 777???
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: I think it must be code for "your turn to bend over".
I almost peed myself dog LMAO!!!
Posted by a surfer on :
maybe its Boeing buying up shares
Posted by dog on :
They are trying to do something.... get ready...
I mean just sit there like you have been.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04:
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: haha...yeah...rat called it well...
Well it did take the wind out of his pennant thingy.... j/k LOL
I have done a bit of research on the flag and pennant and I do agree for a short term it was indicated on the 10 day min chart. but the flag on the 37 day daily chart is the one I am focused on. I wat it to break Northward to hmmm let's say about $15 dollars or $25, or $54... what ever the ceiling is. I'll take it. (Disclaimer: this is not a chart based analysis, this is a crazy caffine influenced computer programmer trying to get a few wishful comments in... in between lines of code. )
I LIKE IT!!!! LOL
Well just for the record...
I did say early on that they could smash that pattern as it was early in the day when I saw it..
That bein said ..
Your senario sounds great to me...!!!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
CIA sending coded messages to opperatives watching this stock?
What? Is that a "silent" black hellicopter I hear? LOL
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Free charts like I use, not all the bells and whistles but nice LEARNING TOOL!!!!!!!!
Rat, time we update your caveman azz ways! ha ha~ jk ~
Scroll down to the chart and click "TOOLS" go to STUDIES, the click "APPLY STUDIES"
a window will open. hit the ARROW DOWN on "SELECT STUDIES"
Select: MACD (HIST. + 2 LINES) then for FAST PERIOD put "4" SLOW PERIOD put "8" Signal PERIOD put "4" -click ADD
open SELECT STUDIES window again and select: STOCHASTIC, SLOW -click ADD
open SELECT STUDIES window again and select: MACD (HIST. + 2 LINES) -click ADD [this MACD leave at the default settings of 12/26/9]
Now click "DETACH" Double click the blue header bar accross the very top of the chart and it becomes Full Screen. To undo just double click again... *note you can also drag in/out the sides and/or top/bottom of the chart page now.
*note, by pushing CLONE you will get multiple charts. Don't do it now. Great intraday watching multiple charts at once!
The stock NTC should be loaded.
Now for a quick lesson on how to read what you just programmed...
Move your mouse over the chart and notice the red vertical line appear, put that line over OCT. and left click and hold and drag line to Feb. It will turn RED and then you'll ZOOM IN. *note to double zoom in, just repeat.
*note: to ZOOM OUT double click the chart anywhere
How to look for BUYS Now move mouse over the chart and put the RED vert line over NOV. Note that all indicators are POS and that STOCHASTIC is very low, Excellent buy set up! Notice price took off, -now when to exit the trade?
WHEN TO SELL Notice just into DEC that STOCHASTIC drops down past upper red line in the indicator... SELL!
Notice too that in about the middle of January right before the huge GAP DOWN that Stochastic was telling you to BALE, saving you from losing your azz ~
Now penny stocks are much harder, try learning about indicators with a high volume stock like QQQQ. Then you'll see how indicators clearly work. Even with this chart MACD's are hard to see. Try looking at QQQQ!!!
Exact buys and sells, no guess work. You can do this same thing intraday, minute by minute, flip by flip... -Any lights coming on yet?!!! lol ~
Welcome to the world of charting where you'll NEVER stop learning...
GLTA!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by TaxBack04: CIA sending coded messages to opperatives watching this stock?
What? Is that a "silent" black hellicopter I hear? LOL
What doesit sound like?
Posted by 10of13 on :
LMAO...Chart?...Maumee..is too old to learn...but I must say...his "prehistoric" ways have been very reliable!
Posted by MTPromises on :
another 747 just went through
Posted by maumee river rat on :
"Rat, time we update your caveman azz ways! ha ha~ jk ~"
Ah how easy it is to be critacle when ones azz wasn't in the breeze...LOL
Caveman ways??? LOL
Lets play!!! [ bangs stick on hollow log]
Your turn...
Posted by lostone on :
all i can do is laugh at the volume.. man.. wish they'd just let it goooo
Posted by MTPromises on :
just sent an order through for 1500 shares at 1.12 - filled in 2 seconds
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by RyanPBF: This was posted over at ihub. I've read some of this persons calls on how this would move their like 90% accurate most of the time lol. This is what they posted. By Abbytraderwin
We should retest 1.00 tomorrow morning for confirmed support. Without any news or the 10k, we should break 2.00 by Friday and maybe 3.00 if the cover picks up steam
This would not suprise me at all..
But then again...
I don't think anything about this will.....
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
ok...this is what I see happening...now everyone...this comes from a very good source with minutes of chart reading experience...so pay attention...
first...the stock will go up some...
second...the stock will go down a little bit...
third...it will go back up just a little more...
and the cycle continues till it doesn't want to...
THAT IS ALL...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by MTPromises: just sent an order through for 1500 shares at 1.12 - filled in 2 seconds
Thats scarey!!!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Well done, Crab!!!LOL
(that almost sounds like dinner)
Posted by MTPromises on :
almost all buys goin' thru
Posted by cool AZ on :
Good morning! ... stuck in San Diego all week this week ... not a bad place to be!
The trends look good for sure! Looks like we're in for a nice steady rise ... would like to see what a few well placed PR's would do!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Hey, for the record the "old ways" is where I came from, just have to have the new ways when flip'n.
I'll never knock the old, I remember TONS of paper and charts galore!! ha ~~
And I still do it from time to time. It's an "art" -it really is!!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
ARCA dropped off the ask? Maybe he's expecting it to go up more I don't see him anymore.
Posted by P Rowds on :
whats it lookin like maumee... 1.12 was getting hit pretty hard there for a while...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by new2stocks:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: If that's what your woman tells you rat.... It's NOT a good thing!
Well, at least he's gettting some action chart!
--oh I heard that woman!!
Muh hu ha ha.........................
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
i'm thinking 1.15 is gonna do what 1.12 was earlier...then off to 1.20+
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: Hey, for the record the "old ways" is where I came from, just have to have the new ways when flip'n.
I'll never knock the old, I remember TONS of paper and charts galore!! ha ~~
And I still do it from time to time. It's an "art" -it really is!!!
Its like my old paper plotter on my commercial fishing boat.. most reliable thing there was. read the bottom (of the ocean) perfectly.
Posted by a surfer on :
28 buys to 2 sells
Posted by dog on :
Top of the hour... which way will it go?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
That res point is a heavy one, (1.13 out of the can) -- still trying to bust it!
Posted by trade04 on :
ok im back.... GOOD ENOUGH!!
Posted by portman on :
Crazy Ivan time.
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I can't take it anymore, going to try to "LOAD UP" the charts!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
the MM's are ruskies?
hey wait...that explains alot!!!
Posted by P Rowds on :
one at the bid and it knocks it down like that?! ridiculous.....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: That res point is a heavy one, (1.13 out of the can) -- still trying to bust it!
it mor or less already did when it tapped 1.14... don'tcha think??
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: the MM's are ruskies?
Well, I certainly am not...lol!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: the MM's are ruskies?
hey wait...that explains alot!!!
\ \HA-ha ha ha
thats funny..
Posted by ww2player on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: the MM's are ruskies?
hey wait...that explains alot!!!
LOL maybe more true than you think if there is any of those Russian Mofia guys shorting this.. hehe
Posted by glassman on :
haven't any of you guys read Hunt for Red October? LOL Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat:
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: That res point is a heavy one, (1.13 out of the can) -- still trying to bust it!
it mor or less already did when it tapped 1.14... don'tcha think??
Remember the other day I was wondering about being 1 cent off... then it seemed to be right on yesterday, now, off by one cent again???
that's why I question it.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...thats the only reason I made the ruskie reference...
1.15 and 1.20 both want some action...
i thought we were through with the damn manipulation...
Posted by portman on :
Why do you think I made the ruskie reference. Posted by glassman on :
i know you have portman...
who remebers that Ryan was guessing about the direction of the crazy ivans tho? Posted by RyanPBF on :
he always turns left
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
at the top of the hour, lol...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
support aroud 1.04....1.02 1.01 minor
strong at >93 now, moving up to 95 EOD
Posted by glassman on :
hmmm... it appears that most of these folks 'round here are sharper than your average bowling ball Posted by RyanPBF on :
I'll catch you guys later on. I have to go to therapy that this stock is directly responsable for. J/k physical therapy who knows the firs part of this post might prove prophetic lol
Posted by Chartwalker on :
ok charts loaded, buy sig about 5 min ago, still pos...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
short term down...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
buy signal about 5 MINUTES AGO ?????
Thanks for taken chances, walker!!!LOL,,, ha ha ha ha , LMAO
Posted by Chartwalker on :
there's the drop...
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: still pos...
i agree, lol...
off to lunch...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: buy signal about 5 MINUTES AGO ?????
Thanks for taken chances, walker!!!LOL,,, ha ha ha ha , LMAO
yep at 1.09 popped to 1.11 now short term looks to be going down long term still up.
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I saw it....It just struck me a funny the way you phrased it...
Kinda like waiten for the rock to hit someone in the head and then yelling LOOK-OUT!!
Posted by trade04 on :
if the bid upticks to 1.10 we may have the runzzzz
Posted by Chartwalker on :
with that 10,000 order that went thru it just evened out, still looks to be going down... Stochastic overbought...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: if the bid upticks to 1.10 we may have the runzzzz
Is it time to pray to the Diareha Gods, trade????
Posted by Chartwalker on :
we're going down... IMO
may take a minute or two ...
Posted by maumee river rat on :
I think so too..
lookin to add on this dip......maybe......
Posted by SherriT on :
It doesn't look like it is going too far though...I like the tight range this has been trading in, except that I can't flip anymore (which is probably to my own advantage)
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Anything in that tin cann of your showen support around in the mid .90's, Walker????
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Anything in that tin cann of your showen support around in the mid .90's, Walker????
WOAH you worrying now about .90's? talk about pessimism....
Posted by Chartwalker on :
.92 rat longer .93
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I don't think that it'll fall that far. Think rats looking to read the long term, "safe zones" if you will...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
there's the drop! right on time...
Posted by trade04 on :
I thought you guys knew that charts have little to no importance in the otc....guess not....imo its more about psychological supports
for example...I'm sure a handful of people have orders for 5k+ * 1.00, because its a psychological support....then it pops back up after bouncing off .99..thats the way i see it...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
couple buys we are at "even" again...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yep buy... with that one SHORT TERM
Posted by maumee river rat on :
just lookin at possible concrete floors...
and as far as pessimism goes.... it's no more dangerouse than optimism on this one...
Posted by 10of13 on :
I have buy orders in at 1.01 and then again at .97...think it will get even close to either one of those??
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: if the bid upticks to 1.10 we may have the runzzzz
GODDdddd! i love to be right lol...folks i dont THINK the excitement is over yet =)
plenty of 10k buys hitting the tape not bad...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: if the bid upticks to 1.10 we may have the runzzzz
GODDdddd! i love to be right lol...folks i dont THINK the excitement is over yet =)
plenty of 10k buys hitting the tape not bad...
and right at 1.12... hmmmmmmmmm
Posted by Chartwalker on :
talk about watching paint dry.....
Posted by maumee river rat on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: I have buy orders in at 1.01 and then again at .97...think it will get even close to either one of those??
I know this won't help but, maybe???
Posted by Chartwalker on :
long term.. it looks like a correction is coming sell generated
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: long term.. it looks like a correction is coming sell generated
Yep, no PR before market tomorrow and I see that too.
Posted by trade04 on :
IMO the reason we arent at 10 dollars yet is because little-to-no people believe rph
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Thats why I was askin about those lower levels....
We are on the same page...
10!! you are lookin better with those buys...IMO
Could change with the wind though..
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
Posted by dog on :
You guys think drop?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
yes!!! drop, anytime...
Posted by lostone on :
i would think EOD run..
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Lookin that way to me too...
Shouldn't be Earth shattering though.IMO
This thing seems to chew 20 cents one way or the other, all the time..
Posted by Chartwalker on :
no not big. but all indicators except macd default are neg.
Macd default is shrinking... that's why I say we'll drop some first.
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
looking at the stochastic with the angle and all it should be a pretty small drop...?
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Lokin for 1.02 max....
never know
picken 1.09 for close
Posted by Chartwalker on :
nuts... locked up again... ha ha ~
no more "cheating" with my charts today! lol!
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Wow!! Not a trade in almost 10 minutes...
Good luck gang!!!
Gotta go..
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by maumee river rat: Thats why I was askin about those lower levels....
We are on the same page...
10!! you are lookin better with those buys...IMO
Could change with the wind though..
I guess that verifies that this stock is a he not a she...
I am thinking that most of these are not real trades...things just aren't "adding up"...
Watchin' to see how much it may fall to grab on a dip...might wait until the morning...which if I wait...then that 10k should come tonight....LOL
Posted by maumee river rat on :
Sounds like you need a little bit more High -end on your puter dude!!!
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by usedtobeaCRab: looking at the stochastic with the angle and all it should be a pretty small drop...?
w/ very low volume the indicators don'thave much to calculate... so as far as "HOW FAR" that's hard to say, I would say not much with the overall picture (squeeze) -or upward pressure..
JMHO ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
crab, that's where it helps to know what rat knows!!
Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
haha...i spose so...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
oh, my charts are back on! -ugly
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by dog: You guys think drop?
uh oh, dog is planning something. Posted by trade04 on :
MMs showing some pressure
Posted by Chartwalker on :
showing early buy sig... need comform...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
early buy was on TRIX and tweaked MACD fyi...
Posted those #'s in that long post w/link...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I would think this is our bottom...
Posted by dinner42 on :
Roger that, 10-4 bada bing. :-)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
Now that's bs.... they must be puching for the 1.04 level... Don't see that happening tho ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
Not to piss anyone off...(it'll go back up)...BUT....let it fall...I need more!
C'mon Baby...just a little lower...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I have to laugh, people holding! Doesn't that make you feel great about being in this! We should be going up from here IMO ~
Posted by Chartwalker on :
3 of 5 pos now...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
4 of 5 pos....... Posted by Chartwalker on :
50f5! goin g up
Posted by Chartwalker on :
this is like drinking a pot od coffee and going to a yawning contest!
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Not to piss anyone off...(it'll go back up)...BUT....let it fall...I need more!
C'mon Baby...just a little lower...
I hear ya baby..wooo hooo!
Posted by trade04 on :
BOTTOMS UP!
lol...
Posted by Chartwalker on :
well,... -- welcome to the "SHO"
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Not to piss anyone off...(it'll go back up)...BUT....let it fall...I need more!
C'mon Baby...just a little lower...
I hear ya baby..wooo hooo!
I can see this conversation is going south again........
Posted by Chartwalker on :
short term going neg again...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Not to piss anyone off...(it'll go back up)...BUT....let it fall...I need more!
C'mon Baby...just a little lower...
I hear ya baby..wooo hooo!
just alittle? if its so little why not just buy at the ask....wont make much of a difference
Posted by Chartwalker on :
now pos...
-that's what happens with little to no volume.
Posted by lostone on :
whoa, 3k shares at 1.07 went thru like less than a second
Posted by Chartwalker on :
I think it's sandwich time ~ later ~
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Not to piss anyone off...(it'll go back up)...BUT....let it fall...I need more!
C'mon Baby...just a little lower...
I hear ya baby..wooo hooo!
LOL..I've heard cheers to the rise...but some how...I can't find it in me to cheer the fall...
(whispers...c'mon...you can do it...go down baby...)
Posted by 10of13 on :
Hmmmm...Gonna proove all of us wrong and have an EOD run?
Posted by Chartwalker on :
well 10, did ya snag some?...
Posted by dog on :
Brewing....hmmm up?
Posted by 10of13 on :
Yeah...just a few...but not what I wanted...they'll be a dip...to where I want it...(I think)
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by Chartwalker: now pos...
-that's what happens with little to no volume.
Bump. still pos...
Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL...I am so confused...which way to a cheer? Up or down? ARGH!
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Yeah...just a few...but not what I wanted...they'll be a dip...to where I want it...(I think)
dude just take what you can...your gonna end up waiting and waiting for a discount of like 5 cents...then that discount will end up costing youy even more when cshd is back to 1.50 imo...are you here for a trade or for the deal? if it were the deal you wouldnt be nit picking pennies
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LOL...I am so confused...which way to a cheer? Up or down? ARGH!
I felt like that on Monday. I was performing a small flip and i couldnt decide if i wanted to cheer up-ticks or down-ticks. Both made me happy. Posted by 10of13 on :
LOL...trade04...I have my position that I am riding into the "end"...the ones I am getting now are my "Playing pieces"...so yeah...05 can make the difference...LOL...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LOL...I am so confused...which way to a cheer? Up or down? ARGH!
I cheer for it to go up.
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: LOL...I am so confused...which way to a cheer? Up or down? ARGH!
I cheer for it to go up.
I cheer it does something....this is boring...LOL
Posted by trade04 on :
str8 up now uptick do you wanna be a long with me forever? oh oh oh...or are we caught in a pump and dump...dun dun dunuh...
Posted by portman on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04: str8 up now uptick do you wanna be a long with me forever? oh oh oh...or are we caught in a pump and dump...dun dun dunuh...
U obviously have...
Too much time on your hands and it's ticking away with your sanity...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by portman:
quote:Originally posted by trade04: str8 up now uptick do you wanna be a long with me forever? oh oh oh...or are we caught in a pump and dump...dun dun dunuh...
U obviously have...
Too much time on your hands and it's ticking away with your sanity...
lol i swear i thought of that with the quickness....
Posted by cassity on :
HEY, don't any of you have jobs to go to ever? Posted by usedtobeaCRab on :
oh oh...see those 333 trades? what do they mean...those HAVE to be signals... Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: HEY, don't any of you have jobs to go to ever?
jobs? we dont need to stinkin' jobs!
Posted by lostone on :
no one wants to move..
Posted by Stockstar69 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: HEY, don't any of you have jobs to go to ever?
I'm at work now.
Posted by RichBy26 on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: HEY, don't any of you have jobs to go to ever?
I golf a couple times a week, does that count?!?!?!?! Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by trade04:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: HEY, don't any of you have jobs to go to ever?
jobs? we dont need to stinkin' jobs!
LMAO! BTW: when will we see the reverse split!! HA HA HA Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: HEY, don't any of you have jobs to go to ever?
I golf a couple times a week, does that count?!?!?!?!
It's hard work, but someone's gotta do it! Posted by cassity on :
Do any of you ever get in trouble with your wives/husbands for having an affair with your computer on a daily basis? Posted by RichBy26 on :
only when I lose $$$, but then again I try not to tell her about those days:)!!!
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by RichBy26: only when I lose $$$, but then again I try not to tell her about those days:)!!!
Been there! LOL
Posted by glassman on :
"honey? why'd you kick the dog?"
"he's just in my way dear.."
Posted by RichBy26 on :
try not to work too hard cassity! Hope you make tons of $$$ with CSHD, then you can start working part time:) LOL
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Hey all! Tunein in for the EOD run Kinda looks like a stale mate at 1.10 Not trades for over ten minutes then a few 1.10 prints? kinda seems like an afterhours late print. this is not typical of 20 minutes to close for this stock. Any theories? seems like a halt? Ima Oh wait a few more just went through. talkk about a test of nerves. grrrrr. gotta love it or hate. I'll try loving it!!!
Posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer on :
bid and ask seem to be coming together again like it did earlier. Maybe another baby run just to send us off with smiles?
Posted by 10of13 on :
hey guys...we are probably going to get asked to move soon since this is no longer under .10...so i started a new thread in the Hot Stock board...
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Do any of you ever get in trouble with your wives/husbands for having an affair with your computer on a daily basis?
Umm...let me think? NO!
Posted by BooDog on :
didn't you guys try that once before????
Oh wait not under .10 right.... forgot where I was LMAO
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Do any of you ever get in trouble with your wives/husbands for having an affair with your computer on a daily basis?
Yeah my GF doesn't like it too much. She's a little more understanding now that I talked her into putting $500 into it. She was really liking it 2 days ago:) hummmmm... If CSHD went up to $54 dollars, maybe she would love me more!!! HaHaaa LOL Ima yea I try to keep things under control. that's why I like this board and don't have to sift through a heap of crap to find a dandelion like you have to on Ihub.
Posted by cassity on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13:
quote:Originally posted by cassity: Do any of you ever get in trouble with your wives/husbands for having an affair with your computer on a daily basis?
Umm...let me think? NO!
I bet your kids complain about it!! Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
How high can we get in 5 minutes???
Posted by trade04 on :
just bought another 1,000 at 1.10 =P..
Posted by dog on :
wow big buys
Posted by Chartwalker on :
quote:Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: How high can we get in 5 minutes???
ask rat! LMAO!!
Posted by RyanPBF on :
big buys
Posted by bigstocks on :
Some huge buying going through!
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: hey guys...we are probably going to get asked to move soon since this is no longer under .10...so i started a new thread in the Hot Stock board...
True...I knew this party was still bumpin'
Posted by SherriT on :
So when are we moving to the new thread on hot stocks?
Posted by RyanPBF on :
can we close at hod
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Wild ending today...
Posted by trade04 on :
quote:Originally posted by SherriT: So when are we moving to the new thread on hot stocks?
forget that stay here
Posted by glassman on :
this stock is 1.10 plus...
has been above ten cents for a month and a half...
no need to close this thread, but the discussion should be in a more apropriate forum since the people here are usually looking for micro's... in other words? you aren't really reaching the right people
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
I agree let's not move it and say we did, and then move it and say we didn't. Either way it should stay the same with exceptional changes.
Now for something compleeeetely different?
Customer: It's my parot Polly, he is dead...
Shopkeeper: No it isn't!
Customer: It is!
Shopkeeper: No it isn't! It's sleeping...
Customer: No it isn't!
Posted by TaxBack04 on :
Sounds better if you read it with an English accent. A little Monty Pyton for you folks.
Posted by dog on :
Anything new going on yet?
Posted by 10of13 on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: this stock is 1.10 plus...
has been above ten cents for a month and a half...
no need to close this thread, but the discussion should be in a more apropriate forum since the people here are usually looking for micro's... in other words? you aren't really reaching the right people
Moved to hot stocks board...
Posted by glassman on :
it should be safe up there now... Posted by maumee river rat on :
where did everyone go????
Posted by imapoorcollegestudent on :
Hot Stocks, see ya there Rat!
Posted by Squire38 on :
Looks like big volume coming in today.
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