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The Phat Man
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above statement: IMHO
GLTA

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Let's not attack one another. We're all in this for Cash, there are no bashers in here yet. The bashers will show up once we go into the green again...lol.

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Thanks Tyler.Maybe I am a little today.I think the news today was too much like the newa may 08.But you are right about the next pr should bring pps up a lot.
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I don't know about a year. It took 2 months for this to go to .35 to .004.
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Thanks Tyler Maybe I'm a bit touchy today. I think the news was just a follow up on the May 8th news.This one will run. Just corecting My last post.a day is a week in pennyland
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WTF???? Did you guys see that? .0074?

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volume finally picking up! looks good now!
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Thats true plni! Good point! We'll see what happens with this real soon!
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1 mm left at .09
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If it did take a year and went back to thirty I would call that a good plan.But IMHO it wont take anywhere near that long,I intend to acculate another half million shares and really dont care about a time line.But hoping to see a large increase in the few days.
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I would be cool with that PLNI.

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i'm with ya plni...
would certainly love to see it rise quicker than a year. i too was more making a statement that i'm in for the long haul or short haul with this company. either way, i believe it to be a good buy and a company that will see its stock rise based on truth and smarts and not just hollow hype like 99% of the pinks.

also the L2s on that quick dip looked more like a dip by the MMs to grab stop-loss orders. makes me wonder if they're antcipating a rise and preparing for it.
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When PLNI goes up to .04 can you really sell? Or is that a MM error? PLease someone describe this too me. TY
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I don't understand your question elf.

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he is talking bout a fatfinger!!!!!11

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Fatfinger trades get errored out usually.

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Wow, that was a quick trip to the LOD. A full penny below bid. WTF

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a lot of BIG dumps today on the L2s...
possibly from those who bought in when it hit .005-ish
hopefully that will make room for steady accumulation.
still down 11% and the ask isn't looking that great. hope for a nice climb in the next week or two.

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Of course news from a big acquisition could help too Phat Man.

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You are right doniboy we live and die on news.


A day is a week in pennyland

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that would be very nice

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Well....I don't understand how this stock is sitting below .01 but, like I've said before, I ain't selling and giving into those f#$%ing MM's....she's undervalued and oversold with aquisitions on the horizon....only a matter of time before she gets to .02 and beyond.
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I dont understand either,but even the mms can't move this up without buyers.give it time to get noticed and the ride will be great.
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I believe its a legit company, but a down day after news ticks me off.

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Yeah, it's aggravating, Doniboy but plni is correct....give it time to get noticed and when the buyers come in droves it will take off. It is a legit company so it can't be kept down....just needs some recognition.
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Will we pop tomorrow???

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Doniboy, I looked at your stock, as promised.

I cannot comment much on this. I discovered there
is very little information available, specifically
there are no financial reports.

Last SEC filings were in 2003 with a reporting
termination May of 2005.

Lot of news coming out but not a single hint
of financial condition.

An oddity did appear. As you know, volume is
extremely high. However, look at the float,

Authorized Shares: 520,000,000 as of 2006-02-15
Float: 250,000 as of 2006-02-15

A quarter-million shares in the float with
millions of shares being traded during a day,
raises a major red flag. There are many explanations.
Float is not being reported correctly. A forward
split is executed since February I did not find,
or perhaps this stock is being naked shorted.

Have you checked to discover if this stock
is on the SEC SHO short list?

Current high volume is keeping prices steady.
Doubtful there will be any significant change
in prices unless really good news is released,
especially news of financial status.


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Purl Gurl,

Thanks for taking a look, I appreciate the time you took. I did, however, know that there was a forward split:

Publish Date : 2/28/2006 2:14:00 AM Source : American Local News Onlypunjab.com
First Guardian Financial Corporation (FGFC:PK) today announced that its Board has approved a 10 for 1 forward stock split of its common shares.
The record date of the forward split will be March 15, 2006 and the pay out/effective date will be March 31, 2006. Each common shareholder of record will receive 10 shares of common stock for every one share that they hold.

Does that change your anaylsis at all?

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Yes, this helps explain the high volume, least
most of it. I suspected a forward split and
assumed I missed it. Whatever the previous
float was, multiply by ten. High volume makes
better sense now.

Be careful. I am not writing this stock is bad
nor writing this stock is good. There simply
is not enough information to tell. I like their
news of late but you really need to know if they
are profitable or not.

Lending to the commercial real estate sector
is a good business, a steady business. We have
vested interest in a local bank which is making
these types of loans. They are doing very well.

Real estate is strong now, especially family
housing. Commercial real estate is right behind
family housing. This supports a positive point
for this company.

Appears they have a high end office in the
financial district in New York which suggests
they bring in enough money to pay extreme rent,
or they are about to be evicted!

A prior per share value of over a buck is most
interesting. At one time, they did have something
going for them.

On the negative side, when a stock makes such
an extreme fall, one buck down to sub-penny,
usually the company will not recover. Mine is
"usually" not always.

This company has much to overcome. Most traders
will notice their extreme fall in prices then
move on without giving a close look. They will
have to come out with some great news, some
good financials to garner interest again.

At these current prices, chances are low you
will lose money because prices will be steady.

I would keep an eye out for a reverse split.
Those are usually very bad news. This stock
is prime for a reverse split.

However, a recent forward split does discount
a reverse split. Nonetheless, if you look at
GLUV in archives here, you will discover this
company did a reverse split and a forward split
all in one week. That is very rare. I strongly
doubt there will be a reverse split anytime soon.

So, my opinion is neutral. Good news but no
financials to cause interest.

I have this on my watch list for fun. I will
post if something catches my eye.

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FGFC -- First Guardian Financial Corp.
Com ($0.0001)

Search for Dun & Bradstreet reports on this company.

Address:
300 Park Avenue
17th Floor
New York, NY 10022
USA


Website: http://www.guardianfinancialcorp.com
Phone: 212-572-4823


Business Description:
The company provides Commercial Real Estate Financing & Invests for its portfolio in small to mid sized businesses. Its primary goal is to provide short term financing within the commercial real estate market and invest in businesses either start up or growth wise throughout the United States.

State of Incorporation: DE


Officers:
Abraham Rosenman, Pres.

Outstanding Shares: Not Available

Estimated Market Cap: Not Available
Authorized Shares: 520,000,000 as of 2006-02-15
Float: 250,000 as of 2006-02-15


Current Capital Change:
shs increased by 11 for 1 split
Ex-Date: 2006-04-03
Record Date: 2006-03-17
Pay Date: 2006-03-31

http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/company_profile.jsp?symbol=FGFC

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Doniboy writes,

"I did, however, know that there was a forward split"

This is an example of why meaningful discussion
is so important. I missed that forward split. You
know about it. Now I know and other readers know.

This helps a lot to explain high volume and does
lessen concerns about naked shorting. All readers
are better informed now.

Good job pointing out what I missed. This is
so important and welcomed. This is the type
of discussion I would like to read everywhere;
people helping people.


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Great DD Purl Gurl, I think most of us here are feeling the same way. I could attribute much of the price drop to the subpenny range on the forward split, but could also attribute a lot of the current volume to recent pump fests on Ihub. Which, in my feeble mind anyway, comes out neutral. And I wholeheartedly agree that news is needed. Most of us here remain here because we are looking forward to acquisition news some time in the near future. They promised news about 2 acquisitions and have, thus far, reported only one. The first one did result in a big 400% price gain, so I have my fingers crossed for the second to repeat that.

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Doniboy, a little financial news is needed.

I am not fearful of mild losses should a company
show good potential, perhaps is in development.
Many of us like to take a chance on buying in
at the absolute high risk bottom.

Should they report a .01 to .03 per share loss,
this would not be too scary. A breakeven financial
status would be exciting with aquisitions going on.

Do not become too excited by this. An item which
caught my eye is "short term" lending to commerce.
This is legal loan sharking and is needed. This
type of loan, most often, is to replace depleted
inventory quickly, replace an expensive broken
machine, take advantage of a sudden opportunity
and other similar time sensitive events.

With the prime rate now just below eight percent,
this places short term commercial loans up into
the ten to twelve percent interest rate with
higher than normal closing fees. There is good
money in this arena.

A negative side is large turnover in lending
is needed. These loans might range from thirty
days to six months to one year. So this company
will need to bang 'em out on a regular basis.

Clearly they have some money or are way in debt.

I am interested but my personal rules will not
allow me to invest until I know their financial
status. This is strictly personal, not advice.

An interesting company. Maybe it will pop.


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Do know I almost never play sub-pennies.

A thought came to me you and other readers
might find helpful.

I have not read their news closely, yet. I just
skimmed over various articles to develop a feel
for what is happening.

In the lending business, public relations is
extremely critical. Representatives must knock
on doors, press the flesh, give business cards,
stay in touch by phone, remember birthdays and
all that, to maintain a good client base. Public
relations is the most important factor in lending.

Credibility, dependability, rates, service, are
next in line for attracting and keeping customers.

An approach to develop a better feel for how
sharp is this company, is to closely inspect
their pr news releases. You will ask,

"Is news well written?"
"Is grammar and spelling good?"
"Is news free of wild claims?"
"Is news credible and interesting?"

Those and other questions will help discern
how well spoken is this company, how well
they come across, how well they sell their
story and product.

This company must have an excellent sales staff
who are well educated, well spoken, can make a
deal and retain customers.

The quality of their news releases will provide
a hint as to how well they can sell themselves.


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This is funny, Doniboy. You know about news
releases by that other company. That company,
this week, has only severely damaged their
reputation and driven share price down almost
a dollar a share because of lousy written news
which causes confusion and fear.

How is FGFC doing, news wise, compared to the other?

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