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How many more months are you going to hold on to that dream of CIM before you realize that it isn't true. The company has never said anything other then they were going out of business and UC was RETIRING.
I know that there are still hold out over on the PCBM thread on RB that still think they are getting something over a year later. I just wonder how long are you going to claim a dead stock is going to give you these fairytales.
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I copied this from another board. Seems like someone has been in contact with Andy. It's a long one too. I guess that's possible with all the free time he has now.
cretamk: hey mr hill are u there
andy891: i is.
cretamk: how r u doing today
andy891: excellent tks and u
cretamk: my name is mike by the way. another cmkx shareholder
andy891: hi Mike.
cretamk: im doing ok. would be a little better if i knew what was going on with our company
andy891: we are in the CLOSED CLUB now
cretamk: what does that mean
andy891: as a shareholder you are now a member of a Limited Partnership. You have WON.
cretamk: what have i won
andy891: what will come.
andy891: you really don't GET IT?
andy891: one door closes and another opens...you think i was just bantering? lol
cretamk: well i could have won a share of etgmf for every million shares of cmkx or i could have won a cash divi of .10 per share
cretamk: well by that statement i guess u are inferring that cmkx is closed and etgmf is open. but waiting another 2 years for valuation i do not see as winning
cretamk: u still there?
andy891: why on earth do you think you will have to wait 2 yrs....and what about "other" assets???
cretamk: i dont know what other assets we have. they could be "got cmkx" t-shirts or billion dollar valuation for our remaining land claims
cretamk: when will the shareholders know what the other assets are?
andy891: when they figured what the frozen snapshot has in it...per revocation...all you have to do is sit and wait...you had to be in to win....now you are in...you can't leave....so you have WON.
cretamk: how long will it be until we know what we have won?
andy891: when the Task Force sorts a few things out.
cretamk: do u have an approximate timeline to when that will be
cretamk: still there?
andy891: no..but like you i hope asap. i expect the Task Force will say something fairly soon after they have time to look at the Frozen snapshot.
cretamk: is there anything you can tell me that isnt a vague statement that can be twisted into a million possibilities
andy891: nope..you have to figure this out......just consider some of the things i said along the way. and realize you are truly in....and those that did not get it are truly out.
andy891: you really don't have to figure anything out...lol you just have to be. just like i always said...lol cretamk: it is difficult to still believe after almost 2 years of waiting and not knowing what is going on
cretamk: at this point i dont have a choice. so i hope it turns out profitable
andy891: well there is much to know if you were paying attention..and not following nitwits on message boards..not to say there are not some very smart people out there who are GETTING IT.
andy891: it is not that you don't have a choice...you have been granted the opportunity to WIN..because you remained a shareholder.
cretamk: well u have said many things in the past that havent come true. like recently u told us to watch our radars for word from us or our jv's
cretamk: nothing happened
andy891: are you kidding...we got the Carolyn claim back to United Carina.. and we have just done a deal with Entourage...and CMKX now equals Entourage...LOL it is happening right in front of your eyes.
cretamk: why didnt this happen a while ago
cretamk: why did it have to wait until the day of our last word against revocation for it to happen
andy891: revocation was supposed to happen.
cretamk: so why did they fight it in the first place
andy891: to lock you in along with all other shareholders so they can now figure out who has what and the proper ratios of distribution.
cretamk: why didnt we accept revocation from the beginning
andy891: because we were at odds with the SEC...don't you find it interesting that revocation occurred exactly one year from the day the SEC attacked USCA?
cretamk: it is a little interesting, but still doesnt give me any answers
andy891: you have to think things through to get your own answers.
cretamk: at this point i am just frustrated because we are revoked and are still in the doghouse
andy891: i will tell you this....UC, Maheu, Stoecklein are playing in the BIG leagues...there is no room for error...and they are doing it all for you the shareholder.
cretamk: i dont see a reason now to still be quiet
andy891: when you don't have things done or concluded yet to your advantage of benefit...the best thing to do is keep quiet.
andy891: when they are ready they will speak.
andy891: we are in good shape...no worries on my part.
cretamk: how many shares do u personally hold?
cretamk: are u able to tell me this?
cretamk: if not, i understand
andy891: no i don't disclose that or what UC paid me to do the IR.
andy891: it is not important
cretamk: are there still deals being made, or is that part of the plan over?
andy891: could be or being finalized.
cretamk: well thank you for your time
cretamk: unfortunately i dont feel any better, but i appreciate u spending time with me
andy891: good luck in the closed club... cya
4650000 shares and still hoping! Thanks for the posts Legal, I've been in this since CMKM.
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Legal, you know what is seriously wrong with what you are doing? Some of these people bet everything on CMKX. Not to say it is any on this board but housewives and fathers. They convinced their families and friends to buy this and your false rumors that have no basis in facts are keeping them up and down. What happens if one of these people do something to themselves after the truth is final? People do crazy things when they lose everything. People like you that keep pumping them with false information as if it is some form of truth to it will be directly responsible IMO. You should be trying to break the bad news just in case. Not that you can't have some hope but reality needs to be there to. The company put out a 8-K saying it was over, They have no money and Maheu resigned. It says that as soon as the assists are given out then UC will resign leaving CMKX no more. Yet you keep on insisting there is something without no proof what so ever. By doing this you are not letting people get on with there lives and letting them slowly realize what has been said Even Frizzell who is on the team has stated there was no settlement to his knowledge and that the o/s was still 703 billion as far as he knew. Yet you keep posting these lies. I just hope god can forgive you for what you are doing to these poor people.
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STOCKGATE TODAY An online newspaper reporting the issues of Securities Fraud
Data that makes you say hmmm – It's SHO and Tell Time – November 2, 2005
David Patch
On October 31, 2005, 3 days after an SEC Administrative Judge ruled to deregister CMKX for violations of Exchange Act Rules 13a-1 and 13a- 13 by failing to file annual reports on Form 10-K or 10KSB over the past few years, CMKX Owners Group Lawyers were granted settlement failure (FTD) evidence under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) pertaining to the execution of trades for CMKX. CMKX shareholders forming this owners group believing they have been destroyed financially by the elusive `naked short'.
Today, correlating this data to previous data gathered under the FOIA by the PIPE's Report raises some serious questions about the data and the overall integrity of the system.
Representing the shareholders of CMKX, Texas Attorney Bill Frizzell requested specific information from the Securities and Exchange Commission regarding the reported settlement failures in CMKX for the Month of April 2005. The request was not seeking information that was market member specific but instead merely aggregate numbers represented in the system for each trade date for the month of April 2005. The SEC complied with such a request.
Likewise, the PIPE's Report also requested trade settlement data from the SEC under a FOIA request this time requesting the aggregate fails for the OTCBB, Pink Sheet, and AMEX listed securities during a time frame that extended from April of 2004 through August 2005. The data provided by the SEC was reported in the September Issue of the PIPE's Report. The PIPE's Report concluding in their article that Regulation SHO was not a total solution to settlement failures but merely a band- aid.
So how do the two sets of data compare? Let's just say a picture is worth a 1000 words.
According to the two sets of data, CMKX settlement failures represented between 0% and 35% of the total aggregate fails in the system for the quoting services of the OTCBB, Pink Sheets, and Amex.
Understand there are over 9000 publicly traded companies listed in those combined trading services.
To compound matters, CMKX was not listed as a Regulation SHO threshold security in April of 2005 due to a lack of up to date and accurate filings. There were however over 150 AMEX, OTCBB, and Pink Sheet Companies published on the threshold security list for fails in excess of 0.5% of their total shares outstanding.
So if CMKX owns as much as 35% of the total aggregate fails represented by 9000 companies, how many fails were represented by those 150 listed on regulation SHO threshold securities lists published?
The raw data first to aid in working through numbers.
Date Total CMKX % CMKX
04/01/2005 400,031,086 5,000,000 1.25
04/04/2005 369,703,509 7,800,000 2.11
04/05/2005 362,249,413 17,800,000 4.91
04/06/2005 361,796,939 25,843,333 7.14
04/07/2005 399,642,964 56,129,333 14.04
04/08/2005 507,353,905 17,743,333 3.50
04/11/2005 558,800,282 44,743,333 8.01
04/12/2005 353,711,670 6,009,429 1.70
04/13/2005 356,304,547 1,000,000 0.28
04/14/2005 325,056,854 10,000 0.00
04/15/2005 411,684,565 2,700,000 0.66
04/18/2005 308,502,659 10,000 0.00
04/19/2005 401,693,162 84,800,000 21.11
04/20/2005 523,115,782 82,329,000 15.74
04/21/2005 462,461,041 125,329,000 27.10
04/22/2005 523,013,137 186,270,665 35.61
04/25/2005 446,798,215 102,770,865 23.00
04/26/2005 358,804,989 10,000 0.00
04/27/2005 355,642,755 10,000 0.00
04/28/2005 359,632,068 10,000 0.00
04/29/2005 386,111,868 3,073,000 0.80
Through a quick review of EDSARS, and the reported threshold lists published for April 22, 2005, 56 of the 150+ securities listed for the AMEX, OTCBB, and Pink Sheets would require a minimum of 29 Million shares in FTD simply to qualify at minimum threshold levels of 0.5% of outstanding shares. Scaling out to 150 companies would represent nearly 100 Million shares in FTD as a minimum to qualify for Regulation SHO and these 100 Million would be additive to the CMKX FTD.
The fact that many of the companies published on the April 22, 2005 threshold list had been on for some time and remain entrenched on the list today certainly questions any possibility that these companies were any where near minimum qualification levels of 100 million.
By simple analysis, it is easy to conclude that far better than 60% of the aggregate FTD in over 9000 companies is reportedly owned by as little as 1.6% of the companies in these markets. Data I personally do not believe to be even remotely accurate as represented by the FTD information provided.
The SEC and NASD have specific sections of their web sites dedicated to informing the investing public about the problems of the OTCBB and Pink Sheet Markets. These quotation services are quoted as being ripe for scams and fraudulent activities. The SEC has taken counter measures to avoid pump and dump schemes by initiating exemptions for the industry to sell naked short into the market to control market volatility. Yet the data illustrates that less than 2% of these issuers seemingly control far better than 60% of the aggregate FTD. A metric of performance far better than the upper echelon markets of the NYSE and NASDAQ.
When questioning the data simply look at the reported FTD between April 20 and April 22.
While the FTD level in over 9000 companies remained the same [520 Million shares] the number of FTD in CMKX grew from 83 million to 186 Million representing a growth from 15% to 35% of the markets reported aggregate FTD. One company grew by 20% of the aggregate reported and the rest of the 8999 companies absorbed that number with an exact equal and opposite reduction, in two days worth of trading? Yet, between April 19 and April 20, as the markets aggregately moved up by 100 million FTD's, CMKX reduced by 2 million shares in FTD status.
Which is it, CMKX was trading as bell weather for FTD or not?
I am not sure about you but it does not take a rocket scientist to look at this evidence and decide that something is happening behind the curtain. It now time to open up that curtain and reveal the truth to the investing public.
If you are wrong, have you considered what people might do? How they might feel, if you have talked them out of this opportunity?
You continue to write as though every investor is some sort of child who believes everything they read in cyberspace. I take their ability to open a brokerage account and surf the net for investment advice as a pretty good sign of above average intelligence. And an ability to weigh and balance both sides of this story, and come to a reasoned conclusion on risk.
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Legal, there wasn't much of a opportunity. I wasn't allowed to purchase any cmkx through Scottrade at all for a year. Still can't. Also, you've just made reference to cmkx shareholders to reinvest into a cim pre IPO... that is a blatant pump again... and this statement ---> "I believe all of the jv's are being rounded up for a merger into CIM, yep, Casavant International Mining. Entourage, the known jvs, and even a few jv's that arent't known, like AZTM." ARE'NT KNOWN ... YOU knew, this is called insider trading information and you should be in trouble with the law.... AND, you know damn well people are going to see that little clue and play into some bullchit plan that you are pumping again........... You should be one of the people companies are trying to shut down. S5
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Also... that little Andy repost I believe was YOU. You have so many alias's no one can nail you down. Again, you style is showing............ S5
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quote:Originally posted by stockster5: Legal, there wasn't much of a opportunity. I wasn't allowed to purchase any cmkx through Scottrade at all for a year. Still can't. Also, you've just made reference to cmkx shareholders to reinvest into a cim pre IPO... that is a blatant pump again... and this statement ---> "I believe all of the jv's are being rounded up for a merger into CIM, yep, Casavant International Mining. Entourage, the known jvs, and even a few jv's that arent't known, like AZTM." ARE'NT KNOWN ... YOU knew, this is called insider trading information and you should be in trouble with the law.... AND, you know damn well people are going to see that little clue and play into some bullchit plan that you are pumping again........... You should be one of the people companies are trying to shut down. S5
stockster, you seem disappointed that you weren't able to invest in CMKX. ????
I didn't recommend buying into the CIM IPO, I mentioned that the company may allow shareholders who didn't get the divy to buy in PreIPO. WITH THE PROCEEDS OF ANY CASH SETTLEMENT OR ROYALTY THAT THEY RECEIVE.
Now if you received say a "nickel" royalty on all CMKX shares, wouldn't that add some legitimacy to this whole operation? If you saw a conglomerate being formed in CIM, wouldn't you like to have an opportunity to reinvest some of that money at that point?
I believed AZTM was involved because of my DD. I have brought it to this board on many occasions. But still, most shareholders believed they were the enemy when they got the Carolyn, so didn't know that they may actually be an ally.
And if you really think I am doing anything illegal, please check with will, Wallace or Ric. They can put you on to my real identity and you can file charges with the SEC. Otherwise please go away, your accusations are a mild nuisance.
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quote:Originally posted by stockster5: Also... that little Andy repost I believe was YOU. You have so many alias's no one can nail you down. Again, you style is showing............ S5
Sorry. Not my style. I don't talk to Andy. He is only allowed to give out what the company wants him to.
I have two screen names and they are both known here. And most know why I use a different one here.
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You've probably won the right to waste more money in these kind of stocks....LOL
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legal, clean out your mailbox. I want to send you a PM.
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thanks legal, no I won't go away. "So if my scenario is correct, I think the royalty recipients will be given an opportunity to reinvest that cash in a CIM pre-IPO opportunity" Now please define 'Pre-IPO', or is this a new cmkx term. Maybe a secret part of the plan. S5
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The first sale of stock by a private company to the public. IPOs are often issued by smaller, younger companies seeking capital to expand, but can also be done by large privately-owned companies looking to become publicly traded.
In an IPO, the issuer obtains the assistance of an underwriting firm, which helps it determine what type of security to issue (common or preferred), best offering price and time to bring it to market.......Investopedia
Prior to opening such an offer to the public a company will customarily make discount sales available to friends, associates, employees etc.
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CMKM Diamonds Provides Corporate Update Nov 4, 2005 2:50:00 PM Copyright Business Wire 2005 LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 4, 2005--
CMKM Diamonds Inc. today announced a corporate update to its stockholders by disclosing the following information:
Status of Entourage Agreements. On Oct. 28, 2005, Entourage Mining Ltd. completed a private placement of $1,050,000, which effectively removed all contingencies from the agreements disclosed in the Oct. 21, 2005, CMKM Form 8-K. CMKM is awaiting final receipt of the 50,000,000 shares of Entourage Mining common stock. Upon receipt of the 50,000,000 share certificate, the certificate will be held in trust by Stoecklein Law Group in the firm's bank deposit box pending distribution.
Revocation of 34 Act Reporting. On or about Oct. 28, 2005, the Securities and Exchange Commission, in response to CMKM's withdrawal of its appeal, declared Administrative Law Judge Brenda Murray's initial decision final. This effectively revoked CMKM's reporting status under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, as amended. As such, it is currently unlawful for any broker dealer to effectuate a trade in CMKM's common stock.
Distribution/Dividend of Entourage Common Stock and all other assets of CMKM. CMKM's board of directors, through the distribution Task Force described below, has resolved to distribute the 50,000,000 shares of Entourage common stock to all CMKM bona fide stockholders. In order to be considered a bona fide stockholder of CMKM, a physical stock certificate issued in his/her/its name will need to be presented to the distribution Task Force for confirmation on or before Dec. 31, 2005, or as extended at the sole discretion of the Task Force.
Electronic and/or other forms of ownership (i.e. -- brokerage statements) will not be accepted by the Task Force as evidence of ownership. Therefore, CMKM stockholders who hold their shares in "street name" will need to demand physical certificates from their broker in order to be considered a bona fide CMKM stockholder and be entitled to their proportionate share of the Entourage common stock and any other assets of CMKM to be distributed to its bona fide stockholders.
At the time of CMKM's revocation, CMKM had 703,518,875,000 shares of common stock validly issued and outstanding.
Urban Casavant, CMKM's sole officer and director, has informed the distribution Task Force that neither he nor his immediate family members will receive any of the Entourage shares in the distribution.
Distribution Task Force. As previously released, CMKM has established a distribution Task Force consisting of Robert A. Maheu, Bill Frizell and Donald J. Stoecklein. The distribution Task Force will be entrusted to ensure the shares of Entourage common stock, and any other assets of CMKM, are distributed to only CMKM bona fide stockholders. The Task Force has been given full and complete authority to use all means necessary, including bringing federal or state court legal action, to make certain all bona fide CMKM stockholders receive their proportionate allocation of the Entourage common stock and any other assets of CMKM available for distribution.
Maheu, former CMKM co-chairman and the designated trustee of the Task Force, stated, "I am fully committed to protecting the interests of bona fide CMKM stockholders, including if necessary, bringing appropriate federal or state court actions to ensure the appropriate distribution of the Entourage shares is made. When I initially took on the assignment of assisting CMKM with its compliance needs, of primary concern was doing the right thing for the stockholders. We faced a tremendous number of hurdles, including the trading halt, administrative hearing and let down of numerous professionals. However, with the continued commitment of Urban Casavant and diligent professionalism of Stoecklein Law Group, we are trying to overcome the obstacles of the past and look forward into the future towards distributing value to CMKM's bona fide stockholders. I want to commend Urban and his immediate family for deciding not to share in the distribution of the Entourage shares. This goes a long way towards showing the Casavant family's continued commitment to the CMKM stockholders." Maheu further stated, "This is a time for the CMKM stockholders to look forward towards the future and forget the past. Working as a united front will allow us to extract all available sources of value for distribution."
The Task Force will be establishing a fax line where all CMKM bona fide stockholders can fax a copy of their certificates to be matched to a certified stockholder list. All CMKM bona fide stockholders will need to be identified on or before Dec. 31, 2005, or as extended at the sole discretion of the Task Force. Once CMKM's bona fide stockholders are identified, the Task Force will issue further instructions on how and when the distributions will be made.
Management. As CMKM is effectively a non-operational company holding only the Entourage shares and intangible assets, Urban Casavant will remain as the sole officer and director of CMKM until the Task Force identifies all bona fide CMKM stockholders and all of the affairs of CMKM are wound up.
Again, neither Casavant nor any of his immediate family members will receive any of the Entourage shares in the distribution.
Nevada Minerals Default. Effective Oct. 29, 2005, CMKM was unable to cure the ongoing default with Nevada Minerals under the Operation Agreement for The American Shaft in Portovelo, Ecuador. Therefore, all of CMKM's right, title and interest in The American Shaft has been relinquished to Nevada Minerals.
Future Correspondence. CMKM stockholders are being asked to please refrain from contacting Maheu and the Stoecklein Law Group. All corporate updates will be made in press releases or other forms of distribution media as they become available. The Task Force is in the process of establishing a Web site, www.cmkmtaskforce.com, for posting of all corporate updates and other relevant information as and when it becomes available.
Source: CMKM Diamonds Inc.
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"Nevada Minerals Default. Effective Oct. 29, 2005, CMKM was unable to cure the ongoing default with Nevada Minerals under the Operation Agreement for The American Shaft in Portovelo, Ecuador. Therefore, all of CMKM's right, title and interest in The American Shaft has been relinquished to Nevada Minerals. "
Legal, are you ready to admit I was right yet. So far I have been 100% correct. Still nothing of a settlement, BECAUSE THERE ISN"T ANY. The company has never said there was. It has always been a message board fairytale with no factual support.
Also unless they mail this to every single shareholder then cert holders only getting dividends may be illegal. But then too Ceded is a legit cert holder but will they bother to fax it in. Not sure electronic holders will have the support needed to have their shares divided. Ameritrade may do it for their members though if enough ask, since they hold there own certs in this stock.
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I have already heard many complaining that its not worth the cost of pulling certs. So how many won't pull certs? What will happen to their dividend since they will not recieve it? Will the task force take it for their work? How long after Dec 31 do you have to pull cert and get your dividend. These are the questions shareholders need to be asking. Not trying to make up fairytales from nothing.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: "Nevada Minerals Default. Effective Oct. 29, 2005, CMKM was unable to cure the ongoing default with Nevada Minerals under the Operation Agreement for The American Shaft in Portovelo, Ecuador. Therefore, all of CMKM's right, title and interest in The American Shaft has been relinquished to Nevada Minerals. "
Legal, are you ready to admit I was right yet. So far I have been 100% correct. Still nothing of a settlement, BECAUSE THERE ISN"T ANY. The company has never said there was. It has always been a message board fairytale with no factual support.
Also unless they mail this to every single shareholder then cert holders only getting dividends may be illegal. But then too Ceded is a legit cert holder but will they bother to fax it in. Not sure electronic holders will have the support needed to have their shares divided. Ameritrade may do it for their members though if enough ask, since they hold there own certs in this stock.
Ric, Ed Dhonau, owner of Nevada Minerals has been in this with Urban since the beginning, and still is. There is no way he would have seriously defaulted him on the American Mine. Surely by now, you have learned to look behind the curtain.
Before a settlement can divided the "settled" from the "unsettled", all authentic shares have to be identified. So I am even more excited now that the battle has been fully engaged.
Stop and think, Ric, why would a scam company already revoked, eveb be thinking about a cert pull, much less requiring one?
Publication on the internet is sufficient notice, but don't forget they have a mailing list from the obo/nobo; and Frizzell has already done one mass mailing. Besides, I don't think there are many certs left to pull.
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Only from limited knowledge, IRA can pull certs now without penalty since the stock is considered worthless. Or they can ask their brokers to pull certs in the shareholders name and hold them in their accounts for them.
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quote:Originally posted by Ric: "Nevada Minerals Default. Effective Oct. 29, 2005, CMKM was unable to cure the ongoing default with Nevada Minerals under the Operation Agreement for The American Shaft in Portovelo, Ecuador. Therefore, all of CMKM's right, title and interest in The American Shaft has been relinquished to Nevada Minerals. "
Legal, are you ready to admit I was right yet. So far I have been 100% correct. Still nothing of a settlement, BECAUSE THERE ISN"T ANY. The company has never said there was. It has always been a message board fairytale with no factual support.
Also unless they mail this to every single shareholder then cert holders only getting dividends may be illegal. But then too Ceded is a legit cert holder but will they bother to fax it in. Not sure electronic holders will have the support needed to have their shares divided. Ameritrade may do it for their members though if enough ask, since they hold there own certs in this stock.
Ric, Ed Dhonau, owner of Nevada Minerals has been in this with Urban since the beginning, and still is. There is no way he would have seriously defaulted him on the American Mine. Surely by now, you have learned to look behind the curtain.
Before a settlement can divided the "settled" from the "unsettled", all authentic shares have to be identified. So I am even more excited now that the battle has been fully engaged.
Stop and think, Ric, why would a scam company already revoked, eveb be thinking about a cert pull, much less requiring one?
Publication on the internet is sufficient notice, but don't forget they have a mailing list from the obo/nobo; and Frizzell has already done one mass mailing. Besides, I don't think there are many certs left to pull.
That is probably the most stupid statement that I have ever heard. The company just PR'd it in black and white and you still don't get it. Geeze legal what medication are you on.
They said they defaulted on it period. Lay off the koolaid for two seconds and smell the chit your pumping. Now I am starting to wonder who you might really be after that statement.
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Wait. somewhere back in time I thought UC owned nevada minerals or controlled it somehow. Or his son or cousins..... My head hurts from reading this thread anyhow and I don't want to look anymore up .... Legal ..."Only from limited knowledge, IRA can pull certs now without penalty since the ""stock is considered worthless"". Or they can ask their brokers to pull certs in the shareholders name and hold them in their accounts for them. " are you stating that cmkx is claimed worthless at this time..??
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Of course stockster, it is revoked, and if there was any record of residual income, it was in the fifth digit. Anticipatory profits shouldn't have any bearing. It would based on the value on the day it is pulled. All IMO
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Well, the last time I looked, when a stock is claimed worthless, you are no longer a shareholder of record... no?
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Ric, purely speculative, but what would be the end results if Nevada is in the CIM roll up of JVs?
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