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hey how come i never got my memo about the vegas trip?? i could of sworn i requested it some time ago....
*once again feels left out*
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quote:Originally posted by George: I have got to quit trying this stock. everytime I buy it at the BOTTOM it goes lower....I have never timed this one right....
Put your next buy in for .0012 and then immediately put in a sell for .0016. It might run to .0019, but that risk is up to you. I personally buy on the days it hits a new 52-week low (even if it's not the 52-week low) and then sell on the days it hits a 9-day high.
In my opinion, there's no doubt about it: Frank is diluting and this stock is heading to .0001. The question is: "Are you going to make money as it does?"
Did you hear that Frank? I'm a stockholder who says you are diluting. My email is g-invest@gravito.com. If you'd like you can sue me for speculating, but then you've got to prove you're not diluting. So litigate already. I'll await an email so you can get my address. Hope to hear from you soon!
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hey guys, i talked this afternoon to richard for quite a long time until he had a client come in...the main part of the convo (30 minutes) was concentrated in the pps and manipulation issue...lots and lots was said and i am now ready to hold long...the talk went over really well and many little questions were answered in regards to the trading of Q and what can be expected....
One of the major issues, well, the MAJOR issue he gave confirmation of was that a little while back Frank got confirmation that when we see the large 9M share blocks go through, this is not naked shorting, or shorting or buying of any kind..it is transferring of shares between a brokerage house...now, he said that they just confirmed this on 2 particualar days...Think of it like, NITE has 7 MM trading Q, and when 1 guys invenotry gets low, 1 MM will transfer shares over to the other guy...(Probably what is going on AH as well..)
Now he also added that he felt or even knew for a fact that 70+% of Q shareholders are daytraders and this is one huge thing for the pps trading in a range...Richard really harped on the issue of Frank not selling and saying that Frank and Rene both have told him they havent sold a single of their own shares...Now Richard said that Frank may dilute a million here or there or whatever, but in now way is it what is holding the pps down.(i think he said this because of the valcom issue today...What he means is that Frank may dilute like 1M shares a month for who knows what, but it is nothing when it is compared to the daily volume.)
then we talked about betting babes question regarding the dirty shell issue and how Rene said in a CC that he said it would be hard to pass an audit..Richard said that Rene is extremely intelligent when it comes to finacnes etc. and had worked for years (i think he said years) on passing an audit..now in richards estimation, he believes that when Frank signed on these lawyers and audit team that these lawyers found a loophole in passing the audit to become fully reporting...
hmmmm, what else......(it was a long call and a lot talked about that i didnt expect to ask.) we talked about vert and nite being on ask, and i definately let him hear my thoughts on the manipulation (the thoughts that i had posted on allstocks regarding the manipulation.) he didnt disagree and said it could very well be happening, but he didnt think it was the only issue...daytrading etc. ...awwwwww....hmmmm....
well, near the end i finished up with broad questions .. 1. honey labrador being host of q brunch ----had heard this and knew scott said it but frank hasnt confirmed it just yet..but yes he had heard this...
2. pride program sharing (jack e jett show)... ------it is program sharing...(richard started laughing) and said well if you can call it that...i said well what can they offer..and richard said that outtv didnt have to much to offer Q..ahhaahahhah, but said it was a step in the right direction to build a good relationship....
ohh yeah---we talked about how Richard said that there were much larger shareholders in place than the average message board poster...i mentioned jennifer and yes he knew of her...richard brought up the point that he had lots of interest from institions, not as much from hedge funds though...and some big brokerage funds also own Q, but he would not tell me to what extent....he said the big institions were waiting on financials to be released....
welll, again, very sorry this is so confusing as the things just came to me as i was writing...im sure i forgot more of the little things, but all in all, it made me realize that in the end Q's pps will correct and find the market price....it also makes me feel better that Frank has bigger shareholders at work here that will not except anything but the truth and professionalism...good luck guys, and hope this helps out a bit!
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I sent it to the board walk by way of the reading railroad
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quote:Originally posted by Monopoly Money: hey how come i never got my memo about the vegas trip?? i could of sworn i requested it some time ago....
*once again feels left out*
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quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: ...Frank has bigger shareholders at work here that will not except anything but the truth and professionalism...good luck guys, and hope this helps out a bit!
Then whats the O/S and Float. That statement is holding no water because that is the key for any big time shareholder. And if they are getting info that other shareholders are not then that can have serious consequences.
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Thanks for sharing, MillerTIME. You have a great memory. I would have to type it as I talked--it's an age thing!
Do you recall if Richard mentioned the stockholder meeting/CC?
IMO, most contracts will be signed before the meeting is scheduled.
Therefore, since most of our questions will already be answered prior to the meeting, it will be more of "look what we have accomplished and what to look forward to in the future".
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quote:Originally posted by suzainiee: Thanks for sharing, MillerTIME. You have a great memory. I would have to type it as I talked--it's an age thing!
Do you recall if Richard mentioned the stockholder meeting/CC?
IMO, most contracts will be signed before the meeting is scheduled.
Therefore, since most of our questions will already be answered prior to the meeting, it will be more of "look what we have accomplished and what to look forward to in the future".
yeah sorry suzainee, i completly forgot...i know richard well enough now though, that i would put odds on 90% he would say that he doesnt have an exact date yet and when he does he will inform the shareholders...(lol,) i know the call doesnt say too much, but its just interesting to talk to richard and find things out the hard way!
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MillerTime, Good job and thanks for doing that....however, as Ric said, what's the A/S, O/S??? WHEN will the financials be put out? Frank dilutes a million here, a million there? How many millions? A prelimenary report of the income and A/S, O/S, would be a good thing for everyone, not stating that "they will hold the audit while a stock manipulation investigation is going on". Come on....Sorry, this just sounds like more side-stepping..I guess a day trade it is ..GLTA...
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and let me clarify one of my statements quickly that already seems to be taken out of context...richard did say yes that Frank may on occasion dilute or give people shares in exchange for things, but NO HE IS NOT DILUTING..he said this repeatedly...
lets try and let everyone understand this, Q is definately not the one holding this pps down, so enough of the diluting issue...i daytrade stocks all day long, and yes i know that the indicators are definately there and in place, i will not argue with you on that...i hate seeing any dilution of any regdex coming out on a stock, but i firmly believe that Q is not diluting...and im not saying this because i am stuck in the stock and have forced myself into believing this...im in at .0018 so i could have easily been out a week ago for a sizeable profit
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If your referring to my post, I didn't say dillution....and yea, I daytrade....but thanks again for your DD...I know I appreciate it....GL
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quote:Originally posted by Marty: MillerTime, Good job and thanks for doing that....however, as Ric said, what's the A/S, O/S??? WHEN will the financials be put out? Frank dilutes a million here, a million there? How many millions? A prelimenary report of the income and A/S, O/S, would be a good thing for everyone, not stating that "they will hold the audit while a stock manipulation investigation is going on". Come on....Sorry, this just sounds like more side-stepping..I guess a day trade it is ..GLTA...
yeah marty, i understand exactly what your saying about o/s a/s float etc...everyone wants to know this...and i am by no means an insider..i dont even ask about this anymore..if i were to ask richard he would say he has nothing to do with the audit until 3 days it is to be realeased he will put the PR together....and i tried to clarify myself as to the million here and million there..it was a bad way of saying that NO FRANK is not diluting, although to covor his ass, he is not going to say he NEVER dilutes...i think that richard said this because of the Valcom issue today...now, if Franks dilution was an issue, he would by now have to have diluted at least 2-5 Billion shares to hold the PPS this low while the TW , cox, etc PR's all came out...
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quote:Originally posted by suzainiee: We did throw a lot of questions at you. lol
Thanks again for posting.
Even though we know Richard cannot provide more info, we always want more, anyway.
ahhaahhahha oh yeah , trust me i wouldnt mind seein the numbers either!!!funny thing is we all think that the stock is gonna shoot up after the financials are realeaesd...so this would prove the case that noboby thinks there is dilution..but meanwhile, most people are now saying dilution is the problem, but still think we are gonna shoot once the financials are released...(im not talkin about anyone in particaluar, just scannin the various boards.)
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MillerTime, Personally, I think the OS is 20-30 bill+....this would be AFTER the 53% buyback....speculation, yea, my opinion, yea.....but Q needs to come clean with their financial position....hiding under the "dirty shell" is now old.....based on their PR's, they should be generating revenue,.....so, why wouldn't they be happy to show it? Even if it's minimum? ...good for business, good for investors and potential invetors....hiding this info? For what? Again, this is MY opinion....Thanks for the DD....good job...GL
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millertime not that it matters but i just tossed u five stars i appreciate all your time and post great DD
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I think the a/s is about to max up , and following that it may get even uglier , QBID trading pattern remind me of WFTV trading pattern just before the R/S , I speculated R/S then at WFTV board , I will not be suprised if R/S here takes place once PPS hits .0009 or so . All that just my honest humble opinion .
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You have no guts g. If you want to impress us, then take out the word speculating and define diluting in exact terms. You are leaving in too many CYA outs if you are trying to prove a point.
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quote:Originally posted by George: I have got to quit trying this stock. everytime I buy it at the BOTTOM it goes lower....I have never timed this one right....
Put your next buy in for .0012 and then immediately put in a sell for .0016. It might run to .0019, but that risk is up to you. I personally buy on the days it hits a new 52-week low (even if it's not the 52-week low) and then sell on the days it hits a 9-day high.
In my opinion, there's no doubt about it: Frank is diluting and this stock is heading to .0001. The question is: "Are you going to make money as it does?"
Did you hear that Frank? I'm a stockholder who says you are diluting. My email is g-invest@gravito.com. If you'd like you can sue me for speculating, but then you've got to prove you're not diluting. So litigate already. I'll await an email so you can get my address. Hope to hear from you soon!
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quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: and sorry guys if i forgot to ask your questions, i had to look back quite a few pages to find some of the questions...
one i did leave out on purpose was betting babes question about lbs revenues???just didnt know what this was...sorry...(not as Q adept as many)
I am so disappointed that you did not ask Richard about me That would have gotten an interesting reply no doubt as I spend my time badgering him.
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hey Doc I was reading up on the PNN Palm Springs tv network. They promote their service as being by subscription and uninterrupted by commercials. So, I guess they won't have advertisers for what thats worth.
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quote:Originally posted by MillerTIME: hey guys, i talked this afternoon to richard for quite a long time until he had a client come in...the main part of the convo (30 minutes) was concentrated in the pps and manipulation issue...lots and lots was said and i am now ready to hold long...the talk went over really well and many little questions were answered in regards to the trading of Q and what can be expected....
One of the major issues, well, the MAJOR issue he gave confirmation of was that a little while back Frank got confirmation that when we see the large 9M share blocks go through, this is not naked shorting, or shorting or buying of any kind..it is transferring of shares between a brokerage house...now, he said that they just confirmed this on 2 particualar days...Think of it like, NITE has 7 MM trading Q, and when 1 guys invenotry gets low, 1 MM will transfer shares over to the other guy...(Probably what is going on AH as well..)
Now he also added that he felt or even knew for a fact that 70+% of Q shareholders are daytraders and this is one huge thing for the pps trading in a range...Richard really harped on the issue of Frank not selling and saying that Frank and Rene both have told him they havent sold a single of their own shares...Now Richard said that Frank may dilute a million here or there or whatever, but in now way is it what is holding the pps down.(i think he said this because of the valcom issue today...What he means is that Frank may dilute like 1M shares a month for who knows what, but it is nothing when it is compared to the daily volume.)
then we talked about betting babes question regarding the dirty shell issue and how Rene said in a CC that he said it would be hard to pass an audit..Richard said that Rene is extremely intelligent when it comes to finacnes etc. and had worked for years (i think he said years) on passing an audit..now in richards estimation, he believes that when Frank signed on these lawyers and audit team that these lawyers found a loophole in passing the audit to become fully reporting...
hmmmm, what else......(it was a long call and a lot talked about that i didnt expect to ask.) we talked about vert and nite being on ask, and i definately let him hear my thoughts on the manipulation (the thoughts that i had posted on allstocks regarding the manipulation.) he didnt disagree and said it could very well be happening, but he didnt think it was the only issue...daytrading etc. ...awwwwww....hmmmm....
well, near the end i finished up with broad questions .. 1. honey labrador being host of q brunch ----had heard this and knew scott said it but frank hasnt confirmed it just yet..but yes he had heard this...
2. pride program sharing (jack e jett show)... ------it is program sharing...(richard started laughing) and said well if you can call it that...i said well what can they offer..and richard said that outtv didnt have to much to offer Q..ahhaahahhah, but said it was a step in the right direction to build a good relationship....
ohh yeah---we talked about how Richard said that there were much larger shareholders in place than the average message board poster...i mentioned jennifer and yes he knew of her...richard brought up the point that he had lots of interest from institions, not as much from hedge funds though...and some big brokerage funds also own Q, but he would not tell me to what extent....he said the big institions were waiting on financials to be released....
welll, again, very sorry this is so confusing as the things just came to me as i was writing...im sure i forgot more of the little things, but all in all, it made me realize that in the end Q's pps will correct and find the market price....it also makes me feel better that Frank has bigger shareholders at work here that will not except anything but the truth and professionalism...good luck guys, and hope this helps out a bit!
It's not a case of hiding behind a dirty shell,but cleaning up the dirty shell. I too have had a long conversation with Richard on that topic and Rene has been working for quite a few years to clean it up. I forget the term Richard used but Rene does not have a certain qualification to complete the audit issue and finalize clean up. That was why the audit company was brought in. If you read over all the DD on all these threads and god help me I say the bashers too, you will notice the bashers have pointed out an extensive list about a year ago of Franks incompletion and failings.
Rigorous effort has been put forth to clean up the shell and move forward. Last post I saw the list was narrowed down to 2 items that where of major concern and one of those being the audit release. That in itself has shown us that Q is hard at work to move forward and become fully reporting. MT did some excellent DD and has found there is institutional holders amongst others that as well hold large sums of shares. With the investigation presently being done by Q, more is now known about the mm’s and the day traders. I am sure although complicated, Q does have a plan.
There is way too much at stake for it to fall apart. As for the AS and OS counts, well that is anyone’s estimate until the audit is released. Personally I believe the count will be less than 5 billion for OS and that is aiming high.
quote:Originally posted by Marty: MillerTime, Personally, I think the OS is 20-30 bill+....this would be AFTER the 53% buyback....speculation, yea, my opinion, yea.....but Q needs to come clean with their financial position....hiding under the "dirty shell" is now old.....based on their PR's, they should be generating revenue,.....so, why wouldn't they be happy to show it? Even if it's minimum? ...good for business, good for investors and potential invetors....hiding this info? For what? Again, this is MY opinion....Thanks for the DD....good job...GL
I am now even more convinced that FOT is in the right mode on this. He is looking at the mechanics of the charts. Richard seems to be suggesting that daytrading keeps this thing down, so this is chart mechanics, not MM's f'ing with the physics. Until the audit this thing is going to run mechanically at these levels. Might as well buy in when FOT says so and hold on at the lame highs and save up for the next low so you can buy in again at the next price.
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I use Bolero, but thats an broker in belgium, I know that is much more then you all pay, but I can buy on each market in the world, on euronext I just pay 15 euro a trade, what I was doing before I came here, can you trade at euronext and all other markets in the world? and if yes how much do you have to pay for?
quote:Originally posted by froggy: The 10.99 commission is for each individual ORDER, buy or sell. I think thats what you are saying, but clarifying just incase. If you place an order to buy 2 million share (assuming it is an All Or Non order) and it goes throughm you ONLY pay 10.99. Again, I believe this is what you are saying, but just wanted to clarify incase you were thinking something else.
Yes Polo you are corect again , Thank you
Jonas Invest, $29-95 is way too much in my opinion, Who do you use?
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Hey Whizzer....this thread's getting long. Think it's time for a new one? Miller Time...thank you, thank you, thank you! You are 'da man' Lil... missed ya, hon. Good to see you back!! Ric...missed you too. Hope all is well with your family.
To my fellow Texas Holdem Poker Player..you should be back home today from your LV trip. Hope you won BIG TIME!!
Good luck to us all. Waiting for the green. Just found out we got another grandbaby on the way. Due in January. Will find out tomorrow if we need to buy pink or blue clothes!!
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That would have gotten an interesting reply no doubt as I spend my time badgering him.
