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Legal, for all the hard times you have been given, I have to compliment you on your DD. Although you havn't let all the cats out of the bag, you seem to have done alot of DD.
The only problem is that UC is running the show, outside of that I think CMKX had a chance to live and grow.
Damnn UC!
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Thanks just, but UC isn't running the show, and hasn't been since RG came onboard. It has been all Stoecklein, with Maheu overseeing the legal portion, and following the plan laid out by Glenn. UC has been doing what he does best in the interim, overseeing the mining and drilling operations. He will lay low for at least another week, imo, while this thing plays out with the attornies.
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justplayin, you made legals day, admiring him for his forbearance, and pitying him for his hardship:
maoschist: 4. enjoyment of hardship: the tendency to invite and enjoy misery of any kind, especially in order to be pitied by others or admired for forbearance
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: If the market makers can cover 2 billion shares a day on a 3 trillion share ns, it will only take them 1500 trading days to cover. About 5 years.
I was asking when judgement day is, not how long it would take to fulfill a pipe dream. When does the court move on this stock?
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Well Thorn, they have moved already. An initial decision to revoke with a 21 day appeal time. The company and the O/G made a proposal to the SEC and court, the Judge, had it in her hands before her intitial decision and has not ruled on it. Having it prior to her action might hint that she pretty much ignored it.
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Mr. Casavant went on to further state "We are pleased to announce that we have moved out of the hookah bar and have re-located our corprorate offices to the phone booth across the street, all in the name of increasing shareholder value. This is a proud day for the Company and shareholders alike."
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Speaking of drilling and please correct me if I am wrong, but don't I remember something in the Hearing testimony that there were no drilling expenses in 2004? If true, the conclusion should be there WAS NO drilling in 2004, correct? If the conclusion is true, account for the following:
May/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Phase #1 Drilling of Carolyn Pipe completed. Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces 'Carolyn Pipe' at 900+ Feet and Still in Kimberlite. Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Progress on Drilling and Exploration Program. Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces That Drilling Has Commenced Two Days Ahead of Schedule in the Fort a la Corne Area. Mar/04 - CMKM Diamonds, Inc. Announces Drilling Program to Commence in the Fort a la Corne Area on Wednesday, March 17, 200 Feb/04 - CMKM announces drilling program to commence. Jan/04 - CMKM announces purchase of drill rig, accessories, and extra equipment for drilling. Company Signs One Year Contract With Experienced Drill Foreman to Oversee Drill Operation. Program - Commits to Drilling Numerous Holes in Search Of Kimberlite Pipes in the Forte a la Corne Area and Green Lake Area
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: ed, a little hint, check with Double K Excavation near Regina. Owner: Emmerson Koch
And a little hint to you, legal. Bet UC has his fingers somewhere in that bowl (not that he would even know what a finger bowl is) as well as the following:
Name: CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING CORPORATION Type: Corporation File Number: C1291-2003 State: NEVADA Incorporated On: January 21, 2003 Status: Current list of officers on file Corp Type: Regular Resident Agent: BUSINESS WORKS INC (Accepted) Address: 1603 MOWBRAY CT HENDERSON NV 89074- President: URBAN CASAVANT Address: PO BOX 27740 LAS VEGAS NV 89109- Secretary: CAROLYN CASAVANT Address: PO BOX 27740 LAS VEGAS NV 89109- Treasurer: EMMERSON KOCH Address: PO BOX 27740 LAS VEGAS NV 89109-
Please note, legal, the name of the "Treasurer". I am willing to bet it is another demonstration of a conflict of interests by both Koch and by Casavant. Therefore, what would you expect from Koch if you wasted time calling him? Same old talk or lack thereof!
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"On July 13, 2005, the Registrant established a new temporary principal executive office at 4760 South Pecos Road, Suite 211, Las Vegas, Nevada 89121. The office is leased on a month-to-month basis for $399 per month." --------------------
Note the "month to month basis". Now we know how long UC's Master Plan extends from time to time. Really provides assurances that CMKX will be around for a little while, huh? Keep it up, UC. You continue to make deep impressions!
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But are what records that exist still in UC's house? What is it, just a phone and a family member to answer it? Maybe Andy? Better yet, maybe Melvin!
You see, unlike Richard Nixon, UC might have burned some records either before or after he took the 5th.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: Mr. Casavant went on to further state "We are pleased to announce that we have moved out of the hookah bar and have re-located our corprorate offices to the phone booth across the street, all in the name of increasing shareholder value. This is a proud day for the Company and shareholders alike."
Darn near choked on my coffee....
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The party line is going to be they rented month to month because they have the goods, and such a lowly temporary office won't fit their image as KING of diamonds. So when this little inconvenient filing problem is behind them they will move to some Manhattan penthouse suite, an address more befitting the KING of diamonds. Hope this guys next address will be a Federal prison somewhere. OK noah, we're ready for your DD and highflying bullchit regarding this all important 8K and the implications of it, along with a ton of value theories why they chose it........blah, blah, blah.
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So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.
Second, yes Wallace you are right no drilling expenses in 2004 for CMKX. That's because they are being done by JVs or one of the numbered Sask Ltd companies that actually own the claims. That is what I have been trying to say all along. The company that owns the claims is the ones that order the drilling. By now, all or most of our claims, are, or have been moved into safer "ownership", therefore no, or limited, expenses are alloted to CMKX. Please try to look at the bigger picture. Drop the prejudices against CMKX that are clouding your judegement and try to see what is really going on, and you may clearly see what is about to happen.
Third, Emmerson Koch is a long time friend of Urban's, preceeding the CMKX ventures, and someone he can trust to hold the company assets in a separate corporation until the time is right. He is the holder of all of the Sask Ltd claims. And yes, he is quite easy to talk to, and a very friendly and helpful individual. If you want to go back to the recent Vegas race postings, you will find that he is the one that told multiple shareholders that 50 some holes had been punched this year. Or you could just call him a liar, fail to realize that Urban's friend, who holds most of the claims, and an excavation company, just might know something about that subject. And where do you get the idea that it is a conflict of interest to serve as the Treasurer of CMKX while owning holding companies with their claims? That sort of thing is frequently done.
The telephone number for the IR goes through Urban's Sask residence which Melvin maintains for him when he is in Vegas, and the phone number is registered in Melvin's name. I think he is still an employee in Sask and has been since Andy got the IR's job, but I don't know that for sure.
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I figured it out, there's magic mushrooms ground up in the koolaid. Thats why it cost $25 to join th OG. They send you a starter kit. Nice story but still seen not one ounce of proof that one more hole then the 15 was drilled, by CMKX or Santa clause. And if all the assets are moved, what makes you think that you will ever see them again. UC's word or lack there of. I am sure that World com and Enron shareholders believe the manure that they were feed too.
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Too busy, legal, to address everything. However, you evidently do not know what represents a conflict of interests.
Giving that $1 mil over to CIM was a "Conflict of Interest"....two separate companies controlled by Casavant.
Dealing with Koch with any kind of drilling company (and probably UC really owns most of it) while Koch is Treasurer or related in some way to Casavant is a "Conflict of Interests".
You state: "And where do you get the idea that it is a conflict of interest to serve as the Treasurer of CMKX while owning holding companies with their claims?"
That is precisely what a conflict of interests is!
Let's look at Koch for example. As Treasurer a deal comes up and he has to be involved with negotiating a contract for CMKX. It's a drilling contract and his firm is the highest bid for exactly the same work, etc. It would probably be in CMKX's best interest under those conditions to take the lowest bid. It would be in Koch's and his company's best interest to secure the contract at that highest bid. That represents a conflict of interests that should never exist in the first place. The same thing would be true re CMKX and CIM....Casavant and Casavant, just a different scenario.
You say: "That sort of thing is frequently done."
Show me one company on the Big Board with anything similar and I can guarantee you there is an agreement to eliminate it. Sure, on much lesser markets you may find such goings on (in the OTCBB stocks and especially in the Pinks), but in no way is it considered an ethical practice. It permits games and monies to be siphoned away or to one company or the other depending upon managements' personal interests (incl. their families) as opposed to what is in the best interest of shareholders.
I frequently dealt with such situations and arranged termination agreements of such conflicts.
PS: Seems to me that DeSormeau was also "a long time friend" of Urban Casavant's too. Like I have said before, "birds of a feather stick together".
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i'm shocked, just caught up in the days banter & no mention of todays trading???. maybe my microcap is broken but 26 trades for a total of just under 141 million & 50% at .0004 the rest at .0001. what is very strange is not 1 mm listed on L2's, zero, nada, nobody home. he11 even ICAN has a bunch of mm's listed. i don't check L2's for cmkx very often, been a few weeks since the last time but if shares trade there has to be an mm, there were a bunch the last time i looked. fat fingers always go thru most every day & maybe they just never punched in the extra zero so the sells were at .00001 & the buys at .00004 (bunch in a row too) but ya still need an mm.
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bill, it has been awhile. CMKX has been on the greys with no listed MMs since they were suspended. And there was volume under two billion again today.
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was wondering legal, thanks. it sure didn't seem normal. microcap normally has the volume right. tho at 1 point today it was over 1 billion but not enough trades to equal that.
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ok bashers we need to give credit when due. from figuring on pb32 it works out to 250 sq/ft of office space but if your about to be revoked & the SEC wants a real office to put on any filings $399 a month & a month to month contract makes sence...but look at your neighbors...should warn ya some nudity on both sites...before & afters look good on the last 1...lol
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So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.
LEGAL: Urban is in his basement because he is to damm lazy to move his fat azz to an office and also because its a scam. What a joke a multi million dollar operation in his basement. Geez man you have lost it
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.
LEGAL: Urban is in his basement because he is to damm lazy to move his fat azz to an office and also because its a scam. What a joke a multi million dollar operation in his basement. Geez man you have lost it
Quite the contrary Doc, the multimillion dollar operations aren't in CMKX,or his basement. IMO
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Those "million dollar operations" are probably in the slot machines.
But for sure some of the millions went to sponser his hobby, drag racing. I wish shareholders would buy 703 billion shares from me so I could go to the track every week.
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quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: So many questions, so much bashing. Let's see where do I start. First, the business is operated from Urbans house for security. Apparently he did learn from Nixon's Watergate. The house has round the clock security, therefore the safest place for sensitive company documents. IMO the new address is just a mail drop for company correspondence and nothing more.
LEGAL: Urban is in his basement because he is to damm lazy to move his fat azz to an office and also because its a scam. What a joke a multi million dollar operation in his basement. Geez man you have lost it
Quite the contrary Doc, the multimillion dollar operations aren't in CMKX,or his basement. IMO
Exactly, they do not exist, only one big "scam" in Urban's basement with his fat azz
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* The friendliest person you have ever met. * People think you are wonderful and know you have connections, influence, or financial resources. * They have all the answers. * Hiding a greater "truth" from you until a more "appropriate" time. (Estabrooks, 1999)
The Organization
* A Totalitarian worldview * Exploitation: There is pressure to give money, to spend a great deal of money on special projects. Exploitation can be financial, physical, or psychological. * Alienation * Exclusivity: Secretiveness or vagueness by followers regarding activities and beliefs; recruiting and fund-raising with hidden objectives and without full disclosure; use of "front groups".
The Followers
* Extreme obsessiveness regarding the group/leader resulting in the exclusion of almost every practical consideration.
* Whenever the group/leader is criticized or questioned it is characterized as "persecution".
* Uncharacteristically stilted and seemingly programmed conversation and mannerisms, cloning of the group/leader in personal behavior.
* Dependency upon the group/leader for problem solving, solutions, and definitions without meaningful reflective thought. A seeming inability to think independently or analyze situations without group/leader involvement.
* Hyperactivity centered on the group/leader agenda, which seems to supercede any personal goals or individual interests.
* Anything the group/leader does can be justified no matter how harsh or harmful.
* Followers believe that outside forces are out to get the gtoup/leader.
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Everyone one of those points applies to these faithful fools. I never refered to them as a cult, but after seeing that definition it sure is difficult to argue that they're not a cult.
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