quote:Originally posted by Doctoall: Legal I would advise you to pull back just a fraction of an inch from Urban's behind. You will accomplish two things: 1. Get some oxygen to your brain and 2. Get a different view other. It would appear that you have tunnel vision
Investigate those possibilities
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I have one question for you,why do you fight so hard for something that will never fly? Correct me if I am wrong, but I can only think of 2 answers: 1/ your an insider connected to the family or business some how or;
2/ You own so many shares that you are loosing your pants or house or what ever.
I have read everything till the cows come home and can only come up with those 2 deductions. Yes I have owned some of this stock in the past and learned my lesson. My questions are more curiousity.
Good to speak with you again. I only have a couple of minutes then have to run. I will check in later.
You and I discussed NSS before and had friendly but opposite opinions as to whether or not it existed and how large it could be. We know the issues at the heart of this investigation are the company filings. We also know that the share structure is at the heart of the company filings. We also know that when CMKX files each and every insiders postion will be shown and the float will be known. What happens if CMKX files everything before close of business on 4/17 and the float is shown to be very low, possibly certificates only? There would obviously be enough information at the judge's fingertips to show a massive NSS position. How can a judge with the primary concern of "protecting" shareholders and who is looking to revoke CMKX's ability to trade ignore an issue like this?
I believe the reason NSS was mentioned in our response is two fold. First, it says to the SEC we will file and our share structure will finally become public. The numbers are in our favor and you better be prepared for the repercussions. Second, it lets the shareholders know CMKX hasn't been ignoring the NSS issue and that it is alive and well. It also leads me to believe that CMKX has the proof it needs otherwise they wouldn't mention it at all.
In my opinion the end of this week should be very interesting. I look forward to your comments. TIA...
quote:Originally posted by dwman: A man can have no better friend than one who was once his enemy. Guess who said that? Yep, it's original... me. I know from experience.
Welcome back dwman, congrats on your new grandson. Waiting for 2 new grand daughters here and that will make a total of 5 ( 1 grandson and 4 grand daughters)
You rascal!!! I can't get a grandaughter. Both of my kids have two and will have no more. Grandkids are wonderful.
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.....and now for something completely unrelated. Upside sent this to me. Why he didn't share with everyone, I don't know. If you buy CMKX stock you may also be sucker enough to send this guy some of your cash.
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Didn't many of the faithful push somewhat the same kind of fundraising for Melvin and wife? Wonder what they did with the money. I doubt if he was foolish enough to buy CMKX stock with it.
With reference to the "shorts", they're more to legal's liking. LOL
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I have one question for you,why do you fight so hard for something that will never fly? Correct me if I am wrong, but I can only think of 2 answers: 1/ your an insider connected to the family or business some how or;
2/ You own so many shares that you are loosing your pants or house or what ever.
I have read everything till the cows come home and can only come up with those 2 deductions. Yes I have owned some of this stock in the past and learned my lesson. My questions are more curiousity.
Buckwheatbob, I have asked myself that question many times. I got in this stock back in January of last year. I put a hundred bucks in it for a million shares at .0001 in hopes of turning a quick double at .0002, and out. It sat and did nothing for a long, long time. And just as a matter of housecleaning I finally put in a sell order at .0001 hoping to get my money back less commissions. But, just to let you all know I am human, LOL, I accidentally hit the buy button instead and was suddenly blessed with 2 million shares.
Now at that point I had already done some minimal due diligence even before buying it the first time, and occasionally watched to see what else the company was up to by way of PR's. That was back when we actually got PR's. Well I suppose I wasn't the only one who had a dream of a lottery ticket in a diamond mine. All the normal thoughts cropped up from time to time that any human has of seeing that million shares go to 1.00 and being an instant millionaire. It's called "a dream". So since I didn't have too much tied up in it, even though I had twice as much as I preferred, I decided to just watch it, and do a little more DD as questions arose.
By last summer, I had learned quite a bit about the company and came to feel that I knew enough about the man Urban Casavant, that I would continue to bet a couple hundred dollars on him, his dream, and mine.
Allstocks was one of the boards I visited frequently to discuss the stock with people here, who were knowledgeable and reasonable in their assessments. I didn't post much back then, I preferred to listen to the more knowledgeable people here. When I did post, it was usually reposts of some article or posting that I found interesting and felt the board might want to discuss.
I had a lot of time to do that, search the various boards and sources because I am pretty much bound in my chair due to an inablilty to walk very far, and this is something I can do to be productive and help other people who don't have as much time on their hands as I do.
So this was a pretty good board until summer, then a guy came in with stories of exploits on Wall Street. Won't name any names. LOL And everything he had to say was negative, all the time. His first comments to me were something about not letting something I had said "bite me in the ass". So we had a "pleasant" first meeting. From that point on, we continued to challenge each other. And to tell you the truth, I became quickly more educated about CMKX and it's JV, due mainly in part to the efforts of that guy. Not because of what he knew, that has been sorely lacking since he admitted he didn't know what a MM was, but rather to prove him wrong. So if I have become his nemesis, it's a thing of his own making. And truthfully, I have to thank him for forcing me to become more aggressive in my pursuit of DD.
Well, also at that time, there were a number of Christians on this thread, and occasionally that fact came into conversation. It's kind of hard not to arise when people, like now, ask you what motivates you to do certain things, or why you feel the way you do. There was a poster here, named WWJDthrume, who obviously from her moniker, wore her faith on her sleeve. She was an experienced and long time investor who had a tremendous devotion to her ministry to the starving children of the world. And she made it clear that that was "her dream" in CMKX, to hopefully receive enough to forward that mission. That was sort of my dream too, as I run a ministry to the handicapped and disabled in my county, as much as I can in my condition.
But buckwheat, I don't know your faith or what part it plays in your life, but for many Christians, it is the primary motivating force for us. There are those who, for whatever reason, for whatever pain they have suffered in their lives, hate religion, hate Christianity, and hate the Christians they encounter. It's nothing new to us. Happens all the time. I won't point any fingers, they will let you know who they are later, but that spirit of animosity arose in this room, and it got so ugly that WWJD had to leave. The fighting was wringing every bit of good will she had right out of her. VNGNTN1 was another experienced investor and Christian who was bounced from the room according to what he told me. And he didn't know why. Didn't care either. He also found it counter productive to be here. That left me and dwman, as the remaining posters who had been "identified" as Christians. DW is a great guy and truly an exemplary Christian man. WWJD, Van, and DW all went to Christian Traders and became Admins and moderators there and have built that board to over 1400 members and continue to do an excellent job of managing a board that never sees this kind of conflict, but rather aids and assists their fellow members in all sorts of stocks and investments, yes, including CMKX.
Me on the other hand, I stuck around. You, know, Wallace is so much fun to be around, and he was making me a much better investor, even if he didn't know it. So why did I, a Christian, stick around for the abuse of my person, my faith and my investment? It's because my personal vision of my leader, is not that of a "wimp". I didn't think that a Christian had to be pushed around by bullies. So I stayed, defended my position in my choice of stocks, and defended my faith if attacked.
But finally I found that there was no more discussion of the stock here, unless it was just someone calling it a scam. Most of the posts deteriorated into sex, beastiality, innuendo and toilet humor. So I joined Christian Traders as well, so that I could have a place where I could research CMKX and all of my investments. A place where I wasn't attacked for my faith or my belief in my investments.
And it was a very productive move. I found myself with people assisting me in my DD, and me assisting them in theirs. I was suddenly in an environment of investors that encouraged instead of discouraging. A place where the light was preferred to the darkness. A place where the positive overshadows the negative greatly. And in that environment I was able to accomplish so much more in the way of learning this stock, what is has gone through and where it is going. It is composed of people from all backgrounds, including lawyers, stock brokers, tax accountants and yes active law enforcement people. And we all pull together and help each other, providing information and DD, and professional assistance and advice. So I did belabor that because you wanted to know why I fight so hard here.
It's very simple, I learned more, a lot more about CMKX, the JV's, investments in general, the "webs" that make up the CMKX "family", the SEC, the DTCC, the MM's and even "off shore hedge funds". I continued to accumulate CMKX whenever it could be had at .0001 and eventually built my shares up to 18.8 million. Not a huge investment spread out over a year, but enough to keep me happy.
So a couple of months ago, I wandered back in and found the SOS here. Only a lot worse. And I found something else. I found a lot of people hiding in the shadows who still believed in this stock, but were afraid to admit it openly. So I began bringing some of the things that I had found in my absence. And of course, I was attacked again. It wasn't unexpected. But I have spent my life, never afraid of conflict or controversy, so that meant very little. I believe in the company and it's future, I believe Urban is an o.k. guy. Made some mistakes, sure, what businessman at his level hasn't? Made some unfortunate business contacts? Yes that happens as well. But a crook? No. Can't make believe that yet. And I have run into a lot of high level criminals in my day, and this guy doesn't act like any of them.
So I bring the positive side of this stock to the board to offset and counter what a handful have done here. I bring it because some people here still want to know both sides. And I bring some of it here, just because the "other side" doesn't want me to.
I know this a long post, but buckwheatbob, you are the first poster that has asked publicly, so I thought I would take this opportunity to set the record straight. And though it took up a little space, I bet it can't compare to the space they are going to take up attacking me again.
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Before I head off to the races, where I surely will see a very HUMBLE Urban fella (much like all the other races so far), I must post a statement... Legal, for someone so BUSY as yourself, what on earth allows you the TIME to spew so incecently here? It would seem an extravagance most could not afford, those of whom work so hard like you do. What a guy!!! I applaud you for your stamina you crazed, investigating, DD-ing, real estate CEO tycoon, you! I'll let Urban know you are with him in spirit this weekend, though he'd, probably, rather you just merely quit with your ramblings. They draw SO much attention!
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Leagle your investment is what makes you spam these boards like a knucklehead? Please leave now. Everything you post crap here it takes away from other peoples post on real stocks that are making real money. Please stop bumping this useless stock up and collect some foodstamps to make up for the 200 u lost.
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well again i missed a few pages...damn comcast & its cable went out again tonight. thus Legel i was unable to reply...I hope you made a new friend on your great investigative journey. yet in all your posts you show no proof other then what has been in the back of my & a few other minds. claims are leaving cmkx & heading elsewhere. just because "stock scam ed" is part of AZTEC does not mean anything to cmkx. i work with a few companies that do the exact same thing i do but their jobs are not mine & thus my company does not profit from them. the same goes for cmkx, usca, gemm, aztec, sggm & any other group of letters you want to combine. there is nothing in your posts that show me or anyone else that cmkx is aztec's parent company. maybe i missed that post from weeks ago, if i did please repost any proof of this. UC has said those he intrusted screwed up, would that include Ed?. i have said in the past buying these other companies may just be a smart move as all of them do have short runs. see the idea is to profit not lose money. this thread is about CMKX & what it is doing for the pps of CMKX stock. the pps of said stock is not determined by USCA, GEMM, AZTC, SGGM, or any other company. its is determined by the income of CMKX verses the o/s of CMKX. said o/s is 703 billion shares!!!! debeers, shore gold & any 5 other mining companies combined can not increase that o/s off the .0001 floor & CMKX will never equal that. even if the float is 100 billion it will never see .0003, i dont care what they pull out of any claim you can not create the stock shortage needed to increase the pps. this is the problem with a number of companies that have a much larger chance of seeing a billion dollar valuation, at least a better shot then a company that is digging holes in the ground hoping to find something. & those companies are not even in the same area code when it comes to 703 billion shares in the o/s. as for naked short?? sorry bud, but the mm's are too smart to let a no account company like CMKX hurt them, not gonna happen. but if there is a n/s its your only hope of seeing .0003 at bid & if you do sell & sell fast, it wont last long.
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Legal, what is this shareholders group? I would like to see the list just to see how many people own what. In the past couple of years of reading these message boards - I've never seen so many investors taking shots at one person (you). You better take it easy on Wallace before his blood pressure causes him to have a heart attack. It seems to me that if these people could get a hold of you they would beat you senseless - just to keep you from posting. The hate toward you from them is mind boggling and I've never seen anything like it. I enjoy your posts. Keep posting.
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Why are some people allowed to buy and sell stocks at .00005 and others are not. Is this not a form of discrimination against the average investor? Can anything be done to level the playing field?
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: Something new for people to chew on.
Why are some people allowed to buy and sell stocks at .00005 and others are not. Is this not a form of discrimination against the average investor? Can anything be done to level the playing field?
Yep... It's all coming down. The Director of SEC Enforcement Division resigned this morning.
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quote:Originally posted by BB: Legal, what is this shareholders group? I would like to see the list just to see how many people own what. In the past couple of years of reading these message boards - I've never seen so many investors taking shots at one person (you). You better take it easy on Wallace before his blood pressure causes him to have a heart attack. It seems to me that if these people could get a hold of you they would beat you senseless - just to keep you from posting. The hate toward you from them is mind boggling and I've never seen anything like it. I enjoy your posts. Keep posting.
BB here is a link to the website of the group that started the shareholders group:
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legal, not time for a new screen name IMO. Time for an apology but I doubt he is man enough and probably doesn't have the word "sorry" in his vocab.
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: Something new for people to chew on.
Why are some people allowed to buy and sell stocks at .00005 and others are not. Is this not a form of discrimination against the average investor? Can anything be done to level the playing field?
I can only speak from my experience with Ameritrade ed. First they cut off shareholders access to buying CMKX. This was done IMO to allow their MM to be the only buyer of shares so that they could cover their NS. Prior to this retail buys were streaming through even with the suspension and charges. They didn't know what else to do. Then they realized that people couldn't sell shares to their MM while it was trading in the 5th digit, so they broke yet another standing rule and allowed sales in that range. Their desperation is more and more apparent.
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Here we go with the same old crap from legal. I am handicapped. I am a former cop/detective. I want to push religion along with stock. I have been unmercifully picked on. I am the good guy. I am a novice and anyone who worked on Wall St or managed two divisions of the NYSE does not know of what they are speaking or cannot do DD. He now (I think) claims to have some kind of financial background. I want everyone to feel sorry for me because of my handicap....but don't consider my other handicaps when it comes to being "wall street smart". I and others ran off because we couldn't stand the heat when we brought it on ourselves.
Legal, you are not the only person posting on this thread with a handicap, and, they don't use it as a crutch! You and others (including WWJthrume, VAN) are the ones who kept bringing up religion and your "do good" approaches to securities trading. Yes, Debi had been trading longer than you (your's about 6 mos.), but not that much longer....that is not an expert or considered exceptionally knowledgeable. It was all you do gooders that started the personal attacks. Then, when you couldn't take the heat in return, you all ran off like cowards that you are (and that includes the x-cop, noahltl, a very brave man).
So, just cut the bullsh:t and sympathy approaches. I don't consider you or any of your CT cohorts martyrs. Dwman is the only one of you I have come to respect, because he is honest with himself, with others and acts like a true Christian. The rest of you appear to be hypocrites, spouting off crap by not walking the line.
This is a stock forum. Not a religion forum. This is a stock forum. Not a cop forum. This is a stock forum. Not a martyr forum. This is a stock forum. Not a cry baby forum. So, STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!
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quote:Originally posted by BB: Legal, what is this shareholders group? I would like to see the list just to see how many people own what. In the past couple of years of reading these message boards - I've never seen so many investors taking shots at one person (you). You better take it easy on Wallace before his blood pressure causes him to have a heart attack. It seems to me that if these people could get a hold of you they would beat you senseless - just to keep you from posting. The hate toward you from them is mind boggling and I've never seen anything like it. I enjoy your posts. Keep posting.
BB, HERE IS THE LINK TO THE ACTUAL "TALLY BOARD" OF MEMBERS AND SHARES. 819 AS OF THIS MOMENT
Please stay out of the slop legal is trying to feed us and pull others into a fray with his constant attempts to start personal attacks as he and others did in the past.
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DW...i'm with ya on insults...its 1 thing to question someone idea of DD or their ability for common sence but to insult an affliction or to hate is not right. over a .0001 stock???. i do think some of the cult needs to have their karma balanced with a loss on cmkx. i do think the cult has taken a load of crap & done everything they can to make it smell like roses. just like legels last post...i've had many trades to the 5th digit on a number of stocks....04/05/2005 10:06:14 Sold 119500 QBID @ 0.00331 example in the last month copied to prove my point. i have ameritrade apex. they see evil at every turn instead of just seeing what is there
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Here we go with the same old crap from legal. I am handicapped. I am a former cop/detective. I want to push religion along with stock. I have been unmercifully picked on. I am the good guy. I am a novice and anyone who worked on Wall St or managed two divisions of the NYSE does not know of what they are speaking or cannot do DD. He now (I think) claims to have some kind of financial background. I want everyone to feel sorry for me because of my handicap....but don't consider my other handicaps when it comes to being "wall street smart". I and others ran off because we couldn't stand the heat when we brought it on ourselves.
Legal, you are not the only person posting on this thread with a handicap, and, they don't use it as a crutch! You and others (including WWJthrume, VAN) are the ones who kept bringing up religion and your "do good" approaches to securities trading. Yes, Debi had been trading longer than you (your's about 6 mos.), but not that much longer....that is not an expert or considered exceptionally knowledgeable. It was all you do gooders that started the personal attacks. Then, when you couldn't take the heat in return, you all ran off like cowards that you are (and that includes the x-cop, noahltl, a very brave man).
So, just cut the bullsh:t and sympathy approaches. I don't consider you or any of your CT cohorts martyrs. Dwman is the only one of you I have come to respect, because he is honest with himself, with others and acts like a true Christian. The rest of you appear to be hypocrites, spouting off crap by not walking the line.
This is a stock forum. Not a religion forum. This is a stock forum. Not a cop forum. This is a stock forum. Not a martyr forum. This is a stock forum. Not a cry baby forum. So, STOP YOUR WHINING!!!!
NOT VERY BECOMING WALLACE, BUT PREDICTABLE.
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And, like I said before, that shareholders' group or "cmkxownersgroup" probably includes most of the people of the Christian Traders bunch and is, therefore, probably full of a bunch of pumpers....paid or just plain stupid.
Did they all pay $25 to join?
Also, note the "In God We Trust" at the bottom. Trust him to say "NO" as far as CMKX is concerned.
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Haven't even joined the group yet glass, but probably will today. If the numbers of shares represented keeps growing, this group could prove the NS by itself.
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Thank you, legal, for reposting my post and bringing it up in bold lettering. Your response was expected and anticipated as well. Brilliant as usual!!
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