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Gender: Posts: 2245 ATTENTION ALL MEDIA, RE: STOCKGATE « Thread started on: Today at 10:11am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To whom it may concern,
All of the information contained herein is provided by review of publicly available information.
Please consider doing some research and investigation into a little known stock market scandal that is presently gaining momentum and popularity. The issue at hand is known as "Stockgate". In summary, the operators and regulators of the stock market have purportedly been participating in and endorsing (by failure to regulate) the counterfeiting of public company stock.
This practice, known as "naked short selling", effectively dilutes the share structure of company stock and causes the price to decline. This often leads to the company going bankrupt or ceasing to exist. When this occurs, the entities that sold the counterfeit stock, keep the money raised from their initial illegal sales of the stock. The entire process occurs as a result of loopholes in regulation and enforcement that have been allowed to proliferate since the inception of electronic trading. In short, there are few stock market transactions that involve the actual transfer of paper stock certificates today. Most transactions are processed using a series of electronic book entries. This enables fraud like "naked short selling" to migrate unchecked in a market where regulations either do not exist or are not enforced by the agencies responsible for such.
Key points of concern in this matter are:
1. The stock market is operated by the very same financial institutions that receive fees for each of these illegal transactions.
2. The SEC receives a fee for many of these illegal transactions.
3. Individual investors purchasing stock in a company that has been subjected to this illegal practice often lose their investment.
4. It is reported that Dateline NBC has been preparing an expose on this matter since early 2004. The reason Dateline has not aired the piece is a topic of much concern to the individual investor community.
5. On January 3, 2005, the SEC implemented Regulation SHO, after at least a half dozen years of outcry from the investing public. Effective January 3, 2005, companies that have been illegally manipulated, appear on what is known as a "Threshold list" that is updated daily. This list represents companies that have had counterfeit electronic book entry shares sold to investors that were never reconciled in the settlement system.
6. Law firms Christian, Smith, Wukoson and Jewell, and OQuinn, Laminack and Pirtle, whose notches already include environmental targets, the breast implant industry and the tobacco industry are working publicly to expose "Stockgate".
All of the above suppositions can be researched further by reviewing the following links:
Year 1999 Comments received from the public on proposed SEC rules to address illegal naked short selling. Please note that individual investor comments support the proposed regulation while the market operator comments generally seek to avoid implementation of new SEC protections to individual investors (In my opinion). http://www.sec.gov/rules/concept/s72499.shtml
Year 2003 Comments received from the public on proposed SEC rules to address illegal naked short selling. Please note that individual investor comments support the proposed regulation while the market operator comments generally seek to avoid implementation of new SEC protections to individual investors (In my opinion). http://www.sec.gov/rules/proposed/s72303.shtml
As you can see from two links above, this manipulation of stock to the detriment of millions of individual investors has been allowed to proliferate by the inaction of market regulators for a minimum of six years.
This site links to the NASDAQ "Threshold list", which is a list of company securities that have been sold and subsequently failed to clear in the settlement system. Failure to clear means that the stock was sold without possessing the requisite access to the underlying shares of the electronic book entry. http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx
Please note that many stocks that have been the victims of naked short selling are not listed on the threshold lists. This is because there is a requirement that a company must be current in their SEC filings to "qualify" for the protections from counterfeit stock sales that Regulation SHO provides. It is suspected that the majority of companies that are abused will fall into the category of stocks that are traded in Over the Counter and Pink Sheet quotation services. Many of these stocks are penny stocks.
As you can see from reviewing the link to the NASDAQ list above, illegal naked short selling is not limited to penny stocks. There are also some well known companies on the list. It is important to note however that the small over the counter and Pink Sheet companies have never and do not currently benefit from many of the protections afforded to companies that are listed on the more visible exchanges such as the NYSE and NASDAQ SEC.
Keywords used to research this matter are as follows:
Stockgate Regulation SHO Naked Short Selling
Please consider looking into this matter for the sake of the millions of individual investors that have lost substantial investment capital over the last half dozen years or more.
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Read this United Carina (one of our JV's) PR. Note that over "seventy" diamondiferous pipes have bee identified" in the Sask. area. Did they all "miss" our nearly 2 million acres of mineral rights?
"Over seventy in-situ diamondiferous kimberlite pipes have been identified in this part of central Saskatchewan. Furthermore, numerous aeromagnetic anomalies which could be attributed to kimberlites have yet to be fully evaluated. The Companies feel that exploration in the Saskatchewan diamond belt is still at a relatively early stage and that there is an excellent potential of identifying economically viable diamond deposits in this part of Central Saskatchewan, and will continue to aggressively pursue the same."
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i'm guessing most of the pipes on cmkx claims are diamondferious. but thats not what matters. what matters is are there enough diamonds in a pipe to make it worth mining. as of right now none including shore golds are. shore gold is close to saying its worth it. say that fly by was right & there are 100+ pipes & 75+ are diamondferious. its been 5 yrs at shore gold on 1 pipe & still no go ahead to mine. cmkx may get a small run on the pps at some point. but to do anything like ppl believe they first have to prove that the o/s is less then 1 billion & the a/s isn't much more then the o/s & second they need to get to bulk mining on 1 pipe. its not impossible just improbable
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2 dividends, usca & gemm split out to 779 billion o/s for cmkx. both public companies thus both must report the number of shares involved. the second dividend that split to 1.5 trillion came from a private company thus meaning the number of shares does not need to be reported only what cmkx says the split is. if you allow reality to set in even momentarily you see that if the number of shares involved was 20 billion not the 40 billion in the pr everything is equal. if UC changed the number of shares involved it does not need to be public info. if as the pr said UC wanted every shareholder to get the dividend & it was recorded that 1.5 trillion shares were sold & held by ppl then all the splits would be at 1.5 trillion. now if your a smart lawyer & part of your job is to prove a naked short this would have been done. you would not be filing false info as thats the number of shares sold. you would have solid proof of a naked short & by now i would not be typing this as it would be public info & cleared up
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UPSIDE Sorry so long on your question, Iv'e been investigating several other intresting boards for information. SeEms only 4 or 5 people here posting, most with little info. I was really trying to figure out my 5m CIM/CIMM something and what that might be worth My friend said had a few bits for Saskatoon the rest for someplace ??" greenplace or greenfield,greenway. Lefty
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Posts: 286 Sunday reply from Andy regarding Close and April « Thread started on: Jan 23rd, 2005, 7:40pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In order to clear up the Close with a Capital "C" and the mention of April , well I emailed Andy, thinking I'd get a reply Monday , but to my surprise he replied today. I had asked to clear up the Close verses April and here is what I wrote , followed by what he replied .
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Hi Andy,
I've been following the progress of CMKX though the ********s32 forum since its inception. Lately you've probably had an overload of queries regarding the "Close" statement. My concern was regarding the Close with a Capital "C" statement was your further comment that if we don't file by the end of January then the next date is the end of April. I have trouble with regarding April as close with a Capital "C" . Is the Close with a Capital "C" your assesment or is this Urbans assesment ? I probably reacted more negatively than most because I am officially retired since Dec 15,2004 and It was NOT CMKX that prompted me to retire but rather an oustanding company offer which I couldn't refuse. (Bell Canada 30 Years service) . The problem is I have several projects to undertake , but am awaiting the outcome of CMKX . I don't mind WHEN we file .If its in 3 months then so be it. I was happy with the Close. Then confused with the April comment. Are YOU more confident with next week but commented about April as a safeguard? Or are you clueless (don't take that the wrong way ) as to when we file . Is there another factor such as the rumored SEC meeting which might sway the filing date ?
On ********s32 I go by the name of Peterg2000. I realise that you only have the information given to you by management and all WE have the information from you. So what you say as well as its accuracy is very important to us .
Thanks Pete
============================================ Hi Peter...
Close comes straight from UC and he has continued to tell me this since the beginning of Jan. However, we must all realize that unless things are 100% ready to go using the 3rd quarter financials and everything else that must also go into the filing...Roger Glenn cannot submit it to the SEC. 120 days from the end of the quarter is the cutoff, ie end of Jan., or the 3rd quarter financials become purely historical. Then UC and team would have to use 4th quarter, which then moves the time flag to a new deadline of April 30th. I am only using the timelines to help people understand the 120 day rule difference between current vs historical.
Now with Sarbanes Oxley all those involved in the various components to bring about a finished filing package are legally responsible for their input. Also, UC must have his Board of Directors in place and also his Governance Board which must be weighted with non-director people. Additionally we don't know what we are getting for a filing. Will it be just CMKX or will it be a CMKX/CIM, or a smorgasbord including more of the associated companies? I certainly don't know but there is enough rumor and spec. between shareholders to keep everyone thinking 24 hrs. a day, and some do just that!!
What I do know is I have complete faith in Mr. Casavant, Roger Glenn, and the rest of the executive team responsible for the filing's completion and the ongoing management. Patience is all we have in supporting fellow shareholders to stay the course and not rely on certain dates as absolute until the TEAM makes it happen. The "quiet" period is something every company must place itself in during this process and therefore UC is precluded from saying anything from the "operational" side of the company. The 75 bill. PR in Dec. was to do with "structure" and was OK for him to reveal to shareholders.
What I promise not to do is mislead people by naming firm dates or commenting directly on rumors or spec born by shareholders. Urban is fully aware of the shareholder stress, but he must run the company first and please the shareholders second. That way I truly believe EVERYONE will win!
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The "quiet" period is something every company must place itself in during this process and therefore UC is precluded from saying anything from the "operational" side of the company.
Would that be the "quite" period where Urban, and Roger "Keep Us In The Dark And Feed Us S*** Like Mushrooms" ? Some of the pumper posts on this board makes it very apparent that Urban has lots of folks helping him drag that manure. This company will be in the "quite" period for the rest of time and eternity. Maybe I should not have said that I forgot we are in the "quite period" !!!!
You know that I use to believe in this stock, and actually tried to get people to buy this crap. I truly pray that they will forgive me.
Urban must need gas for that car of his, so pumping to get gas money. Lets see $2.00 a gal that would be 20,000 shares.
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Stockgate: NASDAQ SC Threshold Securities Listed But Hundreds 'Missing In Action'
Jan 24, 2005 (financialwire.net via COMTEX) -- January 24,2005 (FinancialWire) Accessity Corp. (ACTY), Aerogen Inc. (AEGN), Ameritrans Capital Corp. (NASDAQ: AMCT) and Analytical Surveys Inc. (ANLT) are among 40 NASDAQ SmallCap companies identified on a recent NASDAQ "Threshold Security List" mandated by U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission Regulation SHO.
The list, at http://www.nasdaqtrader.com/aspx/regsho.aspx , purportedly lists all those companies, for which over a period of five consecutive settlement days, there are aggregate "fails to deliver" at a registered clearing agency of 10,000 shares or more, and the levels of fails is equal to at least 1/2 of 1% of the issuer's total shares outstanding.
The list, which is the latest in the ever-widening Stockgate scandal, has created some controversy, with hundreds of stock symbols disappearing since the intial posting in mid-January, 2005, and with many detractors claiming the list is barely the tip of the iceberg, missing hundreds of companies that have been subjected to alleged naked short selling, as well as not consistent with a paper, "Strategic Delivery Failures in U.S. Equity Markets" published under the aegis of the SEC.
The referenced working paper by University of New Mexico Professor Leslie Boni was initiated while the author was visiting financial economist at the SEC.
She termed the "failures to deliver," which litigants have called "counterfeiting," as being "pervasive."
The professor said that a whopping 42% of listed stocks at the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ and AMEX, and 47% of unlisted stocks in the OTCBB and Pink Sheets had persistent fails of 5 days or more with 4% being above the SEC's threshold limits for failures.
The economist pointed to a study conducted by Evans, Geczy, Musto, and Reed in 2003 that provided evidence that while the SRO's have buy-in requirements, such buy-ins almost never occur. She noted that an audit of one market maker showed that all or a portion of shares in 69,063 transactions during 1998-1999 were "fails to deliver."
"The market maker was bought-in on only 86 of these positions," she stated.
Yet NASDAQ (NDAQ) is now listing only 123 companies on the NASDAQ, OTCBB and Pink Sheets, which together comprise the overwhelming bulk of public companies traded in the U.S.
The original list had identified 520 securities, including the stocks of 57 recent PIPE issuers, according to The PIPES Report, in an article headlined "SHO What?." That list had 379 traded on the NASDAQ, Bulletin Board and Pink Sheet markets, 68 on the AMEX and 73 traded on the NYSE.
The report quoted Merrill Lynch (MER) global equity trading specialist Mary Ann Bartels of suggesting "increased volatility" and "extended rallies" in small and mid cap stocks could result, Rhodes Analytics highlighted 33 NYSE and 63 NASDAQ "dangerous shorts" which analyst Bill Rhodes believed are "vulnerable to squeezes which could last through the middle of February, when the initial phase of Reg SHO-mandated buy-ins of threshold stocks are expected to peak?"
But a funny thing happened. The 379 NASDAQ threshold stocks included only 24 bulletin board stocks, along with 56 NASDAQ-traded stocks and a whopping 254 Pink Sheet quoted stocks, which the Dow Jones (DJ) Newswires was quoted as saying happened to be "every fully-reporting company traded on the Pink Sheets."
Professor Boni's report showed that "during three random market days inlate 2003 and early 2004 that almost 60% of the stocks on the Bulletin Board and Pink Sheets had persistent settlement failures," according to The PIPES Report. "Among the 1,790 OTCBB and Pink Sheet stocks with failures, the average level of delivery failures equaled 1.56% of outstanding shares ' almost three times the level that would trigger threshold status under Regulation SHO."
In a December 13 conference call, Richard Bernstein, Bear Stearns' (NYSE BSC) senior managing director of operations, told the firm's brokers that almost 800 OTCBB and Pink Sheet securities would exceed threshold levels.
Although every single reporting Pink Sheet stock was listed, the list included less than 1% of the 3,200 Bulletin Board companies. And several de-registered companies with no trading activity were also inexplicably included.
I don't really think the list is complete," Jeffrey Meyerson, vice president at Crown Financial was quoted as saying. "I don't think they got everything done in time for the deadline."
For an explanation, an SEC spokesperson told The PIPES Report to check with NASDAQ, and NASDAQ pushed off queries to the NASD, who just didn't respond."
An even bigger surprise than the lack of suspect companies on the list, however, was the sudden disappearance of 270 stocks in one day, including all but one on the Pink Sheets and all but nine now on the OTCBB, which, according to The PIPES Report, suggests "that a settlement crisis several years in the making, affecting the most under-regulated and least compliant sector of the public equity markets, had been resolved in less than a week without executing a single mandatory buy-in."
General Electric's (GE) NBC Dateline, which is purportedly preparing a major expose of the Depository Trust and Clearing Corp., and the alleged almost $1 billion in "borrowed" ' some say counterfeited" ' certificates that have reportedly been lent out above the legal issued shares by hundreds of companies, and the Christian, Smith, Wukoson and Jewell, and OQuinn, Laminack and Pirtle legal challenges being filed for dozens of such companies, is also reportedly looking into the threshold securities that can only be described as "missing in action."
In an appearance now archived on StreetSignals (http://www.streetsignals.com), Christian/O'Quinn legal expert C. Austin (Bud) Burrell, said that the firms have filed some 15 actions, including key formative lawsuits for Sedona Corp. (SDNA), NanoPierce Technologies (NPCT), Datascension Inc. (DSEN), Eagle Tech Communications (EATC) and Hyperdynamics (HYPD).
Burrell said the lawsuits allege a vast conspiracy to manipulate all stocks, and "provide substantive proof of manipulation." He said that the suits allege 7,500 companies have been bankrupted since November, 2000, by illegal naked shortselling and conspiratorial manipulations, resulting in a loss of $17 trillion in market cap, "greater than all the losses in the 1929 market crash."
He said that shares are electronically counterfeited by the stock borrow program which the Depository Trust and Clearing Corp., owned by the New York Stock Exchange and the NASD, acquired in its purchase of National Stock Clearance, and then misused its "stock borrow program" to create, through its "nominal ownership provisions," a no-limit "and illegal" hypothecation system that results in revenues of almost $1 billion annually.
He said naked short sales were outlawed by Sections 5 and 6 of the 33 Securities Act, due to their contribution to the '29 Wall Street Crash, which was followed by ten years of depression.
Burrell told the StreetSignals audience that the DTC "nominally owns $22 trillion in stocks and bonds." He said it even lends out certificates acquired via ERISA and retirement accounts that are "not eligible" for such lending, and is a violation of Federal Reserve margin rules.
He said the failures of oversight by the SEC and the Congress in this matter are massive, and continue to contribute to overseas money laundering, organized crime, and financing of terrorism.
The threshold list as present constituted is both "unexplained and unexplainable," added Burrell. He alleged that "the SEC instructed the NASD to remove Pink Sheet stocks from the list," and criticized them for their lack of transparency or explanation.
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It seems that following the word "Deal", the next most reviled word in the CMKX shareholder vocabulary is "R/S", or reverse-split. I think it's getting a bad rap, personally.
Some of us have fallen in love with the idea of getting in with a company at .0001 PPS, and watching that level stock going to dollar levels, and imagining the millions or billions that would come with our huge accumulation of shares. Like most initial love, it's a story where we like to believe only the best, and we overlook the other things (that ultimately become very significant factors).
It's important to keep in mind that if you turn any $1,000 investment into, say, $100K, you've hit it big. Consider some alternatives:
- $1,000 invested in CISCO on Jan 2 last year would have cost you $24.25 PPS, for roughly 41.25 shares. As of Jan 3, 2005 the PPS was $19.32, so your $1,000 would have turned into $796.95.
- $1,000 invested in Microsoft on Jan 2 last year would have cost you $27.45 PPS, for roughly 36.4 shares. As of Jan 3, 2005 the PPS was $26.74, so your $1,000 would have turned into $952.59.
- $1,000 invested in passbook savings earning you a 0.93 percent over the last year would have turned into $1,009.30 as of January 3, 2005.
- $1,000 invested in Apple Computers on Jan 2 last year would have cost you $21.28 PPS, for roughly 47 shares. As of Jan 3, 2005 the PPS was $63.29, so your $1,000 would have turned into $2,974.15.
- $1,000 invested in CMKX on Jan 2 last year would have cost you $.0001 PPS, for roughly 10,000,000 shares. As of Jan 3, 2005 the PPS was $.0002, so your $1,000 would have turned into $2,000.00.
- Assuming a 1-for-100 RS: for your same $1,000 investment in CMKX on Jan 2 last year, we established you'd have $2,000 on January 3, 2005. If the R/S took effect as of February 1, 2005, you would have 100,000 shares at $.02 PPS, or still $2,000. If coupled with news of reporting and diamonds found in unusually high concentrations, we could see the PPS rise to say (hypothetically) $.10. Your initial $1,000 investment in that scenario could gross you $10,000 (this is the equivalant of the PPS rising to .001 in the pre-RS scenario, BTW).
Try matching that elsewhere in the stock market.
Many here have fallen in love with the idea of the stock going to $1 (or higher) while you possess 1M (or more) stocks in CMKX. They site evidence of massive rises in other companies that went from $.0001 to $.68 overnight, but fail to mention the outstanding share count is a mere 50,000 to 250,000, and that the daily volume is around 2,000 to 5,000 shares traded per day on these occurances.
Imagine those 50,000 shareholders with dollar signs dancing in their heads finally seeing the PPS rising to $.005...if you hold 10M shares, that just turned your $1K investment into $50K! A lot could be done with money like that, like pay off bills or send kids to college...how many of the 50,000 investors around you will leave that kind of money on the table to let it ride? The simple fact is that even with the 100-for-1 R/S, the same principles apply: Your same $1K investment would still turn into $50K, the only difference is the PPS is at $.50 instead.
There is an added angle to this: Many people refuse to invest in sub-penny (or some even sub-dollar) investments. They would stay away from CMKX at $.005, but they would start applying significant buying pressure at $.50, or higher. This could change the dynamics of this situation significantly: If buying pressure peaks at $.005, that's all we'll get for a bit probably. But with the R/S, you're placing the company in a larger investment pool, and demand may well increase as well...especially with 1/100th of the existing O/S count we have today (whatever it is). This could induce even more buying pressure, and take our sample investment to $75K (or even $100K), instead of petering out at $50K as we might at the higher O/S.
I understand the ideas presented to advocate for no R/S, but I believe most of them are emotionally based rather than logically based. Before we poo-poo the idea, we should really consider the positive possibilities this event could have for us.
It's fun to fantasize about having 10M shares turn into $10M, but I think most of us would be very satisfied turning $1K into $100K in less than two years, considering your alternatives.
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Legal: Whatever you are smoking you really need to stay away from it, or have your Primary Care Physician adjust your medication !!!!!
CMKX: CANNOT be compared to the success of Cisco, Microsoft, Apple. If Urban is very lucky he will see his share certificates used as a very low grade bottom wipe in the bathrooms of those companies.
You need to take a few steps backwards, if Urban or Roger were to stop abruptly, we will have to pry your nose from their ***.
Now do us a favor, take your medication like a good boy
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wow doc...not pulling any punchs this monday morning i see...lol are you filling the scripts for him???...lol to compare cmkx to toilet paper is a diservice to good toilet paper everywhere...lol
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Don't worry L.Eagle,I think Doc is just mad about yesterday and taking it out on CMKX/you.LOL Doc,get over it. The AFC trophy belongs to Tom Brady now. j/k
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Don't worry L.Eagle,I think Doc is just mad about yesterday and taking it out on CMKX/you.LOL Doc,get over it. The AFC trophy belongs to Tom Brady now. j/k
I am not mad at all, just telling the truth about a useless stock and a lot of pumping. I feel that the Steelers did well to get that far.
The actually went farther that this piece of **** is ever going to go.
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well i dont own this stock but have been thinking about it i was in las vegas last week on business and cmkx has alot ofbill boards and even advertisement on sum drag cars and a bill board @ the lasvegas speed way if i remember right .............. but i dont know much else
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Casavant brand toilet tissue. Feel like you've just passed a diamond as big as the Ritz? Then reach for the soothing comfort that only the Casavant brand can provide. For those less than pleasant days, always remember to "wipe your pipe with Urban".
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: Casavant brand toilet tissue. Feel like you've just passed a diamond as big as the Ritz? Then reach for the soothing comfort that only the Casavant brand can provide. For those less than pleasant days, always remember to "wipe your pipe with Urban".
That is sweet
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: HA HA HA!LMAO All I can say... I hope he has the chit.
I am not sure if he has the "chit" but we know for sure that he is full of something and it does not look like diamonds, it don't smell like diamonds. Some dark dull brown stuff. Nope its not diamonds, it must be the "chit"
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