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i hate to bring up a negitive idea but the pr got me thinking...why syndicate if other carriers are about to come on board?? it would help get the programming out to viewers & thus help bring in new carriers & comcast is probably the hardest to get. so in that way it is good. but if we are about to sign 1 or 2 new carriers wouldn't that help in the same way?? if RCN & new carriers have good sub numbers other cable systems in big market area's will want to add Q. again sorry about the negitive thought, just wondering if that crossed anyone else's mind.
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Getting carriers and getting subscribers are 2 very different things. Carriers are great but subscribers are the ones who bring in the money to QBID. The syndication is another way of giving free samples. It's like giving out sample tortilla chips at the supermarket to get people to buy them. The chip company can also send free bags of chips to people's houses as another way to get people to try out their product and maybe convince them to buy it. So, QBID is putting their sample on a channel that already has subscribers so that those viewers might be lured in.
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i hate to bring up a negitive idea but the pr got me thinking...why syndicate if other carriers are about to come on board?? it would help get the programming out to viewers & thus help bring in new carriers & comcast is probably the hardest to get. so in that way it is good. but if we are about to sign 1 or 2 new carriers wouldn't that help in the same way?? if RCN & new carriers have good sub numbers other cable systems in big market area's will want to add Q. again sorry about the negitive thought, just wondering if that crossed anyone else's mind.
quote:Originally posted by Trader O: Getting carriers and getting subscribers are 2 very different things. Carriers are great but subscribers are the ones who bring in the money to QBID. The syndication is another way of giving free samples. It's like giving out sample tortilla chips at the supermarket to get people to buy them. The chip company can also send free bags of chips to people's houses as another way to get people to try out their product and maybe convince them to buy it. So, QBID is putting their sample on a channel that already has subscribers so that those viewers might be lured in.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bill1352: [b]i hate to bring up a negitive idea but the pr got me thinking...why syndicate if other carriers are about to come on board?? it would help get the programming out to viewers & thus help bring in new carriers & comcast is probably the hardest to get. so in that way it is good. but if we are about to sign 1 or 2 new carriers wouldn't that help in the same way?? if RCN & new carriers have good sub numbers other cable systems in big market area's will want to add Q. again sorry about the negitive thought, just wondering if that crossed anyone else's mind.
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Trader, I like the way Frank and team are thinking out of the box. It seems to me they know how this type of business works. We are growing, steadily imo. Looks like we have a good platform with the current pps. Hope all are having a Happy Holiday,
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Trader O Member posted December 21, 2004 18:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Getting carriers and getting subscribers are 2 very different things. Carriers are great but subscribers are the ones who bring in the money to QBID. The syndication is another way of giving free samples. It's like giving out sample tortilla chips at the supermarket to get people to buy them. The chip company can also send free bags of chips to people's houses as another way to get people to try out their product and maybe convince them to buy it. So, QBID is putting their sample on a channel that already has subscribers so that those viewers might be lured in.
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i agree and said so it is a good way to get programming out there but to get subscribers you need carriers & maybe that will help get carriers but the number 1 thing carriers will look at is subscribers as you stated & with RCN & as we all have an idea, including myself, that at least 1 new carrier is coming very soon, their subscriber numbers will do more for getting us other carriers then free samples. of course adding the 2 might speed up the process. i only stated the thought because of the timing. it seem's out of place. cable companies only goal is adding more money to the bottom line. sub numbers from RCN & a new carrier will do a lot more for getting other carriers then unpublicized free samples. being its on comcast of course is the best news in that pr.. that is the mother load for us.
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I don't understand what everyone is questioning.
syndicate (n): An association of people or firms formed to engage in an enterprise or promote a common interest.
syndicates (v): To sell (a television series, for example) directly to independent stations.
So they are jumping in, regardless of whether the "big" carriers are ready to announce contracts, and selling directly to local stations. When people like it, the "big carrier" is then forced to consider carrying it.
Where does it say it's being given away free? Free to us tv viewers perhaps, but it doesnt mean that Q isnt getting money from the station that's purchasing the syndication.
As the PR stated: "Syndication will also create a new profit center for Q Television," stated Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network.
IMO profit is profit. wonder if Q is targeting their syndication to those carriers which they have NOT gotten signed agreements? kind of a trial to prove that people will watch?
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Good point. They are killing 2 birds with one stone. Syndication brings in new revenue and lets people sample the programming on other channels that people are already watching.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: I don't understand what everyone is questioning.
syndicate (n): An association of people or firms formed to engage in an enterprise or promote a common interest.
syndicates (v): To sell (a television series, for example) directly to independent stations.
So they are jumping in, regardless of whether the "big" carriers are ready to announce contracts, and selling directly to local stations. When people like it, the "big carrier" is then forced to consider carrying it.
Where does it say it's being given away free? Free to us tv viewers perhaps, but it doesnt mean that Q isnt getting money from the station that's purchasing the syndication.
As the PR stated: "Syndication will also create a new profit center for Q Television," stated Frank Olsen, President and CEO of Q Television Network.
IMO profit is profit. wonder if Q is targeting their syndication to those carriers which they have NOT gotten signed agreements? kind of a trial to prove that people will watch?
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I was talking about this. This is Comcast we are talking about. HereTV hasn't even been able to get into there doors. They have rejected G/L in the past yet we gaot a show on there network. I think it huge myself. And just because we syndicated a show to Comcast dosen't mean we are not going to get another carrier. They said 25% in January. I never remember them saying anything about December. The boards started alot of rumors we wanted to believe and they didn't come true. Don't blame Q for false rumor. We just should be leary of these so called profits from now on.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i hate to bring up a negitive idea but the pr got me thinking...why syndicate if other carriers are about to come on board?? it would help get the programming out to viewers & thus help bring in new carriers & comcast is probably the hardest to get. so in that way it is good. but if we are about to sign 1 or 2 new carriers wouldn't that help in the same way?? if RCN & new carriers have good sub numbers other cable systems in big market area's will want to add Q. again sorry about the negitive thought, just wondering if that crossed anyone else's mind.
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on the contrary ric, i think it means we will be getting notification of carriers. otherwise theyd be pushing syndication a lot harder. sounds like they have it pinpointed to one significant, hard-to-convince carrier that they need to prove viewership to.
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ALso remmember, there are 2 TV screens in the backgroung running QTN. QTN has the opportunity to be shown on Comcast Seattle. 400,000 strong. Yes it is only a couple of hours but look at the demograghics. I am very pleased. McFly
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Huh, I thought thats what I said. That Comcast has rejected this in the past and this is an good thing that lets Comcast see that we can sell on there Network. Comcast has refused others in this area in the past and we have our foot in the door this way.
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: on the contrary ric, i think it means we will be getting notification of carriers. otherwise theyd be pushing syndication a lot harder. sounds like they have it pinpointed to one significant, hard-to-convince carrier that they need to prove viewership to.
quote:Originally posted by Ric: And just because we syndicated a show to Comcast dosen't mean we are not going to get another carrier.
Not to beat a dead horse, but why do so many keep claiming that Qbid "syndicated" a show to Comcast? Did I miss something? Having a show on the legally mandated Cable Access channel in a market (Seattle) is NOT syndicating a show, nor was any money exchanged.
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This is the third time you have came in here to belittle others with corrections. And this is the first time your partly right. Your are still a azzhole. If all you can do is correct others and not provide any dd then why come in here. WE ARE NOT GOING ON PUBLIC ACCESS. THE STATION HAS NOT BEEN ANNOUNCED. THE CHANNEL 43 WAS A MISSTAKE PERIOD. Ric
quote:Originally posted by TheBundo: Not to beat a dead horse, but why do so many keep claiming that Qbid "syndicated" a show to Comcast? Did I miss something? Having a show on the legally mandated Cable Access channel in a market (Seattle) is NOT syndicating a show, nor was any money exchanged.
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ric, i was just expanding on your statement: "And just because we syndicated a show to Comcast dosen't mean we are not going to get another carrier. "
...to point out that on the contrary of not getting another carrier, i think it's likely they have the other carriers, save for the ones to which they are syndicating to smaller stations. ~BB
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First you come in here to claim we are not a network when we are and then you are saying that Frank is lieing again and we are not syndicating because it on PBS which we are not. You are right that we did not syndicate to Comcast but we did to another channel. It was clearly stated that the show was syndicated on a channel to be announced. Now if you feel corrections need to be in order then you need to contact Q Televion Network and file your complaints.
Ric
quote:Originally posted by TheBundo: What I posted this time then WAS DD, Ric. And I'm not trying to get you or anyone upset, and I'm watching this stock too.
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Sorry if I didn't say it exactly right. I meant it just like your saying it right now
Ric
quote:Originally posted by betting babe: ric, i was just expanding on your statement: "And just because we syndicated a show to Comcast dosen't mean we are not going to get another carrier. "
...to point out that on the contrary of not getting another carrier, i think it's likely they have the other carriers, save for the ones to which they are syndicating to smaller stations. ~BB
quote:Originally posted by TheBundo: Not to beat a dead horse, but why do so many keep claiming that Qbid "syndicated" a show to Comcast? Did I miss something? Having a show on the legally mandated Cable Access channel in a market (Seattle) is NOT syndicating a show, nor was any money exchanged.
I'm afraid you've bludgeoned the poor horse into a little greasy spot. Now off with you and beat a dead bull at the other board.
the PR stated: "On Q Live" will be aired in the Seattle area in January on a digital cable station carried on Comcast Cable which currently has over 400,000 subscribers.
Have they actually announced what station it is? ~BB
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Ric, Betting and all of US. Think we are on or around the same page. Hope all are starting to wind down. Think we deserve coodos for truth seeking. Lot's of hard work on alot of fronts. CHEERS!!!
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quote:Originally posted by betting babe: oh and btw...
apparently THEBUNDO also cant spell the name of his profession...
contractor, no E, babe. how long u been in ur current job?
~BB
Thanks for the spell check. One of the disadvantages of posting from bed late at night, while sucking the suds down. Been in the biz for about 15 years.
As to all the complaining about my posts on Qbid, I'm trying to be sincere, but maybe it doesn't come accross that way. Sorry about the whole network vs. channel thing, it's semantics, but that aside, they are still a network it name only until they start getting carried on many systems by paying customers. And yes, that is their goal. I'm just concerned about buying this one, because it seems it is taking off too slow, but that is probably due to their content as much as anything.
Perhaps their niche will develop more into being a producer of shows for syndication to local outlets, which could still be very profitable. Look at shows like ET and Jeopardy. Or maybe that procedure, of syndicating show, will develop into their becoming a network in the bigger sense.
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sorry BUNDO but i tried to get a fill at .0001 all day and it did not happen!! so i looked at transactions all day long and there have not been any buys that went through at .0001 so your in never never land!
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