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Can someone give me the bid/ask..
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http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=MSITF

The ask is up to .0061 while I am writing this:
not sure why there was no change is the PPS today
this baby has some huge potential, IMO HUGE!!

Come on MSITF, I want to by my new baby girl a new house! lol

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Before putting all your money in it blindly, read the following from August 2004...what i recieved for annual meeting.


4. Options
Subsequent to the year end, the following options were granted to executive officers and
Employees of the Corporation;
NAME OFFICE NUMBER OF OPTIONS NUMBER OF OPTIONS
Exercise Price ($0.0005) Exercise Price ($0.0002)
Expiry January 24, 2005 Expiry December 31, 2006
Robert Talbot President 10,000,000 25,000,000
Brent Platten Director 6,000,000 7,000,000
Page Edgar Officer 8,000,000 7,000,000
Leslie Kasza Physician 2,000,000 2,000,000
Henry Andrews Director 6,000,000 7,000,000
Manfred Wiedemeyer Secretary 8,000,000 8,000,000
William Whitehead, Jr. Consultant 10,000,000 15,000,000
Tanya Chervatin Consultant 1,000,000 2,000,000
Keith Lake Legal Counsel 1,000,000 2,000,000
Mark Brantley Legal Counsel 1,000,000 2,000,000
Mewa Singh Consultant 6,000,000 15,000,000
James Cheung Consultant 6,000,000 15,000,000
Danica Doucette-Preville Employee 3,000,000
Odette Brown Employee 2,500,000
Erin Ablethorpe Employee 2,500,000
Vanessa Miller Employee 2,000,000
Jenna Stone Employee 2,000,000
Rowena Lefleche Employee 2,500,000
Jeffery Hsu Consultant 15,000,000
The granting of options to the above noted executives, directors and employees in the
denominations indicated is in accordance with the Stock Option Plan approved by the
shareholders on December 30, 1994. Options were issued to the executive, directors and
employees at 0.0005 per share for a two (2) year period ending January 24, 2005. Additional
options have been issued to executives, directors and employees in accordance with the Stock
Option Plan. The exercise price of the options is at $0.0002 per share ending December 31,
2006. The Corporation will continue to follow the customary practice of reporting companies to
reserve unissued shares from treasury for issuance to directors and key employees pursuant to the
Stock Option Plan approved by the shareholders of the Corporation. Options granted have been
granted in order to provide an option as a form of renumeration and an incentive to act in the best
interests of the Corporation. Options granted to directors will be subject to shareholder approval
being obtained with respect to such options.

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More from the same filing.

The table following and notes thereto provide information about the proposed directors.
The shares indicated as beneficially owned by the directors reflect the amount of shares after
consolidation. The information as to shares beneficially owned has been furnished by the
respective nominees:
Name Position With
Corporation
Occupation or Employment Period as
Director
# of Shares of the
Corporation
Beneficially Owned
Robert Talbot Chairman /
President /
Director
Dec/92 to Present
President
Medical Services Int’ Inc.
Dec 14/92 252,960
Henry Andrews Director 1990-1996
Owner & President of Central Park
Drive Through Restaurants
1990 to Present
Owner of H & B Properties
Jan 16/00 45,167
Brent Platten Director 1990 – Present
Owner / Manager Dual Tech
Project Manager Hotel de Health
(Anguilla) Inc.
Dec. 22/95 10,000

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You can read the full report there:

http://www.sedar.com/DisplayCompanyDocuments.do?lang=EN&issuerNo=00002520

Aug 9 2004
Management information circular - English

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So, what does all of this mean in English? A relatively small amount of option due to expire this month and more due to expire the end of the year? I assume the ones due to expire end of Jan. 2005 have already been exercised.

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Relatively small??? Total about 50M if you add them all at .0002/.0005 PPS...if you ask me what it means in English...may I ask if you read filings or you just don't care?

If they were exercised, well, where's the info?

Anyway. What happened to FatherOfTwo? You started posting just when he stopped? Coincidence?

Don't worry, I wont bother you with my info anymore...since I have a feeling I am. I made my point. Been doing my DD for a year on this one, called CEO couple times, was a shareholder for at least 3 in/out.

Yes they have potential...but I don't think they care about shareholders at all.

GL to you.


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So, what does all of this mean in English? A relatively small amount of option due to expire this month and more due to expire the end of the year? I assume the ones due to expire end of Jan. 2005 have already been exercised.



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No, I am just a father of 1 [Smile] Not quite sure what got you all worked up?? Your the one sending out private messages to everyone who has posted under this thread, what is your motivation may I ask? I have a small position in this company becasue I think they have a good product and good potential. And to answer your questions, no, I don't read filings, not yet. I am new to trading, I am learning every day and to be honest, I only understand about 10% of the info on that url you posted. I have no idea of the options have been exercised, all I know that if my options were to expire in less than 1 month, I wouldn't wait until the last minute to exercise them.

And, when I asked you to tell me in english what it meant, I am serious, I really don't understand the ramifications of having so many options. I figure most companies offer options and don't understand why this is any different, and obviously this info has been avaialable for some time, it is old, correct?

Anyway, I appreciate it if you are honestly just trying to help a fellow investor. I really am new. I don't know what your motivations are.

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I only sended the message to you to get your opininon since your where posting on it. Sorry if I misunderstood your question, I thought you were nagging me.

As for option, knowing that the CEO and many more insiders are gonna get zillions of shares this months for less then .0005 PPS doesnt help getting the PPS up. After they have finished selling there shares...and if they finally go real time transaction, then we might see something. Until then, the only thing I can see is the CEO keeping everyone in the dark for some reason...and it's not for the good of shareholders IMO.

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No, I am just a father of 1 [Smile] Not quite sure what got you all worked up?? Your the one sending out private messages to everyone who has posted under this thread, what is your motivation may I ask? I have a small position in this company becasue I think they have a good product and good potential. And to answer your questions, no, I don't read filings, not yet. I am new to trading, I am learning every day and to be honest, I only understand about 10% of the info on that url you posted. I have no idea of the options have been exercised, all I know that if my options were to expire in less than 1 month, I wouldn't wait until the last minute to exercise them.

And, when I asked you to tell me in english what it meant, I am serious, I really don't understand the ramifications of having so many options. I figure most companies offer options and don't understand why this is any different, and obviously this info has been avaialable for some time, it is old, correct?

Anyway, I appreciate it if you are honestly just trying to help a fellow investor. I really am new. I don't know what your motivations are.

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I appologize for mistaking your actions in the first place. Thank you for your information. So these insiders will get these shares and presumally turn around and sell these shares at what they can get for them rather than holding. And I assume that this is partially why the price has been drooping as of late even with the good news. People exercising these options before they expire. Does it mean anything that the exercise price is so much less for this year as last year? But, there are less options this year than last. Is there any way to tell how many of the options that expire the end of this month have been exercised?

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Still trying to find the filing but they can do it late and the SEC almost never say anything about it...some insiders transaction are even filed 5 years after they are done and people are fine $ only very little for it...

If I were to have 10M shares at .0005 and have the occasion to sell them 10x the price...the same day...well....

The only thing I'm sure is, all insiders will use their option...such a bargain.


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I appologize for mistaking your actions in the first place. Thank you for your information. So these insiders will get these shares and presumally turn around and sell these shares at what they can get for them rather than holding. And I assume that this is partially why the price has been drooping as of late even with the good news. People exercising these options before they expire. Does it mean anything that the exercise price is so much less for this year as last year? But, there are less options this year than last. Is there any way to tell how many of the options that expire the end of this month have been exercised?



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Malloy:
I did a spreadsheet to determine the value of these options and my calcs do not agree with yours. I would be happy to send you the spreadsheet if you give me your e-mail. I want to know if I screwed up. Anyway, this is what I came up with:
$425,250 = Value of options ending 1/24/05
$513,600 = Value of options ending 12/31/06

Travis

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Great DD from RB values MSITF at $.78/share.

http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=MSITF&read=43768

I have done more DD and feel safe with my position and am holding LONG!!

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It is nice to see more people posting on MSITF. This is one of my favorite Companies as they have great potential with a fabulous product line.

I haven't posted in a while, but I am still alive. I have just moved and haven't been able to post!

TTBad... I would love to see 0.78, but think something in the .1 - .2 range is more feasible once the real time quotes are provided.

Of course, if the FDA were granted, all bets are off!

GLTA

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TTBad..... here is my thought on pps potential...

20,000,000 test kits produced (current capability)
$2.00 / kit
35% expense level
2 Billion SO
12 multiple

therefore...
20,000,000 * $2.00 = $40,000,000
$40,000,000 * 0.65 = $26,000,000

$26,000,000 / 2,000,000,000 = 0.013

0.013 * 12 = $0.156 / share target valuation

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Father of 2, I agree that 0.78 is far fetched, but I am in 100% agreement that the PPS is WAY undervalued!

Another good PR today:
Medical Services Ships VScan Test Kits to Sri Lanka
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050110/nym111_1.html

And as they state in this PR, "With the increase in standing water as a result of the disaster in that region there will be a significant increase in the mosquito populations and as such an increase in Dengue Fever." the demand for their test kits will keep going up and up, market expanding, this is by far my pick for the stock with the most potential for 2005.

I still do not understand why Malloy thinks that by offering some stock options to their employees (which based on my cals are no where near the value he had) proves that they don't care about their shareholders.

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Please explain the relevance of FDA approval. thanks in advance: Also, from what I understand, real-time quotes are not available for foreign stocks (ending if F). I called pinksheets and asked.

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It is nice to see more people posting on MSITF. This is one of my favorite Companies as they have great potential with a fabulous product line.

I haven't posted in a while, but I am still alive. I have just moved and haven't been able to post!

TTBad... I would love to see 0.78, but think something in the .1 - .2 range is more feasible once the real time quotes are provided.

Of course, if the FDA were granted, all bets are off!

GLTA



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This is great news..... the distribution chain is already in place.... immediate sales/revenue could be generated with this!

Medical Services Adds Additional Test Kits To Its Inventory
Tuesday January 11, 6:01 am ET

EDMONTON, Alberta, Jan. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Medical Services International Inc. (Pinksheets: MSITF - News) is pleased to announce that it has completed testing and development of a Syphilis rapid test kit. The Company through its R&D facility in the United States developed and tested the Syphilis test kit and has begun to manufacture and ship the test kits to distributors. The development of this test kit came as a result of requests from both distributors and regulatory agencies asking that the Company use its technology to bring a syphilis test kit to market. The techniques developed during the progression of our other VScan test kits were instrumental in the rapid development of the Syphilis test kit. The Company has already begun shipping the Syphilis test kit for use in several countries.

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Everything is falling into place for MSITF! This one is poised to take off, IMO. Great PR after great PR. They have the goods!

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This is the first stock I purchased back in Feb 2004. I added to my position a couple times. They ALWAYS have great PR after great PR. I think they went as low as .0025, and as high as .0179 last year. We might get a run, but don't expect to retire from this one.

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Everything is falling into place for MSITF! This one is poised to take off, IMO. Great PR after great PR. They have the goods!



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It looks like they are gearing up for FDA approval...

Medical Services Develops the Next Generation of HIV Test Kit
Friday January 14, 6:00 am ET

EDMONTON, Alberta, Jan. 14 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Medical Services International Inc. (Pinksheets: MSITF - News) is pleased to announce that it has developed a rapid test kit that detects the HIV virus within 2 to 11 days of infection. The latest generation of the VScan HIV test kits has the unique ability to detect the IgM class of antibodies. In lab studies it was demonstrated that the VScan IgM specific kit was able to accurately detect the HIV virus in samples that the existing gold standard tested as being negative. There is no other test kit that detects the HIV virus as early as the VScan HIV IgM test kit.

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