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"Naaah. Probably your wife". Now, now legal, my old friend, that wasn't very nice. We don't want to get persoanl and get family involved, do we? Besides that's below you, I'd figure you'd one of your old deputies for that kind of attack. If you're serious though, I'll play.
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Whatever you or anyone else may want to call them (markers, phantom shares, etc), would you agree that they represent some kind of ratio of USCA shares to CMKX shares? By applying that ratio, do you think one just might be able to get extremely close to the number of I/O shares? Do you question the ratio that appears to be the same with all brokers that rec'd markers (as you call them)? How do you spin that?
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Will: "I'd figure you'd one of your old deputies for that kind of attack."
Wallace: Legaleagle, we all know that would be JBCak (now Stalk and Snipe), ThinkMoney and pharmdman, just to name those with the brightest badges.
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I kinda thought JBCak was funny sometime, of course, I wasn't the target of his insults. I sorta liked pharmdman too, he wasn't a bad sort. They sure used old JBCak to do their dirty work though. Must be a Christian trait, don't be directly hateful, have someone else do it for you, that way you can honestly claim to be a good person.
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Do you think that will give legaleagle a clue (for credible detective work) that I am not the only one who knows he previously posted under the name of "noahltl"?
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quote:Originally posted by will: Well, that's all circumstantial now, isn't it? Scott Peterson got the death penalty based on the same type of evidence though.
Circumstantial my butt!!! It's an obvious fact! Let's see if an x-cop can figure that out.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: "You really don't have a grasp on the enormity of this situation do you?" ************************************** I sure do, legaleagle!!!
800,000,000,000 shs enormous.
No financial reports as promised for months on end.
No mining results of any significance. Instead, results disappointing.
Party that bombed and some little lady wanted to take UC apart for what has happened with CMKX.
Claims valued by insiders as opposed to independent valuations.
Stocks stopped trading and CMKX being investigated. Similar situation with associated company USCA.
Efforts diverted away from diamond mining...and still no results of any magnitude.
Questionable pasts of participant executives.
Non-arms'length transactions, conflicts of interest and rampant nepotism involving others and family members.
Non-informative, nonexistent and ambiguous PRs
"800,000,000,000 shs enormous."
800 billion shs AS. Show the "float"
"No financial reports as promised for months on end."
They are working on their timetable, not yours.
'No mining results of any significance. Instead, results disappointing.'
Once again their timetable.
"Party that bombed and some little lady wanted to take UC apart for what has happened with CMKX."
Irrelevant to the stock.
"Claims valued by insiders as opposed to independent valuations."
Independent audit just completed.
"Stocks stopped trading and CMKX being investigated. Similar situation with associated company USCA."
Stoppped in one Province of Canada. Trading resumed on USCA and fully reporting.
"Efforts diverted away from diamond mining...and still no results of any magnitude."
None reported, filing impending.
"Questionable pasts of participant executives."
Charges filed, no convictions. Happens in every business these days.
"Non-arms'length transactions, conflicts of interest and rampant nepotism involving others and family members."
Show evidence.
"Non-informative, nonexistent and ambiguous PRs"
Confidentiality, their schedule, their agenda. You will know when they are ready to tell you.
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10 to 1 Upside knows and that's why he's not touching the topic. Wouldn't surprise me if he's the one whose encouragement got noahltl to grace us with his presence as legaleagle. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by will: "Naaah. Probably your wife". Now, now legal, my old friend, that wasn't very nice. We don't want to get persoanl and get family involved, do we? Besides that's below you, I'd figure you'd one of your old deputies for that kind of attack. If you're serious though, I'll play.
Let's see will, you called me "legal beagle" and attempted to make juvenile fun of my post referencing the "enormity of the situation".
Seems you want to dish it out, but can't take it without being offended. I guess "humor" directed at others is alright, but not when it comes back to you.
I have no intention of playing any kind of games with you or Wallace. My investment is serious business to me.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: Up - Thanks. Missed it.
legaleagle,
Whatever you or anyone else may want to call them (markers, phantom shares, etc), would you agree that they represent some kind of ratio of USCA shares to CMKX shares? By applying that ratio, do you think one just might be able to get extremely close to the number of I/O shares? Do you question the ratio that appears to be the same with all brokers that rec'd markers (as you call them)? How do you spin that?
The "markers" are indicative of a distribution. If you research that PR, you will find that UC made reference to wanting every shareholder to receive dividends. He didn't specify "legitimate" shareholders. You do know of course that if they suspect "naked shorting" that they would be looking for an accurate count of those naked shares. I think they got it, and proved a massive NSS situation.
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legaleagle: Confidentiality, their schedule, their agenda. You will know when they are ready to tell you. "
Wallace: Oh, yes, I forgot about your avid belief in the "Master Plan". Answer the ratio question! Who originated that ratio?
legaleagle: "My investment is serious business to me."
Wallace: Sad, sad, sad, that you can call CMKX an investment. That's equivalent to calling cow p:ss ginger ale.
legaleagle: "You do know of course that if they suspect "naked shorting" that they would be looking for an accurate count of those naked shares. I think they got it, and proved a massive NSS situation."
Wallace: Don't I remember just a few posts back that you said you are not a proponent of NNS?
Wallace: Your comment about "legitimate" shares is little more than weasel wording.
quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: legaleagle: Confidentiality, their schedule, their agenda. You will know when they are ready to tell you. "
Wallace: Oh, yes, I forgot about your avid belief it the "Master Plan".
legaleagle: "My investment is serious business to me."
Wallace: Sad, sad, sad, that you can call CMKX an investment. That's equivalent to calling cow p:ss ginger ale.
legaleagle: "You do know of course that if they suspect "naked shorting" that they would be looking for an accurate count of those naked shares. I think they got it, and proved a massive NSS situation."
Wallace: Don't I remember just a few post back that you said you are not a proponent of NNS?
Wallace: Your comment about "legitimate" shares is little more than weasel wording.
legaleagle: Confidentiality, their schedule, their agenda. You will know when they are ready to tell you. "
Wallace: Oh, yes, I forgot about your avid belief it the "Master Plan".
I have an "avid belief" that Roger Glenn laid out an intricate plan for bringing this company to full reporting status, just as was PR'd. I believe from what I have seen that it is an intricate plan that has already caught the "naked shorters" in a trap. I believe that we are about to see the results of that plan. If you want to call it a "master plan", OK.
legaleagle: "My investment is serious business to me."
Wallace: Sad, sad, sad, that you can call CMKX an investment. That's equivalent to calling cow p:ss ginger ale.
Now there is a mature and professional assessment. Again, I guess we will have to see if it is an investment or not.
legaleagle: "You do know of course that if they suspect "naked shorting" that they would be looking for an accurate count of those naked shares. I think they got it, and proved a massive NSS situation."
Wallace: Don't I remember just a few post back that you said you are not a proponent of NNS?
I am most certainly a proponent of massive NSS on this stock. I believe I said I was not a "pumper" of the NSS
Wallace: Your comment about "legitimate" shares is little more than weasel wording.
I stand behind my wording. If a share is naked shorted, it is a counterfeit. It is a felony to counterfeit such shares. Those properly issued by the company are "legitimate" and those that are counterfeit are not. With your extensive background in the market, I would think that you would be fully aware of that.
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Seems like a lot of personal OT picking at each other here can anyone direct me an older mature poster name OL MULLET ? He seemed to know a lot about mining and related stock plays. If he is still here I need to come up to speed quickly on: 1- New attorney 2- Drilling status 3- and what's this party referenced ? 4- SA mines Lefty
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I haven't seen an Ole Mullet post in probably over a year or more. He was a very good day trader. Also, very smart writer and had a great personality. He was respected and admired by all the posters. He never bought into CMKX though. He always said when this co. shows him a pr that's legit he would think about it. He'd post once in awhile in the CMKX threads. In that time the whole first page of Allstocks was 90% CMKX. One day it was all CMKX threads (CMKI was the symbol then) when a poster named Bailey bumped all of them to the top. There were so many threads on this co. that they bumped over to the second page. Talk about posters being pizzed off. Bailey hated the stock so much and was always trying to save everyone from buying. I guess somethings never change. lol
------------------------------------------------------------------- January 18, 2005 12:54 PM US Eastern Timezone
United Development International: Five Ounces Gold Per Ton Discovered on La Ronge Gold Property
LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 18, 2005--United Development International (Pink Sheets: UDVE) will be focusing its drilling plans on high-grade ore concentrations which have returned more than 5 ounces of gold per ton in original assay results.
At the current market price of $423 USD per ounce, each ton excavated will result in gross proceeds of $2,115 USD. Every 1,000 tons mined will result in gross revenue of $2,115,000 USD.
There is significant information to expect a sizeable anomaly with tremendous tonnage on these properties.
Initial geology reports from a small drill sampling program lead management to believe this site could generate significant gold and possibly, diamond production over the next three years. Also, early indications from the limited sampling program lead management to believe proven reserve testing will yield results sufficient to justify investment in full-scale commercial mining facilities.
The company has completed initial drill testing on the property which has yielded positive and consistent occurrences of gold of sufficient quantity to support a sustained commercial mining operation. In addition, the property is located within a short distance of a DeBeers joint venture at Fort Ala Corne, Saskatchewan, also adjacent to the La Ronge Gold Belt, which geologists have stated contains one of the single largest kimberlite deposits in the world. Kimberlite is the host rock for diamond deposits.
United Development International is quoted on NQB Pink Sheets as "UDVE."
CAUTIONARY STATEMENT: This news release may include forward-looking statements within the meaning of Section 21E of the United States Securities Exchange Act as amended, and/or the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements involve various risks and uncertainties. There can be no assurance that such statements will prove to be accurate and actual results and future events could differ materially from those anticipated in such statements that involve various risks and uncertainties. All forward-looking statements in this release are expressly qualified by this notice.
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but it really doesnt do us any good. we are never going to get to that stage. we have to first find some samples that have some sort of diamond or gold or anythign remotely possible.
that does not appear to be happening on our claims.
-------------------- Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.
This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.
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did anyone look at that UDVE company?? now there's a risky mining company worth risking a few bucks on. we need to get ahold of the owner, get him in NASCAR, have a party in Vegas & this company could really go places....oh ya that was tried before, it didn't work that time either
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i see usca is no longer on the SHO list. means the short has been covered & todays close is $2.17...hmmmmm i wonder how this gets twisted into a cmkx short theory. i will say that list is getting shorter. its about 1/2 of what it was.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i see usca is no longer on the SHO list. means the short has been covered & todays close is $2.17...hmmmmm i wonder how this gets twisted into a cmkx short theory. i will say that list is getting shorter. its about 1/2 of what it was.
I am sure the faithful will find a way.
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Member Rated: posted January 19, 2005 20:35 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Dave: CMKX will GO...soon. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
GO Where !!!!!!!
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a flushing sound comes to mind....
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If you want you can come here and degrade every little good thing that is ever posted.But nobody here from this thread constantly bashes QBID everyday,and from what I hear, "Frank" could use some bashing.lol Oh well,whatever, It really makes no difference to me.
But all I put out there was a PR. And just the headline alone maybe good news for CMKX ... "United Development International: Five Ounces Gold Per Ton Discovered on La Ronge Gold Property".
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Perhaps you have yet to read the vast amount of imformation out there relating to regulation SHO. The mm's will not be forced to cover the shares until at the earliest next week. There is something else going on with the list. It would seem that they are simply deleting companies off of the list. If you have paid any attention at all to it sence it was first made available to the public you would have noticed that over half of the companies that were put on the list have been taken off w/o reason. If they were attempting to cover the shorted shares you would have seen an increase in volume for the companies that are no longer on there. To date there has been no increase in volume over the past two weeks for any of the companies that have magically vanished from the list. I do not pretend to know what is goint on but simple logic dictates that covering has not yet begun.
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quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i see usca is no longer on the SHO list. means the short has been covered & todays close is $2.17...hmmmmm i wonder how this gets twisted into a cmkx short theory. i will say that list is getting shorter. its about 1/2 of what it was.
The early reviews on Regulation SHO are in, and they are not favorable. According to some of the reviews I have read in the media recently, Regulation SHO seems to be turning into Regulation SHO What- meaning the SEC is just playing lip service to the many companies and shareholders who have been bitterly complaining about the widespread practice of illegal naked short selling. Read the January 4th edition for some background if you are not familiar with the issue.
According to David Patch who edits the "StockGate" electronic newsletter, there were originally 374 stocks on the Threshold list. Inexplicably, the vast majority simply disappeared. 110 are now left. Click Here to view the most current version of the list. Nearly every microcap company on the Bulletin Board and in the Pink Sheets that was originally on the list has now mysteriously disappeared.
Lending credibility to the entire issue was a paper recently published by University of New Mexico Professor Leslie Boni, which was initiated while the author was visiting financial economist at the SEC.
According to Professor Boni's findings, 42% of listed stocks at the New York Stock Exchange, NASDAQ and AMEX, and 47% of unlisted stocks in the OTCBB and Pink Sheets had persistent fails of 5 days or more with 4% being above the SEC's threshold limits for failures.
The media is calling the growing evidence of widespread abuse within the system as "StockGate", and some heavy legal entities are throwing their weight into the fight.
A consortium of law firms has now filed over 20 civil cases. The law firms include O'Quinn, Laminack & Pirtle, Christian Smith & Jewell, and Heard, Robins, Cloud, Lubel & Greenwood, LLP, all of Houston, Texas. This group of firms is well known for the gigantic awards they have been able to garner from the Tobacco industry.
In comments to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, C. Austin Burrell, who is providing litigation support and research for the law firms, said that StockGate is more massive than anyone may have imagined. "Illegal Naked Short Selling has stripped hundreds of billions, if not TRILLIONS, of dollars from American investors," and have resulted in over 7,000 public companies having been "shorted out of existence over the past six years." Burrell said some experts believe as much as $1 trillion to $3 trillion has been lost to this practice.
According to the law suits, the DTC is at the heart of the problem. The DTC is the electronic clearing exchange that handles the electronic transfer of shares from one firm to another. The suits allege DTC has an inherent conflict of interest in the entire short selling scandal through the huge income stream they were realizing from it every day. They have made billions of dollars lending individual real shares, in most cases over and over, getting a fee each time they made a journal entry in a "Stock Borrow Program."
Most of the information in today's edition was gleaned from an article published yesterday in the online version of Investors Business Daily. It makes for fascinating reading. Click Here to read the article.
The DTC is owned jointly by the NASDAQ and the New York Stock Exchange. If billions in revenues are in fact being generated by the DTC for allowing failures to deliver, the law suits will eventually uncover the ugly truth.
In the interim, NBC's Dateline is rumored to be preparing a major expose on the issue, and activists in the growing StockGate scandal are trying to recruit Eliot Spitzer to help in the investigation. Stay tuned: This is getting exciting. editor@otcjournal.com
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