quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: P-T, Didn't make any money on CMKX so you blame God?LOL I think God made the diamonds,not the diamond mining companies. God also gave man free will to hit the buy/sell button.LOL
AMEN Highwaychild. I started to comment on that but Wallace1 is already on his "noahltl" kick with me. Bringing God into our exchanges would send him into a "tizzy" about the 'faithful'.
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legal...don't get ric started on a/s - o/s type things....lol. as for cmkx, no news is good news. the only news left is "well we went bye bye" or "sorry but the reduction in shares showing in your accouts is our r/s from h**l"..........do i get holiday pay for bashing??? when my mommy told me to tell the truth little did i know i could one day get paid for it...lol
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I have just returned after a long absence and notice a lot of discussion about O/S. I am a bit confused as when I was last actively watching this stock( and a coinvestor with Urban Casavant). It is now apparent a new business plan has been executed and ownership moved from Canada to USA. At the time of transfer an Attorney(sorry can't remember name) was hire to do this & paid in shares (One billion as I recall).Today I heard (maybe only a rumor) that this attorney was being asked to sign a form to allow a filng for something. If the filing for an exchange then maybe form was for a 5% insider ownership. Unfortunely I was a bit less than this amount< but MY QUESTION IS: If the legal payment of 1b shares is 5% then the maximum O/S would be 20b. This of course would be for legally authorized shares. Can someone direct me to research that would indicate different ?. Lefty
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: P-T, Didn't make any money on CMKX so you blame God?LOL I think God made the diamonds,not the diamond mining companies. God also gave man free will to hit the buy/sell button.LOL
AMEN Highwaychild. I started to comment on that but Wallace1 is already on his "noahltl" kick with me. Bringing God into our exchanges would send him into a "tizzy" about the 'faithful'.
legal, I don't get the impression that wallace is anti-God. Perhaps he IS anti-faithful but, imo, not even completely that.
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sorry. the above was supposed to be in reply to legal who had the following quote....
AMEN Highwaychild. I started to comment on that but Wallace1 is already on his "noahltl" kick with me. Bringing God into our exchanges would send him into a "tizzy" about the 'faithful'.
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oh contrair. i am in Ontario and can not do anything with my shares. they are locked and i can not change my orders there has been a trading halt on them.
quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Penny Trader said: "CMKX IS shut down in Canada. it is a POS that is why the trading restrictions have not been lifted in the last 3 months."
CMKX is shut down in one province, Saskatchewan, for charges of unlicensed sales of stock by three individuals; and making unsubstantiated claims concerning the stock. NOTE: This is a complaint, not a conviction. Why haven't the other provinces shut down trading. Why hasn't the SEC launched an investigation of CMKX based on those charges. Could it be that there is no merit to the case? Could it be that Roger is considering it no more than a nuisance? Could it be that the impending filing has the answers to the Sask questions and that Roger is not going to make a public record concerning the company until he is ready to file?
Come on Penny Trader you can do better than that.
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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.
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quote:I have just returned after a long absence and notice a lot of discussion about O/S. I am a bit confused as when I was last actively watching this stock( and a coinvestor with Urban Casavant). It is now apparent a new business plan has been executed and ownership moved from Canada to USA. At the time of transfer an Attorney(sorry can't remember name) was hire to do this & paid in shares (One billion as I recall).Today I heard (maybe only a rumor) that this attorney was being asked to sign a form to allow a filng for something. If the filing for an exchange then maybe form was for a 5% insider ownership. Unfortunely I was a bit less than this amount< but MY QUESTION IS: If the legal payment of 1b shares is 5% then the maximum O/S would be 20b. This of course would be for legally authorized shares. Can someone direct me to research that would indicate different ?. Lefty
So Lefty, Let me get this straight. You were a co-investor with Urban, and had "a bit less" than a billion shares, and now you've just lost track of the stock and the company? I've got an idea, why not just call your old investing buddy Urban on the phone and ask him? Let us know what he says!
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no exactly the opposite happened to me i made my money and hold the shares i do free of charge. i had 5 million at .00015 average and sold off 3 million at .0008
my remark about god is to those that felt god was going to make this investment good for them.
you know what im talkign about.
that was the talk in here for the longest time.
the cristian tradig alliance or what ever they called themselves.
quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: P-T, Didn't make any money on CMKX so you blame God?LOL I think God made the diamonds,not the diamond mining companies. God also gave man free will to hit the buy/sell button.LOL
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This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.
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quote:Originally posted by TANGO42: I have just returned after a long absence and notice a lot of discussion about O/S. I am a bit confused as when I was last actively watching this stock( and a coinvestor with Urban Casavant). It is now apparent a new business plan has been executed and ownership moved from Canada to USA. At the time of transfer an Attorney(sorry can't remember name) was hire to do this & paid in shares (One billion as I recall).Today I heard (maybe only a rumor) that this attorney was being asked to sign a form to allow a filng for something. If the filing for an exchange then maybe form was for a 5% insider ownership. Unfortunely I was a bit less than this amount< but MY QUESTION IS: If the legal payment of 1b shares is 5% then the maximum O/S would be 20b. This of course would be for legally authorized shares. Can someone direct me to research that would indicate different ?. Lefty
Tango, his name is Chris Jensen. He is the Las Vegas attorney that assisted Urban in transfering the Cyber Mark Inc. into CMKI. The alledged source of this information is the Transfer Agent. This occured about three days ago, and may signal the final accumulation of needed documentation to complete the filing.
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Never met him, not sure where he's from. A bit less meant on 4m. That was a lot for me @ .03. Also notice folks using "faithful", is this describing some posters ? Lefty
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It's a matter of resisting temptation that comes from loving money, Penny-Trader. But Jeremiah believed that God involves himself in the successes of men. I do too. Penny_trader, please don't interpret this as being argumentative. JMO.
But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction. 1 Ti 6:9 (a caution)
For I know the plans that I have for you,' declares the LORD, 'plans for welfare and not for calamity to give you a future and a hope. Jer 29:11 (a hope)
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legaleagle: "MEN Highwaychild. I started to comment on that but Wallace1 is already on his "noahltl" kick with me. Bringing God into our exchanges would send him into a "tizzy" about the 'faithful'."
Wallace#1: Legleagle, you are insulting your own intelligence as well as that of every other poster on this thread to suggest that you are someone other than the person who previously posted on this thread under the name of "noahltl". Please stop playing the fool! It does you no justice.
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Well, when I refer to faithful it is without reference to anyone's religious beliefs. I think I covered what I thought of the born again, vs. good and bad people in a post on another thread. When I say faithful I mean those that will accept any BS nonsensical theory regarding this stock, whether it be from, Sterling, Zen, Dr D, or their own little pea brains. They concoct these fantasically wild "what ifs", to keep their flickering hope alive. They believe in the management of this company, they are blindly loyal, and foolishly faithful to it. The wilder the fantasy the harder they push and sell it. The company does not have to say anything they let these ribid faithful do it for them. No one knows what these clowns are doing. Evidence of NSS in the industry, big deal, the industry does not = CMKX. Reporting Co. NO! The SHO list is referring to companies that "reported to the SEC their O/S", that's what reporting means in this instance. CMKX hasn't even reported O/S to the SEC to resolve the NSS issue, if it exists. They dare refer to CMKK as a reporting Co., and they dare represent the industry as equal to CMKX's situation. Industry is a far leap from one lowly 800B O/S fiasco. Sadly right now the light at the end of the tunnel looks like a train. I wouldn't be playing on these tracks, and for sure wouldn't be anymore of CMKX.
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Anyone ever see this. Many of the faithful hold this stock because of the hiring of Attorney Glenn.
From Stockwatch: "According to many of the CMKM faithful, any account of the company that does not include mention of its highly touted lawyer, D. Roger Glenn, would be seriously remiss, at best. Great weight is placed on Mr. Glenn's association with the company; indeed, some shareholders claim that he is the reason they hold the stock.
Many CMKM followers claim that Mr. Glenn is one of the top securities lawyers in the U.S., some extend that to one of the best in the world. While Mr. Glenn may indeed be a very good securities lawyer, Stockwatch has not been able to discover any publication ranking him among the top securities lawyers in the U.S. or anywhere else.
A review of SEC filings indicates that Mr. Glenn has been with three different law firms over the past five years and his name appears in SEC filings by at least 12 reporting companies over the same time period. Six of those companies are currently trading on either the OTC Bulletin Board or the pink sheets.
Mr. Glenn has not responded to a Stockwatch interview request."
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Member Rated: posted January 17, 2005 19:27 oh contrair. i am in Ontario and can not do anything with my shares. they are locked and i can not change my orders there has been a trading halt on them.
Penny Trader I just spoke to two Canadians from Ontario who are having no problems trading through their brokers, just not online. The halt order is only for Saskatchewan.
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quote:Originally posted by will: Anyone ever see this. Many of the faithful hold this stock because of the hiring of Attorney Glenn.
From Stockwatch: "According to many of the CMKM faithful, any account of the company that does not include mention of its highly touted lawyer, D. Roger Glenn, would be seriously remiss, at best. Great weight is placed on Mr. Glenn's association with the company; indeed, some shareholders claim that he is the reason they hold the stock.
Many CMKM followers claim that Mr. Glenn is one of the top securities lawyers in the U.S., some extend that to one of the best in the world. While Mr. Glenn may indeed be a very good securities lawyer, Stockwatch has not been able to discover any publication ranking him among the top securities lawyers in the U.S. or anywhere else.
A review of SEC filings indicates that Mr. Glenn has been with three different law firms over the past five years and his name appears in SEC filings by at least 12 reporting companies over the same time period. Six of those companies are currently trading on either the OTC Bulletin Board or the pink sheets.
Mr. Glenn has not responded to a Stockwatch interview request."
Lee Webb of Stockwatch is the antithesis of Willy Wizard and Sterling. He hangs around the CMKX IHUB site, doing research for his stories. I notice you had to go back to a Sept 24th article to find anything negative about Glenn.
Perhaps Webb could have stopped by Edwards & Angell website if he really wanted to know about him:
Roger has over 20 years of experience in securities law. He has handled numerous IPOs and other public offerings, PIPE transactions, exchange and hostile and friendly tender offers, mergers and acquisitions involving public and private companies, private placements, Rule 144A sales, Rule 10b5-1 plans and all filings and reports required by the Securities Exchange Act of 1934.
The companies he has represented have been in the telecommunications, media, health care, financial services, technology and software industries and have had securities listed on the New York and American stock exchanges and the NASDAQ stock market.
Notable Experience Roger was involved in the $600 million acquisition by a major telecom company of corporations and limited liability companies holding FCC licenses.
Roger represented another major telecom company in a cash tender offer and the $450 million outstanding high-yield debt of an acquisition target pursuant to a change-of-control indenture provision.
He was instrumental in the acquisition of an Austrian wireless telecom company with $1 billion of assets.
Roger handled the successful takeover of an insurance company by hostile tender offer.
Roger represented a telecom company in the issuance of $200 million in Senior Notes in a PIPE transaction.
Recent Speaking Engagements and Publications The Going Public Sourcebook,co-author, a guide to the initial public offering process and ongoing reporting and other compliance obligations of a public company published by RR Donnelley Financial.
Corporate Responsibilities of Public Companies in 2003, author, 2003.
Before Edwards & Angell After college, Roger practiced as a Certified Public Accountant on the audit staff of Deloitte & Touche in Miami. He began his legal career with the Securities and Exchange Commission, where he conducted investigations for the enforcement division.
Besides Edwards & Angell Roger is an enthusiastic golfer and tennis player.
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There's two sides to every story though. Not everything that is done at Mr Glenns firm is in the best interests of shareholders. Take a look at this area of expertise:
Mass Litigation PROFESSIONALS : RECENT MATTERS : CLIENTS : PUBLICATIONS
National counsel to major telecommunications and computer companies in mass product liability litigation.
National counsel to a Fortune 100 Company in silica exposure litigation.
National counsel to a multi-national building products manufacturer for product liability class actions and toxic mold cases.
National counsel to a Class I railroad on hazmat class actions.
Regional representation of breast implant manufacturers.
Regional representation of leading manufacturers and distributors of asbestos products and other companies facing liability for asbestos exposure.
Lead counsel and defense liaison counsel in Louisiana state and federal courts in numerous class actions arising out of chemical spills and toxic torts.
Lead counsel for chemical and petroleum companies in New York City toxic tort litigation.
Counsel to general aviation aircraft manufacturer in air crash and design defect claims, and regular representation of major commercial airlines in claims arising out of premises liability and other injury claims.
Represented manufacturers and distributors in class action cases involving latex gloves as well as automobile manufacturers in sudden acceleration cases.
Frequent representation of manufacturers of industrial equipment and machinery for liability arising out of workplace injuries and accidents.
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And these achievments were listed under Mr. Glenns area of expertise, Securities:
Litigation All class action claims were dismissed when we defended a public company, its directors and executive officers in securities fraud and insider trading class actions, filed in New York federal court.
A dismissal of all derivative claims resulted from our defense of a public company and its directors in fiduciary duty derivative actions filed in Delaware and Florida state courts.
In the first securities fraud case/class action to be tried under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act, we received a verdict for the defendant, a national accounting firm, through a jury trial.
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"After college, Roger practiced as a Certified Public Accountant on the audit staff of Deloitte & Touche in Miami." ****************************** And why the hell is it taking him so long to get CMKX to be fully reporting? If he has any talent at all, this should have been completed long ago.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: And these achievments were listed under Mr. Glenns area of expertise, Securities:
Litigation All class action claims were dismissed when we defended a public company, its directors and executive officers in securities fraud and insider trading class actions, filed in New York federal court.
A dismissal of all derivative claims resulted from our defense of a public company and its directors in fiduciary duty derivative actions filed in Delaware and Florida state courts.
In the first securities fraud case/class action to be tried under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act, we received a verdict for the defendant, a national accounting firm, through a jury trial.
Upside and will, he is not a "public defender" or Civil Liberties Union attorney. He represents clients on both sides, not just what may be politically correct or popular. And apparently does very well.
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quote:Originally posted by Wallace#1: "After college, Roger practiced as a Certified Public Accountant on the audit staff of Deloitte & Touche in Miami." ****************************** And why the hell is it taking him so long to get CMKX to be fully reporting? If he has any talent at all, this should have been completed long ago.
You really don't have a grasp on the enormity of this situation do you?
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Gender: Posts: 342 Why Bashing is better than Pumping ... « Thread started on: Today at 2:10pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If I were to say; "CMKX is in breach of contract to all shareholders for failure to deliver a formally announced dividend". Everyone would label me a basher.
If I were to say; "CMKX has the goods and will become the richest company in the world". Everyone cheers and labels me a pumper.
Which is better?
By only spewing half truths and speculation to make a company look better than it really is, you are creating an environment that is more volatile and emotional whenever said half truths and speculation do not come true.
On the other hand, by spewing half truths and speculation to make a company look bad then the environment created is one of doubt and causes each individual to rely upon their own positive DD to justify their holdings of the company. Thus, whatever transpires and its consequences are the sole responsibility of the individual.
Case 1: "We have the goods. Diamonds, Gold, Silver, Uranium, Potash, Zinc, ... " and whatever else. Half-truths at best. We only know that we have 2 microdiamonds from a previously discarded Kimberlite pipe. Yes we have claims that MAY produce Diamonds etc... but we do not have confirmation about any tangible results NOT EVEN GOLD. CMKX did PR the acquisition of the gold mine but it is USCA that has been showing the gold. Who's to say that is CMKX's gold?
Case 2: CMKX is a scam or at best a very poorly managed company. CMKX indeed had over 1.4 million acres of mineral claims in Sask. Do they still? Unknown (there is no proof that indicates CMKX still retains control over those claims) CMKX remains silent (a bad indicator to me). R. Williams has submitted a form 144 to sell (what appears to be) his entire holdings of USCA. USCA was suspended by the SEC.
If you only look at one Case then your view is tainted. When only looking at Case 1 your expectations become unrealistic. When only looking at Case 2 this whole situation screams Scam.
But if CMKX fails; Which would you rather be? Pumper or Bsaher?
If CMKX succeeds; Which would you rather be? Pumper or Basher?
In both cases I would prefer to be a Basher!
I don't see how some people can come on here a spew the positive tall tales (a lot of which are just outright falsehoods) and look at themselves in the mirror. By being negative you put the responsibility of finding the positive on the individual. By being only positive you create a false sense of security.
Some things said on this board have been extreme in both direction but the rampant pumping is shameful.
I thought this board was created to dicuss the pro's and con's of trading CMKX shares. I guess I was wrong.
But what do I know, I'm only a dog.
Scoobert
P.S. - I won't even go into the constant labeling of people
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there ya go legel. you've just made our point. he's a good lawyer who could be working for, dare i say, the guy writing the check. now unless i missed something i don't remember stockholders giving him a dime. so unless all you other stockholders are covering my share of the bill i'd say he's a company man bought & paid for. as for the o/s comment call the state of nevada the a/s is 800 billion raised 3 days before the dividend pay date.
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