quote:Originally posted by bill1352: i think i hear a lady singing somewhere and she doesn't sound skinny
Yep she has been practicing for months and soon will belch out her tune to mark the end. I hope that I am wrong but not much evidence to prove different.
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Now, now, fellas. Hasn't this group of thieves been here at least once before, and managed to make this little piggy run to .001 from .0001? Just remember, if when there is a next time, don't listen to the follish faithful, dump it quick!
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quote:Originally posted by ohsnap: urban pr's "ooops!!! i'm sorry but thanks for the free hummer and a racecars!!"
Next PR "When Hell Freezes Over And The Devil Learns To Skate". Does anyone know if Urban or Glenn know how to skate? If they do then maybe it will be soon
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Okay, rumors are flying on some of the other boards that the date for the second GEMM divy has been pushed back to Dec. 10. I dont know where this info came from or who started it. I imagine one of these days CMKX will open it's mouth and more than air will come out. We are so desperate for a PR, that most of us are running in circles. LOL
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quote:Originally posted by ed19363: Okay, rumors are flying on some of the other boards that the date for the second GEMM divy has been pushed back to Dec. 10. I dont know where this info came from or who started it. I imagine one of these days CMKX will open it's mouth and more than air will come out. We are so desperate for a PR, that most of us are running in circles. LOL
quote:Originally posted by SmokingUSA: Steve: I hope not because then I would get 0 because I just received mine from last month today! J000820 JUINA MINING CORP (NEW) RESTRICTEd
Smoking, I just pulled my Ameritrade account, I show 471 shares of Restricted stock. It has been in my account for almost a month. The way I read the report I will receive another 471 on 12-15-04. I still haven't determined what the restriction is. Ameritrade claims they don't know either! Steve
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Glad to see you are still around and check in once in a while.
You wrote: "Just would not like to see others taken in thats all."
Sterling, Dr D, Melvin and Green Baron aren't the only ones that took in people on CMKX. There are quite a few on the CT site that did the same on a more consistent basis. That, to me, is more the pity. Then, when anyone showed the REAL facts and projected future results, they were ripped into unmercifully...and by almost all of those very same people on the CT board. Even the blind leading the blind do a better job of accomplishing positive goals!
The past couple days I have been talking to a class action attny about another stock I had seen on the class action list. I mentioned to this attny about CMKX and how I lost BIG time $ as with many others. I also stated that if there is a class action against them that I would love to be lead plantif. And that if anyone were to look at the canadian court records about urban and his manipulating past they may find some dirt. The attny responded that they are going to look into it and thanked me for the tip. Hopefully we can get back some cash!!
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Steve: Trading Direct doesn't add them to the account until they have the physical shares. I'm guessing that you are still holding approx 4 Million to 5 Million shares still. You must a few more than I'm still holding. My Trading Direct account shows 456 of the JUINA MINING CORP (NEW)RESTRICTED I bet the new don't show up in my account until 1-10-2005 since they don't add them till they get the physical shares. If I bought out of the Scottrade account they post them right away though. I was just wondering what possessed me to do what I did on this stock. I was suppose to be in and out on this one. I probably was taken with the dividends! Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. HAPPY TRADING
"Smoking, I just pulled my Ameritrade account, I show 471 shares of Restricted stock. It has been in my account for almost a month. The way I read the report I will receive another 471 on 12-15-04. I still haven't determined what the restriction is. Ameritrade claims they don't know either! Steve"
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Okay, now that is settled. My math skills are not what they should be, but..... I hold 27M CMKX. The original Gemm divy was .00012267 of something like 93M shares of GEMM. Ameritrade posted my account with 3312 shares of GEMM last month. The second PR about GEMM divy was an additional 127,336,036 shares using the same .00012267 factor, which equals 4405 MORE shares of GEMM, which I should get on December 10. You math geniuses may be able to use these figures to apply to your own accounts and figure out how much GEMM you still have coming. For those who never received the first GEMM divy, that is something that needs to be addressed by your brokerage. All I know is I am supposed to end up with 7717 total GEMM shares when this is finished. Hope this info helps everyone out. Ed
Trading, you are being a bit presumptious. I don't want you speaking for me. Nor do I want you doing anything to further delay the culmination of whatever might become of cmkx. If it only goes .004 in the next two years, I figure 40,000 dollars per year for those two years will be worth the fun money I invested. If you want to consult an attorney, do it on your own. Leave my investment alone please.
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For those discussing the dividends, you are making a presumption that you have already received the first GEMM dividend. Those "shares" are not restricted shares, they are "markers", placed there by the brokers until they receive 'certs'. In effect what we are reading at OTCBB is in effect a delay of the first dividend until Dec 10.
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"LAS VEGAS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Aug. 2, 2004--CMKM Diamonds Inc. (Pink Sheets: CMKX - News) announced today that it has elected to distribute the 95,502,027 shares of Juina Mining Corp. (Pink Sheets: GEMM - News) which were recently purchased by the company as a dividend to its shareholders.
The company has chosen Oct. 1, 2004, as the record and distribution date for this latest dividend to its shareholders.
In addition, GEMM has issued a 60-day option to CMKX to purchase shares equivalent to an additional 24% of the outstanding shares in GEMM for an additional $500,000 USD. When exercised, the company has elected to distribute this additional 127,336,036 as a dividend on the same record and distribution date."
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Note that the number of shares to distribute in the first dividend is 95,502,027.
The number of shares for the second dividend is 127,336,036.
Unless there was an increase in the OS that exactly duplicated the percentage of rise in the number of divy 2 shares distributed, you would not get exactly the same distribution rate of .00012267
Call your broker, I think you will discover that they have not yet received the certs for the first dividend, and have not credited your account with 'real' shares.
If that doesn't work, call the TA, you will find that they have not yet sent the certs for the first dividend yet.
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I've got to agree with dwman regarding the class action suit. If you could get one initiated I don't see any way the outcome could be favorable to shareholders. If the company is a scam, it would be exposed as just that and that would be the end of the story. Guess who would benefit? The class action attorneys, not the class itself. I've been involved in a number of these and I believe the largest amount I ever received was $12.00 from a Genentech suit many years ago.
If on the other hand the company is legit, the cost and time involved in defending itself could pretty much wipe it out as well. It's a no win situation by getting attorneys involved.
quote:Thanks Upside. You get two more days of free digging from me. lol
Just might have to take you up on that as I'm converging on a new back yard drill site. Using the latest magnetic resonating technology, I tied a huge, powerful magnet to my dogs collar and sent him out to pace the back yard. After about 10 minutes his head was pulled to the ground with such force it almost knocked him out and the magnetic signature was so strong he couldn't free himself, he was stuck. Looks like a huge pipe to me! Here there be kimberlite!
quote:Originally posted by Upside: originally posted by dwman: Just might have to take you up on that as I'm converging on a new back yard drill site. Using the latest magnetic resonating technology, I tied a huge, powerful magnet to my dogs collar and sent him out to pace the back yard. After about 10 minutes his head was pulled to the ground with such force it almost knocked him out and the magnetic signature was so strong he couldn't free himself, he was stuck. Looks like a huge pipe to me! Here there be kimberlite!
Hey Upside, why don't you consider naming your new find CAROLYN PIPE #2. Just cause her husband is giving us a royal screwing doesn't mean we loose respect for his wife. Steve
quote:Originally posted by tradingpennys: The past couple days I have been talking to a class action attny about another stock I had seen on the class action list. I mentioned to this attny about CMKX and how I lost BIG time $ as with many others. I also stated that if there is a class action against them that I would love to be lead plantif. And that if anyone were to look at the canadian court records about urban and his manipulating past they may find some dirt. The attny responded that they are going to look into it and thanked me for the tip. Hopefully we can get back some cash!!
Tradingpennys, you might also ask him what the ramifications of a counter suit may be to you and your class.
And remember that if you separate yourself out as a minority "class" and take actions that hinder or impede the rest of the shareholders from benefiting from their ownership rights, you may invite yet another counter suit from the "longs" as well. All IMO
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If you haven't decided to file suit yet, or jump from a skyscraper, or "chew off your own leg" to get out of this steel trap; maybe you would like to take a look at what CMKX owns.
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You're right legal, they might own claims to a lot of the land but just like my back yard, there's nothing there. Take a look at the kimberlite cluster path, that's where everyone is concentrated, not miles away where there's probably just dirt. Another thing, the map that you linked is straight from CMKX, it's their promotional map that they give away at the races. On the official map located here, http://www.explorationgis.com/pa_falc_claims.html you can see that as usual there is no mention of CMKX. The claims that CMKX says they own are listed with a number for the claim holder.
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: You're right legal, they might own claims to a lot of the land but just like my back yard, there's nothing there. Take a look at the kimberlite cluster path, that's where everyone is concentrated, not miles away where there's probably just dirt. Another thing, the map that you linked is straight from CMKX, it's their promotional map that they give away at the races. On the official map located here, http://www.explorationgis.com/pa_falc_claims.html you can see that as usual there is no mention of CMKX. The claims that CMKX says they own are listed with a number for the claim holder.
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Hey Upside, I just had a teriffic idea. Why don't you go public with your back yard. Put it on the pink sheets, no reports, damn few entries of anykind. Inflate the O/S and sit back and watch the money roll in. BTW, I will be available the first of the year if you need a vice president of any of your divisions. Steve
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Not a bad idea Steve. The only problem is Wisconsin is a regulated state so we'd have to redomicile my back yard to Nevada so we could sell a trillion shares or so.
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Candle Lake sure catches my eye on that map,the way it's shaped.
Upside wrote:Take a look at the kimberlite cluster path, that's where everyone is concentrated, not miles away where there's probably just dirt.
To me that cluster path seems to be pointing right to Candle Lake.CMKXs' claim numbers surounds it along with Navada Minerals it looks like.
Reminds me of the story of Chuck Fipke and how he discovered diamonds in the Canadian arctic.He found his diamonds by staying upside of the glacier movment of where DeBeers was located.
quote:Originally posted by Upside: [B] On the official map located here, http://www.explorationgis.com/pa_falc_claims.html you can see that as usual there is no mention of CMKX. The claims that CMKX says they own are listed with a number for the claim holder. [B]
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: You're right legal, they might own claims to a lot of the land but just like my back yard, there's nothing there. Take a look at the kimberlite cluster path, that's where everyone is concentrated, not miles away where there's probably just dirt. Another thing, the map that you linked is straight from CMKX, it's their promotional map that they give away at the races. On the official map located here, http://www.explorationgis.com/pa_falc_claims.html you can see that as usual there is no mention of CMKX. The claims that CMKX says they own are listed with a number for the claim holder.
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Upside the "kimberlite cluster path" that you reference was established from reports by the mining companies. We have not reported on anything other than one sample at Carolyn Pipe. Are you trying to say that the only "pipes" or clusters are just the ones indicated?
I don't think we yet know where all of the "trunks" are located. Those clusters could just be the "branches" of the pipe, with the trunk located right in the middle of CMKX claims. We won't know until our exploration is completed.
As to the maps, "maps are maps". I don't see any major differences between the Sask maps and the company map.
As to whom the claims belong, the use of a number or the name of a company is irrelevant. What is important is the name Emerson Koch.
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Entity No: 101047025
Entity Name: 101047025 SASKATCHEWAN LTD. As of: 15-Nov-2004
"On the other hand, we were able to learn some information about Casavant International Mining from Nevada’s corporate records. Those files reveal that Casavant International Mining Corporation was formed in January 2003, and that its President is Urban Casavant. Those records also indicate that the corporate secretary is Carolyn Casavant and the treasurer is Emmerson Koch." http://www.stockpatrol.com/article/key/u_cmkm3
quote:On the other hand, we were able to learn some information about Casavant International Mining from Nevada’s corporate records. Those files reveal that Casavant International Mining Corporation was formed in January 2003, and that its President is Urban Casavant. Those records also indicate that the corporate secretary is Carolyn Casavant and the treasurer is Emmerson Koch."
Here's a link to CIMs current list of officers. No Emmerson Koch. Type in "Casavant" then click the middle selection (CIM) then click on "view selection. http://sos.state.nv.us/corpsrch.asp
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Also, judging from your post it appears that Mr. Koch, under the name of Saskatchewan Ltd., owns all of the claims that CMKX claims to hold. #101047025 on the exploration map corresponds to all of the claims on the CMKX map. Even if he is an officer of one of the CMKX companies (and I can't see that he is) how is this good for us?
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