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quote:
Originally posted by dwman:
PRD
I just went to Freetrade website and it says you can open an account now but to activate it, you have to deposit $5000. How did you get in for no minimum?


I am sorry made a mistake. I was in a hurry when I typed that up. It is Lowtrades.

No minimun and $5.00 per trades.


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PRDponce -Mytradz.com $200 minimum and they will let you buy 2 million shares at a time with an $8 commission. I use it all the time for my friends and families accounts. Good customer service. You cannot buy all pinks there but CMKX no problem.

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Hi Everyone- I am still working on my 2003 taxes and it is getting to crunch time (August 15 extension deadline. I am marking to market on this filing and next year should be a lot easier. What a mess this schedule D is. The NY phone book is the same thickness. What is the IRS thinking with this baloney? GLTA-IMO-DD-Debi


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NOAH
That would explain tesing for "other" things
VAN
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I'm coming to a place where "sitting on a Gold mine" may not apply anymore.

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I've never seen my whole portfolio green, EVEr, except today. It looks cool!

Is anyone here still picking up more shares in the days to come? Thinking about another 5M shares to put me near 23M...


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some interesting speculation

By: rbitulsa
05 Aug 2004, 01:17 PM EDT
Msg. 59334 of 59388
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The significance of TDEM

Time-Domain ElectroMagnetic mapping.

If you don't currently understand the significance of this technology, I suggest you do some research on it.

Urban wasn't overstating the significance when we said "For the first time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company."

Prior to today's release, it had not been disclosed that the CMKX survey included TDEM (time-domain eletromagnet) technology. A TDEM survey combines magnetic survey data with satellite GPS technology to identify the spatial location of each target, including the depth and mass of the individual targets. Generally speaking, the most significant advantages of a TDEM survey are that

1) every "target deposit" detected displays it's own unique and identifiable signature within the data,

2) TDEM technology allows signature mapping to depths unavailable with any other type of technology,

3) "real" 3-D maps can be generated to precisely identify the exact location of minerals, the exact concentration (mass) of minerals, and the shape and size (underground) of the mineral targets (as opposed to taking 2-D mapping and simulating what the 3-D shaping MIGHT look like), and

4) most "noise" is very accurately eliminated.

As an example of just how precise this technology is, the military has used this technology to detect buried unexploded ordinance. It is precise enough to not only detect the electromagnetic signature of buried 250-lb bombs IN A RAILYARD (filled with scrap metal and other "noise"), it can also detect the bomb fragments. John Adams, president of USA Environmental, the company hired to detect the bombs and fragments at the railyard, said "it was like finding rocks randomly scattered on a sandy beach...they could’ve been rocks but you knew what they were...[using] equipment few would have dreamed about. To me, that’s pretty cosmic."

What this means is that CMKX and it's partners know EXACTLY what minerals exist on their claims. They know where every kimberlite deposit lies, what type of kimberlite it is, it's size, and it's depth. They also know the precise location and concentration of every other type of precious mineral, metal deposit, and economic resource on their claims.

CMKX is not the first company to use such advanced technology (TDEM). It's been used in conjunction with siesmic technology to map volcanic and magmatic deposits as deep as 17 kilometers. And it's been used to detect and identify kimberlite deposits and other minerals all over the world. However, only within the last two years has the TDEM technology advanced to the point where "real" 3D is obtainable, and where most all noise can be filtered out. And never before has this technology been used on the land held by CMKX and it's JV's.

What does all this mean to me?

The PR about the survey announced "hundreds of magnetic anomalies", yet only announced "several obvious drill targets". It makes one wonder why they chose to exclude the word "kimberlite" entirely from their release. Now the following is pure speculation on my part, but there are two scenarios worth considering.

First, the "several obvious drill targets", in my opinion, are likely the 'crater facies' type kimberlite deposits that were discovered on the claims. I suggest you read up on crater facies. Crater facies kimberlite pipes are not only the largest pipes, but the bulk of crater facies kimberlite is located at the top of the pipe. Think of a crater facies pipe as an oversided martini glass, and other types of pipes as small champagne glasses. More kimberlite closer to the surface, with a higher concentration of diamonds in the overburden. Crater facies pipes contain more diamonds, on average, and they are easier to open-pit mine, than other types of pipes.

Second, it is likely the reason that the word "kimberlite" was excluded from the survey release because many of the anomalies are likely minerals/metals/resources other than kimberlite. You might research the known economic minerals found in Saskatchewan, but a few worth mentioning include uranium, gold, zinc, salt, sodium sulfate, calcium chloride, and clays, not to mention oil and natural gas. Keep in mind that Saskatchewan currently produces 32% of the world's uranium.

And I would mention that two uranium companies working together, surveying for uranium, were actually the first to discover kimberlite in the FALC, in 1988. Also, 2004 worldwide demand for uranium is now 171.6 million pounds per year, while 2004 primary world production will only be 92.1 million pounds. And the price of uranium has gone from $10 per pound to over $18 per pound in the last two years.

I think everyone is already aware of what's happening with the demand for, and price of, oil and natural gas. And gold is a great wildcard here, as well.

Again, I think it's very hard to overstate the real value of the TDEM survey data. With this type of technology, it's no longer neccessary that you have to physically pull an economic resource out of the ground, in order to confirm it's existence, and it's density.

In my opinion, data of such high quality would allow you to sell mineral rights at or close to the pricing of "proven land", without having to expend the time and costs required to "prove" the land, except for the cost of the survey.

Obviously, however, for diamonds, you'd still have to prove the quantity and quality, although you've got a head start by accurately identifying the choice kimberlite to target.

I could go on for hours, but obviously I believe the location of the claims, along with the TDEM data is the biggest proof of the existence of real value in this stock to date. When will the market adjust to this reality? I'll leave that for others to debate...

JMO


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unless there is something funny going on with the otc & pink sheet posting of the ucad dividend i don't think we will see .0006 before the end of aug. and i'm sure hoping the 2 other dividends are not restricted shares. i haven't seen anything here on it and can't find anything on the sec site. with a 483 billion o/s any covering of naked shares if there are naked shares will be done without much increase in the pps. the only dramatic increase in the pps without some kind of deal from UC & ucad will be if a diamond gets stuck in the core drilling machine or a huge decrease in o/s without a r/s. of course this is just my opinion and i'm only talking about a near future increase...long term i believe cmkx will do great but somehow this o/s if it holds true has got to be cut to less then 10 billion and thats a 48/1 r/s and a .0192 pps but from that point any good test results or more mining company deals will drive the pps up a great deal. sorry but IMO they'd have to find the hope diamond's 10 twins in a core sample to move the pps up to .0192 with a 483 billion o/s...microsoft has less then 11 billion o/s ppl with 50 million or more shares probably will become millionaires from the stock but those of us like myself with a few million shares will probably make a very nice return but millionaires i think is out of the question so heres to hoping that otc post was wrong!!!...lol
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quote:
Originally posted by VNGNTN1:
[B]Just picked up another 8.5m "TO BE SAFE"

I wish I could do that!


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I'm with you on that one bill.
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Bill,
I pretty much agree with your post. I've said this before but if that o/s number turns out to be true, I think a reverse split will actually be viewed as a positive. 99 out of 100 companies tank after a reverse but I believe CMKX could be that one that actually does good. We're going to have to face it that with 483 billion shares outstanding, this company has no hope (short of a miracle) of going much of anywhere. Using your figures of a 1 for 48 reverse wouldn't be that bad either, certainly not as bad as some we've seen recently. If they do it though, they had better reverse the authorized as well. If not, that could spell real trouble.

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BamBam 17,
Could you please post the new maps again.
Your latest post was taken from the thread or I can't find it one.
There is talk of "northwest" of the Kimberlite.
I believe a kimberlite causing glacier would have been moving southeast by the gash (lake) on some of the maps I've seen.
Time and presser.Kind of like CMKX.

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has anyone found out if the gemm shares are restricted? i've looked for filings at the sec site but cant find any. i dont think you can restrict cim shares as they aren't being traded
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quote:
Originally posted by Upside:
We're going to have to face it that with 483 billion shares outstanding, this company has no hope (short of a miracle) of going much of anywhere.

Upside, how do you define a miracle? A diamond mine? All it takes is to find one average mine on our 1.9 million square miles and our PPS, even with 483 b O/S, will be in the pennies. If you don't believe in CMKX finding any diamonds, which is not much of a miracle at all, you better put that dunce cap back on and sell your shares right now!

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The significance of TDEM

Time-Domain ElectroMagnetic mapping.

If you don't currently understand the significance of this technology, I suggest you do some research on it.

Urban wasn't overstating the significance when we said "For the first time in the history of diamond exploration in the Fort a' la Corne area, a complete and comprehensive magnetic picture of the whole area is available to the company."

Prior to today's release, it had not been disclosed that the CMKX survey included TDEM (time-domain eletromagnet) technology. A TDEM survey combines magnetic survey data with satellite GPS technology to identify the spatial location of each target, including the depth and mass of the individual targets. Generally speaking, the most significant advantages of a TDEM survey are that 1) every "target deposit" detected displays it's own unique and identifiable signature within the data, 2) TDEM technology allows signature mapping to depths unavailable with any other type of technology, 3) "real" 3-D maps can be generated to precisely identify the exact location of minerals, the exact concentration (mass) of minerals, and the shape and size (underground) of the mineral targets (as opposed to taking 2-D mapping and simulating what the 3-D shaping MIGHT look like), and 4) most "noise" is very accurately eliminated.

As an example of just how precise this technology is, the military has used this technology to detect buried unexploded ordinance. It is precise enough to not only detect the electromagnetic signature of buried 250-lb bombs IN A RAILYARD (filled with scrap metal and other "noise"), it can also detect the bomb fragments. John Adams, president of USA Environmental, the company hired to detect the bombs and fragments at the railyard, said "it was like finding rocks randomly scattered on a sandy beach...they could’ve been rocks but you knew what they were...[using] equipment few would have dreamed about. To me, that’s pretty cosmic."

What this means is that CMKX and it's partners know EXACTLY what minerals exist on their claims. They know where every kimberlite deposit lies, what type of kimberlite it is, it's size, and it's depth. They also know the precise location and concentration of every other type of precious mineral, metal deposit, and economic resource on their claims.

CMKX is not the first company to use such advanced technology (TDEM). It's been used in conjunction with siesmic technology to map volcanic and magmatic deposits as deep as 17 kilometers. And it's been used to detect and identify kimberlite deposits and other minerals all over the world. However, only within the last two years has the TDEM technology advanced to the point where "real" 3D is obtainable, and where most all noise can be filtered out. And never before has this technology been used on the land held by CMKX and it's JV's.

What does all this mean to me?
The PR about the survey announced "hundreds of magnetic anomalies", yet only announced "several obvious drill targets". It makes one wonder why they chose to exclude the word "kimberlite" entirely from their release. Now the following is pure speculation on my part, but there are two scenarios worth considering. First, the "several obvious drill targets", in my opinion, are likely the 'crater facies' type kimberlite deposits that were discovered on the claims. I suggest you read up on crater facies. Crater facies kimberlite pipes are not only the largest pipes, but the bulk of crater facies kimberlite is located at the top of the pipe. Think of a crater facies pipe as an oversided martini glass, and other types of pipes as small champagne glasses. More kimberlite closer to the surface, with a higher concentration of diamonds in the overburden. Crater facies pipes contain more diamonds, on average, and they are easier to open-pit mine, than other types of pipes. Second, it is likely the reason that the word "kimberlite" was excluded from the survey release because many of the anomalies are likely minerals/metals/resources other than kimberlite. You might research the known economic minerals found in Saskatchewan, but a few worth mentioning include uranium, gold, zinc, salt, sodium sulfate, calcium chloride, and clays, not to mention oil and natural gas. Keep in mind that Saskatchewan currently produces 32% of the world's uranium. And I would mention that two uranium companies working together, surveying for uranium, were actually the first to discover kimberlite in the FALC, in 1988. Also, 2004 worldwide demand for uranium is now 171.6 million pounds per year, while 2004 primary world production will only be 92.1 million pounds. And the price of uranium has gone from $10 per pound to over $18 per pound in the last two years. I think everyone is already aware of what's happening with the demand for, and price of, oil and natural gas. And gold is a great wildcard here, as well.

Again, I think it's very hard to overstate the real value of the TDEM survey data. With this type of technology, it's no longer neccessary that you have to physically pull an economic resource out of the ground, in order to confirm it's existence, and it's density. In my opinion, data of such high quality would allow you to sell mineral rights at or close to the pricing of "proven land", without having to expend the time and costs required to "prove" the land, except for the cost of the survey. Obviously, however, for diamonds, you'd still have to prove the quantity and quality, although you've got a head start by accurately identifying the choice kimberlite to target.

I could go on for hours, but obviously I believe the location of the claims, along with the TDEM data is the biggest proof of the existence of real value in this stock to date. When will the market adjust to this reality? I'll leave that for others to debate...

JMO



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Hello all,

I have been chewing over the magnetic survey too. As well as the OS.

1. With the quality of the survey it is only a matter of time, perhaps days or weeks to confirm what we have physically.


2. The OS numbers seem high and I still think there are several scenarios where the shareholder part could be less than 100 billion.

Instead I want to focus on 500 - 483 = 17 billion left available to buy. At current buy ratios this would be completely eaten up within 3 weeks.

That means, within 3 weeks, if someone wants a share they have to buy it from us. Within 3 weeks this stack, if the 483 bill is true, will have no where to go but up.


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originally posted by Money_Penny:
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Upside, how do you define a miracle? A diamond mine? All it takes is to find one average mine on our 1.9 million square miles and our PPS, even with 483 b O/S, will be in the pennies. If you don't believe in CMKX finding any diamonds, which is not much of a miracle at all, you better put that dunce cap back on and sell your shares right now!

By miracle I'm talking about a diamond like never seen before. The Grand Poo-Bah of all diamonds. Even that will cause a spike in the price that is not sustainable. If your looking at this company actually becoming a full fledged mining company, you really are in this long, like 10 years plus before a mine could actually be built and start producing. Even then, lets say it happens and they are successful and somewhere down the road they're mining and actually churning out profits of a million dollars a year, not revenues, profits. Look at it from a p/e standpoint. At a million profit and (rounded up) 500 billion o/s, they earn .000002 per share. Assign them a high p/e multiple of 100 and those earnings can support a pps of .0002. That's why I say a miracle. With this many shares outstanding they are going to have to be churning out profits in excess of a billion dollars a year to see .20 per share. To put it into perspective, I read somewhere that there is enough CMKX stock outstanding right now to give every person on the face of the earth about 75 shares. Those are figures of epic proportions.


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75 shares for each person - not bad. May be I should be selling my shares on Ebay: $75 per 75 shares. I think I can find few who will buy my specially discounted package. lol
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Upman,
10 years is a guess you came up with?
NSDM has accomplished alot in one year.
Without all the co. to co. assistance.

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I don't know how anyone can just sweep the issue of O/S under the rug, and not be concerend about it. There isn't enough time in a trading day to trade enough shares to have an impact on supply at 200B+, not alone 400B shares.
The accounting of shares was to be done before the T/A fiasco, when was that, mid, end of June? Again though, it is part of the strategic plan to not disclose this information to the shareholders. Some say it isn't published because it is part of the "master plan", and for the plan to be achieved it can't be disclosed yet. I will like to see the impact on shareholder's loyalty if 400B was accuarate, maybe that's why it isn't being disclosed ???

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more dreams... I saw on another board.
By his calculations I "will be" worth
over $140 Million - I didn't even know
it...

Coreton Posted here 08.03.04

The question is, what is going to happen to our shares of CMKX, and what effects will the dividends and possible mergers have on them. First of all you must understand that we can substitute UCAD for CIM in this theory when we get to the Merger part..

Now we are getting a dividend of CIM sometime between August 31st and a "Later date". For the sake of this post we will use August 31st as the record date and the Distribution date (just like the GEMM dividend). Also we’ll assume that we are getting a 1 for 1 dividend of CIM for our CMKX shares. So on August 31 we will have 1 million CMKX shares and 1 million shares of CIM.

Now we have been told in a PR that CIM is going to go Public. I think that once this happens that we’ll see CIM offer a buyout/share swap for CMKX shares. We will use a ratio of 1 share of CIM for 1000 shares of CMKX. So now you will have 1,001,000 shares of CIM and NO shares of CMKX.

Based on the fact that so much has been put into promoting the CMKX ticker on the NHRA and ASA, I believe that CMKX will be reissued as a new company called “CMKXtreme Racing” (CMKX.PK).

I think that the New shares of CMKXtreme Racing (CMKX) shares will be issued as a dividend to CIM share holders… let’s say 1 share of CMKX for 100 shares of CIM. So you will now have 1,001,000 shares of CIM and 10,010 shares of CMKXtreme racing shares (CMKX).

Now then what can the value be???

First lets set some assumptions here.

The 1-1 CIM/CMI to CMKX dividend means that there are 40billion shares of both so our public float will be 40 billion in both CMKX and CIM.

CIM will be going public (as per PR) IPO.

Mining companies trade at 10 to 50x their value.

After the Buyout and Dividend to CMKX there will be 40,040,000,000 (40billion 40million) shares of CIM that are in the public float already. So another 5 billion or more will need to be added for the IPO. That would give us 45,040,000,000 We will use 50 billion to keep the math simple.

Now we have to decide what it will be worth at some point in time. I like to use a target price for the IPO of $20.00 per share and use the minimum of 10x value for the PPS so ($20.00/10) this will mean we need $2.00 in value per share of CIM or claims valued at $100billion.

With De Beers, Kensington, and Shore Gold right next door and De Beers claims being valued at $40 to $80 billion By Dr. Mark Hutchenson in Feb 2003 (this claim is a about 60,000 acres) we now have 1.9 million or more in the FALC… so I do not think it is too much of a stretch to say we will at some point have a value assessed of well over $100 Billion. I believe that this assessment will be done prior to the IPO and I believe that the IPO will be done by the end of this year.

So Lets do a little math… If you had 1 million shares of CMKX on August 31st and held them till fruition you would have 1,001,000 CIM shares valued at $20.00 or 1,001,000 x $20.00 = $20,020,000 for your 1 million shares.

I am not saying when we will realize this price… I’m saying that it is highly probable in the next 5 years. I choose to believe that this whole thing was started 3 years ago so in the next 2 years it is IMO Highly probable for this to happen.

Now for the New CMKX shares… I have no idea, I have not researched racing companies or know if any of them are traded or not but at this point who cares.. :> )

This post is all based on assumptions as I see them. This is my theory on what I think COULD happen. Read it and enjoy it, and if you have constructive criticism of it that’s fine, let me know. I will NOT argue any of these points with anybody… this is my OPINION ONLY!!

GLTA

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Will,
The o/s is still to be deterMINED.

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originally posted by highwaychild:
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Upman,
10 years is a guess you came up with?
NSDM has accomplished alot in one year.
Without all the co. to co. assistance.

Highway,
Only a small part of it was a guess. From basic exploration, which is where CMKX is, to building a full blown mine, the time frame is 7 - 8 years. I threw another 2 - 3 in there for them to actually start profiting from the mining process.


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Yep,Thanks Shadow.
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NO! O/S have yet to be reported. Taking the company at it's word, through an official PR one can conclude it is known, but not published.
Now, what could be the reason(s) for not publishing the O/S.
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Originally posted by highwaychild:
Will,
The o/s is still to be deterMINED.


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Upman,
NSDM's last pr looks to produce profits in Sept. after only reporting diamondiferous findings in less then a year.

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Will,
H3ll ,I don't know.
All logic goes out the window on this one in my book too.
Not many,if any co.'s I have found, has ever seen anything like this.The good, and the you know.

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tic,
LOL. I started reading that crapola and laughed at the first set of assumptions, August 31, and 1 for 1 dividend. I was going to comment on it, but I didn't want everyone to beat me up. LOL
Pretty soon you'll see crap about Martians watching over the situation, and because Urban is such a humanitarian they decided to help him. The speculation will be that diamonds are common building material on Mars and mean little to the Martians, and they see Urban as "The Father of All that is Good", and will salt his targets with huge diamonds. LOL When people are trying to protect investments of $10K+ they can come up with some weird sh|t, man.
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who the f$$k is this coreton character. is it sterling on crack? what an absolute crock.


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Highway,

would you mind editing your post and deleting the map? - I don't feel like scrolling to the right all night long. Thanks.


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quote:
Originally posted by Money_Penny:
I wish I could do that!

YES and I am feeling much better about this deal.
I created a database that logs in all PR's by company and tracks the dividends,options, etc.
Then place anothe rlimit order for 10m @.0002
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Van, seriously, you are not that concerned about the O/S? If you're not, why aren't you?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Money_Penny:
[b] I wish I could do that!


YES and I am feeling much better about this deal.
I created a database that logs in all PR's by company and tracks the dividends,options, etc.
Then place anothe rlimit order for 10m @.0002
VAN

[/B][/QUOTE]


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Post from another board:

Seriously Melvin has to go..

Melvin doesn't know what he's sayin...
« Thread started on: Today at 4:59pm »
Melvin is on paltalk saying that once you get the claims you only have them for 2 years. I was talking to Ron at the races; he said you have the claim for 3 years, and once you work on them you have them for an additional 3 years. People that were standing around me can verify this. Melvin constantly contradicts himself. Before he was saying if we renew them by doing work on them that we have them for 12 years. It's hard to trust him with anything he says. I'm not bashing Melvin, I just think he should stay off Paltalk, as he is constantly contradicting his own words.


he also stated that all paperwork was complete for drilling, then later says that there are still 2 more forms. What the ?

The problem is we are not getting calming stuff from Melvin. Mt St Helens and the "spaceship is on the launchpad" are not calming stuff. He contradicts himself on several occasions causing even more rumors in an already rumor-filled stock.
That is about what Melvin said he did. He said the 6000 shareholders number he just pulled out of thin air.

As much as many of us like Melvin, he is out of the information loop and most cannot see that. I hope it doesn't backfire on us.


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WILL
I am upin" the ante; Thinkin' as if I was UC.
By this time would have repurchase ALL O/S and announced periodically I was retiring shares. Would continue to then purchase naked shares say 300-500m @.0002-3, then I would hire an attorney to help me organize my plan. I would then begin to begin making deals with friends in the business trading shares and options for claims and cash. I would then tell the attorney that only 1-10 shares of stock were O/S and declare a $1m dividend. of course I would also know who owns those 1-10 shares. At this point I go private and let the MM figure out how to cover the share & dividend.
OK that's just me.
VAN

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Anything is possible, Van. Hope you got it figured right.

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quote:
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Will,
The o/s is still to be deterMINED.


WHAT THE HE$$ is a deter mine
VAN


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The Green Baron Report Thursday, August 5, 2004

http://www.thegreenbaron.com/Latest%20Update.htm

May God Bless All.


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