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Originally posted by penguinking:
the bid is .0059 that is what you can sell it for

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Who cares. Good God you guys. Get a grip.

Bob

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Originally posted by gorforit72545:
Who cares. Good God you guys. Get a grip.

Bob

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Originally posted by 1BigTip:
Julu 6, 2004 UPDATE 10 sec(est.)

Thank you for calling the Q Television Network Hotline.

We'll have another update for you very soon so please stay tuned.

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this stock looks like the Titanic. i wont hold on to somethign like that.

hope you can hold your breath.

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
Am I crazy or the only sane one here? Not worried.

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look at the last failed attempt no one came out and said that they failed. th eprice just plumitted to the bottom. much like what is happening now.

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
This is gay television folks. U don't say a word until everything is in place or otherwise, the sane population will try and stop the companies from airing it. That is one reason we are low key. I believe the deals are happening and then pps is .10

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Originally posted by gorforit72545:
Who cares. Good God you guys. Get a grip.

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Umm .. did you forget that *you* are the one who asked the question as to what it meant? Or did you forget to log off one account?

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
My gut says we have carriers. NO reason to think Frank would lie. I do not see them failing

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Originally posted by sharkus:
Did they not mention it on the hotline a few months back? I believe it was that day when they changed the message a few times. Too many people upset with the number os o/s shares or something?

I'm sure someone remembers....hmm was it when the hotline started? Too bad they do not put it in writing on the website....but that might mean they would have to stick to what they said.

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im glad i stoped listening and started thinking

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
End of the week we can talk about the pps. Its buying and daytrading day

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Originally posted by emunahstock:
This is gay television folks. U don't say a word until everything is in place or otherwise, the sane population will try and stop the companies from airing it. That is one reason we are low key. I believe the deals are happening and then pps is .10

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Exactly why I am holding and not listening to the weak at heart. If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.....
Maybe it won't make it but if not it won't be because my knees got weak. It's a pinky for heavens sake. If one should never buy a stock on advice from a message board, why in the world would one sell it because a bunch of new name posters get on here, try to sound like knowledgable stock traders, and trash it. Hell, if it don't make it, WTF......go buy something else. No one here is in it for the investment anyway....just the easy, overnight money. Some of us just need to sinch up the trousers and just hang on. If you bought a few mil at .000? but could not afford to loose that money you should have bought a couple of shares of "Big Blue" and sat around in your BVD's and watched it for a few years.
Hope for the best for all but don't have much patence with wobbley kneed loosers who crack under no PR or for any good reason. No bad news, no good news, hell, no news at all and all these new posters are jumping ship.
Dakota tells em "bu-bye". Hang in Frank and we of great faith are hanging in for the moon or the ocean bottom.....it's a choice.
Dakota told you that......

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Originally posted by penny-trader:
i have been hearing this since May15th

im glad i stoped listening and started thinking

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Originally posted by kguts11:
They said "about 9 Billion" but that they were in the process of retiring shares and getting an accurate share count once the retirement was complete. They changed the message about half way through the day and the people who didn't hear it said that all of the people who did were full of BS and brand new posters. I heard it and I think I had been posting for almost a year at the time.

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First of all they said they had plans of retiring shares... they did not say that they were doing it... they can say that they want to every day from here to eternity... it does not mean a thing... with a company like this on this board...meaning pink sheets, there is no law governing them to actually do the buy back.... I would take that for what it is worth... unfortunately it is worth nothing... at least not until they plan on doing it... so as far as the buyback goes I would not buy into this thinking they are doing a buyback... that most likely wont happen for awhile... if it ever does... just another unfilled promise from the q team... one more strike against them in my book...

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Originally posted by bckibler:
I think that the fundamentals are still on track for Q. Some just don't have the patience to wait for the end result. This is not a normal pink. This one will be one of the rare ones. If you sold today, I guess that was a good decision for you. Now that you all have announced it to us, and in some cases, thanked the Lord that you are out, MOVE ON!! We know you are no longer QBID stockholders. No reason to be posting on this board any longer. Remember sellers, this is a work in progress and those who hold will be rewarded. BYE BYE. GO QBID!

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Originally posted by futuresobjective:
All I have to say is:
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I DON'T GET IT?????????????????????????????????

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sorry, I am just wishing I saw it that way... I am hear waiting for some kind of reason to buy back in... I just cant see it that way

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SEEING AND READING THIS ARTICLE AS CLEARLY AS I CAN. HUMMMMM

I THINK YOU ARE ALL CORRECT AND I HAVE BEEN A FOOL SINCE THIS STOCK WAS .0001 OVER 5 MONTHS AGO. THIS IS A DEFINITE SCAM. LOL FRANK HAD TO REALLY PULL PINK RABBITS OUT HIS A%$ TO GET LISTED HERE. LOL

SILLY OF ME TO SEE NO COMPETION WITH A PAY PER VIEW CHANNEL OR PREMIUM CHANNEL VS A GAY/LESBIAN NETWORK CHANNEL (EDUCATIONAL AND FAMILY ORIENTED).

NOW THAT THE TRIVIALITY OF THE GAY/LESBIAN MARKET NEED AND SPENDING POWER HAS BEEN SO INTELLECTUALLY BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION. I FEEL QUITE SILLY FOR EVER BUYING THIS STOCK.

I JUST WISH YOU ALL HAD CONVINCED ME A LOT SOONER. LOL MY TINY LITTLE PEA BRAIN THOUGHT THAT THIS MIGHT HAVE POTENTIAL. I SHALL BE SELLING ON THE EXCELLANT ADVICE AND DUE DILLIGENCE FROM EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD--ASAP.

NOT.............

P.S. I COULD KICK MYSELF IN THE A$$ FOR NOT PAYING MUCH ATTENTION---I COULD HAVE MADE A FORTUNE DAYTRADING THIS BEEEAAAAAACH. BUT NO..I MADE THE CHOICE TO HOLD. WELL--I HAVE RETURNED...PICKED UP SOME OF THEM THERE EXTREE SHARES OF THIS WORTHLESS QUEER SHIIIIT--AND I AM FIXEN TO MAKE UP FOR TIME LOST... WOOPS...I STAYED TO LONG IN ARKANSAS. LOL

STONED--IF YOU ARE STILL OUT THERE IN OKLAHOMA-----INSANITY IS A LIFESTYLE CHOICE AND POTENTIAL IS STILL PRICELESS. IMHO

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/articl...ndustry=Pr
ogramming&industryid=1026

The Final Frontier
6 steps to digital cable success

By Allison Romano -- Broadcasting & Cable, 5/3/2004

In this story:
1. Demonstrate a demand
2. Avoid the competition
3. Hire pros
4. Build a realistic model
5. Raise beaucoup bucks
6. Sweeten the deal

Sidebars:
Network Hopefuls

Call it cable's rite of spring. At the National Cable & Telecommunications Association's annual gathering, wannabe cable networks pitch—hard. But few will turn up on your cable listings. Hype is the easy part, says one cable vet: "Until you get funded, you are not a network." New channels typically need $100 million to $150 million to break even.

There was a time when operators needed networks to populate their digital packages. Not any more. "We're looking to leverage the relationships we already have," says Cox Vice President of Programming Bob Wilson.

Industry consultant Cathy Rasenberger, who specializes in startup networks, has heard an estimated 200 proposals in the past few years. The odds of their success are slim, she cautions prospective clients.

About a dozen recently launched channels are making it. Among them: G4, Fine Living, Sí TV, and sports diginets Fuel, CSTV, and Tennis Channel (see list at right). New networks associated with a big media company or distributor stand the best chance. Independents face an uphill climb.

National Cable Television Cooperative President and CEO Mike Pandzick says operators are focused on growing their businesses, not taking on more costs. "Most look at new networks and ask, How much it is going to cost me? How many new subs is it going to get me?"

Adds Pandzick, "That's why most new networks are almost dead in the water. There are so few interests that are not already being met."

But if you want to brave the odds, do it with Rasenberger's help. Here is B&C's tip sheet for starting a digital network.

1. Demonstrate a demand
Cable already offers a dizzying array of niche networks. There are channels for foodies, videogamers, and history buffs. Aspiring outlets must find something new—and prove that people want it.

Launching a channel "is about the hardest thing to do in the world," says Brad Siegel, formerly a Turner Entertainment executive and now vice chairman for startup Gospel Music Channel. "If you don't have a large, passionate fan base, it's a nonstarter."

You need to identify the target and then find data to back up your plan. For the Gospel Music Channel, Siegel and network founder Charles Humbard, a Discovery Networks vet, see a wide-open space. (BET offers some gospel programming, but only a few shows a week.) More important, Gospel Music Channel says this is a proven marketplace: 80 million people a week tune in to such programming. And 8% of all U.S. music sales are for gospel music. Jazz, in contrast, makes up 4% of sales.

2. Avoid the competition
"It can disturb or destroy your business if someone else is competing for distribution and programming," says Rasenberger. Operators and advertisers might say they want alternatives to big, established cable networks, but it's tough going up against major players.

Stand Up Comedy Television, another first-time exhibitor at this week's NCTA show, will offer a lot of standup specials. Remember, Comedy Central has carved out the standup turf; even HBO and Bravo do it. In the gaming space, Game Show Network (now called GSN) and G4 are already up. Two new channels: Casino & Gaming Television is still looking for carriage deals, while Edge TV is joining the fray (see page 32). The channel is eyeing an early-2005 launch and has enlisted the expertise of former ABC Family distribution exec John Burns III, distribution specialist Hot House Media, and talent agency Creative Artists Agency.

Consider diversity. The National Football League's channel is everything NFL, while The Football Network will offer the rest (college, high school, women's football). But do operators want two football-themed channels? Do viewers want all football all the time? Clearly, only the strong survive. So far, The NFL Network has major deals on DirecTV, Charter, and Insight. TFN has secured deals with MSOs Time Warner and NCTC. The NFL Network kicked off last November, but TFN has been plagued by financial problems and may not run till year's end.

3. Hire pros
TV people are good. Cable people are better. There is nothing like the personal touch. It helps open the right doors at Comcast and Time Warner. Take CSTV, for example. Co-founder Brian Bedol is a familiar face in the cable industry. He started Classic Sports, then sold it to ESPN. He's calling on many of the same cable operators pitching his new channel.

Most new channels recruit an industry vet in their executive ranks or on their boards. The reason is simple: Cable can be a frustrating business. "You need to be prepared for a marathon," says TFN chief Jerry Solomon, a former sports agent. "I've negotiated a lot of deals, but I've never seen deals take as long to materialize as [carriage deals]."

4. Build a realistic model
Cable can be a great business, thanks to the dual revenue streams from subscriber fees and ad sales. But that model doesn't apply to many new diginets. With programming costs soaring for existing services, operators don't want expensive new services. They might be willing to shell out a few pennies per subscriber, but not immediately. Maybe not ever.

And don't count on advertising as a stable revenue stream. Sure, a few advertisers will take a leap early. "Some ideas are so interesting, you can take a flyer on it" and make a small buy, says Doug Seay, senior vice president for Publicis & Hal Riney. An early investment can pay off. Buyers usually get in for a dirt-cheap CPM and try to grandfather the rate. If a channel grows, the gamble is a good one.

Most advertisers want to see Nielsen ratings first. Says Seay, "A lot of people won't buy on concept." With hard data, they see who is watching and when.

It's also wise to consider other revenue streams. Rasenberger is keen on concepts with merchandising extensions. She's handling distribution for lifestyle startup Wine Network, which plans to sell wine and travel packages as a way to intoxicate coffers.

5. Raise beaucoup bucks
To begin, you'll need about $5 million in hand. The initial funds go for research, programming, and a road show to woo potential investors, as well as cable and DBS operators. But seed money goes only so far. The building blocks of a channel—more research, acquiring programs, commissioning originals, launch fees—run into a lot of money. The benchmark is at least $100 million. If you plan a lot of originals or live events, kick it up.

Trouble is, venture-capital money is hard to get. And startups face a tough predicament: Cable operators often want to know there is funding before they'll seal a deal. Investors want to see distribution before committing. It takes time to finesse both ends. Budget for at least three years to launch. It could take six to eight years to break even. Some networks die out because they can't sustain the investment. Jokevision, intended to show jokes 24/7 and commercial-free, has put the brakes on development. Backers are devising a sustainable business model.

6. Sweeten the deal
Understand what the operators want and need. Many distributors are pushing specialty tiers like Hispanic and sports packages. That has helped CSTV and the Tennis Channel get carriage. Startup Spanish-language kids network Sorpresa is finding a home on Hispanic tiers.

Other enticements may help sway an operator. Proposed young-adult network XY.tv says it will share ad revenue with early distributors. A few channels, including Wine Network, would share revenue from merchandise sales. Many are offering high-definition and video-on-demand content.

High-tech boondoggles may also work. Take the Anime Network. The channel's parent company A.D. Vision Inc. already owns a vast library of anime programs that it produces and sells on DVD. Starting a cable channel seemed a logical extension. Except that operators pushed back. To prove Anime Network's worth, the channel started as a video-on-demand service. Big MSOs like Comcast, Time Warner, and Cablevision—all eager to push VOD—were hooked.

Going VOD first, says President Kevin Corcoran, "allows us to demonstrate there is a sufficient demand for a 24/7 channel." At least one operator agrees. Anime is expected to announce its first deal, with Insight Communications, this week at the National Show.

Rasenberger's best advice: "Find a model that is expense-neutral and revenue-positive for the operator."

Then you can tackle world peace.

Network Hopefuls
On their way
Anime Network: Japanese animation

CSTV: Broad swath of college-sports events, as well as news and information

Fox Sports Digital Networks: Three channels culled from Fox Sports regional networks' programming

Fuel: Fox Sports' action sports network

G4: Comcast-owned video-gaming network

GolTV: Soccer games and related shows in English and Spanish

Horseracing TV: Live races and related programming

NBATV: League-owned channel with NBA games, entertainment shows, news

NFL Network: League-owned channel with entertainment and news shows but no games

Reality TV: Non-scripted and documentary programming

Sí TV: English-language, Latino-themed programming

Sorpresa: Spanish-language kids programming

The Sportsman Channel: Hunting and fishing programming

The Tennis Channel: Tennis tourneys, news, and information

TV One: African-American-themed network

On the drawing board
America Channel: American-themed non-scripted programming

Casino & Gaming Television: Gaming lifestyle channel

Career Entertainment Television: Work and the workplace

Edge TV: Gaming-themed network, casino and recreational games

Gospel Music Channel: Music videos and related programming

Here! TV: Premium channel with gay- and lesbian-themed programming

Hype TV: Hip-hop music and lifestyles

The Ice Channel: Figure-skating events and instruction

ImaginAsian TV: Asian-American-themed shows, some English-language; carriage on some broadcast stations

The Martial Arts Channel: Movies, instruction, and entertainment

MavTV: Targeting men 18-54 with shows on sports, finance, technology, and xxx

The Q Television Network: Gay- and lesbian-themed series and movies

Reality Central: Rerun and original reality shows

Scream Channel: Horror and thriller movies and shows

Southern Entertainment Television: Gospel, folk, and bluegrass music

Stand Up Comedy Television: Standup specials, comedy series, and sketches

The Football Network: Football games (but not NFL) and highlight and instructional shows

Varsity Television: Non-scripted and drama fare for college-age viewers

Wheels TV: Automotive programming

Source: National Cable & Telecommunications Association, B&C
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Originally posted by bckibler:
Oh, OK. Wish I could give you some of my positive feelings about the Q. Good Luck!

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DOES IT NOT SEEM EXTREMELY ODD TO ANYONE ELSE THAT PEOPLE WOULD SPEND HOURS TYPING INTO A MESSAGE BOARD OR EVEN GOING TO A MESSAGE THREAD--UNLESS THEY OWN THE STOCK???

LOGIC ALONE TELLS ME THAT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT OWN THIS STOCK--WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A BARGAIN ELSEWHERE!!!

I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT I HAVE NEVER POSTED ON A THREAD OF A STOCK THAT I DID NOT OWN CURRENTLY OR HAD PREVIOUS HISTORY WITH (MIGHT OF POSTED A HEADS UP ON A STOCK ONCE OR TWICE IF I HAD PREVIOUS OWNED AND FOUND OUT UNDESIRABLE INFORMATION--(BUT ALL DAY LONG??) OR HAD VERY SERIOUS INTEREST IN BUYING IMMEDIATELY OR HAD A BID IN TO BUY. I FAIL TO SEE THE POINT TO THE "WASTE OF TIME" INVOLVED. LURKING TO CHECK OUT A STOCK IS ONE THING...BUT POSTING DAY AFTER DAY--HOUR AFTER HOUR---NOT OWNING THE STOCK.....I MUST APPLAUD ALL THAT DO....THAT TAKES SOME SERIOUS COMMITMENT.....

OR......MAYBE.......GET A GOOD VISUAL NOW (SALLY FIELD WAVING MAGIC TURKEY BASTER IN MID-AIR)..........THERE REALLY ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO INTENSLY HATE THE IDEA OF GAY/LESBIAN RIGHTS TO EQUALLY BE HEARD AND VIEWED...SO MUCH SO THAT THEY WOULD SPEND HOURS AND HOURS OF THEIR WORTHLESS TIME AND ENERGY MAKING SURE THAT DOES NOT HAPPEN...HUMMMMM

OF COURSE--I COULD NEVER UNDERSTAND PEOPLE PICKETTING ABORTION CLINICS FOR HOURS AND DAYS ON END...THE LOGIC DOES NOT COMPUTE...

BUT SALLY HERE--HAS DATED BLACK MEN...NOT JUST ONE EITHER. YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY...ONCE YA GO BLACK....DON'T TELL ANYONE PLEASE...I ADOPTED AN HISPANIC/BLACK, BEAUTIFUL, BRILLIANT, INCREDIABLE BOY AND RAISED HIM IN A ALL WHITE HOUSEHOLD--EQUALLY--JUST AS IF I HAD GIVEN BIRTH TO HIM MYSELF..
OH--THE FRIEND OF FIFTEEN YEARS, I WAS VISITING IN ARKANSAS IS GERMAN. LIKE
BORN AND RAISED IN GERMANY. I MUST SAY--I HAVE NEVER HAD A GAY FRIEND OR KNOWN A GAY/LESBIAN PERSONALLY. (I DON'T THINK TRYING TO PICK ME UP IN A BAR COUNTS.) LOL

IN THE FIVE MONTHS THAT I HAVE POSTED HERE--WE HAVE NEVER GOTTEN INTO THE PREJUDICES THAT EXISTS AND BREEDS AROUND US DAILY.

MIGHT BE AN INTERESTING TOPIC TO RESEARCH AND DISCUSS. HUMMMMM

I TOO CANNOT COMPREHEND WHY THEY WOULD SPEND HOURS ON A STOCK THREAD THEY DON'T OWN. I DON'T AND WOULDN'T, JUST MAKES NO SENSE. I MIGHT READ INTO IT BUT WOULD NOT POST OR WASTE MY TIME.

LAST OPTION WOULD BE THEY ARE TRUELY "FREAKS".

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DOES IT NOT SEEM EXTREMELY ODD TO ANYONE ELSE THAT PEOPLE WOULD SPEND HOURS TYPING INTO A MESSAGE BOARD OR EVEN GOING TO A MESSAGE THREAD--UNLESS THEY OWN THE STOCK???

OR......MAYBE...THERE REALLY ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO INTENSLY HATE THE IDEA OF GAY/LESBIAN RIGHTS TO EQUALLY BE HEARD AND VIEWED...

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There have been thousands of cases of “pump and dump” over the last few years. Guilty parties range from foreign investors and US citizens to Internet businesses and companies. The two most famous cases involved a man known as Tokyo Joe and a fifteen year-old boy.

In the first case, Tokyo Joe operated a web site in which he charged the subscribers $200 a month. He gave stock tips to his subscribers, but did not release the fact that he owned some of the stocks he recommended. Tokyo Joe would buy the stocks shortly before recommending them, wait for his members to buy the stock, and then sell after the price had risen significantly. The SEC did bring charges against him, and he admitted that his portfolio increased by 6400% in 1998.

Perhaps the most astonishing case of financial fraud on the Internet involved 15 year-old Jonathan Lebed, of Cedar Grove, New Jersey. In eleven separate instances from mid 1999 through early 2000, Lebed bought thinly traded microcap stocks, sent various false email messages (primarily to Yahoo! Finance message boards) under fictitious names, and then sold all of his shares. In total, Lebed had to repay $272, 826 in gains plus interest from a SEC ruling.

It's like when you've been with your lover for years but you still want to hear "I love you" just to reassure its still there & its true.

Finding QTV elsewhere besides hotline, website and portfolio is re-assuring!

Making $50k a year at a job in Stamford, CT is average. I dont care waiting 1 yr for QBID to get to .05, we just need to stay ontop of it.

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Originally posted by sonnydbar:
Won't take credit for this one, it was posted on that other board, that lately has been a lot more positive then the sh-t that has been on here. Anyway we are still on the client list that happens to also include a little Satellite company aka Direct TV. http://www.deveney.com/work/client_list.asp?id=14

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