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The SEC is abusing it's authority by litigating and not doing it's duty to properly regulate the OTC market.
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They used basher/comedians to help knock this stock down.

I have a wife and two kids that are going to be affected by this.

I feel totally abused


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I further believe that if all of the non-existent shares were to be purged from the system that all of the real shares in certificate form would increase in value, and all investors who have been faithful in our support of QBID would finally be $1.00.
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Is it any wonder why the average stock holder thinks that the Otcbb is controled by the mafia !!! The SEC has knowned for years that Naked Shorting is takeing place, and has done nothing to stop it !! How many nore companys has to be put out of business before our goverment will do something.. It has always been my understanding that the SEC is suppose to protect the stock holders and not the brokers, but in the case of Naked Shorting that just isn't happening.. You make law after law but never enforse them**!! Just do your job and let the invester do his with a fair playing field !!%%!!!!!!!!. I have sent atleast 4 complaint letters to the SEC and have NEVER HEARD ANYTHING BACK !!!! JUST DO YOUR JOB !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Whose side is the SEC on??? Glad they do not look after food and medical drugs. Then would be a lot of sick and dead people!
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It's sad to see that April 1st has come and gone, and yet we are still being forced to deal with this issue. Obviously, the SEC does not care about the people whom it is employed to serve and guard. Diana (Realtyinc) hit the nail on the head in her previous posts regarding April 1st.
I also feel that negative publicity does not bother shareholders of NITE: in fact, the more anger that they see focused against NITE, the more it proves that they are effective (immoral, yet effective) at stealing money away from others and giving it to themselves and their shareholders.
I also feel that NITE views hate-mail mailed to them as a joke which also serves to prove to them their own effectiveness. Maybe that would change if we could somehow expose to the public who these people are on an individual level- and let their neighbors and acquaintences know how much damage they are doing to the rest of us and the market in general, including their own neighbors.
Just my two cents.

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In my opinion the SEC is definitely NOT out to protect the small investor. Their inaction shows this to be true.

One item i read made mention of this issue of naked short selling is used to launder monies by suspicious groups like the Mafia and possibly terrorists.

If that is the case then the SEC is actively supporting those entities and should be investigated under the new anti-terrorist laws IN MY OPINION.


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The Market-maker manipulation is obvious, as they 'walk-down' these stocks. They don't fill orders at the 'ask', and only fill above the 'ask'. You can see where they quickly raise, then lower a stock-price by raising their 'bid' to sell, then lowering their 'ask' to buy back those duplicate shares just sold.
I'm sick of their games. The market-makers should NOT be manipulating stocks for their own profit. The market should be free to let the price go wherever supply/demand tells it.
I would HOPE that those in authority would have the wisdom to address this.
Thanks for your time,

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The SEC's failure to act in this matter can be considered
government sanactioned theft and fraud and must be stopped.
No one should be allowed to sell items of value they do not own without criminal charges. It is legalized theft.......GEORGE BUSH take notice.....

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WE should all band together and sue the SEC..get a good lawyer..

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There should be a class action law suit againt the SEC if there isn't one already.

I wish I had the ability to do that myself.


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Stop this illegal practice of short selling now on all bulletin board stocks-especially this one.
This is completely against the American ideals of making and losing money-all we can do is lose money due to this practice being allowed. It drives good companies broke-CEO'S who are trying to build a good honest business and which should be valued by the pps price for what its truly worth.

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quote:
Originally posted by BlindMellonChitlin:
There should be a class action law suit againt the SEC if there isn't one already.

I wish I had the ability to do that myself.


I wonder why some group like the ACLU hasn't jumped on this... I know this isn't exactly their type of case, but enough is enough...

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The investment firm "NITE" has been shorting CMKX to the tune of 3.6BIL shares per day. approximately 40% of their entire business. Scottrade will not process buys, only sells. makes us all wonder if they aren't involved as well..
it's time for the big investment firms (MM's) to stop their illegal activities and screwing the little guy

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Naked shorting has ruined CMKM business plan by taking the price per share to a ridiculous .0001. How? As Market Makers manipulated the price downwards each time the company needed funds they were forced to issue an increasingly number of shares to gather the funds they needed. Hence the stock diluted.
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well, if al-Qaeda is taking requests on new targets, let's hope they read this and go for NITE's headquarters
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Glad this topic came up because I hate when I put a bid in and an order goes through that is lower than my bid, or I try to sell and my ask gets bypassed for a higher ask.

In addition to that, the shorting is crazy. The OTC should be a free market driven by investors.

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The business of the MM's/brokerages is to make money....period. How they make it doesn't seem to matter to them.

It will take an 'Enron" type of meltdown to change things IMHO.


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You all realize of course that all our interest will be looked at as just whining and sour grapes because we lost money due to our own stupidity.

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quote:
Originally posted by BlindMellonChitlin:
You all realize of course that all our interest will be looked at as just whining and sour grapes because we lost money due to our own stupidity.


You are naive.......
Summary: According to a Press Release dated 6/21/02, the action charges that defendants violated federal securities laws by issuing a series of materially false and misleading statements to the market throughout the Class Period which statements had the effect of artificially inflating the market price of the Company's securities.

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INDUSTRY CLASSIFICATION:
SIC Code: 6211
Sector: Financial
Industry: Investment Services

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COMPANY/ISSUER NAME: Knight Trading Company, Inc.
COMPANY/ISSUER TICKER: NITE
COMPANY WEBSITE: http://www.knighttradinggroup.com/

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FIRST IDENTIFIED COMPLAINT IN THE DATABASE
Woods, et. al. v. Knight Trading Group, Inc., et. al.
COURT: D. New Jersey DOCKET NUMBER:
JUDGE NAME:
DATE FILED: 07/16/2002 SOURCE: Business Wires
CLASS PERIOD START: 02/29/2000 CLASS PERIOD END: 06/03/2002
TYPE OF COMPLAINT: Unamended/Unconsolidated
PLAINTIFF FIRMS IN THIS OR SIMILAR CASE:
Epstein, Fitzsimmons, Brown, Ringle, Gioia & Jacobs
245 Green Village Road - P.O. Box 901, Chatham, NJ, 07928
(voice) 973.593.4900, (fax) ,
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TOTAL NUMBER OF PLAINTIFF FIRMS: 1

DOCUMENTS FOR THE FIRST IDENTIFIED COMPLAINT
Class Action Complaint
Type: Complaint Date on the document: 06/16/2002


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I guess you don't get sarcasm.
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I'm not too familiar on how MM's work, but maybe if we all used a brokerage firm that trades direct, we could all bypass MM?

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Knight is always a step ahead of The SEC and two steps ahead of us....if the SEC only know how foolish they look to the average investors which is roughly about 70% of us......who's side are you on......the MM's......then you must be an employed basher because I don't know any investor or daytrader that is on the MM's side....
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Hey this is what QBID should dio ......it's not illegal......some private placement of shares......a division of Knight....hey the SEC will overlook it for a small fee


Thursday's press release revealed that NetSol International closed a private placement of 180,043 shares of stock with Deephaven Private Placement Trading, a division of Knight Trading Group (NASDAQ: NITE). The purchase price of the shares was $5.55. The shares are not free trading as of this time.


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The SEC's attitude towards this issue seems to be like in The Wizard of Oz......."Ignore the man behind the curtain."
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So, who is NITE? Here is a list of all names associated with NITE insider activity, to present, in descending chronological order (newest to oldest)

Thomas M Joyce Chief Executive Officer
John H Bluher General Counsel
Derek N Stein Officer
John B Howard Chief Financial Officer
Robert M Lazarowitz Directors
Lazarowitz family associate Affiliated person
Anthony M Sanfilippo Director
Robert Greifield
Robert I Turner Chief Financial Officer
Walter F Raquet Officer and Director
Gary R Griffith Director
Mark Lyons
Michael T Dorsey General Counsel
Steven Z Hajas Officer of Subsidiary Company
Scott M Littman Officer of Subsidiary Company
Nancy Shaw Indirect Shareholder
JP Morgan Whitefriars, Inc Shareholder
Kenneth D Pasternak Chief Executive Officer
Tarmachan Capital Mgmnt Chief Executive Officer
Gildor Trading Inc. Shareholder
Efrain and Catherine Gildor Foundation Shareholder
Gene L Finn Director
Ameritrade Holding Corp Chairman of the Board
Merrill Ferguson Shareholder
William Lewke Shareholder
Steinman Family Associates, LP Affiliated Person
Steven Steinman Director
Peter S Hajas Director
ETrade Group Inc Affiliated Person
Southwest Securities Shareholder
BHC Investments, Inc. Shareholder
Richard L Christensen Shareholder
Thomas E Burke Trust Shareholder
Rodney E Trautuetter Shareholder
MyDiscountBroker Shareholder
Robert H Lewis Shareholder
Jack Giakovitz Shareholder
H Gerard Bidwell Shareholder
Jack Eizikovitz Shareholder
J & B Gizikovitz Fund Shareholder
Yeshiva High School of Girls, Inc. Shareholder
Barbara J Shapiro Shareholder
Howard Shapiro Shareholder
Reliastar Financial Corp Shareholder
Eli Katz Shareholder
Howe Barnes Investments Inc Shareholder
Carol S Gardner Shareholder
Waterhouse Investor Services Inc Shareholder
David A Noyes Co Shareholder
Nancy Raquet Executive Vice President
Benjamin Lazarwitz Trust Affiliated Person
Michael Rersky Affiliated Person
William L Sabol Shareholder

Knight Trading Group Inc
525 Washington Boulevard 23rd Floor
Jersey City NEW JERSEY 07310

Since NITE is based in Jersey City, most of these people should live in or around New Jersey/New York/Connecticut- any advice for looking these people up?

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Dude don't do nothing stupid...
lol

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LOL- not a stupid person. It's just that exposing NITE itself doesn't seem to get anything accomplished, so I feel it is worth taking a minute to expose the people who are getting, and/or have gotten, rich off of our hard-earned money. IMO, NITE provides neither service nor product to anyone but their own, and therefore, bad publicity does little to dissuade their activities or to harm their PPS- IMO. On top of that, the latest SEC ruling has changed absolutely nothing, so it's time to change perspectives from one of faith, to one of exposure. IMO

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quote:
Originally posted by Zeker:
LOL- not a stupid person. It's just that exposing NITE itself doesn't seem to get anything accomplished, so I feel it is worth taking a minute to expose the people who are getting, and/or have gotten, rich off of our hard-earned money. IMO, NITE provdes neither service nor product to anyone but their own, and therefore bad publicity does little to dissuade their activities or to harm their PPS- IMO. On top of that, the latest SEC ruling has changed absolutely nothing, so it's time to change perspectives from one of faith, to one of exposure. IMO

OH that is a good idea.


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I just sent requests to my state senators to look into the 'naked short' issue. Probably a waste of time.

I want to start a big stink about this issue.

Any REAL advise might help me get started. How can I legally get under the SEC's skin? File a personal lawsuit...represent myself?


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Scope of the Securites and Exchange Act of 1934

The Securities Exchange Act of 1934 ("Exchange Act") was designed by Congress and has been updated over the past sixty years to deal with post issuance aspects of securities transactions and the regulation of the securities markets. It has been amended a number of times by the passage of the Maloney Act in 1938, Securities Acts Amendments of 1964, 1968 Williams Act, Securities Acts Amendments of 1975, 1978 Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, 1986 Government Securities Act, Securities Enforcement Remedies and Penny Stock Reform Act of 1990, Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, National Securities Markets Improvement Act of 1996, Securities Litigation Uniform Standards Act of 1998, and the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999, among others.

In Section 2, Congress specified the key reasons for the legislation. That Section states that in the national public interest the securities markets are to be regulated "in order to protect interstate commerce, the national credit, the Federal taxing power, to protect and make more effective the national banking system and Federal Reserve System, and to insure the maintenance of fair and honest markets in such transactions…" 15 U.S.C. § 78b.

The Exchange Act provides for the regulation of brokers, dealers, municipal and government securities dealers, national securities exchanges, over-the-counter markets, self-regulatory organizations, clearing agencies, transfer agents, and other securities market professionals. In regulating these industry professionals, the Exchange Act prohibits the manipulation of securities prices and the use of manipulative and deceptive devices in connection with the purchase or sale of certain types of securities. The Exchange Act also establishes both civil and criminal liability for those persons who make false or misleading statements with regard to disclosures required by the Exchange Act. With respect to these and other prohibited types of conduct, the Exchange Act sets forth an enforcement mechanism for imposing liability for such violations and prescribes the penalties for such misconduct.

The Exchange Act also imposes registration requirements for securities traded on exchanges and for non-exchange traded securities; mandates that specific annual and periodic reporting and record-keeping requirements be adhered to by publicly traded companies; and regulates, in the context of publicly traded companies, the solicitation of proxies, tender offers and other types of takeovers, and insider shortswing profits by officers, directors and principal stockholders.

Additionally, the Exchange Act authorizes the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System to establish rules and regulations regarding the amount of credit that may be extended and maintained to purchase securities. It also places restrictions on borrowing and lending by members of national securities exchanges, and on brokers or dealers who transact business in securities through any member.

Securities and Exchange Commission: Powers and Responsibilities

Through the enactment of the Exchange Act, Congress created the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC" or "Commission"). The SEC is an independent federal agency having rule-making, oversight and enforcement authority so that it can regulate the securities markets and put into action the Exchange Act. Section 4(a) of the Exchange Act provides that the SEC is to be composed of five commissioners who are appointed by the President by and with the advice and consent of the Senate. 15 U.S.C. § 78(d). Not more than three of the commissioners can be from the same political party and the commissioners who are from different political parties are to be appointed alternately as is practicable. The term of office for each commissioner is five years.

The Commission is authorized under Section 4(b) of the Exchange Act to appoint and compensate members of its staff so that it may carry out its functions. Section 4(A), for example, also enables the Commission to delegate "its functions to a division of the Commission, an individual Commissioner, an administrative law judge, or an employee or employee board, including functions with respect to hearing, determining, ordering, certifying, reporting, or otherwise acting as to any work, business, or matter." 15 U.S.C. § 78d1.

Section 23 of the Exchange Act allows the Commission, the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System and other agencies identified in the Exchange Act to implement such rules, regulations, and orders that are necessary for implementing the provisions of the Exchange Act. 15 U.S.C. § 78w.

Under Section 19 of the Exchange Act, the Commission has oversight responsibilities for monitoring the operation of the securities exchanges, securities associations and clearing agencies that are registered pursuant to Sections 6, 15A, and 17A. 15 U.S.C. §§ 78s, 78f, 78o3, and 78q1. While the exchanges and associations are in large part self-regulating entities, the SEC still has the sole authority to approve, disapprove or modify those rules as it "deems necessary or appropriate to insure the fair administration of the self-regulatory organization ["SRO"]" and to insure that the rules are consistent with the rules and regulations of the Exchange Act and SRO. 15 U.S.C. § 78s(c).

Section 21 of the Exchange Act gives the SEC the power to investigate and ultimately prosecute violations of the Exchange Act, its rules and regulations, as well as those rules that are violated on any of the registered securities exchanges and associations. 15 U.S.C. § 78u. In connection with the SEC's investigative powers, Section 21(b) empowers the SEC to "administer oaths and affirmations, subpoena witnesses, compel their attendance, take evidence, and require the production of any books, paper, correspondence, memoranda, or other records which the Commission deems relevant or material to the inquiry." 15 U.S.C. § 78u(b).

In the event the Commission finds that a person has violated, is violating, or is about to violate the Exchange Act or any of its rules and regulations, after notice and opportunity for hearing, the Commission pursuant to Section 21C of the Exchange Act is authorized to administratively issue a cease-and-desist order with regard to the violative conduct. 15 U.S.C. § 78u3. As part of the order, the Commission may require future compliance with the law or mandate that steps be taken to effect future compliance either permanently or for as long as the Commission may specify with respect to any security, issuer or any other person. 15 U.S.C. § 78u3(a).

Section 21(d)(1) of the Exchange Act authorizes the Commission to bring a court action, upon a proper showing, to enjoin such acts or practices by permanent or temporary injunction or restraining order. 15 U.S.C. § 78u(d)(1). Section 21(d)(3) of the Exchange Act enables the Commission to seek civil money penalties in an action brought in court where it appears that a person has violated the Exchange Act, its rules or regulations, or where a cease-and-desist order has been entered. 15 U.S.C. § 78u(d)(3).

According to Section 21(d)(3)(D), where there is an action to enforce a Section 21C cease-and-desist order entered by the Commission, the Exchange Act states that it is a separate offense for each day that passes where there is a continuing failure to comply with a cease-and-desist order. 15 U.S.C. § 78u(d)(3)(D).

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There is a lot more, but just from reading this I feel the SEC is open to be challenged that they are not fulfilling their responsibility as required.


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Well it was a start that we got the sec to issue that fake April 1st Dedline. So we just have to make sure not to keep our pains inside but to keep this as a hot issue that must be addressed. We are barely even touching this as you can see few people even posted on this thread. They probably figure, I can't fight city hall and who am I to make a difference. It's not true though, if people want to make a difference they can.
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I agree.

If you read this thread and feel you are bieng cheated by the SEC and MM's.....post something. Keep the thread near the top.


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And here's the long list of NITE insiders: http://cbs.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/roster.asp?siteid=bigcharts&sid=177196&symb=NITE
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Please post the SEC's complaint phone number. Which apparently won't get anything done. Then post the O'Reilly Factor email. Also MSNBC and all other news agencys. Make this a to do.

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