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ANEWBIE
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As I joke with my wife, because she is from Michigan and I am from Ohio, he probably just wanted to get out of Michigan as quick as he could...just kidding.....GO TFCT!
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quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
Hmm, for some reason when you go to sign-up and choose your state, some programmer decided to spell Michigan "Michigin". Sticks out like a sore thumb if you're from there

E-mail them being an investor and all!


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anyone else have trouble getting past the credit card page when registering?
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quote:
Originally posted by Nashdaq5:
anyone else have trouble getting past the credit card page when registering?

took mine on the first shot... only problem i saw was in regard to AOL email addresses... but that was no biggy..

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Residents of New York and Florida may not enter
sweepstakes requiring over 5000 tickets

That sucks. I wanted a car.


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quote:
Originally posted by bauer:
Residents of New York and Florida may not enter
sweepstakes requiring over 5000 tickets

That sucks. I wanted a car.


do what i did... make a second registration with an out of state relative's address as your own....


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MMD Bid Bid Size
CRWN ↑ 0.052 50
PERT ↑ 0.051 50
GNET 0.050 50
SCHB ↓ 0.050 50
TDCM ↑ 0.049 50
BMIC 0.049 50
SACM ↓ 0.049 50
SEAB 0.047 50
BAMM 0.046 50
GVRC 0.046 50
WIEN 0.045 50
NITE 0.044 50
FRAN ↑ 0.043 50
HILL 0.040 50
JEFF 0.037 50
VIEW 0.031 50
VFIN 0.030 50
AGIS ↓ 0.030 50
ALPS ↓ 0.030 50
NATL 0.029 50
VNDM 0.029 50
FLCR 0.024 50
CARR 0.020 50
MAYF 0.020 50
FINV 0.014 50

MMD Ask Ask Size
VIEW ↓ 0.054 50
TDCM 0.054 50
NITE ↑ 0.054 50
JEFF ↑ 0.055 50
BMIC ↑ 0.055 50
BAMM ↑ 0.055 50
SCHB 0.055 50
SACM 0.056 50
GVRC ↑ 0.056 50
PERT 0.056 50
SEAB ↑ 0.057 50
WIEN ↑ 0.057 50
CRWN 0.057 50
VFIN 0.060 50
FRAN ↓ 0.060 50
ALPS 0.060 50
HILL ↑ 0.060 50
FINV ↓ 0.066 50
NATL 0.070 50
MAYF 0.070 50
EFGI 0.090 50
FLCR ↑ 0.090 50
VNDM ↑ 0.090 50
AGIS 0.090 50
CARR 0.100 50

Price Qty Time
0.054 11100 11:42:19
0.054 4900 11:42:19
0.054 20100 11:42:11
0.054 6000 11:42:11
0.054 32900 11:42:11
0.054 11000 11:42:11
0.054 30000 11:42:11
0.054 11000 11:42:11
0.054 30000 11:42:11
↑ 0.054 32900 11:42:11
0.053 4000 11:40:56
↓ 0.053 16650 11:40:56
0.054 2100 11:40:17
0.054 2100 11:40:16
0.054 200 11:40:16
↑ 0.054 200 11:40:16
0.053 80200 11:40:09
↑ 0.053 15000 11:40:09
0.052 95200 11:40:09
↓ 0.052 4008 11:40:06
↑ 0.054 4800 11:40:04
↓ 0.052 4800 11:40:04
0.054 9000 11:39:25
0.054 9090 11:39:25
0.054 10388 11:39:19


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what are the chances of this hitting .08 or even .10
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CHANCES ARE GREAT IF WE BREAK THE .05,.06 RESISTANCE!!!!!!
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I hope you guys are right i need to make a few buck to make up for a few bad choices LOL
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looks like we got support at .053 lets hope we can hold
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HEY P,
YOU WLL NOT GO WRONG HERE!!!!
LOOK FOR .10 BY MONDAY!!!!
WE ARE IN BREAKOUT TURF NOW!!!
LOO AT THE CHARTS!!!!

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Careful, dont let the hype blind you to what is really there. There was a site called qool.com that had a very similar structure and did not succeed. They even had a car up for auction, and a trip on the first civilian flight to space. Much like the current launch gimmick for Prizewise. This site has a chance to attract a unique market, but definitely not ebay users. I dont think anyone will use Prizewise instead of ebay. Ebay is simply the better business model, not to mention their giant market share. I have no idea what the PPS will do, but this IS NOT the next ebay. Thats all ill say. Good luck to you all.
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HEY ROGER,
I HAVE BEEN A SELLER ON EBAY SINCE 1998,
EBAY IS BECOMING MORE AND MORE EXPENSIVE
TO DO BUSINESS WITH!!!
YOU PEOPLE PUMP EBAY UP SO MUCH!!!!
THEY DI NOT BECOME A 400 BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY OVERNIGHT!!!
FOR YOU YOUNGSTERS-EBAY STARTED IN 1995!!!THATS ALMOST 10YEARS AGO,
PRIZE WISE WILL NOT KICK EBAYS BUT RIGHT NOW..
BUT IN TIME THEY WILL!!!!

TUFFY!!!


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Right but that is for the seller. We are talking company profitability. Even if prizewise is better for sellers, that means someone else is losing in the value chain.
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well, regardless of what eBay's done and what this will become, we're still going to see a nice rise through this afternoon and monday, assuming the site doesn't run into any major complications over the weekend. Once news comes out that lotteries are happening and people are selling and winning prizes we'll hit .10 with no trouble at all. If we hit .15 by end of next week I'll be happy. Who knows from there.
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Im usually skeptical of threads of running stocks where new members join and put up price targets that are sure things...but thats just me.
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WHATS REALLY FUNNY IS THAT YOU ARE SUCH OF A EXPERT AND YOU CANT SEE THE POTENTIAL
WITH THIS STOCK!!!!
LOOK AT THE CHARTS ROGER-DONT TAKE IT FROM JUST A SMALL TIME NEWBIE!!!!
COME MONDAY I AM GOING TO SMEAR IT IN YOUR FACE WHEN WHERE AT .12!!!!!

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When do you see this correcting TUFFY the trading God? RSI already almost 80, its all emotion from here. Charts say shes almost done!
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quote:
Originally posted by roger7485:
Careful, dont let the hype blind you to what is really there. There was a site called qool.com that had a very similar structure and did not succeed. They even had a car up for auction, and a trip on the first civilian flight to space. Much like the current launch gimmick for Prizewise. This site has a chance to attract a unique market, but definitely not ebay users. I dont think anyone will use Prizewise instead of ebay. Ebay is simply the better business model, not to mention their giant market share. I have no idea what the PPS will do, but this IS NOT the next ebay. Thats all ill say. Good luck to you all.

Roger read this:
From a poster in Internetland

I know what you are talking about, not all free auction sites can stay online long because of piling debts. Qool.com simply became too big, too many big items up for auction. Steve, the founder, probably went bankrupt because too many people were finding free ways to get points without paying a cent. I admit I did that also. I mean, a trip to space, a BMW?? those are too big of items to auction off for free. He simply put things up for auction that he couldnt back up. There are still other free auction sites out there, most are stronger than qool.com because they offer less points or fewer ways to get free points. More and more are using methods that makes you pay to earn points. I am not happy of the way that Steve closed up the site.

Whoever Steve is/was, he is a man. TFCT is a company with real revenue and actual product. I admire your perspective, it's good to see opposing ideals; it's healthy. However I disagree. TFCT is not offering free raffle tickets to the moon, nor or they a small time website developer trying to get rich over night. I think this stock just might surprise you in the long run. Keep your eyes open, if you sleep you might miss something. Amen. GTLA

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Anyone have the Alexa ratings for Prizewise? That would probably be helpful.
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I'm not bashing... I'm just curious. What makes you guy us think that this site will succeed. As oopossed to other auction sites?

I mean it has a very unique and ultimately what looks to be a fun spin on a standard auction site. But what do you feel is the major plus here. Do we have confirmation of a strong PR push/ advertising for the site?

Of course there are other aspects to this business other than Prisewise... but right now I'm just focusing on prizewise. Does anyone have any opinions?

Thanks!

e2


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Heres the problem I have with the business model.

"What if my item doesn't sell enough tickets?

You have 185 days to accumulate ticket entries for your item. If in that amount of time you do not reach the target number of ticket entries you have requested, the raffle will be closed and tickets will be returned to all buyers.

After your raffle has closed due to insufficient ticket entries, you will have the option to relist the item and start a new raffle."

Ok, so you have to sell all the tickets. Well think of it this way. If I put a DVD up for thirty tickets, Who is going to buy one ticket, much less all of them. If I want the DVD i will pay the extra 16 dollars and go buy it myself without the shipping costs. I think the raffle concept only works well with larger items. The only way you will get someone to enter a sweepstakes with such a small prize is to give them tickets "for free". Now, these tickets could be issued by having users buy things from sponsors sites. I think that model just might work. But small items just dont mathematically pan out. And plus, If im selling something like a DVD, who wants to wait for 185 days just to possibly have the item delisted. Americas culture is becoming more and more focused on speed. Everything has to be faster. I dont see people waiting months and months for raffles to end on either the buying or selling end. Once again I have no idea what this does the PPS of the stock because I dont know the O/S or anything like that. But the reason ebay works is because it is fast, efficient, and has a huge subscriber base.

Metcalf's law of exponentiality regarding networks explains why Prizewise will have a very difficult time succeeding.


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Hey Roger the Dodger, get with the program. This stock is not running on emotion. It is running based on facts and figures. Do your DD and you will see. By the way, this guy TUFFY pretends to be a newbie. Check him out, then you will wish you had listened to him and some of the others on this board. Why don't you go back to QBID where everything is emotion and you will fit right in over there.
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Roger...

I think the idea is that (to use your example) that just because the DVD auction has a 185 day wait to sell X number of tickets... doesn't meant it would take that long. Unlike ebay where people may avoid certain auctions because the price is so high or rather where there is competition... it is my undertsnading that doesn't happen here. Every person pays the same amount of $ for each ticket. So they don't have to surf around looking for that "better deal". ALSO I think you will find that because of this fact... "bidders" will lean towards bidding on those auctions that don't have a lot of days left on them. Or that are close to hitting their maximum ticket count.... because they want to expedite their auction (as you said who wants to wait a couple of months for their DVD).

All in all though this basically is a gambling site. And that I think is where we get our money. SURE YEAH... you could go get that DVD player on ebay for $50... HOWEVER here is your chance to get it for $1!!! So on and so forth. The site is creative gambling.

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I know it doesnt "have" to go for 185 days. But this site will not have that big of a customer base..at least at first. So the first people selling stuff on the site will not have a good impression. The TV ads are make or break for this thing. All about Metcalf's law.
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ALERT!!!ALERT!!!ALERT!!!
THE BASHERS ARE HERE!!!!
THEY ARE BEATING DOWN THE COMPANY BEFORE IT LAUNCHES!!!
MERE BASHING AT ITS BEST!!!!
HEY ROGER,TAKE YOUR BASHING BACK OVER TO THE QBID BOARD,THEY WILL BE GLAD TO SEE YA!!!!

TUFFY!!!!


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News out!!

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processes, the impact of competitive products or pricing,
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uncertainties as may be detailed in the Company's filings with the
Securities and Exchange Commission.


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I wouldn't say Roger is bashing the stock, just trying to get his point across and let people know to do the DD. I'm in this for 45K shares, so I obviously think this is going to pay off nicely in a couple of months, but Roger is definitely not a basher.

quote:
Originally posted by TUFFY THE TRADER:
ALERT!!!ALERT!!!ALERT!!!
THE BASHERS ARE HERE!!!!
THEY ARE BEATING DOWN THE COMPANY BEFORE IT LAUNCHES!!!
MERE BASHING AT ITS BEST!!!!
HEY ROGER,TAKE YOUR BASHING BACK OVER TO THE QBID BOARD,THEY WILL BE GLAD TO SEE YA!!!!

TUFFY!!!!


[This message has been edited by newmy500 (edited May 21, 2004).]


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Im bashing? Ok Tuffy. You never answered my question, where do you see this correcting, its overbought? Do you know Metcalf's law and why it says that Prizewise will probably have a very difficult time succeeding?

Im going to play some golf. Have a nice day all.

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Good call about the qool.com Roger, www.qoolcontests.com, however it's not nearly as organized, maintained, and visibly attractive as Prizewise. While I'm all for the potential here there still is the most important part of this site's success, advertisement and whether or not they portray it in a way that will make people feel comfortable using the site and like they're actually getting a deal...meaning luck will have to run in everyones favor so that they atleast win SOMETHING!.
My only real problem here is that they're directly competing with eBay's client base. These are the people who would be most likely to use Prizewise and I'm hesitant to admit that there will be any kind of mass exodus from eBay to Prizewise. Which there won't. BUT, the idea is great, and THIS will bring traffic to the site. The real challenge here will be keeping peoples interest when they start to realize that there's a good chance of them losing every dollar they put in. Short term is very promising here, after that depends on the acceptance of the idea.

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I dont even think Rodger has a point, except to bash. That is how he makes his living. Haven't you heard of him before?
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IT WILL NOT CORRECT RIGHT NOW ROGER!!!
ITS RUNNING!!!!
DARN-AND YOU SUPPOSED TO BE THE PRO...

TUFFY!!!


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Don't send that BASHTARD to QBID!!! We kicked him out a month ago! If there ever was a PAID Bashtard it's The Dodger! He whines when he misses nice runs like this.
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Nice to see im loved, gotta go, tee time at 3 pm! Good luck to you guys If it makes you feel better im losing money in VRMD and PHSLE today!
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