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I'd say it'll run up to .08 without PR next week and on the first run out after PR .15 high. GLTA!!!
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so now that its in stock this weekend customers can now finally purchase the product? i wonder if that many people know its in stock. what is the formula for predicting PPS....something with outstanding shares being divided by something...i forget...someone help me out here!
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quote:Originally posted by Leeman1: What is the prediction on this stock. I keep seeing .06, .08 or .15. Does anyone see this going to $5 or higher? Just wondering.
Some people see it going way past a dollar. Here's one veiwpoint from another board. ............................................
From: "euoraven" <euoraven@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 02:52:05 -0000 Subject: [ibizinvestors] Re: Vkb news great!!! REVENUES WHEN REPORTED WILL
--- anthony, i can touch the vkb.... you know what i mean.... The actual piece that transmits laser is touchable... The applications for the vkb do provide many uniques opportunities for all concerned with the germs associated with traditional keyboards... I wouldn't be surprised if they sell a good percent to the hospitals and such along with the bluedock tech! Also pda growth projection for next few years bode extremely well for ibzt and pda industry. Not to mention vkb can be used for home pc's and cellphones. Eventually as cellphones and pdas are combined the revenue stream will be expotential. I am assuming we have about little under a billion people living in N America alone. I did not research actual population but this is my rough guess.... If someone has time to research i would appreciate.
The ibzt buisness model is quite ingenious. For example in order to limit the cost of inputs associated with running the manufacturing side of its products...Ibzt subs out the production and some of the quality assurnce testing.... This was one reason for the delay, they wanted to make sure everything was 100% smooth befotre it was released. By doing this they reduced the amount of capitol needed to bring these techs to market... I think ibzt could easily sell 30 million of these keyboards by Christmas (production will have to be steped up but will be easy to do with increased capitol from revenues)... My low estimate i am using is a poultry 10 million! Assuming all costs.... 20 dollars of 99 goes to cover costs of goods sold.... So 79 dollars goes to ibzt when considering this as a example the profit margins are quite high. With about 2billion share out this gives ibzt a value of .253 per share using no pe multiple. Multiply it by a pe of 15 which is low for tech stocks and you get a share price of 3.80... This does not include other products or other royalties recieved for patents distribution agreements and such... Keep in mind increasing demand for satelite radio and soon to be released virtual pen! Stay with me>>>> I am guilty of bad grammar and prefer to us my own unique stream of conscious writing style!!!!
Moving on
Now lets assume they only sell 1 million vkbs... get a sp worth .0253 now times a low pe of 15 and we get a share price of .389..(again not including other revenue streams! well this quite long winded but just wanted to illustrate the potential here and my reasoning for stocks price in future!
This is all my opinion please check math and tell me what you think. I know a additional 100 million shares came on the market in april causing minimal diloutive effect but creating additional capitol resources until new rev stream comes in. If any of my numbers are way off please let me know.. i am sure they are using a just in time delivery system....this way they dont have a overstock of inventory sitting on shelves.... Right now demand is higher then supply as Full scale Production is just begining.
Well i hope this provides material for positive discourse HAVE A HELL OF A WEEKEND ALL!!!!!!
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DON'T FORGET the other products like Blue Dock, pocket PC satellite radio, VKB for cellphones.... if they will come out in the 4 QTR (in autumn or by the end of the year) Blue Dock alone will be (maybe) bigger than the keyboard, imo.
So, how high will it go? How long are you willing to stay in??? If you're looking for that magic .1 or .2 and that's all it could happen very quickly. I think a lot of folks are looking for the immediate jump for the stratosphere...nice dream, and if it happens everyone who stays in will be right jiggy. I got into this because I thought it had excellant possibilities in the long term. I'm not so interested in that magic .1 or .2. I think it could very well pop up to that soon but there are so many players that have their eyes on that number that when it does get there a big sell off should be expected. I plan for this ahead of time so that I don't get spooked by the hype and the sudden drop and sell. Unfortunately I can't afford to jump in and out and pick up shares so I must find good looking stocks cheap and ride them out. I'm thinking that there will be a big push up to about .13 in the very near future followed by a retreat back to .08. from there it will bounce back and forth with high volume until it settles around .1 then a slow steady rise through the summer with another big push in the fall with the advent of the Bluedock. By Xmas I'm hoping for .8-.9 and depending in 4th qtr results and the Bluedock release I would expect a rise up near $2 by 4th qtr next year. If all that holds true the next goal would be AMEX or NASDAQ picking it up then mutual funds buying in around $5. After 5yrs price will be $7.40 after 3 splits. Pipe dreams? Maybe. If I'm wrong you're all invited to chew me out in 5yrs. If I'm right...I might let the group know the name of my island in the Carribean for a reunion!! Happy Trails! ;-)
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I belive we should easly get through .08....the comon number i keep hearing is .15... i am not sure where that comes from but i hope we see it this week...a 100 percent gain is not that much considering all the other stocks i have been watching and how they are handling with simmilar news... vcsy went up last week 150 percent because they got a patent for something.... ibiz ran to .08 on what,speculation that they would come out with the keyboards eventually..well here they are it should serpase that run cause this is a defenate...excuse my pitiful spelling.... is there anyone on here that has been trading pennies for a really long time and who can say from experience what tends to happen in a case like this!!!!
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I agree. They ran to .08 on a hope & now we're faced with the reality. I hope it climbs slow for a couple days & then rockets. I will take some profits but intend to hold a major core holding.
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same for me going to take a lil back out to protect capital and then let the rest ride. The one price that stands out to me is .3 I belive we will get there this year. That is some what of a target for me but I also plan on holding some shares past that point
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I think it will rocket monday morning because anyone who has any interest in this has found out that they keyboards are in stock from the web page, over the weekend. alot of people were just staying away from this untill this time and now every one is going to want back in before the run, and they are going to cause the run!
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One question i have and perhaps some one here can answer it is if I order a keyboard is it compadable with all the devices listed at the bottom of ther order page or only for the one that I select when ordering...I have a pc {I would liek to use it with but I also have a sony clie that it could be used with... would I need to sets of software and 2 difrent cables or is it all compatable with the same stuff....I was unable to find an answer on there page, maybe some one else has already checked this out!
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Hey Neo.was that.30 as in the price that stands out to you? Is that the price you will take some off the table or long before? I would not be suprised if we recieved a pr tommorow but you know what it would be ok if we do not. I think we can do a slow crawl upward and that may be better and then let the press roll. Now to me its the marketing agreements imo that will relly set this afire. In every stock I have owned that is the catalist to make it fly.
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FINALLY! Been away at 2 of my kid's college graduations all weekend, and just saw In Stock on website. Looks like the value of the IBZT shares we gave my oldest son Friday (That I bought at bargain price Thursday!) will multiply before his very eyes in the morning! I've been trying to tell him though - view this as 'beginner's luck' - because I could search and research for another 3-6 months to find another sub-penny or penny with this potential. I've told him NOT to expect this all the time!
Good Luck to all us longs - and to all the newbies too!
Steve
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quote:Originally posted by sync2112: Hey Neo.was that.30 as in the price that stands out to you? Is that the price you will take some off the table or long before? I would not be suprised if we recieved a pr tommorow but you know what it would be ok if we do not. I think we can do a slow crawl upward and that may be better and then let the press roll. Now to me its the marketing agreements imo that will relly set this afire. In every stock I have owned that is the catalist to make it fly.
I have a gtc in to sell a smaller percentage before .3 just as a protective measure, but I do belive we will see .3 this yeat and I will be holding shares at that point and beyond..... and even what I sell before that point, if it retraced I will put it back in again.
perhaps im being to optimistic, but i dont want to sell it that badly. just thought if it did hit .13 i would be very happy and can re-invest into other holdings
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Have seen Whizknock's analysis of IBZT's potential revenue stream based on differing levels of unit sales. There are several problems with his financial analysis: 1) IBZT will not receive $100 per VKB sold because a) most of the VKBs will be sold by other retailers (Circuit City and the like) and they will not be paying IBZT $100 when they are selling for $100- IBZT mights see $40 on a gross basis. 2) While the $20 estimate for cost of production may be accurate, there are substantial other costs that have to be covered by the sales price - transportation, accounting, substantial research and development costs relating to new products, administration, etc. etc.
There is no way that IBZT will generate the level of income Whiz estimates.
This is not bash IBZT. I own a lot of shares and look forward to the share price increasing. However, it would be more reasonable to estimate that IBZT will gross about $40 per VKB sold and that it will bring about 10-20% of that to the bottom line (and even that net margin is high for a high tech manufacturer of a retail product). At $8 of income per VKB, IBZT will net $8 million for every 1 million VKBs sold or $.003 per share (assuming about 3 billion shares outstanding). At a 15 multiple (probably very low for a "growth stock" in the high tech field) that's about $.045 in market value per million VKBs sold. Everyone can do the math from here based on their estimates of the number of VKBs that will be sold.
This is all to say that estimates in the dollars per share are a long, long, long way from being a practical reality - many other successful products will have to be introduced beyond even blue dock.
Best luck to all and may this week see a massive upturn in the price of IBZT.
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In a realistic manor I believe the best we can see today would be .05.even with a pr that the vkb is shipping. Its the marketing agreements tyhat set these stocks afire.imo
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I just picked up somemore shares at .0365. buy went thorugh as soon as i clicked send...
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