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Calm down buddy, you know what I mean!

quote:
Originally posted by ignorantbliss:
No he's not.



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quote:
Originally posted by drwright68:
The key word was speculate....would like to get the board focused on that. i'm not leaking anything. if the board starts thinking in those terms we will be ******g soon enough....the news is coming!

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OK, the key word is "speculate" but in the context of your statement, I have taken that statement and read it as "does anyone want to speculate on what the LOI is, that will be announced this week?" Right? Really the whole point is if you know something and it is not public knowledge, lets not speculate. -
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drwright68: "anybody want to speculate as to the LOI that will be announced this week?....yesterday's news was not it!"


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I know Tommy. I'm just saying that where and how I recieved information will remain confidential. This is the last I will say about this. No more speculation. I did not intend on getting in this type of conversation. I apologize for participating.

quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
Calm down buddy, you know what I mean!


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LATE FEES SUCK!


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Great press release... drove the price right down .....I hope it picks up by this afternoon!!!!

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no worries clay, this is huge buying opportunity down here.
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Originally posted by clay1999:
Great press release... drove the price right down .....I hope it picks up by this afternoon!!!!


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Drwright can you mail me at Chrissy1@eircom.net


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great post off the RB (kinda sounds like an oxy moron doesnt it)

good for newbies__________---

DD for PGI

Take a good look at this stock ... PGHI, I have been watching it for some time now and I think this could be at the doors of a breakout soon, maybe next week, please read this information I copied from another board. Always do your DD first before taking any action, but i think this could be an opportunity, but again do your own DD.

The first significant development is a corporate name change to GameZNflix Inc. How significant is this? This demonstrates to the shareholder that PGHI is extremely focused on the success of it’s online business to the extent that they are developing much of their current business model around it’s success. "When you review companies like NetFlixdotcom and apply a similar model to Veegeezdotcom it is easy to see the potential of our new subsidiary." President John Fleming continued, "We feel there is a great upside for our shareholders with this acquisition."

Should shareholders be excited? Absolutely! After all Netflix pulled off a dot-com IPO and reached profitability faster than anyone predicted. Netflix shares have taken a “gigantic leap” in less than 2 years from $4 to $60. Is isn't unreasonable to assume that GameZNflix shareholders will realize substantial gains from it’s current trading level.

A second significant development is the launch of a new web site designed by Roy Vella, Web & Print Design Service. Lance Wiseman, CTO states, "The signing of this contract begins the next phase of VeeGeeZdotcom's business plan to provide enhanced services to its customers. In addition, the new design will not only meet our current video game rental customer base it will setup our expansion into the DVD rental world."

Did he say DVD? A third significant development which will become a much more significant factor in the success of the current business model is the addition of DVD’s to it’s current business model.

The expectation for the launch of online DVD rentals combined with it’s current Online Gaming Rental business is extremely significant. After all Netflix currently does not offer or market Online Video Game Rentals! It will be much more convenient for America to have an subscription service that caters to families that desire both a DVD and Video Game Rental Service! Will this increase the number of people that subscribe to their service? Yes! Will this increase shareholder value? Absolutely!

CANDLESTICK CHARTING PATTERNS
ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN OCURRING
BREAKOUT IMMINENT
(Link Provided)
Let's talk about the ASCENDING TRIANGLE... This pattern is occurring here and will eventually lead to our BREAKOUT...

On the ascending triangle, the horizontal line represents overhead supply that prevents the security from moving past a certain level. It is as if a large sell order has been placed at this level and it is taking a number of weeks or months to execute, thus preventing the price from rising further. Even though the price cannot rise past this level, the reaction lows continue to rise. It is these higher lows that indicate increased buying pressure and give the ascending triangle its bullish bias.

.05 has been resistance on two previous occasions. Reaction lows continue to rise. When we have our final base established at .04 and our new name change and web site are released.... OUR ASCENDING TRIANGLE PATTERN will lead to a BREAKOUT.

Also keep in mind.... as I've stated before. Because we have no previous buyers above .05... there is ZERO upside resistance which means the BREAKOUT will be significantly stronger than most anticipate.
.10 and beyond will be here soon."

PLUS --------

LINKS:

Current Website: http://www.gameznflix.com/ http://www.veegeez.com

Big Charts showing stock at the top for last 3 months: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/industry/bigcharts-com/focus.asp?bcind_ind=scr&bcind_sid=&bcind_period=3mo

Stock Charts showing the stock with perfect cup handles
reforming and steady consolidation and rising price: http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=PGHI,uu[h,a]daclyiay[db][pb200!c50!f][vc60][iut!Uc20!Ud20]&pref=G

Buying indicators and resistance: http://quotes.barchart.com/texpert.asp?sym=pghi

MM’s on the stock: http://www.otcbb.com/asp/mp_quotes.asp?Quotes=PGHI

Competitors on the net selling DVD's & Games: http://www.bestwebbuys.com/video/dvd-rentals

Blockbuster interview discussing revenues in the industry & projections http://www.twst.com/notes/articles/paa224.html

SEC filings for PGHI http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/secfilings.asp?symb=PGHI&sid=1331222&siteid=mktw

Financials for PGHI http://www.marketwatch.com/tools/quotes/financials.asp?symb=PGHI&sid=1331222&siteid=mktw

Traffic for the site of Veegeez: http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&range=2y&size=medium&compare_sites=&url=http://www.veegeez.com/#top


In general: IMO ----
Without pumping and without PR's, the stock has risen
to its approximate worth as per the float, shares
outstanding and cash flow. Coming in the near future: an acquisition, a name change, a new website for customer base ordering online, and other forthcoming PR's coupled with Private Placements generating new income should help propel the stock nicely. The CEO does not believe in
fluff PR's, and seems poised in his motivation to try to become the leader in the Games/DVD online industry. We also expect the official opening of the second distribution center which will be located in Kentucky.
This should impact our shareholders quite favorably.


Point Group Holdings, Inc. Announces Move to Franklin, Kentucky
December 09, 2003
Point Group Holdings, Inc. announced that its corporate headquarters is relocating from San Diego, California, to Franklin, Kentucky, during the last weeks of December. This relocation is part of the planned opening of PGHI's subsidiary's VeeGeeZ.com new distribution center which will located in the Franklin area. The distribution center will be the second center for VeeGeeZ; the original distribution center will remain open in California.

Point Group Holdings and Legend Mobile Establish Joint Venture
FRANKLIN, KY and ANN ARBOR, MI -- (MARKET WIRE) -- 01/20/2004 -- Point Group Holdings, Incorporated (OTC BB: PGHI) and Legend Mobile (OTC BB: LGMB) today announced that they have reached a basic agreement that will create a joint venture between the two companies. The companies intend to collaborate on leveraging Legend Mobile's portfolio of entertainment relationships to develop and market Point Group's upcoming GameZnFlix.com online DVD and Game rental service.
The aim of the joint venture is to contribute Legend's expertise in the areas of entertainment marketing, licensing and branding, mobile advertising and stored value programs to the launch of Point Group Holdings' new online movie and game rental service to be known as GameZnFlix.com.
"I am excited to work with PGHI on this project. We look forward to contributing to the launch and success of this very competitive online rental service -- GameZnFlix.com," stated Peter Klamka, President of Legend Mobile.
In addition to the marketing efforts and strategy by Legend Mobile, Point Group Holdings will extend a credit facility to Legend Mobile of Five Hundred Thousand Dollars and Mr. Klamka will also be joining Point Group Holdings' Advisory Board which will be established in February 2004.
PGHI's CEO/President, John Fleming, stated, "We are fortunate to have the opportunity to work with Legend Mobile to bring GameZnFlix.com to the public, along with increasing our exposure of our online game rental company VeeGeeZ.com. The joint ventures we have planned will greatly assist our launch in February of GameZnFlix, as well as the future of both of the companies."
Since its inception in 1998, Legend Mobile has developed a number of commercial opportunities for celebrity brands in various new and traditional media. Mobile has been a pioneer in creating branded mobile products such as PDAs and mobile applications and accessories. Legend's work was highlighted in the industry study: "DoCoMo -- The Wireless Tsunami." Through its subsidiary, Legend Credit, the company creates stored value products such as gift cards and reloadable debit cards. Legend has worked with a range of world recognized brands and personalities. In the past five years, Legend's work has included Claudia Schiffer, Christina Aguilera, Hilary Duff, NASCAR personalities, Disney Records, Nelly, and Mandy Moore. Additionally, Mr. Klamka has worked with Paramount Pictures, the rock group KISS, and major distributors in the pay-per-view television industry.
Point Group Holdings, Incorporated is a holding company which, through its subsidiaries, provides management services to businesses that have an operating history or can substantiate future performance in their respective industries. The Company participates in companies in various fields of business by providing executive-level managerial assistance as well as arranging for and contributing capital investment.

The link for LEGEND: http://www.legendm.com/whoweare.htm


CEO for questions:
John Fleming
ceo@pghi.biz


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Share Data:

01.21.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 474,634,040
Float: 234,625,696

01.16.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 469,074,949
Float: 230,425,696

01.09.2004 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 468,049,949
Float: 226,284,982

12.15.2003 _____________
Authorized: 900,000,000
Issued: 440,799,949
Float: 197,361,116
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Per Interwest Transfer Company 01/21/2003
(801)277-1400


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wasnt that article written by mach a while ago
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Good news or what ever it's still dropping.... I've been experiencing every time news comes out no matter how good it is the price of the stock drops!!!!! I hold a large number of shares here also...
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quote:
Originally posted by clay1999:
Good news or what ever it's still dropping.... I've been experiencing every time news comes out no matter how good it is the price of the stock drops!!!!! I hold a large number of shares here also...

Your frustration is understood. Look on the bright side very low volume today. Yesterday was my day to be frustrated. I am there with yah clay. Time is of the virtue. - Marty


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Clay....AND EVERYONE ELSE TOO....

This stock does not drop everytime a PR is released. What we have seen the last two PR's is this.

The December 9th PR everyone new it was coming. It was all over RB and everywhere else. Everyone even new what the PR was......So everyone and their uncle bought the stock.....the pr was released and it didn't show up on any streamers....thus the only people who new about the PR was the people who had already bought. The day and swing traders saw that the price was not moving fast enough, and so they bailed out and they price dropped.

Same thing happened here. There was a big assumption that there was going to be a PR this week, so people bought the stock and drove the price up.....the pr was released and it again didn't hit the streamers.....The price rose to .061 and hit resistance, where there was some selling. MM's do shake (anyone with "Last Sale" can see it was an MM shake) and price drops. Limit orders set at .05 cause Day and swing traders to sell, so price drops.....slowly throughout the day.....


This is the life of a stock.....there has been problems with PR releases, it does not change anything......

Magoo is on his way to talk to JF about investing a large some of money. DVD aquisition (sp?) is on its way....new name change, and new website in Febuary.


[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 21, 2004).]

[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited January 21, 2004).]


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I am sorry for being so angry, but come on.....the same questions and worries have been brought up so many times its starting to give me a headache.
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Can someone tell John Fleming NO MORE PR's the seem to kill the value of his stock!!! wheew!!!!
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quote:
Originally posted by BetNitAll:
Clay....AND EVERYONE ELSE TOO....

Now F*CKING relax already. The price will go up when it goes up. If you don't like it then sell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


OUCH. Just a gentle reminder this is a forum. People come here to voice their concerns and praises. We are very lucky there has been no "bashers" present. If we stymie people's comments that are based on "true" sincerity what good is a forum anyway?

For the record I am one of the lucky investor who has almost all their PGHI shares purchased at the sub-penny level. This is why I am not worried, but their are allot of investors who have purchased shares all the way up to .061 level. If these people where not alittle concerned with the PPS, then there is something wrong with them. I don't care who you are, you have gotten bitten by the market and with that goes some healthy caution. - Marty


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Sorry I'm not selling....I'm in for the long just letting off a litte steam... it's been very furstrating ... as all I was expecting a modest gain by now....I been holding since November....
Clay

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Your right, everyone's opinion is welcome....sorry for being so harsh. I will go back and edit it..


quote:
Originally posted by m_h13021:
OUCH. Just a gentle reminder this is a forum. People come here to voice their concerns and praises. We are very lucky there has been no "bashers" present. If we stymie people's comments that are based on "true" sincerity what good is a forum anyway?

For the record I am one of the lucky investor who has almost all their PGHI shares purchased at the sub-penny level. This is why I am not worried, but their are allot of investors who have purchased shares all the way up to .061 level. If these people where not alittle concerned with the PPS, then there is something wrong with them. I don't care who you are, you have gotten bitten by the market and with that goes some healthy caution. - Marty



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I am sorry too, I was also letting off a little steam......I guess the price drop does get to me too.

Actually it drives me nuts..

Please except my appology everyone.

Everyone hold strong..

I have bought into this stock sevral times....and one time happen to be when it was at the all time high of .049.

Right after I bought, it fell all the way to .028...I bought more as it fell because mach said it would rise again, and it did... I too am up now.....This is a great time to average down. Anything under .05 is a steal.

Times like these are when we should remember all the good things that are going to be released. If its still in this same spot by end of Febuary, then we worry....Until then, we are more then ok!


PGHI's day will come....its just a matter of time. Hold long and hold strong!

quote:
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Sorry I'm not selling....I'm in for the long just letting off a litte steam... it's been very furstrating ... as all I was expecting a modest gain by now....I been holding since November....
Clay

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I am frustrated too, but penny land is a mystery place... look at GLBT. Now tell me that doesnt get you scratching your head in bewilderment. Anyways it is apparent this stock is going to creep up slowly, and who knows, maybe it will shoot up like a rocket one day. Know one really knows. I remember I mistakenly bought IBZT at 0.0028 last month and was so frustrated because the company seemed to have nothing going for it, and i sold it at 0.0030. LOOK AT IT NOW!!! You never know what happens. As for you frustrations, punch a wall - then cover it with a picture. Its been working for me so far

Hopefully PGHI's day will come sooner than we think!


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quote:
Originally posted by trader01:
I am frustrated too, but penny land is a mystery place... look at GLBT. Now tell me that doesnt get you scratching your head in bewilderment. Anyways it is apparent this stock is going to creep up slowly, and who knows, maybe it will shoot up like a rocket one day. No one really knows. I remember I mistakenly bought IBZT at 0.0028 last month and was so frustrated because the company seemed to have nothing going for it, and i sold it at 0.0030. LOOK AT IT NOW!!! You never know what happens. As for you frustrations, punch a wall - then cover it with a picture. Its been working for me so far

Hopefully PGHI's day will come sooner than we think!



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We will have the last laugh with PGHI....all the way to the bank
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Listen people, I think this was a great pr but I really didn't expect it to move the pps very much. Yes, they have entered into a joint venture with Legend Mobile, this is great, but until the pr's come out detailing RESULTS from this joint venture as far as actual marketing initiatives, I wouldn't expect anybody other than us current investors to get that excited. We are still on the OTC, remember? There's a lot of people who still aren't sold on PGHI. We see it everyday with posters asking if this is a good time to get in. Maybe I'm way off base here, but I for one as a long am just as content as when we were heading up to the all time high. This is called patients (def.: calmly awaiting an outcome). Yes it would have been great if the price soared. In time it will, IMHO.

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quote:
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Can someone tell John Fleming NO MORE PR's the seem to kill the value of his stock!!! wheew!!!!


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I think some of the guys on this message board should stop looking at pghi for a couple of days... Just to relax take a so called pghi vacation.... Check out the other links but avoid the gamesnflix link... Were all addicts and it's getting to us. Woosaaa people wooosssaaaaaaaa. (bad boys 2)
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I think the thing is that we are all very impatient - look at the netflix chart, if anything it is not a straight line going up. I have to admit i tried to take a PGHI vacation, but i couldnt handle it. this time i think i REALLY have to back away and check the price next month.

Let some moderator block any PGHI boards for a couple of weeks, i think it is healthy for all.


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quote:
Originally posted by tommy:
It's funny to hear people say "I'm long" and see them worry about the stock every single second of every trading day! Where's the logic in that? None!

Sorry I had to vent about the people who question every tick that ANY stock makes! LOL

GLTA!

[This message has been edited by tommy (edited January 21, 2004).]


I couldn't agree more.
These little dips just give me a better purchase price.



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it isnt that people are not excited about the pr.. they might be excited if they knew about it! the only problem here is that nobody knows about the pr's!!!!!!! the only people that know are the current shareolders! does anyone think it would be out of line to suggest to JF that he give Market Wire the boot? not that he will listen or anything will come of it, im just afraid that if they continue to let Market Wire release the pr's this will just keep happening. how are we supposed to attract new investors and get noticed if nobody knows about the pr's??
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and im sorry too if i seem a little edgy, i am just extremely frustrated as well... not because of the price dip, but because of the lack of exposure. i am long and strong since october.
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ok no offense to anywoman on board.. I know your all gonna hate me for this. But I have to shed some light over here..... Quick Joke...


When are men smarter... before , during or after sex ??????

Think,

Stil thinking ?

answer : During sex , cause there plugged into misses f @#$ ' N know it all...


Hey my secratary told me that ... LOL


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Well people we can always look forward to this:
http://users.adelphia.net/~x1f2/test-site.html

and if this doesn't get'em moving, ah well? -

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Would we not be witnessing the "handle" portion during this dip today as we saw during the last 2 "cup and handle" patterns? I thought this was to be expected. Maybe cabbage22 can comment on this.

j160e


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Hello all,

I can see the usual nervousness on the board of a small drop off of ALL TIME HIGHS.

Support is at .05, not too hard to see that-
Next support is at .042, as it always has.

We are forming either an M-Type top, look it up if you dont know what this is.

Or, the handle of the cup. To complete the handle we need to move back up near .055 and stay level on increasing volume. If this isnt done in the next few days we are likely to slide into another cup from the M-type top.

IMO we will slide to mid/high fours for a cup bottom, and anticipation of news will drive us back up.

Stop worrying! Some of you people drive me crazy!!!!!!
jk

ps check out CYOS and tell me what you think, tech alert this afternoon, could be a good swing play


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Hey everybody, theres a little more info on the Raging Bull board, message 25979.
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Listen, the majority of people did receive this PR. Yesterday it was sent to NYC and LA. That is the majority. The people that make up Ameritrade, Etrade, etc are just a small percentage. Besides the new got out to them late yesterday and again this morning.

As soon as it went up a little yesterday people that got in late were profit taking and/or bailing. Right now we're forming another accumulation period (check out the MACD). It's leveling out and the longer it stays on that track before crossing over, the bigger the movement will be.

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it isnt that people are not excited about the pr.. they might be excited if they knew about it! the only problem here is that nobody knows about the pr's!!!!!!! the only people that know are the current shareolders! does anyone think it would be out of line to suggest to JF that he give Market Wire the boot? not that he will listen or anything will come of it, im just afraid that if they continue to let Market Wire release the pr's this will just keep happening. how are we supposed to attract new investors and get noticed if nobody knows about the pr's??

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LATE FEES SUCK!


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News has never hit Etrade for some reason,There is no company news for PGHI at all......Just letting you know.I emailed this ti JF yesterday and he said Marketwire were informed.

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Listen, the majority of people did receive this PR. Yesterday it was sent to NYC and LA. That is the majority. The people that make up Ameritrade, Etrade, etc are just a small percentage. Besides the new got out to them late yesterday and again this morning.

As soon as it went up a little yesterday people that got in late were profit taking and/or bailing. Right now we're forming another accumulation period (check out the MACD). It's leveling out and the longer it stays on that track before crossing over, the bigger the movement will be.



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Yes, Market Wire was informed and as a result they re-released the PR this morning for free. However, as you can tell it didn't make much difference. Like I said, the majority of people received the PR.
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