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Marcidius
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Thx Mach, yes it was QUITE a relief to get a position this morning before the real gains started. This is just a twinkle in our eye I have a feeling...

So much DD going on, so many good points, there is a lot going for us.

I am VERY HAPPY I'm in...haha

w00t to us guys... baby steps to .04's would be great, like you said that would create a nice floor for us hopefully!


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Yes, that is true, the trend is that people in the US will play more and more video games in the years to come, that is a fact.!

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Yes... this is the article I've been looking for... It is important to not that people will play video games much more than watching DVD's. We certainly have the perfect Service... don't we.

*** Future's so Bright ***
mach

According to Fortune magazine, Americans will spend more time playing video games this year -- about 75 hours on average -- than watching rented videos and DVD's.



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HELLO PSU90, yes, i am at a public computer but I would not miss this. I lost internet connection today AGAIN, but that won't happen anymore, I will change of internet service provider real soon. But again, PSU, we will build base at 0.04s for the big breakuot!!!!. As you can see this is HOT, way to HOT to miss this.!!!!

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LOL Mav! Glad you found a computer today!



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More good news all around about the video game industry....

10/30/2003 12:22:22 PM | Industry |
Computer and Video Game Industry Raises more than $850,000 for America's Kids

The U.S. computer and video game industry raised more than $850,000 to benefit America's children last week at the ESA Foundation's annual "Nite to Unite - For Kids" benefit dinner held in San Francisco and through an online public auction held in conjunction with eBay.
"This is an event we look forward to each year as our industry comes together to support America’s children," said Douglas Lowenstein, president of the Entertainment Software Association (ESA), the trade group representing U.S. computer and video game publishers. "While people of all ages now play games, our industry owes its initial success to kids and “Nite to Unite” gives us an opportunity to support the charities and programs that will secure and improve their futures."

Attendees of last night's dinner bid on a variety of items that ranged from autographed memorabilia, wine and trips to France. This year, the funds raised by the ESA Foundation will benefit the Starbright Foundation, WAVE, the Starlight Children’s Foundation and Web Wise Kids.

Jeff Griffiths, President and CEO of Electronic Boutiques Holding Corp., was honored with the ESA's Champion Award, given annually to a member of the interactive entertainment industry in recognition of outstanding service and contributions to the industry. Griffiths’ vision and commitment have helped build Electronics Boutique into one of the most successful global specialty retail chains in the business. In turn, Electronics Boutique’s innovations have helped foster electronic gaming as a way of life for millions of consumers, paving the way for the growth of the entire interactive entertainment industry.

This year's "Nite to Unite" dinner was co-chaired by: Laurent Detoc, President, Ubi Soft Entertainment Inc.; Rob Dyer, President, Eidos Interactive; and Jacqualee Story, Executive Vice President, Business Affairs, Nintendo of America, Inc.

Following is brief background on the dinner beneficiaries.


Web Wise Kids - WWK uses a computer game to teach children about Internet safety and luring. This will be the third year the ESA Foundation has supported Web Wise Kids. For more information see http://www.webwisekids.org.
WAVE -WAVE programs help children who have or are thinking of dropping out of school. The programs seek to train dropouts for the work force and provide GED tutoring and an alternative school classroom atmosphere and support services to discourage potential drop outs. Additional information can be found at http://www.waveinc.org.
The STARBRIGHT Foundation - Starbright is dedicated to the development of projects that empower seriously ill children to combat the medical and emotional challenges they face on a daily basis. ESA Foundation funds will support the Webisodes project which assists youths (aged 12-17) in coping with cancer and chemotherapy. Additional information can be found at http://www.starbright.org.
The Starlight Children’s Foundation – The Starlight Children’s Foundation is an international non-profit organization dedicated to improving the quality of life for seriously ill children and their families. ESA Foundation funds will be supporting the Starlight Teen program which seeks to provide seriously ill teenagers, who are unable to participate in typical teen activities due to their illness, opportunities to interact with peers through social activities. Additional information can be found at: http://www.starlight.org.
The ESA Foundation was created by the American interactive entertainment software industry to support and provide opportunities that can make a difference in the lives of America’s youth. The Foundation is fully supported by proceeds from “A Nite to Unite—for Kids,” its annual fund-raiser that has raised more than more than $6.4 million in the last five years. The Foundation has provided grants to support: Web Wise Kids; Boys and Girls Clubs of America; Delinquency Prevention Initiative - Year three; Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation; Just Think Foundation; YouthVision Challenge; Mothers Against Violence in America's Students Against Violence Everywhere (SAVE) project; and the expansion of the Boys & Girls Clubs of Oakland Computer Learning Center. The event also has become one of the most anticipated events in the industry. The Entertainment Software Association is the U.S. association dedicated to serving the business and public affairs needs of companies publishing interactive games for video game consoles, handheld devices, personal computers, and the Internet.

Computer and Video Game Industry Raises more than $850,000 for America's Kids


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Look how hot this industry is, there is a big conference in Jan 2004 designed for students and professionals eager to get a job in the computer and video game industry ... This trend is will be way long from here.

How To Break Into Video Game Industry - Austin Conference
Posted on Friday, December 12 2003 @ 13:05:45 EST by christina

The Game Initiative today announced a new conference designed for students and professionals eager to get a job in the computer and video game industry. "How To Break Into Video Game Industry: Mini-Conference, Resume Workshop and Job Fair" will take place January 31, 2004 in San Francisco. The event is designed for artists, programmers and designers looking to get into the business. Attendees will have the opportunity to speak with industry insiders, including top recruiter Mary-Margaret.com, hiring managers from local game companies as well as network and meet with industry veterans. Alias, the world's leading innovator of 3D graphics technology, is lead sponsor of the event.

"The comprehensive program will provide an overview of the industry, identify technology trends and requirements as well as the qualifications and skill-sets that are in demand," said Christopher Sherman, Game Initiative Executive Director. "The casual nature of this event allows attendees an unprecedented opportunity to interact with industry veterans, ask questions, gain valuable contacts and understand the business." . .

Students will learn how to build an early professional road map to a career in the game industry. Professionals looking to move into the business from other industries will learn how their experience and transferable skills can gain rapid entry into this industry. The event will also provide a great opportunity for local companies to meet potential new talent.

How To Break Into Video Game Industry - Agenda

8:30am - 9:00am Registration and Networking
9:00am - 9:45am Industry Overview
10:00am - 10:45am Getting in at the Ground Floor
11:00am - 12:00pm Applying Transferable Skill Sets
12:00pm - 1:30pm Networking
1:30pm - 3:00pm Resume Workshop

The cost is $35 in advance or $45 at the door. The event takes place at the 600 Townsend Building located in the South of Market Area at the corner of 7th and Townsend Streets in San Francisco. Registration is available online at http://www.TheGameInitiative.com

How To Break Into Video Game Industry attendees will:

Find out what employers are looking for now and in the future
Learn how the game development pipeline works
Receive an overview of the industry and where it's headed
Understand the core competencies required in art, programming and design
Meet and network with professionals in the industry
Participate in a resume workshop designed to gain them critical interviews with hiring managers.
"How To Break Into Video Game Industry" is managed by the staff that produced widely acclaimed Austin Game Conference in September and the Austin Game Breakin in November. The Game Initiative – http://www.TheGameInitiative.com - was spun out of the Austin Game Initiative (AGI) to focus on producing leading game industry events worldwide.

About The Game Initiative
The Game Initiative is chartered with the growth of the computer and video game industry by serving the needs of companies involved in producing interactive entertainment software and hardware for video game consoles, handheld devices, personal computers and the Internet. The Game Initiative was spun out of the Austin Game Initiative (AGI), an organization focused on supporting the game development industry in Austin, Texas. Austin is the # 3 location in the U.S. for game development with more than 50 companies making major contributions to the game industry, including game development, publishing, tools and middleware and chips and hardware. The AGI produces The Austin Game Conference which will take place September 9-10, 2004. More information about the Game Initiative can be found at http://www.TheGameInitiative.com.

The name The Game Initiative is a trademark of Austin Game Initiative.


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OT: Mav....if you could....check out the FNIX thread and LMK your quick and dirty Tech view!

As for PGHI.....you amaze me with the amount of industry news you are digging up! Thank you!


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Oh man, that info is great

It's too bad I can't fly out there for the conference, that is right up my alley!!


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a late good morning to you all. what a team!! sorry for my absence this weekend, but all of a sudden i am overwhelmed with the holidays and our non profit groups. also this time of the year, the guests start arriving and we will be in the social mode for months to come.

i started this post an hour ago and have had non stop interuptions since to give you an idea of what is going on for me. i'm glad to see pghi doing it's thing and calming some of the doubt. i hope many of you took advantage of the 20's and loaded up. i sure did.

robin, hi and thanks. thanks to all for the positive feedback. robin, ms mullet takes one look at the multiple number laden windows and tells me she is glad i see something in them as they are greek to her.

is there a post office near the ky location? with today's internet based business it is a whole new frontier and traditional "location location location" business models are being reinvented as we discuss this and other stocks. we all probably know people who run successful small internet businesses from their homes. the whole e bay concept has spawned countless businesses. a good website, the promt physical filling of orders and the shipping is the key. the rest is done with computers. since we are talking about cds here and not televisions and microwave ovens, allot can be done in a small humble building. the netflix location in tacoma is a good example. i like the idea that pghi is keeping the costs down to start.

wow, three more interuptions!!! better post this while i have a chance.

uncle milty


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You wouldn't think it would be so hard to contact someone about the private placement. I have left two messages and 2 e-mails and have yet to get any info. They say they are going to call me back in less then 10 mins....lets see.

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I am so dang tired from not being able to sleep I have to go back to bed, however I have contacted the Zoning office for Franklin KY. They are checking on the address to see if its comercial or residential. I don't know if it matters either way, but I would still like to know. I have to call her back 11:00am Pacific time, 1:00pm central, or 2:00pm Eastern.....but I will be sleeping...I have to go to work tonight....anyone want to call and get the info...alls you have to do is give her the address again and say someone called previous.....The town has a population of 7,000....so I don't think you will have a problem with her not remembering.....the number is 270-586-3356

Just tell her your following up a call about the zoning for the cornor of Blackjack road and Ditmore Rd


Any takers


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Hey guys,
what is the symbol being traded here. just woke up and seeing activity here. Thanks.

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pghi is the symbol
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EDDIE... YOU AE JOKING RIGHT? IF NOT PGHI! MAKE SURE YOU CATCH UP ON THE ENTIRE THREAD! ITS AN OUTSTANDING READ. MACH

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Hey guys,
what is the symbol being traded here. just woke up and seeing activity here. Thanks.


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Mach,

Is there any way to "edit" the title of this thread to include the ticker name (PGHI)? It's just a thought..

FlyWolf


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quote:
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Mach,

Is there any way to "edit" the title of this thread to include the ticker name (PGHI)? It's just a thought..

FlyWolf



A good thought at that...


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Hey Bet, I've emailed twice last week and havent gotten a reply yet. Mach said that Flemming wont be replying until jan 1, so that may be why.

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You wouldn't think it would be so hard to contact someone about the private placement. I have left two messages and 2 e-mails and have yet to get any info. They say they are going to call me back in less then 10 mins....lets see.

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I am so dang tired from not being able to sleep I have to go back to bed, however I have contacted the Zoning office for Franklin KY. They are checking on the address to see if its comercial or residential. I don't know if it matters either way, but I would still like to know. I have to call her back 11:00am Pacific time, 1:00pm central, or 2:00pm Eastern.....but I will be sleeping...I have to go to work tonight....anyone want to call and get the info...alls you have to do is give her the address again and say someone called previous.....The town has a population of 7,000....so I don't think you will have a problem with her not remembering.....the number is 270-586-3356

Just tell her your following up a call about the zoning for the cornor of Blackjack road and Ditmore Rd


Any takers



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Nearest post office is 0.9 miles away from corporate HQ
http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-showpoi/usr=~3fe733b8.47815.41a0.7/c=2/refsrc=USPS/poi=zusps:10589

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I just verified that new website will not be up by the end of year. They are thinking of a press release, becasuse the exact date is known. However, they are cautious becasue it has been delayed twice already

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BetNitAll, you got that confirmation from whom? John Fleming (ceo)?
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Volume now at 2,644,169! GREAT! Just checkin' in... got to do more shopping!
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Just Curious, but why hasn't the bid increased?
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As stated earlier... it would be amazing to see what this does on 20-40 million in volume. This thing really is sickly bullish... as a "newbie" I can even see that.
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This is twice that I have posted this. I have talked to the guy at VeeGeez and a guy at the investor relations, they have both told me that the site will not be up until next year. John is leaving the counntry to go on vacation from what I hear, although he might call me with in the next 24 hours....I know I ain't doing a private placement until he is back in country LOL

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BetNitAll, you got that confirmation from whom? John Fleming (ceo)?


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The post office is just 0.9 miles away? That's called real planning for things to come. Great info!
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Yeah, I am having fun. I don't do much else anymore. Work, who needs work.

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Congrats to everybody held strong during the pullback..

And congrats to people who took action and advantage of the situation and bought @ around .027 instead of whining that the price was going down..

R we having fun yet????

GL



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Is this where the new corprate office is. This is all commercial. North of here is residential though.
http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3fe73912.2d3bb.428f.5/c=1/refsrc=SB.newsb/isredir=1/

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It has to be commercial. The strating point of this map is commercial and the ending point is PGHI They are only 0.35 miles apart. Will find out for sure though
http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&cl=EN&un=m&ct=NA&1y=US&1a=814+Blackjack+rd&1c=Franklin&1s=ky&1z=42134&1ah=&2y=US&2a=1535+Blackjack+rd&2c=Franklin+&2s=ky&2z=4 2134&2ah=&formtype1=address&formtype2=address&idx=0&id=3fe739b8-001f6-06f01-400c2548&aid=3fe739b8-001f7-06f01-400c2548

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Response to BetNitAll:

Well if 814 Blackjack Rd, Franklin, KY 42134 is your reference address and if north of this location is residential 1535 Blackjack Road is in a residential area. Right?

This all just too speculative. Satellite images, road maps, blah blah blah, I have really spun out of control. For all I know not any of this information is accurate.

This is DD, but really how good is it? My excitement has blurred the reality when it comes to all this research and what not. -


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In less then 24 hours, I will see it allfor myself, and you willknow shortly there after....Cheers, what a great day!!

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Well if 814 Blackjack Rd, Franklin, KY 42134 is your reference address and if north of this location is residential 1535 Blackjack Road is in a residential area. Right?

This all just too speculative. Satellite images, road maps, blah blah blah, I have really spun out of control. For all I know not any of this information is accurate.

This is DD, but really how good is it? My excitement has blurred the reality when it comes to all this research and what not. -



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Great point KC will know for sure in a little while. Although I did get off the phone with the zoning and was told that that area is surrounded with light industrial warehouses and subdivisions. He told me that there was no way to find out for sure if the exact address was residential or commercial becuase he doesn't have those kind of maps....small towns....go figure. Looking forward to hearing from you KC.....have a safe journey.....\

By the way...private placement is trying to raise 1.5 million dollars. Minimum investment is $5,000 and the share price will be %50 of the last three closes. However, it will not go under .02


The guy kinda sounded like he was reading from a scrip, almost like a telemarketer


Does anyone else notice how Kc says cheers at the end of his messages....is that you John

Well I am off to bed....good luck everyone

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In less then 24 hours, I will see it allfor myself, and you willknow shortly there after....Cheers, what a great day!!


[This message has been edited by BetNitAll (edited December 22, 2003).]


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Interesting article about TriggerFingers that mentions Veegeez. Note the comment about how video games are more difficult to purchase and warehouse. Come to think of it, the prices for new games are around $40-$50 while new DVD's are around $20. Double the price for the games while keeping approx. the same subscriptions rates makes it a bit tight.


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TriggerFingers Ports The NetFlix Online Rental Model to Games
Aug 13, 2003 (Electronic Gaming Business/PBI Media via COMTEX) -- The gaming gold rush has officially begun. Now that the big story is abroad, that gaming is a multibillion-dollar industry poised for double-digit annual growth, there is no shortage of entrepreneurs pitching new business models around America's happy gaming addiction. To wit: TriggerFingers, a Web- based game rental store started by brothers Matt and Chris Twogood on the profits they made from selling their machine shop last year.

"We decided we needed to do something different...or more fun," says Matt. Which was TriggerFingers, whose subscribers pay between $14.95 and $29.95 a month to borrow between two and five console games at a time via mail. Mimicking the very successful NetFlix model for renting DVDs for unlimited periods, TriggerFingers lets users keep the titles for as long as they remain members. When they reach the maximum number of games their membership tier allows them to have out at a time, the users must send an older title back to get a new one.

Based in Colorado, the Twogoods have 600 unique titles in their warehouse, with 15 to 20 copies of the more popular games. If a member requests a title that is not in, he is placed in a queue so that he is in line to receive the next available copy that comes back to the warehouse. Like NetFlix, TriggerFingers uses the U.S. mail, and tries to send orders out on the day they are made at the site, so that highly popular titles may never even make it back onto the shelves. Nevertheless, Matt Twogood has some of the same issues with the game rental model as video stores, which find that game inventory is simply more costly than equivalent DVD stocks. "The games are very expensive, both to purchase and to warehouse," he says.

For now, TriggerFingers buys its titles wholesale from Ingram and Jack of All Games, just like most independent video and game shops. Twogood has no direct relationships with publishers as yet, though Sammy Studios (Guilty Gear, Lethal Skies) has contacted the company about discussing partnerships.

A Workable Model?

If TriggerFingers and other similar attempts at porting the NetFlix model to games (NumbThumb.com, VeeGeez.com, and others) are to succeed, they must first convince game publishers to stop selling the renters games and instead share in the revenues. NetFlix only started making money when the company partnered directly with studios, who charged little to nothing for the DVDs the company sent out and instead took a share in the rental fees. That is the only way for companies like these to keep their inventory costs and risk on slow moving titles reasonable.

For now, and as a two man operation, the Twogoods say they estimate a break-even point at 400 subscribers, and after a few months of operation they have between 50 and 60. The bulk of the subscribers came only within the last few weeks, as TriggerFingers' new PR firm issued press releases and got coverage in The Denver Post. The site gets 25,000 hits a month, suggesting a lot of window shopping.

Small as that may seem, there is some interest among a niche of gamers for this model, and it could conceivably be marketed effectively to a couple of constituencies. For rabid gamers who need to play just about everything, this is a model that lets them do so. It could also function much like the cult video film market, which has numerous vendors working through mail order and the Web. Fans of Japanese games and hard-to-find vintage games could latch onto Web-based libraries like these, which might have specialty areas of obscure and foreign titles.

The hardcore gamer, who generally needs to have his new games at or near release, may always have a problem with mail order, which is one reason online game sales have never taken off. Twogood, who also sells games, reports that he has sold very few titles outright. Moreover, games arriving as expected has quickly become the most common issue for his customer support. Being in Denver, TriggerFingers shipments usually take a few days to reach most destinations already, and the company is considering trying priority shipping. The Brothers Twogood are beginning to discover what consumers want from this sort of service - generally timely deliveries and accurate information about what titles are becoming available and when.

Another twist on this model might be rent-to-own. If members keep the same game out for an extended period, Triggerfingers offers them a buy-out option so that they can keep the title. Only open since February, and with only one taker of the offer, TriggerFingers has limited experience with this idea, but it may be worth considering for game rentals at all venues. If price remains one of gamers' universal concerns about gaming, then experiments like these are worth monitoring.

Ultimately, online rentals will most likely be a niche play at best, but it could also be an interesting laboratory for testing new pricing models, marketing older game titles, and marketing to narrower audience segments.

Contacts: Matt and Chris Twogood, 303/755-1522

[Copyright 2003 PBI Media, LLC. All rights reserved.]

Electronic Gaming Business, Vol. 1, No. 9 [Copyright 2003 PBI Media, LLC. All rights reserved.]

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Bet,
for me it's not going to make any difference..But I also wanted learn the answer of this..So I called Papa John's Pizza on 828 N Main St..( pretty close)These guys should have been delivering pizzas to this area..

His answer was that 1500's are residential..

GL

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Is this where the new corprate office is. This is all commercial. North of here is residential though.
http://mapsonus.switchboard.com/bin/maps-maponly/usr=~3fe73912.2d3bb .428f.5/c=1/refsrc=SB.newsb/isredir=1/


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here are some opinions for people who have actually used the Veegeez.com service and their competitors.
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=c87847743e12908f&seekm=vu1e1ik2rcrn54%40news.supernews.com&frame=off
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=b558e6d874a05a93&rnum=4

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&th=be32fce81cb913b7&rnum=3



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Raven, you are a smart cookie indeed. Forget Satellite imagery... just call Papa Johns... And you are correct... it doesn't make a difference to the Savy shareholder. We need to cut cost everywhere... and we can see the importance of doing so by reading the article posted by Adrenalix. mach

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for me it's not going to make any difference..But I also wanted learn the answer of this..So I called Papa John's Pizza on 828 N Main St..( pretty close)These guys should have been delivering pizzas to this area..

His answer was that 1500's are residential..

GL



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Mach, I am back on line from my place.


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Mach .. I can see a buying base at these levels to continue the way up to the low 0.04s.
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