How hypocritical of you to deliberately not mention my repeated warnings to readers to avoid this stock because of high risks and high chance of loss of money.
I worked at steering away readers from what has proved to be a total scam designed to steal money from innocent people.
You boys worked at stealing others money.
How dare you present yourself to be a better person than I. Your measure of success is based on how much money you swindle from others.
That is not my standard for success. My standards are much higher, very much higher and a lot harder to achieve with honesty.
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ummm...first of all I never pumped this stock, I bought into a stock that I had a feeling was going up and it did. I had a price target of $4 and when it got there I sold. I merely made a profit which is the name of the game. If it is unethical to make money in the stock market then I guess I am unethical. I will throw out another quote about profit which seems very apropos,I think you will like it.
"Hey, this is about money not about compassion for the victims of hurricanes or tornadoes. Heck, we live with earthquakes and need body armor whiledriving our cars, here in California. We all makechoices and my choice is to make money no matter the source of profit." An excellent quote if you ask me, "make money no matter the source of profit" hmmmmmmmmmm
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ya know, the interesting things to me are apparent contradictions, when apparent contradiction resolves into one coordinate: the opposite of a great truth is not a great lie but another great truth: night/day, love/fear, etc...
there's nothing wrong with making a good play; there's nothing wrong with alerting folks that "The Great Oz" is merely an old guy behind a curtain, pulling levers...
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Clearly I play the runs, the pumps and such. Moreover, like Blue, I play the safe and sane stocks with lower risks.
My habit is to provide both positive points and negative points. My habit is to work at presenting an objective viewpoint.
Nonetheless, I draw a line where my dignity begins. I do not participate in obvious scams because this hurts everyone. By participating in obvious scams, criminals are enabled through assisting their efforts at defrauding the public.
Logic displayed by many, Tex is excluded and I respect his comments, logic is,
"I only attend Ku Klux Klan picnics because the hamburgers are good and the beer is cold."
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As Glass has posted elsewhere similarly, I play stuff I *never* post; occasionally, will chip in a comment if someone happens to find it and creates a thread. Readers may see a comment such as, "Careful, folks--group grope" or something similar. Doesn't mean I'm playing it, doesn't mean I'm *not*... Sometimes with trading friends in private correspondence, I will send message: "Here's one you might like--not for me." And they go on to do well with it. I do no regret my choice, however...
Noticed PRDPonce the other day, sumpin like: "POS, may go here for a bit, though."
To me, that's an honest post.
I remember when Ktrain was calling 'em out on the Daytrader forum. "May go" "Could run" etc. And he was quite blunt, when asked, eg:
"K, what's the chart look like?"
"Chart--you kidding? I'll be out by the time you read a chart"
"K, what's a good pps to get out?"
"Can't help ya, kid--don't hold the baaaaaaaag!"
Clearly, not newbie stuff, or--for that matter--not even for advanced traders of different style/temperament...
The problem arises when folks pool up and group-think takes over. Often these threads attract fresh newbs and beginners--including many who do *not* post. There may be easily one or two good runs--sure, sometimes more--yet weeks after, peeps are still hanging around, wondering about their great company. But the original cheerleaders are long gone, the share structure having been revealed, the dilution discovered, whatever.
Some have made dough here, playing shrewdly. Others have made dough, simply being lucky. Other have lost great percentages, thinking any entry was good and they could merely sit back and watch it go.
When some are repeatedly urging to "stay in" until extremely large gains are made, look to see who's behind the curtain...
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The humorous part of your argument is that you are positive this is a scam...myself and many others look at this as a budding company...only time will tell. I am no longer in this stock so you saying I am pumping it is silly. I have 7 or 8 posts out of 7 pages, none of which say BUY THIS STOCK. I point out price increases, PR's, and say I like the stock. I have as much right to believe in a stock as you do to not believe in it. Honestly, I think this company has a good chance to make it, but I am not smart like you. Some day I might be as smart and ethical as you though...some day...
"You do not pass my standards test, not even close."
Crap...well I guess that's it then....I suck.
Capitalism > Socialism ... I embrace capitalism. For every stock you have made money on someone has lost money...how can you live with yourself. My only point is people should have made money here, if they didnt they should not be in this game. Natural selection weeds out the weak, even in the stock market.
Oh well I am a bad person...a horrible horrible person...shame on me. I'm done, your ability to spew hot air and sit atop your perch is amazing. I commend you for your determination. Was fun thanks!
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It should be stated that here at allstocks things are a bit different than on the other MB's out there. Here there is a true desire to protect the newbies from the many scams in pennyland... This is not really so much an official rule of the board but a creed by a few core members who have been here for a few years. It is widely known that Allstocks is not the best place to pump worthless companies... as CMKX pumpers found out a few years ago... It was this board that was first to bring light onto that scam.
It is true that once in a while a scam stock newbies are warned against does infact run.. it happens... rarely. This does not mean we were wrong about the stock being a scam.. it means supply/demand biased enough towards the demand side that there was upward movement. This could happen for a variety of reasons... but when it does happen you will find that we are quite honest about the reasons.
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imho, this is like vegas. you play your money you take your chances. the SEC regulates the market and sets the rules we have to play by. if you can do a good play, do it. tex's last post is dead on. as we all know, life is'nt fair. the market plays upon the weak and the foolish. if you buy into a "scam" you have the responsiblity to watch every tick with your finger on the exit trigger. if you want guarantees, buy a certificate of deposit or t bill. pg thanks for helping us to see who is behind the curtain.
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PURL GURL you make no sense sweetheart, ghlt was posted here when it was 2.20 or so everybody that bought it between 2-5 made alot of money cause it went up to 9 if you're dumb enough to buy GHLT WHEN IT WAS 8 OR 9 THATS LIKE BUYING GOOGLE when it hit 400 you're going to lose money the name of the game is by low sell high
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I guess from next time anyone posts, they should fix a price target, have a disclaimer saying they dont know anything about the company and request newbies not to buy the stock ..
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: when i post picks? i generally try to post picks that others can get 20% on... this means i am looking for stuff that has 40% on it...
how would you know others can get 20% profit???? Genius definitely if you can predict how much of a run your stock might have .. also, the person who had entered last and made that % profit of yours to 40, would be a bagholder once the price drops right? and he definitely is the one whom i guess everyone posting here is concerned about. so i think either people should request the "last buyer" not to buy the stock so he doesnt become a bag holder or say, I dont care about the last buyer, i am out with my profits. now thats an irony right.. anyway most of us know the game, and the person who doesnt learns it pretty fast hard way!..
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purl gurl's post is dead on. remember this every time you purchase a stock, especially a pinkie. carefully calculate the odds of getting your money back from the mm's and the thieves against the odds of making a profits. if after carefully considering the above, if you are willing to assume the risk and assume the responsibility for your decisions, proceed. if this is not for you, consider a safer vehicle to put your money in like the bank. if you pick up on something and make a profit, i respect that. if all there was to this was looking at a stock message board, look at the title of a thread, buy the stock on the title, and get rich, this would be a great life and we would all be at the pool by 10 a.m.. thank god for those that keep pointing out to us how perilious playing with pinkies can be !
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66, recently I broke one of my rules which is to never bring in high risk stocks. However, this one was too tempting and a sure bet.
TCLL was primed for very fast day trading. Some here made very good profits in a matter of a few hours; in and out.
I did advise readers, repeatedly, of risks. I urged those not familiar with day trading to stay out. Some comfort on my part knowing TCLL would not crash and will eventually rise in share price.
Very rare will I bring in such risks.
Ironically, others made profits and I am still holding a small empty bag. No problem because profits will come later, for me.
My point on GHLT is risks are obvious and GHLT is an obvious scam. This one, none should touch it.
Real point is when traders participate in scams like GHLT, those traders are assisting the crooks. Those traders are enabling the crooks. Those traders are helping the scam to be a success and this GHLT is one of the best operated scams in recent history.
Crooks walked away with tons of money. Those crooks will use some of that money to start up another scam, then another, then another...
Helping crooks for the sake of personal profit is way wrong. This hurts everyone. Yes, a lot of money is made playing along with scams but look at how much damage is done, now and into the future.
This type of activity is simply unethical and no matter the argument, this will not change.
Call it for what it is, prostituting your dignity for lust of money.
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pg, your point is well taken. i have had TCLL on radar since you pointed it out, but have not purchased any at this point. GHLT, AURC, and NDOL are all scams with sizable dilution going on IMHO. i read all of your posts carefully and appreciate your insight. you saved my butt with one of your posts on PGPM a couple of months ago. your posts have been a great help as we trod through this minefield of penny stocks.
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TCLL, I think traders are waiting until quarter end and a 10Q to learn if those profits will be repeated. If so, if similar profits are reported, TCLL "should" skyrocket. Will not be too long before quarter reports start coming out.
"your posts have been a great help...."
No, _our_ posts are a great help. Lots of well experienced traders here who lend a lot of help for all. I cannot take credit. This is a team effort by good people, which includes you.
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For my girlfriends out there, lots of good people here giving good advice. However, watch out for that Tex guy; he will talk you right out of your spurs and chaps.
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thanks pg, props to you, too. if we can keep people in touch with the realities of the market and let them know the consequences of how easy it is to lose their money, everyone will gain.
i read and reread these boards and appreciate the openness of this board. its too bad that everyone can't make money on the market, but that just isn't the reality of it. GLTA
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Yeah, I would love to watch everyone make good money. This is not the way the game works, though.
I do rag on crooks a lot. I really do not like those people. Nonetheless, each of us do have larceny in our hearts and minds.
You know I would be lying if I claimed my only goal is to help people. My goal is to help and make money. Together, as a team, we can work some of these plays. We, here at Allstocks, can make reasonable profits without placing too many readers at risk.
We keep the playing field level yet know we are not playing on a level playing field; we hope the field tilts in our direction.
My estimate is for every one winner person there are ten loser persons. We are, without argument, taking other people's money. Most often, those people continue on to make their profits, although more modest. Some, in all honesty, are left holding the empty bag; we have their money.
I might not like that but this is the way the game operates; winners and losers.
However, we play by the rules. We are playing to win through good sportsmanship. This does legitimize our efforts to take others money.
Reminds me of a story. (Oh crap, here we go again)
Relax! Every watch the really old movie about Nevada Smith? Stars Steve McQueen (swoons) and Suzanne Pleshette (swoons again).
A gal, I think Pleshette, have not watch the movie since teen years, so a gal seduces a cowboy out in a barn. He is shy, not sure, so she lends a hand. Straps him down to a saddle stand, bent over and naked, has on her spurs and riding crop in hand. She jumps on him like riding a horse, which she does, rides a horse with two legs, a very wild ride!
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Purl Girl if you don't like a stock couldn't you just state that instead of accusing people that do buy into it of being crooks. That is really going overboard. I find your judgement of others to be very offensive. You're supposed to be judging the stock/company not the people who post. I suppose you think anyone that plays the lottery is a crook. There is usually just one winner and the others are out their money? No matter which stock you buy someone has lost money on it at one time or another. If a company doesn't check out to your satisfaction just state that and be done with it. As a newbie I am not interested in your ethicial calls just the merits of a stock.
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Purl Gurl you are the typical bully that likes to try and beat people down with your mouth. When you attack other people in the manner you do it totally takes away from any creditability you are trying to achieve. Stick to stock/company facts and drop the personal ethical slams. You are correct on one point your blunt honesty is offensive at least you got that right.
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You only wish you had my eyes....that and much more. Creditability extends much further than a credit rating. You don't have it and probably never will. What you have is a big mouth and a bully attitude.
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