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new bill in NY state:

exact wording:


S 240.33 AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER.
A PERSON IS GUILTY OF AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR
PEACE OFFICER WHEN, WITH THE INTENT TO HARASS, ANNOY, THREATEN OR ALARM
A PERSON WHOM HE OR SHE KNOWS OR REASONABLY SHOULD KNOW TO BE A POLICE
OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER ENGAGED IN THE COURSE OF PERFORMING HIS OR HER
OFFICIAL DUTIES, HE OR SHE STRIKES, SHOVES, KICKS OR OTHERWISE SUBJECTS
SUCH PERSON TO PHYSICAL CONTACT.
AGGRAVATED HARASSMENT OF A POLICE OFFICER OR PEACE OFFICER IS A CLASS
E FELONY.
S 2. This act shall take effect on the first of November next succeed-
ing the date on which it shall have become a law.

http://open.nysenate.gov/legislation/bill/S2402-2013

note the use of the word annoy...

my dog annoys me when he barks at the neighbors car door slamming... is that the same use of th eword in this law?

the US i was born into is collapsing. annoy a cop and you are a felon? we are going to need quite a few more jails ...

is refusal to comply with an illegal search annoying to cops? you bet it is...

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"terrorism" is working:

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/06/no_surprise_says_nsa_whistleblower_thomas_drake/

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quote:
Originally posted by T e x:
"terrorism" is working:

http://www.salon.com/2013/06/06/no_surprise_says_nsa_whistleblower_thomas_drake/

it is...

SCOTUS just found that taking DNA sample is not 'invasive' or protected under the 5th too..

and look a the split in the Judges.. it is insane..

The Supreme Court on Monday upheld the police practice of taking DNA samples from people who have been arrested but not convicted of a crime, ruling that it amounts to the 21st century version of fingerprinting.

The ruling was 5-4. Justice Antonin Scalia, a conservative, joined three of the court’s more liberal members — Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor and Elena Kagan — in dissenting.


the oddest part of all this is that so-called conservative judges are supposed to be against this sor tof thing and so-clled 'liberals" are suppsedly for this type of thing..

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that law in NY will basically allow cops to search you because you annoyed them by refusing to allow them to search you.. is the irony of this lost on the average Citizen?

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Politics

What You Should Know About The Government’s Massive Domestic Surveillance Program

By Igor Volsky on Jun 6, 2013 at 9:29 am


The Guardian newspaper revealed on Wednesday night that the National Security Administration (NSA) is collecting information about the telephone records of millions of Americans through a warrant obtained in a secret court under authority granted in the Patriot Act. This is the first public confirmation that widespread surveillance of Americans, initiated under President George W. Bush in the aftermath of the World Trade Center attacks, has continued under the Obama administration. The program captures phone numbers and other information, but not the content of the conversations.

Warrantless surveillance began shortly after the September 2001 terrorist attacks. The Bush administration began a secret surveillance program in 2001, asking AT&T, Verizon and BellSouth to turn over communications records to the National Security Agency (NSA). The agency’s goal was “to create a database of every call ever made” within the nation’s borders, the USA Today reported in 2006.

Program fell under court supervision in 2007. Following public uproar, the administration placed the program under the surveillance of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). In 2008, Congress expanded the Act to allow both foreign and domestic surveillance “as long as the intent is to gather foreign intelligence.” The measure also provided “retroactive immunity to the telecom companies that assisted the Bush administration.”

Congress extended the law through 2017. In December of 2012, Congress voted to reauthorize The FISA Amendments Act until 2017. The Act “allows federal agencies to eavesdrop on communications and review email” with a warrant from the secret FISA court. Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), a critic of the program, offered an amendment during floor debate that would have required the NSA disclose an estimate of how often information on Americans was collected and require authorities to obtain a warrant if they wish to search for private information in the NSA databases. In a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, Wyden, along with Sen. Mark Udall (D-CO), wrote, “We believe most Americans would be stunned to learn the details of how these secret court opinions have interpreted section 215 of the Patriot Act.” Wyden and Udall also noted that the administration promised August 2009 to establish “a regular process for reviewing, redacting and releasing significant opinions” of the court, though “not a single redacted opinion has been released.”

What the Verizon order says. The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court ordered Verizon — which has 121 million customers — to turn over metadata “on an ongoing daily basis” for a three-month period between April 25, 2013 and July 19, 2013. The order does not require Verizon to turn over the content of the calls, but it must share information about the numbers dialed, received and length of call.

What civil libertarians say. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) criticized the administration’s order, noting that “From a civil liberties perspective, the program could hardly be any more alarming.” “It’s a program in which some untold number of innocent people have been put under the constant surveillance of government agents,” Jameel Jaffer, the ACLU’s deputy legal director, said in a statement. Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-OR) also criticized the order. “This bulk data collection is being done under interpretations of the law that have been kept secret from the public,” he said. “Significant FISA court opinions that determine the scope of our laws should be declassified. Can the FBI or the NSA really claim that they need data scooped up on tens of millions of Americans?”

What the Patriot Act says. The order falls under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, which allows the government to make broad demands on telephone carriers for information about calls. Under the law, the government isn’t required to show probable cause, but rather, “there are reasonable grounds to believe” that the tangible things sought are “relevant to an authorized investigation . . . to obtain foreign intelligence information. . . or to protect against international terrorism or clandestine intelligence activities.” An expert told the Washington Post that the order “appears to be a routine renewal of a similar order first issued by the same court in 2006.” The order is apparently “reissued routinely every 90 days and that it is not related to any particular investigation by the FBI or any other agency.”

How the government is responding. The White House responded to the Guardian story by insisting that the data is a “critical tool in protecting the nation from terrorist threats to the United States.” “It allows counter terrorism personnel to discover whether known or suspected terrorists have been in contact with other persons who may be engaged in terrorist activities, particularly people located inside the United States,” an official said. Officials say they will investigate the source of the leak to the Guardian.


Update


During a press conference, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) said that the order the Guardian obtained is “the exact three-month renewal” of program underway for the past seven years. “It’s called protecting America,” she said. Asked if other phone companies are giving similar data to NSA, the senators said, “We can’t answer that.”


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Lets face it we are going to be in for a rough ride soon . Just heard on the news this morning that Detroit is going bankrupt not maybe it is going to happen soon. And they are talking about stripping the poor of every thing. And also all the retired city workers and currently employed city workers get ready for massive cuts. I say get ready for a lot of civil disobedience.

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Ray still blaming everything on Bush. Obama is just like Bush, but Ray doesnt see that. He has had the kool aid and he likes it.


Did some of us not tell this board that Obama would be like this? Remember in 2007-2008 all that change, hope, transparency, and Obama said he would go after government agencies who were spying on people? Now he is doing it twice the size of Bush.

Ray you are just flat out an idiot for believing all this crap this admin is feeding you.

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i don't think it's twice as much as under Bush cashcow..
Obama has nothing to do with th law i started this thread with..

the IRS thing? that's not tied to Obama yet..

most of this was going n under Bush too. it would be worse under Clinton, and seeing as how Romney was a banker? i beleive we can assume it would even worse under him...

McCain? have you listened to his rantings lately? he's almost as anti-gun as ray and Obama are..


it's all these 'wars' that aren't wars... the media feeds this monster then acts like they are doing us a favor when they complain ...

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IRS Politicization Comes In Many Forms

Revelations that the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) — in the run-up to last year's presidential election — purposefully delayed processing applications for tax-exempt status from politically conservative groups, pried unnecessarily into their internal affairs and singled out Tea Party activists and donors for tax audits has produced a firestorm of righteous indignation.

The furor is understandable given the popular view that the IRS is a neutral nonpartisan agency with no particular agenda other than collecting taxes.

But nothing could be further from the truth.

As Michael Scherer noted recently in Time magazine, the IRS has been used frequently since World War II to harass and intimidate political organizations.

Under President John F. Kennedy, for example, the IRS had a program known as the "Ideological Organizations Project," which was used to investigate right-wing groups.

President Richard Nixon famously compiled his "enemies list," using the IRS to microscopically examine the tax returns of mainly left-wing antiwar groups and activists.

According to a 1997 book, "Unbridled Power: Inside the Political Culture of the IRS," a super-secret "Special Services Staff" created within the IRS in response to Nixon's directive eventually targeted 11,000 private individuals and organizations for politically inspired tax audits.

The IRS also has been known to go easy on friends of the White House and powerful members of Congress. According to the same book, the head of the IRS's Chicago office intervened in 1979 to prevent local agents from auditing the tax return of a staffer working for then-Rep. Frank Annunzio.

In a 2001 peer-reviewed article I wrote — with Michael Reksulak of Georgia Southern University and Marilyn Young of Lipscomb University — for the journal Economics & Politics, we found a statistically significant pattern of abuse.

First, we assembled a dataset consisting of blind information (meaning we had no access to names, Social Security numbers or any personal information) on all individual income tax returns filed from 1992 through 1997 across the IRS's 33 geographically defined districts.

Our examination of the data showed a disturbing pattern. In addition to the usual criteria the IRS uses to screen returns for closer attention, such as individuals reporting income from self-employment or claiming unusually large deductions or tax credits, the data showed that tax returns were significantly less likely to be audited if the taxpayer lived in a district that was politically important to the sitting president or was represented by a member of Congress serving on a committee with IRS oversight responsibility.

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posted by glassman

McCain? have you listened to his rantings lately? he's almost as anti-gun as ray and Obama are..
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McCain because he wants background checks he is anti gun?

You getting a little paranoid glass or maybe you have a criminal past or a commercial reason for not wanting background checks.

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posted by cash cow

Ray you are just flat out an idiot for believing all this crap this admin is feeding you.

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OH, and IMO? the IRS thing was "payback" for the ACORN thing...

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quote:
Originally posted by raybond:
posted by glassman

McCain? have you listened to his rantings lately? he's almost as anti-gun as ray and Obama are..
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McCain because he wants background checks he is anti gun?

You getting a little paranoid glass or maybe you have a criminal past or a commercial reason for not wanting background checks.

lighten up ray... i was just messing with you.. sheesh guys, it may be the end of the world, but i am still going to try to enjoy as much of it as i can [Wink]

besides? i m right arne't i? you and Mccain do agree, right?

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as to the NSA? they've been downloading all our chit for years... this isn't even news.

the only thing that has changed is how they act on it.

in th epast? it was not legally allowed as evidence... now? i dunno, since we don't even know what the court is doing anymore, it's all hush hush...

thte internet has always been an open window from you and to you.. if you want privacy? unplug your internet connections...
this stuff the Chinese have stolen form US? i can't beleive these fools put it all on servers to begin with.... there is no such thing as truly secure internet connection. it doesn't exist, and NEVER has.. antyhign a human can buld? a hman can decosntruct, and the Chin dynasty has always been a great deconstructor-
they will probably be the hardware suppliers to NSA in the near future anyway, IF they already aren't... [BadOne]

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apparently DHS and police and even school districts are running "simulations" of events all over thecoutnry and all the time now...

it was only a few weeks ago that the incdent where fake gunmen took teachers by surpirse in Oregon, and now there is this:

DETROIT (WJBK) -

An FBI agent almost shot a Detroit cop on Wednesday at a gas station while filling up. It wasn't the agent or the cop's fault. It was the cop's bosses, who came up with the lame brain idea to simulate a purse snatching and then invite a TV crew to film your reaction Detroit. The immediate supervisor of these cops had no idea this was happening until they called him.

"The event takes place. The officer takes the purse, runs around the gas station. As he's running, an off-duty FBI agent is pumping gas. He witnesses the whole thing. He gives chase. He pulls his weapon, and as he turns the corner around the gas station, he's stopped by another officer, who identifies herself as a police officer and don't shoot, don't shoot, this is a scenario," said Inspector Shawn Gargalino with the Detroit Police Department.


http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/22527213/leduff-detroit-polices-simulated-purs e-snatching-goes-awry#.UbHfTayfeNM.facebook#ixzz2VZ7po6sz

what are all these people thinking? DHS is conducting much larger drills involving dozens and even hundreds of law enforcement almost daily all over the country in public places. what are we getting ready for again?

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http://www.allstocks.com/html/us_constitution.html

Read the US Constitution

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quote:
Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
Ray still blaming everything on Bush. Obama is just like Bush, but Ray doesnt see that. He has had the kool aid and he likes it.


Did some of us not tell this board that Obama would be like this? Remember in 2007-2008 all that change, hope, transparency, and Obama said he would go after government agencies who were spying on people? Now he is doing it twice the size of Bush.

Ray you are just flat out an idiot for believing all this crap this admin is feeding you.

Secretly it's killing Liberals to have Obama in office...remember the quote be careful what you wish for, well they got it and now have to constantly defend policies everyone knows they hate....ever notice the tactic of never addressing the policy just attacking anyone who dare question the supreme ruler?

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that's the 'problem" with having a President. They all drink the koolaid (as cashcow puts it), it's in the job description.

just remember that ten percent of all the presidents have been killed in office.

Tolkein was right, the ring of power corrupts, and noone is immune. Thats why we set this coutnry up withthree branches of govenrmnt that are SUPPOSED to be competing with other for power over each other...

all these "wars" give each group their rally cry to take and hold more power tho.... we have not actually declared war officially since WW2, but we have been in about ten "conflcits" and a war on drugs and a war on terror since then... that's how the koolaid gets drunken...

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it is insteresting that the two longest "conflicts" we've been in are the two places where drugs rule the economics- the Nam and Afghanistan both were/are about opium- the Taliban executed opium traffickers on the spot when they were in charge... think about it..

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"Do you remember how enthusiastic people were about having a president who once taught constitutional law? I guess we’ve learned a lesson. "

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quote:
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it is insteresting that the two longest "conflicts" we've been in are the two places where drugs rule the economics- the Nam and Afghanistan both were/are about opium- the Taliban executed opium traffickers on the spot when they were in charge... think about it..

108000 Private Contractors Are in Afghanistan and We Have No Idea What Theyre Doing

Two recently released reports, one by the Congressional Research Service (CRS) and one by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), show that not only is the number of private contractors in Afghanistan increasing, but the Pentagon is also unable to tell what they are even doing there. Citing the reports, David Francis of the Fiscal Times points out that there are now 108,000 private contractors in Afghanistan (over 30,000 of whom are Americans), far more than the 65,700 U.S. troops still there,and the number was counted at 110,404 last month. That amounts to 1.6 contractors, roughly 18,000 of which are private security contractors, for every American soldier.

Although the U.S. presence in Afghanistan is ostensibly winding down towards an eventual handover to Afghan security forces, as Francis argues, "the increase in the contractors to troop ratio is yet another indication that although the vast majority of troops are leaving Afghanistan, a private army will remain in the country for years."

http://www.policymic.com/articles/46621/108-000-private-contractors-are-in-afgha nistan-and-we-have-no-idea-what-they-re-doing

watch this one it's prolly not what you think;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkRIbUT6u7Q

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if you like that one? you'll love this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

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IRS Staff Undermine GOP Claims That White House Directed Targeting Of Conservative Groups, Top Democrat Says

By Igor Volsky on Jun 9, 2013 at 9:58 am


Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-MD) — the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee — pledged to release transcripts of interviews with Internal Revenue Service (IRS) officials that Republicans insist demonstrate that the agency’s targeting of conservative groups applying for 501(c)(4) status was directed by the Obama administration.

Cummings made the remarks on CNN’s State of the Union, a week after Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA) appeared on the program and insinuated that the White House directed IRS agents to single out tea party and patriot groups for additional scrutiny. Issa has refused to provide evidence that substantiate that claim.

“I wrote Chairman Issa on Thursday and I wrote to him this morning. I want those transcripts to be released,” Cummings said. “I’m willing to come on your show next week with the chairman with the transcripts if he agrees to do that. If he doesn’t, I’ll release them by the end of the week.”

Cummings insisted that the interviews will prove that “the White House was not involved in this,” pointing out that the Cincinnati IRS manager of the screening group, a career veteran at the agency who identified himself as Republican, told investigators that Washington did not direct the targeting. “I do not believe that the screening of these cases had anything to do other than consistency and identifying issues that needed to have further development,” the individual told investigators according to portion of the transcripts released by the Democratic staff on the House Oversight Committee.

Rather, the scrutiny began in 2010, after an IRS screener identified a tea party group applying for nonprofit status as “high profile” and asked his boss, the conservative Republican, for additional guidance. That individual, Cummings said, sent the case to the Washington technical office so that it can be treated consistently.

“Based upon everything I’ve seen the case is solved,” Cummings said. “And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on to be frank with you.”

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while all the "liberals" (not a definition just a label) complain about individual violence? this is the show the US Govt is puttin' on in downtown LA:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TlY_b4VEnY

blished on Jun 10, 2013

LOS ANGELES, CA -- An extravagant terror drill was demonstrated in front of 1,800 attendees of the National Homeland Security Association's conference. Guests from around the world came to marvel at the use of militarized law enforcement.

Gunfire echoed through downtown Los Angeles, bombs exploded, and helicopters swooped low among office towers in a demonstrated response to a weapon-of-mass-destruction threat.

The late-morning demonstration began with an explosion of flash grenades, officers firing blank ammunition at pretend suspects, and police rappelling out of a county Sheriff's Department helicopter and onto a hotel bridge on Figueroa Street.

The drill took place on Thursday, June 6, 2013. The demonstration was performed by the Los Angeles Police Department and SWAT team, and funded by the federal government through grants designed to militarize local police departments.




seriously, you think this promotes good mental health?

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U.S. State Department Cover-Ups Range From Prostitution Charges to Drug Rings

Uncovered documents show the U.S. State Department may have covered up allegations of illegal behavior ranging from sexual assaults to an underground drug ring.

CBS News reports that is has unearthed documents from the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS), an internal watchdog agency, that implicate the State Department in a series of misconducts worldwide.

The memo, reported by CBS News’ John Miller, cited eight specific examples, including allegations that a State Department security official in Beirut “engaged in sexual assaults” with foreign nationals hired as embassy guards and the charge and that members of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s security detail “engaged prostitutes while on official trips in foreign countries” — a problem the report says was “endemic.”

Former State Department internal investigator Aurelia Fedenisn told CBS News, “We also uncovered several allegations of criminal wrongdoing in cases, some of which never became cases.”

In one such cover-up, investigators were told to stop probing the case of a U.S. ambassador who was suspected of patronizing prostitutes in a public park. The memo states that the ambassador was permitted to return to his post despite having, “routinely ditched…his protective security detail” in order to “solicit sexual favors from prostitutes.”


http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/06/10/cbs-news-u-s-state-department-cover-up s-range-from-prostitution-charges-to-drug-rings/

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“routinely ditched…his protective security detail” in order to “solicit sexual favors from prostitutes.”

i wonder cashcow- as you have been complaining so loudly about the Amabssador killed last year and the supposed cover-up- did it ever occur to you that this was the real reason he was not in his emabssy with the Marines protecting him? It occured to me immediatley thathe may have been on a tryst that nobdy wanted to admit to. I gave him the benefit of the doubt and guessed that he was meeting with a covert agent or operative, but it may have been as simple as meeting with a pro...

one other thing? i was an enlisted int he Navy. none of this is the least bit surprising or shocking or even unusual based on my experinces. it ain't right, but it ain't newsworhty- most every base i was ever at had woorking women waiting right outside the gates, even the ones int eh US..

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Ur tax dollars at work in Ohio,the cops in Ohio just got 'em a new toy and htey decided to make a commercial about it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6foDFXs1uyU

why do the cops all lool soldiers now? is there soemthing thye aren't telling us?

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it's like the streets are one big movie set now to some of these people... but the bullets are real:

Cleveland punishes 12 officers in deadly chase

Cleveland's police chief said one supervisor was fired, two were demoted and nine were suspended for their roles in a November chase in which officers fired 137 shots and killed a fleeing driver and his passenger.

CLEVELAND — Cleveland police fired a sergeant and meted out demotions and suspensions Tuesday for a car chase last year that involved five dozen cruisers, 137 rounds of ammunition fired by 13 officers, and the death of two people who, it turned out, were probably unarmed.

A captain and lieutenant were demoted, and nine sergeants got suspensions ranging from one day to 30 days. They and the fired sergeant will appeal their punishment, according to Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 8, which represents police supervisors.

Dozens of cruisers became involved in the chase without permission from superiors and with little direction, according to a state report released earlier in the year. The episode damaged the department's relationship with residents and must be repaired, Chief Michael McGrath said at a news conference Tuesday.

"That means we have to work a little harder on our end," he said.


http://news.msn.com/us/cleveland-punishes-12-officers-in-deadly-chase

the amazing part of this is "probably unarmed"...

i can't belive nobody even had a drop peice to "arm them" after the fact....

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quote:
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it's like the streets are one big movie set now to some of these people... but the bullets are real:

Cleveland punishes 12 officers in deadly chase

Cleveland's police chief said one supervisor was fired, two were demoted and nine were suspended for their roles in a November chase in which officers fired 137 shots and killed a fleeing driver and his passenger.

CLEVELAND — Cleveland police fired a sergeant and meted out demotions and suspensions Tuesday for a car chase last year that involved five dozen cruisers, 137 rounds of ammunition fired by 13 officers, and the death of two people who, it turned out, were probably unarmed.

A captain and lieutenant were demoted, and nine sergeants got suspensions ranging from one day to 30 days. They and the fired sergeant will appeal their punishment, according to Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 8, which represents police supervisors.

Dozens of cruisers became involved in the chase without permission from superiors and with little direction, according to a state report released earlier in the year. The episode damaged the department's relationship with residents and must be repaired, Chief Michael McGrath said at a news conference Tuesday.

"That means we have to work a little harder on our end," he said.


http://news.msn.com/us/cleveland-punishes-12-officers-in-deadly-chase

the amazing part of this is "probably unarmed"...

i can't belive nobody even had a drop peice to "arm them" after the fact....

Oh the ol drop piece trick. Gotta wonder how many times that has been used and never questioned.

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Posted: 06/14/2013
Last Updated: 7 hours ago


SAN DIEGO - A police mistake turned a lunch date into a nightmare for a local couple, and a judge ruled officers illegally detained them.

"I was hurt. I was confused. I didn't know what was going on," said Dante Harrell.

For Harrell, that March day in 2010 began as a day of relaxation. He, his fiancee Shannon Robinson and a friend were headed to brunch in City Heights.

After they pulled into the restaurant, a San Diego police patrol car, right behind them, parked and blocked a potential exit.

Harrell said one of the officers approached them, admitted to typing in the wrong letter during a routine license plate check, but wanted to check them out anyway.

Harrell said after repeated questioning and about 15 minutes of waiting, he asked Robinson to call 911 to ask for a supervisor because something didn't feel right.

He said he heard one officer says this: "He says, 'They're on the phone with our supervisor. Isn't that childish? I'm about to OC them."

"OC" is another word for pepper spray.

Harrell said he held on to his fiancee as he was pepper sprayed and then tasered repeatedly, before he and Robinson were dragged out of the car.

In a civil ruling, a judge decided the couple was illegally detained and Robinson was unlawfully arrested.

Attorney Julia Yoo, who represents Harrell and Robinson, said, "They didn't have a right to continue that stop. Once you realize you've made a mistake and pulled over innocent people, you don't have a right to further interrogate them. It's unconstitutional. This needs to be stopped, because it could happen to anybody."


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Glass, this will get you're Jiffy hat a poppin!

June 19th, 2013
02:10 PM ET
FBI uses drones in U.S., says Mueller
By Carol Cratty

FBI Director Robert Mueller acknowledged the law enforcement agency uses drone aircraft in the United States for surveillance in certain difficult cases.

Mueller told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday that drones are used by the FBI in a "very, very minimal way and very seldom."

He did not say how many drones the FBI has or how often they have been used.

A federal law enforcement official said the aircraft have been used for surveillance in hostage situations and also when suspects have taken refuge behind barricades.

"We use it sparingly in dangerous situations where the risk to agents lives are at stake," the official told CNN.

Sen. Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, asked Mueller whether the FBI had guidelines for using drones that would consider the "privacy impact on American citizens."

Mueller replied the agency was in the initial stages of developing them.

"I will tell you that our footprint is very small," he said.

Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein expressed concern over drone use domestically.

"I think the greatest threat to the privacy of Americans is the drone and the use of the drone, and the very few regulations that are on it today and the booming industry of commercial drones," the California Democrat said.

Mueller said he would need to check on the bureau's policy for retaining images from drones and report back to the panel.

"It is very narrowly focused on particularized cases and particularized needs and particularized cases," said Mueller. "And that is the principal privacy limitations we have."

Members of Congress and privacy advocates have pressed for regulations on the use of drones.

Targeting Americans with lethal force in counterterror operations overseas was a controversy that flared publicly during confirmation hearings for CIA Director John Brennan earlier this year.

Senators aggressively sought the administration's legal reasoning for those operations.

Some lawmakers were critical of the practice and questions were raised about whether drones might ever be used against U.S. citizens suspected of terrorism who were on American soil.

Sen. Rand Paul, a Kentucky Republican, staged a filibuster in March over the issue.

Attorney General Eric Holder told Paul in a letter that said in part, "the U.S. government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so."


http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/06/19/fbi-uses-drones-in-u-s-says-mueller/?hp t=hp_t2

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why would i care? i been working on some drone technology for awhile myself... but i can't tell ya what it is other than it does involve glass.... you know, patent secrets and all that [Wink]

i rarely agree with Feinstein;
Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Dianne Feinstein expressed concern over drone use domestically.

as far as i am concerened? if you can see it from a plane? what makes it different from a drone?
i got crop dusters flying over my place from 6AM on whenever the weather allows, cuz they almost alwys have soemthing that needs spraying and their arifeild is less than mile from me...

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drone strikes in the usa? now that would be aproblem dontcha think?

as amatter of fact if you don;t have a problem with that? you are unAmerican [Wink]

that might be a real "trigger" for significant social unrest...

is my hat shiny enough forya now?

Over all, there are now more people under “correctional supervision” in America—more than six million—than were in the Gulag Archipelago under Stalin at its height. That city of the confined and the controlled, Lockuptown, is now the second largest in the United States.
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2012/01/30/120130crat_atlarge_gopn ik

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this should make you completely forget any notions that am the least bit paranoid pagan;

Skynet rising: Google acquires 512-qubit quantum computer; NSA surveillance to be turned over to AI machines

Thursday, June 20, 2013
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)
Tags: Skynet, quantum computing, D-Wave Systems


(NaturalNews) Most people don't know about the existence of quantum computers. Almost no one understands how they work, but theories include bizarre-sounding explanations like, "they reach into alternate universes to derive the correct answers to highly complex computational problems."

Quantum computers are not made of simple transistors and logic gates like the CPU on your PC. They don't even function in ways that seem rational to a typical computing engineer. Almost magically, quantum computers take logarithmic problems and transform them into "flat" computations whose answers seem to appear from an alternate dimension.

For example, a mathematical problem that might have 2 to the power of n possible solutions -- where n is a large number like 1024 -- might take a traditional computer longer than the age of the universe to solve. A quantum computer, on the other hand, might solve the same problem in mere minutes because it quite literally operates across multiple dimensions simultaneously.

The ultimate code breakers
If you know anything about encryption, you probably also realize that quantum computers are the secret KEY to unlocking all encrypted files. As I wrote about last year here on Natural News, once quantum computers go into widespread use by the NSA, the CIA, Google, etc., there will be no more secrets kept from the government. All your files -- even encrypted files -- will be easily opened and read.

Until now, most people believed this day was far away. Quantum computing is an "impractical pipe dream," we've been told by scowling scientists and "flat Earth" computer engineers. "It's not possible to build a 512-qubit quantum computer that actually works," they insisted.

Don't tell that to Eric Ladizinsky, co-founder and chief scientist of a company called D-Wave. Because Ladizinsky's team has already built a 512-qubit quantum computer. And they're already selling them to wealthy corporations, too.

DARPS, Northrup Grumman and Goldman Sachs
In case you're wondering where Ladizinsky came from, he's a former employee of Northrup Grumman Space Technology (yes, a weapons manufacturer) where he ran a multi-million-dollar quantum computing research project for none other than DARPA -- the same group working on AI-driven armed assault vehicles and battlefield robots to replace human soldiers. DARPA is the group behind the creepy "Legged Squad Support System" you can see in the following video:


http://www.naturalnews.com/040859_Skynet_quantum_computing_D-Wave_Systems.html#i xzz2Wmerc88m

on the other end of this? the human brain is ALSO a Quantum computer. all molecuals and atoms exhcange light (quanta of light actually) within themselves at all times... you never see it because they don't tranmsi tht elight until you add anothe quanta of light to them, whihc they then emit to your eye... ignore the bizzare mutli-dimensioanl stuff. it's simply light quanta echange (commonly misrepresented as photons) photons DO NOT EXIST [Wink]

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