quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Good bye Obama!
Think it will be a bit closer than you think glass. Though he prolly will get another 4. Unfortunately. The younger generations need to step up and learn to take more care of themselves.
closer than tie? even tho i have come across here as a democrat suppporter for years? i have historically voted GOP in ratio of 6 to 2.. the two times i voted dem were becuase of the war in Iraq alone..... as i get older? i realise that i want to vote against all incumbents because they have doen such crappy job. i wanted t vote for romney, i could have voted for the Romeny that became Governor of mass and been proud to say i supported such a GOP... i find the romney of today to be a cheap panderer... Obama? no mater whether youlike him or not? you have to admit that he actaully stands FOR something and has worked to acheive what he stands for... no, i do not agree with alot of what he stands for, but at least he isn't groveling for votes-
i mean this with all sincerity... considering how bad things are? Romney should be able to win with 5% margins, and ht efact that he canot get hose margins indicates more about him and his character than it does about about Obama at all...
Dems have a slight number lead in the US, GOP's look to control much more LAND than Dems, the red and blue maps are not a good indciator of how the coutnry really looks politically.
the criticisms of Obama by the GOP over the last three years have all been touchy feely BS. The real wrong things that Obama is guilty of doing are almost never mentioned, and that is because the GOP would do the exact same things he ahs done in his shoes...
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well cash, based on Fla counts right now? i don't think Romeny stands a chance, it ain' ove just yet, but I counted FLA for romeny and romeny is 20,000 behind with few precincts left that he can win...
i am going to sit back and watch FOX news cuz it'll be fun to see them announce that they lost...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: yeah, the finger pointing at Fox has already started....
hopefully? the GOP is going to get this message loud and clear.... if they don't? Hillary WILL be the first woman president in 2016
Well this isnt looking good, but there are still a lot of votes left coming in. Indiana lost a Republican senator that really wasnt planned. Of course Todd Akin loses, and the funny thing is how many votes he still got. Ohio and Florida have me a little nervous.
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what exactly is worng with obama care cash?
i told you here before Obma got elected that even tho I do NOT want govt health care, that it will make US employer more competitive on the world market... and it will... i want to be able to buy my own which will defintiley be better, but we need poor people to have a basic health care system...
the lies they told about obamcare didn;t work..
also remebr it was Romenycare before it obamcare, and Romeny siad it was Conservitiv principle that made him do it. people shuld be forced to pay their own wa.. in otehr words buy insuracne or pay a fine (tax? whatever)
i am really enjoying watching rove trying to find a way to win after he lost... Obama doesnt even need Ohio anymore, carl go home and get drunk..
Obam doesnt need florida or ohio if gets Colorado... i think maybe a iwant to move to Clorado now if they legalise pot.. not because i want to smokee it (i don;t care for it) but becausee ican legally make bongs that cost 1000$ and people will pay that for a bong when they won;t pay it for a vase that is just as good... go figure ...
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It was not put together the right way. It took bribes to pass it, and was concocted without transparency. You need lawyers to read that thing. Passing bills without even reading them. What does that tell you? The ends justify the means when nobody truly knows how the ends will turn out?
I do know something has to be done. I would have a lot of respect for Obama if he said they would revisit the bill and fix what they find to be bad parts of it.
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man i love baklava i eat it all winter long when i can use the calories. my wife makes two sheets at a time, one for everyone to share, and one just for me....
i cna't stand the kind with rosewater tho...just honey for me... i might ask her to use maple syrup in one this winter...
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even tho he lost? he can't admit it... now he's trying to make it about the margin... he says Obama won the batttle but lost the war? second term is the war for crying out loud..
this guy is one of the main reasons the GOP is dead in the water....
the GOP should have been able to gain senate seats... they didn't.
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quote:Originally posted by buckstalker: Romney was a pathetic choice by the GOP as was proven tonite...
Ron Paul could have beat Obama
No Question.
Congrats to the Obama supporters.
God bless America.
Weed should be legal everywhere. By far less harmful than alcohol....
My only fear for the country is the amount of enabling going on. No one learns from handouts and it only further strengthens the manipulation and control one has over another.
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Too bad Romney had to play the conservative side. I wonder if hard right types tipped the win to Obama because I know there were still some who really had an issue for voting for Romney. He is not a conservative so when he went out there trying to pretend like he was..it was really shaky and hard to watch sometimes.
Most of the people I know who voted for Obama all said the same thing...that they did not know any details of what Romney would do once in.
The DOW is down 331 points right now. Might close fine, but its noticeable. Obama needs to have a bill that goes ahead and lets the tax levels return to Clinton era, and at the same time shuts down all the loopholes that make sense.
Todd Akin in Missouri should be ashamed of himself for staying in the race and ensuring a loss after his public comments.
I am not a Tea Party type, but never trashed them like many do. I do think they need to bring some moderation and the left needs to compromise on their side too.
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And no cash the right has not tipped to Obama he does not need them or want them. They will just go back to there game of obstruction and be hated all the more for it.
what a weak puke the Romney ticket turned out to be. Both Romney and Ryan could not cary there home states or in Romney case his state of residence also.
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quote:Originally posted by buckstalker: Romney was a pathetic choice by the GOP as was proven tonite...
Ron Paul could have beat Obama
No Question.
Congrats to the Obama supporters.
God bless America.
Weed should be legal everywhere. By far less harmful than alcohol....
My only fear for the country is the amount of enabling going on. No one learns from handouts and it only further strengthens the manipulation and control one has over another.
i can even add to that and say that the enabling has been institutionalised so deeply into the fabric of the agricultural economy that since the teaParty came to congress and blocked all earmarks that there is a major mess going on at USDA and within the agriculture community. i won't share details but i can tell you that the restructuring has been insane.
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quote:Originally posted by raybond: Good by Romney you pos.
And no cash the right has not tipped to Obama he does not need them or want them. They will just go back to there game of obstruction and be hated all the more for it.
what a weak puke the Romney ticket turned out to be. Both Romney and Ryan could not cary there home states or in Romney case his state of residence also.
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: It was not put together the right way. It took bribes to pass it, and was concocted without transparency. You need lawyers to read that thing. Passing bills without even reading them. What does that tell you? The ends justify the means when nobody truly knows how the ends will turn out?
I do know something has to be done. I would have a lot of respect for Obama if he said they would revisit the bill and fix what they find to be bad parts of it.
and i agreed with you on that too cashcowmoo.. the REAL problem is that i cannot find a damn bill thathas passed thru congressw ithout the same crapola the healthcare bill had... that includes all bills like tax bills that allow people to put thiermoney in the Caymans or the deregualtions of elctricity that allowed Enron to make little old ladies freeze tehir butts off (JK) you know what i mena rihgt?
it was not and is not fair to blame Obma for Congress's BS. i don;t buy this "leadership" crap that we keep hearing from Bohner and McConel either.. sure Obma is differnt and he has chnaged the game entirley, but neither of those guys had any intention at all of allowing him to be able to claim success in anything, no matter that the the coutnry needs it..
that's the 'leeway" Obam told Putin he needs after the election... the GOP's in congress won't agree to anything Obama wants to do good- and bad? i doubt they'd even agree to give him the rope to hang himself they are so stubborn...
i respect stubborn people even when i disagree with htem, that's part of being Libertarian too.. heck i don't even punish my kids for being stubborn, i encourage them because it shows character... BUT whne you are being stubborn JUST to be stubborn? what's that saying about noses adn faces?
we are driving over the clif. the US as we have known it is History. Get used to the Govt printing alot of moeny....get used to seeing imports from China get more andmore expensive... gold and silver looks good and prefer silver cuz it's still too cheap anyway...
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Why Allen West Lost: 16 Of His Worst Moments In Congress
By Scott Keyes on Nov 7, 2012 at 11:53 am
Rep. Allen West (R-FL), one of the most controversial Tea Party freshmen in Congress, lost his bid for re-election Tuesday night.
Despite moving to a new, more-Republican district (Florida’s 18th congressional district), West was edged by challenger Patrick Murphy (D) by 2,500 votes.
During his two-year tenure in Congress, West earned a reputation as not only one of the House’s most brash members, but also its top Islamophobe.
Here are 16 of the most contentious moments of his congressional career:
1. Progressives are “communists”: At a town hall meeting in April, West said that 80 House Democrats were “members of the Communist Party.” He later clarified that the 80 Democrats he was speaking about were those in the Progressive Caucus.
2. Opposed early voting as an “entitlement”: In an interview with ThinkProgress, West objected to early voting in Florida because “people see it as an entitlement.” He ultimately lost his seat, in part, because of high Democratic early voting turnout.
3. Said Obama’s campaign slogan had a “Marxist-Socialist” meaning: West found hidden meaning in Obama’s “Forward” slogan. “They want to bring out an old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist theme for their campaign called “Forward”.”
4. Obama’s DREAM initiative was a voter fraud conspiracy: Appearing on Fox News, West saw a more nefarious effort beneath Obama’s deferred action immigration policy. “Is this one of those backdoor opportunities to allow people in the next five months to get the opportunity to vote?” he asked.
5. Food stamps “enslave the American people”: West lamented the rise in available food stamps for Americans. “That’s not how you empower the American people,” West said. “That’s how you enslave the American people.”
6. Social Security enslaves the American people: Appearing on Fox News, West criticized Social Security disability benefits. “Once again we are creating the sense of economic dependence, which to me is a form of modern, 21st century slavery.”
7. Obama wants to enslave people: West argued at a campaign event that Obama “does not want you to have the self-esteem of getting up and earning and having that title of American. He’d rather you be his slave.”
8. Said Barney Frank should be in a “pink jumpsuit”: West criticized openly gay Rep. Barney Frank’s (D-MA) congressional tenure earlier this year. “[He's] a guy who for all practical purposes should be in a pink jumpsuit for what he did.”
9. Called undocumented immigration an “invasion”: In a newspaper interview, West likened undocumented immigrants to an enemy force. “You have to repel invasions,” West said.
10. Told congresswoman, “You are not a lady”: West blasted nearby congresswoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) after a dispute, scolding her in a letter, “You have proven repeatedly that you are not a Lady, therefore, shall not be afforded due respect from me!”
11. Called for censoring news outlets: After Wikileaks released thousands of pages of documents, West argued that “we also should be censoring American news agencies” who reported on the cables.
12. Obama supporters are a “threat to the gene pool: West wrote on a conservative website, “I must confess, when I see anyone with an Obama 2012 bumper sticker, I recognize them as a threat to the gene pool.”
13. Religious coexistence “would give away our country”: West blasted “Coexist” bumper stickers at a March 2011 town hall, saying people who have them represent “something that would give away our country, would give away who we are.”
14. Said Nazi leader would be “very proud” of Democrats: In December 2011, West told reporters that “If Joseph Goebbels was around, he’d be very proud of the Democrat party, because they have an incredible propaganda machine.”
15. Criticized rise of feminism: West told a conservative conference that liberal women “have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness — to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.”
16. Told liberals to “get the hell out of the United States”: At a Republican dinner, West had harsh words for his Democratic counterparts. “Take your message of equality of achievement. … You can take it to Europe, you can take it to the bottom of the sea, you can take it to the North Pole, but get the hell out of the United States of America.”
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