Well I voted early today. Guess who I voted for? Romney/Ryan! Yeah, I flipped and I flopped but in the end it was for the best. I believe Romney is the lessor of two evils here. Should Romney win you are going to see a ton of idiots turning into hooligans. We are seeing signs of it already on Twitter feeds.
I promise you will see constant racism remarks, and fraud, and all this.
Anyone else vote yet?
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:
Well I voted early today. Guess who I voted for? Romney/Ryan! Yeah, I flipped and I flopped but in the end it was for the best. I believe Romney is the lessor of two evils here. Should Romney win you are going to see a ton of idiots turning into hooligans. We are seeing signs of it already on Twitter feeds.
I promise you will see constant racism remarks, and fraud, and all this.
There might be many reasons one would vote for one canidate or the other or none.
But how do you know he is the lessor of two evils, he has never been President.
To me that seems like more of an excuse to justify your voting, which you have every right to do, but you would not convince me to vote for him for that reason.
I would rather know what he is going to do to make things better and something in his political history that would indicate he will follow through. -
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:
Well I voted early today. Guess who I voted for? Romney/Ryan! Yeah, I flipped and I flopped but in the end it was for the best. I believe Romney is the lessor of two evils here. Should Romney win you are going to see a ton of idiots turning into hooligans. We are seeing signs of it already on Twitter feeds.
I promise you will see constant racism remarks, and fraud, and all this.
There might be many reasons one would vote for one canidate or the other or none.
But how do you know he is the lessor of two evils, he has never been President.
To me that seems like more of an excuse to justify your voting, which you have every right to do, but you would not convince me to vote for him for that reason.
I would rather know what he is going to do to make things better and something in his political history that would indicate he will follow through. -
Who do you think is better equipped to manage complex economic situations? A CEO and governor, or a lawyer and community organizer?
Posted by IWISHIHAD on :
Originally Posted By Buckstalker:
"I guarantee you this...neither Romney or Obama as president will make ANY positive changes in your life. Both of them are owned by big business and big business doesn't give a rats azz about you or me...
Do you ever ask yourself why neither of these clowns EVER talk about the REAL problems in this country? It's because their handlers won't allow them to...PERIOD
Voting for either of these puppets ensures that Wall Street stays in complete control of every economic aspect of your life... -------------------------------------------------
I think he sums it up.
Hopefully were wrong about the President helping the economy in the next 4 years, no matter who wins.
If i were a betting man i would choose Obama, the guy in office usually has a better chance of being elected, no matter what he does.
But who knows, wonder who the oddsmakers pick in Vegas?
Sure are a lot of threads about the same thing.
-
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Who do you think is better equipped to manage complex economic situations? A CEO and governor, or a lawyer and community organizer?
everybody knows that an actor is the best, dude. that's why Reagan is the best GOP president ever... you goof...
seriously? based on experience alone? you kinda have no choice but to pick the guy who actaully HAS presidential Esperinse.... duh....
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
And that is how Obama won 2008
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: And that is how Obama won 2008
cash Obama won in '08 because of Bush Cheney and Rove. the only reason that romeny even stands a cahnce in this is because people eiterh don't understand or know how bad things were in Dec 08, don't care if it gets that bad again or just can't remember....
as to Obama beating Hillary? well that's because people even democrats somehow just couldn't stomach the idea that the same two families being in charge for three decades...
considering how bad th eeconomy is rightnow and without looking at history? anybody who can't beat the president by 5% is lame anyway.
Posted by raybond on :
yes I voted write in a week ago and I voted for Obama
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Originally Posted By CashCowMoo:
Well I voted early today. Guess who I voted for? Romney/Ryan! Yeah, I flipped and I flopped but in the end it was for the best. I believe Romney is the lessor of two evils here. Should Romney win you are going to see a ton of idiots turning into hooligans. We are seeing signs of it already on Twitter feeds.
I promise you will see constant racism remarks, and fraud, and all this.
There might be many reasons one would vote for one canidate or the other or none.
But how do you know he is the lessor of two evils, he has never been President.
To me that seems like more of an excuse to justify your voting, which you have every right to do, but you would not convince me to vote for him for that reason.
I would rather know what he is going to do to make things better and something in his political history that would indicate he will follow through. -
Who do you think is better equipped to manage complex economic situations? A CEO and governor, or a lawyer and community organizer?
You really don't have a clue what's going on in this country politically do you?
Jordan is right...you are a phucking tool, and a dull one at that
Posted by jordanreed on :
Cash...voting for the lesser of 2 evils?!!..Thats insane!..You have 2 evil people, but one is a little less evil than the other so you vote for him? why would you want anyone evil in the white house? vote for someone who isn't evil for godssake. Jill Stein seems good. Or write in someone you respect. But to vote for an evil person as president makes no sense....oh, we all knew who u were voting for...and no one gives a rats azz.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: Cash...voting for the lesser of 2 evils?!!..Thats insane!..You have 2 evil people, but one is a little less evil than the other so you vote for him? why would you want anyone evil in the white house? vote for someone who isn't evil for godssake. Jill Stein seems good. Or write in someone you respect. But to vote for an evil person as president makes no sense....oh, we all knew who u were voting for...and no one gives a rats azz.
You gave enough to write a testy response.
Posted by jordanreed on :
don't care "who" you vote for but why u vote. you don't have clue. I cant seem to wrap my head around it. You spout all the time about how u care about such and such. Obama is bad ..blah,blah..romney is good. wont vote for romney, then u do.. ..then u call romney evil, but u vote to put him in the white house. U intentionally want an evil man to lead this country...thats what i find disgusting. I happen to think he's a despicable human being too and wouldn't give him the time of day and yet u vote for him. WHY? why vote at all if u haven't a clue? Thats what i care about...and what is wrong with this country.. uninformed, stupid ppl voting! But u said u flipped flopped, and that is romneys forte...so i guess it makes sense. folks like u should sit back, do your job and stfu. Yes, we all knew u would vote for whoever the gop put up there..cuz it didn't matter to u who they put up..u were gonna vote the straight ticket no matter what. no thought whatsoever,,you are a tool...and tools are made to do your menial job and stfu.
Posted by glassman on :
uninformed, stupid ppl voting!
welcome to democracy... the solution to that problem is Dictatorship/Emperors/Royals/ etc genetically selected over hundreds of generations and or genetically manipulated thru modern technocolgy to be able to perform the job flawlessly with ONLY the best interests of the preservation of the species in mind..
you getting my drift? it's not even that you are wrong or right- there is no right answer-
right now? House Ch'in is taking over the world using Communistic rule and ideals while applying a few (meaningless) Captialistic principles and our greedy ass leaders here are selling them the power one percentage point at a time...
Posted by glassman on :
while i'm on the subject of how poorly Democracy would really perform if it were fully enacted/ could you imagine if we allowed everyone to propose, write adn vote on laws using the internet? LOL... it would be a complete nightmare....
Posted by glassman on :
here cashmoo, you can find a real money bet on who will win if you like:
Nate Silver to Joe Scarborough: Wanna Bet? By Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire – Thu, Nov 1, 2012 Related Content
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Political polling guru Nate Silver is so confident in his statistical models that he just offered to bet MSNBC's Joe Scarborough $1,000 that Barack Obama will win re-election. Scarborough, you may recall, criticized Silver's math earlier this week, saying that "Anybody that thinks that this race is anything but a tossup right now is such an ideologue ... they're jokes." He was specifically talking about Silver's FiveThirtyEight website, which shows Mitt Romney with just a 1-in-4 chance of becoming president.
RELATED: FiveThirtyEight Says Obama Is in Command ... For Now
Silver has spent the week firing back, criticizing political pundits for not understanding how odds and probability work and aggressively defending his method against critics. As the week has progressed, his model has only shown Obama's chances of winning increasing, which has not coincidentally increased Silver's confidence in the outcome. (As of this morning, Five Thirty Eight gives Obama a 79 percent chance of winning, with a final Electoral College total over 300.)
RELATED: People Who Can't Do Math Are So Mad At Nate Silver
The back-and-forth swipes all came to head today with this tweet, with Silver offering a friendly $1,000 wager on Tuesday's result, with the winnings going to charity.
personally i am going to close my eyes and pin the tail on the azzhole while i'm in the booth...
why bother you say? cuz numbers matter and if people don't vote? thent hey'll ignore us even more NEXT TIME, and it doesn't matter in htis election. My electroal college representative will vote for Romnesia... that's a dundeel.... i can move to a state where my vote will count by moving to a swing state, that's not much of a choice but it's appealing..
Posted by glassman on :
i hear Romeny repeating his promise to name China a currency manipulator....
i cannot wait to see IF he follows thru on this promise...
i do not beleive he will...
it will be very interesting to watch the very next treasury auction......
Posted by buckstalker on :
I haven't voted in quite a few years because IMO its a rigged game....the elitists pick which candidates they want for both parties. They then con the masses into believing that they have a voice in who gets elected by giving them the right to vote. In the end it doesn't matter which candidate wins because they are both owned by the elitists.
I promised myself that I wouldn't be a part of the con anymore but I have decided to break that promise and vote this year.
I will be voting for Obama...
Not because I believe he is good for this country or even that he is the lessor of two evils...
I will be voting for Obama simply to nullify CCM's vote for Mitt Gumby...
As soon as I leave the voting booth, I am going to head straight to my nearest gun store and purchase as much ammo as I can get my hands on...
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
lmao buck, love the attitude man.
Posted by buckstalker on :
Your welcome CCM...your vote is now rendered worthless
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Two more days! I cant wait!
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: Two more days! I cant wait!
me either, i have plenty of extra food and other necessities on hand for when the riots break out.
i am also waiting with extreme anticipation for Romney to declare the Chinese to be currency manipulators on Tuesday January 22, 2013 (next day aftr inaguration) so that the Greatest Depression can fianlly get really going.... should be a wonderful year 2013
i feel kinda sorry for my roosters.. i'll be eating them while everyone else is fighting for grub...
Posted by glassman on :
when i ran my guess? it came out a tie 269 to 269... straight out first guess based on listening to about 100 hours of bullcrap this week on all the difernt channels. i get a tie.. would that be FUN? or what? man we'd see some real intersting chit go down on that....
here's the swingstates i gave Obama for the tie Ohio, Mich. (that may be worng) Penn, Wisconsin. Thats all i gave him cashcowmoo... I gave Romney the whole west that is swing, adn the whole south including FLA.... think i was too generous? i know my MS elctorla college votes go to Rommel so i am voting third party here.. I know i said i would vote for Obama but i don't want to just cuz... so oddly enough cashcow, you didn't vote ethird party and voted for Romel instead, Buck voted for Obama who i sad i was going to vote for and and i am voting third party ( i guess Johnson) who you said you would vote for.. i think it's all coming out in the wash right?
i wish i could vote for Ron paul again like i did in the primary Jim Cramer has it 440 to 98 for Obama, he should stick to stocks, he's less worng there...i couldn't find anywy for him to get that....
Posted by glassman on :
all the swign states, Texas, Missourri and Arkansas would have to go Obama mjust to get to 401 and the other 39 would trigger a major inquiry itno vot counting.. Missourri? Arkansas? that would be shocking but Texas goes Obama and i'll be even more shocked.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i hear Romeny repeating his promise to name China a currency manipulator....
i cannot wait to see IF he follows thru on this promise...
i do not beleive he will...
it will be very interesting to watch the very next treasury auction......
Well you know its like you said....just campaign promises. Obama made them. GITMO, cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Its all lies to get the vote, right?
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i hear Romeny repeating his promise to name China a currency manipulator....
i cannot wait to see IF he follows thru on this promise...
i do not beleive he will...
it will be very interesting to watch the very next treasury auction......
Well you know its like you said....just campaign promises. Obama made them. GITMO, cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Its all lies to get the vote, right?
Exactly...it's all lies
Soooo...why do you continue to support LIARS?
Please answer with a logical explanation
Posted by glassman on :
that's the real problem and i am sick of it... it's not like i even have some sort of high morals or anything. i understand that lying is common, but when people seem to want to be lied to knowing they are being lied to and rewarding the best liars? it's like there's a big worm in my gut and it's squirming- i just don't relate to that even tho i recognise that lying is basically a human trait, and that any lying or deceit you find in nature is geared toward survival...
Posted by T e x on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: here's the interactive elctraol college map.
when i ran my guess? it came out a tie 269 to 269... straight out first guess based on listening to about 100 hours of bullcrap this week on all the difernt channels. i get a tie.. would that be FUN? or what? man we'd see some real intersting chit go down on that....
here's the swingstates i gave Obama for the tie Ohio, Mich. (that may be worng) Penn, Wisconsin. Thats all i gave him cashcowmoo... I gave Romney the whole west that is swing, adn the whole south including FLA.... think i was too generous? i know my MS elctorla college votes go to Rommel so i am voting third party here.. I know i said i would vote for Obama but i don't want to just cuz... so oddly enough cashcow, you didn't vote ethird party and voted for Romel instead, Buck voted for Obama who i sad i was going to vote for and and i am voting third party ( i guess Johnson) who you said you would vote for.. i think it's all coming out in the wash right?
i wish i could vote for Ron paul again like i did in the primary Jim Cramer has it 440 to 98 for Obama, he should stick to stocks, he's less worng there...i couldn't find anywy for him to get that....
a younger friend of mine projects thusly:
"Obama wins the Electoral College 332-206."
Posted by glassman on :
interesting thing i heard today, Obama will likely get Iowa... that surprises me....
this link should show how i guessed a 269 tie... it should display that if you click on it:
i hate to tell you this cashcow, but i have messeda round with that map alot now, and i do not see how romeny can win.... unless he gets the tie adn then it goes tot eh House of Reps.... which will prolly triger riots unless Romeny also takes the popular vote, and i doubt he will....
Posted by glassman on :
actaully i don't really hate to tell you that.. LOL....
Posted by BooDog on :
Good bye Obama!
Think it will be a bit closer than you think glass. Though he prolly will get another 4. Unfortunately. The younger generations need to step up and learn to take more care of themselves.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by buckstalker:
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i hear Romeny repeating his promise to name China a currency manipulator....
i cannot wait to see IF he follows thru on this promise...
i do not beleive he will...
it will be very interesting to watch the very next treasury auction......
Well you know its like you said....just campaign promises. Obama made them. GITMO, cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Its all lies to get the vote, right?
Exactly...it's all lies
Soooo...why do you continue to support LIARS?
Please answer with a logical explanation
Did you also believe Bill Clinton when he looked into the camera and said he did not have sexual relations with Monica? When you voted for Obama, did you really think the deficit was going to be cut in half in 4 years only to soon find out that Obama kept the Patriot Act formed under Bush and kept GITMO open?
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:Originally posted by buckstalker:
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo:
quote:Originally posted by glassman: i hear Romeny repeating his promise to name China a currency manipulator....
i cannot wait to see IF he follows thru on this promise...
i do not beleive he will...
it will be very interesting to watch the very next treasury auction......
Well you know its like you said....just campaign promises. Obama made them. GITMO, cutting the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Its all lies to get the vote, right?
Exactly...it's all lies
Soooo...why do you continue to support LIARS?
Please answer with a logical explanation
Did you also believe Bill Clinton when he looked into the camera and said he did not have sexual relations with Monica? When you voted for Obama, did you really think the deficit was going to be cut in half in 4 years only to soon find out that Obama kept the Patriot Act formed under Bush and kept GITMO open?
I didn't vote for Clinton or Obama....remember I said I haven't voted in quite a few years...
Now pay attention and answer the phucking question...
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Well get out and vote today buck what are you waiting for!
Posted by buckstalker on :
Im waiting for a candidate that isnt a LIAR and/or owned by large corporations...
I understand you have ADD and are not able to focus so i'll ask the question again...
Why do you continue to believe in and support LIARS?
Answer the question and ill go vote for Rommelny
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by BooDog: Good bye Obama!
Think it will be a bit closer than you think glass. Though he prolly will get another 4. Unfortunately. The younger generations need to step up and learn to take more care of themselves.
closer than tie? even tho i have come across here as a democrat suppporter for years? i have historically voted GOP in ratio of 6 to 2.. the two times i voted dem were becuase of the war in Iraq alone..... as i get older? i realise that i want to vote against all incumbents because they have doen such crappy job. i wanted t vote for romney, i could have voted for the Romeny that became Governor of mass and been proud to say i supported such a GOP... i find the romney of today to be a cheap panderer... Obama? no mater whether youlike him or not? you have to admit that he actaully stands FOR something and has worked to acheive what he stands for... no, i do not agree with alot of what he stands for, but at least he isn't groveling for votes-
i mean this with all sincerity... considering how bad things are? Romney should be able to win with 5% margins, and ht efact that he canot get hose margins indicates more about him and his character than it does about about Obama at all...
Dems have a slight number lead in the US, GOP's look to control much more LAND than Dems, the red and blue maps are not a good indciator of how the coutnry really looks politically.
the criticisms of Obama by the GOP over the last three years have all been touchy feely BS. The real wrong things that Obama is guilty of doing are almost never mentioned, and that is because the GOP would do the exact same things he ahs done in his shoes...
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
I dont see what is wrong with term limits. The career politician seems more like a stock promoter.
Posted by glassman on :
uh oh. Time to turn off that machine and just use another.
After the turnout in 2010 I do not see Obama pulling this odd.
Posted by glassman on :
well cash, based on Fla counts right now? i don't think Romeny stands a chance, it ain' ove just yet, but I counted FLA for romeny and romeny is 20,000 behind with few precincts left that he can win...
i am going to sit back and watch FOX news cuz it'll be fun to see them announce that they lost...
Posted by glassman on :
LOL, even FOX is giving it to Obama but only in a very roundabout way...
Posted by glassman on :
yeah, the finger pointing at Fox has already started....
hopefully? the GOP is going to get this message loud and clear.... if they don't? Hillary WILL be the first woman president in 2016
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: yeah, the finger pointing at Fox has already started....
hopefully? the GOP is going to get this message loud and clear.... if they don't? Hillary WILL be the first woman president in 2016
Well this isnt looking good, but there are still a lot of votes left coming in. Indiana lost a Republican senator that really wasnt planned. Of course Todd Akin loses, and the funny thing is how many votes he still got. Ohio and Florida have me a little nervous.
Posted by glassman on :
it's over cashcow, look on FOX news, it's like a mortuary over there..
Posted by T e x on :
Seems as though Warren has locked it up.
Hope that holds true--we damn sure need her in the Senate.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Well Sarah Palin on Fox was kind of freaking out about it too. It was actually funny to watch.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
What an awful night! Blah! Now we are going to dig in deep on Obama care for sure.
Posted by glassman on :
what exactly is worng with obama care cash?
i told you here before Obma got elected that even tho I do NOT want govt health care, that it will make US employer more competitive on the world market... and it will... i want to be able to buy my own which will defintiley be better, but we need poor people to have a basic health care system...
the lies they told about obamcare didn;t work..
also remebr it was Romenycare before it obamcare, and Romeny siad it was Conservitiv principle that made him do it. people shuld be forced to pay their own wa.. in otehr words buy insuracne or pay a fine (tax? whatever)
i am really enjoying watching rove trying to find a way to win after he lost... Obama doesnt even need Ohio anymore, carl go home and get drunk..
Obam doesnt need florida or ohio if gets Colorado... i think maybe a iwant to move to Clorado now if they legalise pot.. not because i want to smokee it (i don;t care for it) but becausee ican legally make bongs that cost 1000$ and people will pay that for a bong when they won;t pay it for a vase that is just as good... go figure ...
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
It was not put together the right way. It took bribes to pass it, and was concocted without transparency. You need lawyers to read that thing. Passing bills without even reading them. What does that tell you? The ends justify the means when nobody truly knows how the ends will turn out?
I do know something has to be done. I would have a lot of respect for Obama if he said they would revisit the bill and fix what they find to be bad parts of it.
Posted by buckstalker on :
Romney was a pathetic choice by the GOP as was proven tonite...
Ron Paul could have beat Obama
Posted by glassman on :
Colorada and Wash state voted to legalise pot? wow....
times they areachangin'
with colorado in hand? Obma doesnt need Fla or Ohio...
none of the swing state went Romel.
Posted by buckstalker on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: Colorada and Wash state voted to legalise pot? wow....
times they areachangin'
with colorado in hand? Obma doesnt need Fla or Ohio...
none of the swing state went Romel.
As far as legalizing pot....about time
The swing state voters like someone a tad more down to earth than Rommelny...
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
man i love baklava i eat it all winter long when i can use the calories. my wife makes two sheets at a time, one for everyone to share, and one just for me....
i cna't stand the kind with rosewater tho...just honey for me... i might ask her to use maple syrup in one this winter...
Posted by glassman on :
carl rove is such a creep..
even tho he lost? he can't admit it... now he's trying to make it about the margin... he says Obama won the batttle but lost the war? second term is the war for crying out loud..
this guy is one of the main reasons the GOP is dead in the water....
the GOP should have been able to gain senate seats... they didn't.
Posted by buckstalker on :
The real winner tonite was Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc. etc.
Posted by BooDog on :
quote:Originally posted by glassman: it's over cashcow, look on FOX news, it's like a mortuary over there..
lmao.
Yup.
pretty red map though.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by buckstalker: Romney was a pathetic choice by the GOP as was proven tonite...
Ron Paul could have beat Obama
No Question.
Congrats to the Obama supporters.
God bless America.
Weed should be legal everywhere. By far less harmful than alcohol....
My only fear for the country is the amount of enabling going on. No one learns from handouts and it only further strengthens the manipulation and control one has over another.
Posted by CashCowMoo on :
Too bad Romney had to play the conservative side. I wonder if hard right types tipped the win to Obama because I know there were still some who really had an issue for voting for Romney. He is not a conservative so when he went out there trying to pretend like he was..it was really shaky and hard to watch sometimes.
Most of the people I know who voted for Obama all said the same thing...that they did not know any details of what Romney would do once in.
The DOW is down 331 points right now. Might close fine, but its noticeable. Obama needs to have a bill that goes ahead and lets the tax levels return to Clinton era, and at the same time shuts down all the loopholes that make sense.
Todd Akin in Missouri should be ashamed of himself for staying in the race and ensuring a loss after his public comments.
I am not a Tea Party type, but never trashed them like many do. I do think they need to bring some moderation and the left needs to compromise on their side too.
Posted by raybond on :
Good by Romney you pos.
And no cash the right has not tipped to Obama he does not need them or want them. They will just go back to there game of obstruction and be hated all the more for it.
what a weak puke the Romney ticket turned out to be. Both Romney and Ryan could not cary there home states or in Romney case his state of residence also.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by a surfer:
quote:Originally posted by buckstalker: Romney was a pathetic choice by the GOP as was proven tonite...
Ron Paul could have beat Obama
No Question.
Congrats to the Obama supporters.
God bless America.
Weed should be legal everywhere. By far less harmful than alcohol....
My only fear for the country is the amount of enabling going on. No one learns from handouts and it only further strengthens the manipulation and control one has over another.
i can even add to that and say that the enabling has been institutionalised so deeply into the fabric of the agricultural economy that since the teaParty came to congress and blocked all earmarks that there is a major mess going on at USDA and within the agriculture community. i won't share details but i can tell you that the restructuring has been insane.
Posted by a surfer on :
quote:Originally posted by raybond: Good by Romney you pos.
And no cash the right has not tipped to Obama he does not need them or want them. They will just go back to there game of obstruction and be hated all the more for it.
what a weak puke the Romney ticket turned out to be. Both Romney and Ryan could not cary there home states or in Romney case his state of residence also.
So classy Ray as usual.
Posted by glassman on :
quote:Originally posted by CashCowMoo: It was not put together the right way. It took bribes to pass it, and was concocted without transparency. You need lawyers to read that thing. Passing bills without even reading them. What does that tell you? The ends justify the means when nobody truly knows how the ends will turn out?
I do know something has to be done. I would have a lot of respect for Obama if he said they would revisit the bill and fix what they find to be bad parts of it.
and i agreed with you on that too cashcowmoo.. the REAL problem is that i cannot find a damn bill thathas passed thru congressw ithout the same crapola the healthcare bill had... that includes all bills like tax bills that allow people to put thiermoney in the Caymans or the deregualtions of elctricity that allowed Enron to make little old ladies freeze tehir butts off (JK) you know what i mena rihgt?
it was not and is not fair to blame Obma for Congress's BS. i don;t buy this "leadership" crap that we keep hearing from Bohner and McConel either.. sure Obma is differnt and he has chnaged the game entirley, but neither of those guys had any intention at all of allowing him to be able to claim success in anything, no matter that the the coutnry needs it..
that's the 'leeway" Obam told Putin he needs after the election... the GOP's in congress won't agree to anything Obama wants to do good- and bad? i doubt they'd even agree to give him the rope to hang himself they are so stubborn...
i respect stubborn people even when i disagree with htem, that's part of being Libertarian too.. heck i don't even punish my kids for being stubborn, i encourage them because it shows character... BUT whne you are being stubborn JUST to be stubborn? what's that saying about noses adn faces?
we are driving over the clif. the US as we have known it is History. Get used to the Govt printing alot of moeny....get used to seeing imports from China get more andmore expensive... gold and silver looks good and prefer silver cuz it's still too cheap anyway...
Posted by NR on :
Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Donald Duck.
Posted by raybond on :
Here is a teabagger that I won't miss.
Why Allen West Lost: 16 Of His Worst Moments In Congress
By Scott Keyes on Nov 7, 2012 at 11:53 am
Rep. Allen West (R-FL), one of the most controversial Tea Party freshmen in Congress, lost his bid for re-election Tuesday night.
Despite moving to a new, more-Republican district (Florida’s 18th congressional district), West was edged by challenger Patrick Murphy (D) by 2,500 votes.
During his two-year tenure in Congress, West earned a reputation as not only one of the House’s most brash members, but also its top Islamophobe.
Here are 16 of the most contentious moments of his congressional career:
1. Progressives are “communists”: At a town hall meeting in April, West said that 80 House Democrats were “members of the Communist Party.” He later clarified that the 80 Democrats he was speaking about were those in the Progressive Caucus.
2. Opposed early voting as an “entitlement”: In an interview with ThinkProgress, West objected to early voting in Florida because “people see it as an entitlement.” He ultimately lost his seat, in part, because of high Democratic early voting turnout.
3. Said Obama’s campaign slogan had a “Marxist-Socialist” meaning: West found hidden meaning in Obama’s “Forward” slogan. “They want to bring out an old Soviet Union, Marxist-Socialist theme for their campaign called “Forward”.”
4. Obama’s DREAM initiative was a voter fraud conspiracy: Appearing on Fox News, West saw a more nefarious effort beneath Obama’s deferred action immigration policy. “Is this one of those backdoor opportunities to allow people in the next five months to get the opportunity to vote?” he asked.
5. Food stamps “enslave the American people”: West lamented the rise in available food stamps for Americans. “That’s not how you empower the American people,” West said. “That’s how you enslave the American people.”
6. Social Security enslaves the American people: Appearing on Fox News, West criticized Social Security disability benefits. “Once again we are creating the sense of economic dependence, which to me is a form of modern, 21st century slavery.”
7. Obama wants to enslave people: West argued at a campaign event that Obama “does not want you to have the self-esteem of getting up and earning and having that title of American. He’d rather you be his slave.”
8. Said Barney Frank should be in a “pink jumpsuit”: West criticized openly gay Rep. Barney Frank’s (D-MA) congressional tenure earlier this year. “[He's] a guy who for all practical purposes should be in a pink jumpsuit for what he did.”
9. Called undocumented immigration an “invasion”: In a newspaper interview, West likened undocumented immigrants to an enemy force. “You have to repel invasions,” West said.
10. Told congresswoman, “You are not a lady”: West blasted nearby congresswoman Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL) after a dispute, scolding her in a letter, “You have proven repeatedly that you are not a Lady, therefore, shall not be afforded due respect from me!”
11. Called for censoring news outlets: After Wikileaks released thousands of pages of documents, West argued that “we also should be censoring American news agencies” who reported on the cables.
12. Obama supporters are a “threat to the gene pool: West wrote on a conservative website, “I must confess, when I see anyone with an Obama 2012 bumper sticker, I recognize them as a threat to the gene pool.”
13. Religious coexistence “would give away our country”: West blasted “Coexist” bumper stickers at a March 2011 town hall, saying people who have them represent “something that would give away our country, would give away who we are.”
14. Said Nazi leader would be “very proud” of Democrats: In December 2011, West told reporters that “If Joseph Goebbels was around, he’d be very proud of the Democrat party, because they have an incredible propaganda machine.”
15. Criticized rise of feminism: West told a conservative conference that liberal women “have been neutering American men and bringing us to the point of this incredible weakness — to let them know that we are not going to have our men become subservient.”
16. Told liberals to “get the hell out of the United States”: At a Republican dinner, West had harsh words for his Democratic counterparts. “Take your message of equality of achievement. … You can take it to Europe, you can take it to the bottom of the sea, you can take it to the North Pole, but get the hell out of the United States of America.”
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269 to 269... straight out first guess based on listening to about 100 hours of bullcrap this week on all the difernt channels. i get a tie.. would that be FUN? or what? man we'd see some real intersting chit go down on that.... 