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I care that my children and grandchildren grow up in a free, capitalist society where there is no limit to what they can achieve. I also want them to grow up with a little common sense - at least enough to be able to see a big obvious scam when it appears (global warming)!
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"I also want them to grow up with a little common sense"

Fat chance if that with the genes they have to work with.

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rush told him it was a scam so he's convinced... rush is the scam. divorced three time and calls himself conservative what a joke.

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Common sense? How about "better safe than sorry"? Seems pretty common sense to me....

No habitable planet that we know of for light-years in any direction, and PM thinks we should disregard the possibility of Global Warming. [Roll Eyes]

Can I vote PM off the "island"?

BTW PM, environmentalists don't expect the world to be perfect and pristine... They just expect people to leave it at least as good as they found it. You go on and on about how horrible it is that the HUD tenants you have live in a pigsty, why wouldn't you feel the same about the planet you live on?

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"Can I vote PM off the "island"?"

In at least one way I don't wanna see the jerk gone. He keeps providing such perfect proof that there really are nasty stupid bigots in the world that our kids need to be warned about and prepared to deal with.

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LOL... What's the old saying?

"One is never completely useless, one can always serve as a bad example"

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Yep, and he does it so well.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
rush told him it was a scam so he's convinced... rush is the scam. divorced three time and calls himself conservative what a joke.

I think you oughta lay off the divorced line-of-reasoning.

I been divorced twice, yet I conserve water, energy use, friends, etc & don't smoke much pot...never waste food and hardly make any trouble at all for the local constabulary. In fact, I help them, when they're obviously in over their heads.

your conservative pal,
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I gotta agree with that, Tex.

All too often it isn't a matter of "wanting" to save a marriage or even an option that is allowed a person. There are considerations like saving the kids and protecting one's self and just plain sanity. And there are instances where a person had no position or part in it at all, just one day found a notice via certified mail.

I had a friend who one day woke up and his wife was no where about. A few days later he got a letter telling him she had hired a lawyer to handle the divorce, gone to Washington, D.C., and was looking for a rich husband while she was still young enough to lure one. I tried to console him, but about the only thing I could point to was that he clearly was fortunate to be rid of that one.

I just cannot conceive of a mistake that a person made at a relatively young age or in a state of passionate love being held against them as a matter of course, let alone declaring it to be either conservative or not. I thing Rush Limbaugh is a crude dishonest sorry excuse for a human being (PM too), but it is his constant hate, slander, and unjustified attacks (then add on the hypocrisies) that make him the pure and unadulterated jerk he is, not any failures or successes in marriage.

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
How good is good enough? Bdgee? Jordan?

How about clean enough that we can eat what lives in it without fear of toxicity?

How about clean enough that what lives in it won't be mutating extra arms, extra legs, extra fins, extra or undeveloped sex glands, random tumors, etc because of what seeps through their skin?

How about waters that aren't choked off by algae because of all the fertilizer runoff?

How about we get that taken care of and then reassess where we are at? Managing an ecosystem, just like managing a business, is not something with an end point.

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quote:
How about clean enough that we can eat what lives in it without fear of toxicity?
You lefties are always afraid, so I don't think that fear is a good measure of anything.

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How about clean enough that what lives in it won't be mutating extra arms, extra legs, extra fins, extra or undeveloped sex glands, random tumors, etc because of what seeps through their skin?
While having 4 legs and an extra fin might be a good thing, I agree with you that less toxic is good!

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How about waters that aren't choked off by algae because of all the fertilizer runoff?
That's probably a good thing, unless we're going to convert that algae to bio fuel.
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poor little fishys

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quote:
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Originally posted by Propertymanager:
How good is good enough? Bdgee? Jordan?

How about clean enough that we can eat what lives in it without fear of toxicity?

How about clean enough that what lives in it won't be mutating extra arms, extra legs, extra fins, extra or undeveloped sex glands, random tumors, etc because of what seeps through their skin?

How about waters that aren't choked off by algae because of all the fertilizer runoff?

How about we get that taken care of and then reassess where we are at? Managing an ecosystem, just like managing a business, is not something with an end point.

Something tells me that PMS could not manage a home aquarium tank...

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"Something tells me that PMS could not manage a home aquarium tank..."

Certainly he could. They sell books that tell you exactly what to do and exactly how and when to do it. No need to think at all, just obey. Then, if something goes wrong, you can blame it on the wacko liberals, the deadbeat blacks, the sponging Mezikins, because you know you didn't mess it up, which means it had to be some sort of socialist.

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Actually, I've had several aquariums for years. My biggest is a 220 gallon salt water tank that has been in equilibrium for a long time. I occassionally clean the protein skimmer and once a year or so change the filter pads and that's all that's needed (other than food for the fish).
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Uh huh, what'd I tell ya, Mach!

It's when he tries something that doesn't come with standard rules and directions he has a problem and blame it on anyone else he can find.

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quote:
Originally posted by Propertymanager:
Actually, I've had several aquariums for years. My biggest is a 220 gallon salt water tank that has been in equilibrium for a long time. I occassionally clean the protein skimmer and once a year or so change the filter pads and that's all that's needed (other than food for the fish).

Really? Honestly speaking. I can't hardly keep a 30 gallon fresh water tank going. Always too much algae. Been trying to find the right maintenance pattern for a couple years now.

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move it out of the sunshine [Confused]

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One full wall of my unit is nothing but windows glassman. I gots no choice! It ain't huge but I get plenty of natural light. [Big Grin]

Oh...and I'm thinking of selling if anyone is interested. [Razz] Wife wants a room for her art and a lawn for me to mow. [More Crap]

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well, as bdgee pointed out copper does inhibit algae growth...

i know it also kills shellfish but i don't know how fish would react.

sunshine is the culprit and i don't know of any tricks without killing the fish

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quote:
Originally posted by The Bigfoot:
One full wall of my unit is nothing but windows glassman. I gots no choice! It ain't huge but I get plenty of natural light. [Big Grin]

Oh...and I'm thinking of selling if anyone is interested. [Razz] Wife wants a room for her art and a lawn for me to mow. [More Crap]

sell the aquarium, use the proceeds for biz cards to promote her artwork. As her manager, retain enough to pay some decent kid to mow the lawn.

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LOL

She is good. Problem is she is good at a lot of things so she doesn't create enough. Too busy kicking ass and taking names at her real job.

Her friend Andy now...him I did try to get him to let me sell his stuff. His work is off the charts but he absolutely refuses to allow a pricetag to touch anything he makes. Drives me NUTS! That guys is one of the few I believe could honestly make a living on his art if he so chose to. Instead he lives like a hermit.

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quote:
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LOL

She is good. Problem is she is good at a lot of things so she doesn't create enough. Too busy kicking ass and taking names at her real job.

Her friend Andy now...him I did try to get him to let me sell his stuff. His work is off the charts but he absolutely refuses to allow a pricetag to touch anything he makes. Drives me NUTS! That guys is one of the few I believe could honestly make a living on his art if he so chose to. Instead he lives like a hermit.

Big?

You're losing focus...

Andy's one of those guys that either nobody ever hears about, or they make a movie about, years later. Tortured artist, etc...

Now?

About your aquarium?

ahem...

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Scientists Claim Earth Is Undergoing Natural Climate Shift.


http://www.wisn.com/weather/18935841/detail.html


MILWAUKEE -- The bitter cold and record snowfalls from two wicked winters are causing people to ask if the global climate is truly changing.

The climate is known to be variable and, in recent years, more scientific thought and research has been focused on the global temperature and how humanity might be influencing it.

However, a new study by the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee could turn the climate change world upside down.

Scientists at the university used a math application known as synchronized chaos and applied it to climate data taken over the past 100 years.

"Imagine that you have four synchronized swimmers and they are not holding hands and they do their program and everything is fine; now, if they begin to hold hands and hold hands tightly, most likely a slight error will destroy the synchronization. Well, we applied the same analogy to climate," researcher Dr. Anastasios Tsonis said.

Scientists said that the air and ocean systems of the earth are now showing signs of synchronizing with each other.

Eventually, the systems begin to couple and the synchronous state is destroyed, leading to a climate shift.

"In climate, when this happens, the climate state changes. You go from a cooling regime to a warming regime or a warming regime to a cooling regime. This way we were able to explain all the fluctuations in the global temperature trend in the past century," Tsonis said. "The research team has found the warming trend of the past 30 years has stopped and in fact global temperatures have leveled off since 2001."

The most recent climate shift probably occurred at about the year 2000.

Now the question is how has warming slowed and how much influence does human activity have?

"But if we don't understand what is natural, I don't think we can say much about what the humans are doing. So our interest is to understand -- first the natural variability of climate -- and then take it from there. So we were very excited when we realized a lot of changes in the past century from warmer to cooler and then back to warmer were all natural," Tsonis said.

Tsonis said he thinks the current trend of steady or even cooling earth temps may last a couple of decades or until the next climate shift occurs.

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Global and Northern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone Activity [still] lowest in 30-years


http://www.coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/tropical/

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