No, dumbazz, that is not the fact or even close to a fact. It is clear that you can't get the facts right and, in you child like mind, confuse reality with your skewed perception of it, you choose to misrepresent it with what you choose to see. It is abuses if the system by Big Oil, backed up by 18th century political mantra from corrupt right-wing strong arm tactics financed by corporate money that acts as the enemy and steals from the Nation.
And here is another line of bull sh-t from your idiotic assumptions that you put out and claim to be fact,
"Now that oil prices are WAY DOWN, they will start to lose money"
HORSE HOCKEY!
You need to grow up and learn to do simple arithmetic and stop spreading that republican manure.
Get over your backward fascist insistence that demands that the U.S. continues to be the only non-second world nation that refuses to provide health care to its people, so that businesses have to provide insurance to employees and then get to pass on the cost three fold in price increases to the public. It simply isn't practical for a government, acting through and for the benefit of Big Business, to extract that much of its national product to a self serving, outdated, and failed political dogma!
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You hopeless fool. Wealth isn't the prescribed function of the human race and its opposite is not a detriment for quality of life on earth or even in these United States of America. The simple minded inference of your assertion is that David Livingston, Galileo Galilei, Mother Teresa, Henry Thoreau, Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Karl Weierstrasse, and Nikola Tesla, along with many thousands of others upon whom the modern world depended to stretch itself out of almost inhuman stagnation and detriment wasted their lives.
Your's is a backwards and immature sick excuse for thought.
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is wealth(money)important to you? I work..much harder than you I am sure.......performing and improving my artistic side is hugely important to me..Im a physical man..unfortunately my physical body isnt what it used to be, and I refuse to accept charity or handouts..but I still perform a very physical job,everyday, which would put you in traction, and continue my studies and practice and performance..I wear braces on both legs but still carry and install carpet..most everyday...
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I traded my opportunity to become wealthy for the opportunity to live a life of contribution and, even more, the chance to live a life free of the encumbrances of property and other things physical. It was a choice I knowingly made and, at that time as well as now, thought of as a freedom I had, not a violation of duty to the state. (As a barely teen ager and even before, I idolized Thoreau, his philosophy, and his writings.)
PM, your constant assertion that to do as I did (and do) is wrong shows a desire, even an insistence, to have society and political philosophy determine what a person does with his or her life, i.e., government control! (And you don't appear to be quite bright enough to recognize it.) Doesn't sound exactly American to me!
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quote:but still carry and install carpet..most everyday...
You see, we have something in common after all. I'll be installing carpet today also - in one of my rentals.
quote:I traded my opportunity to become wealthy for the opportunity to live a life of contribution and, even more, the chance to live a life free of the encumbrances of property and other things physical.
I'm not sure that you can get wealthy with a degree in gibberish! LOL!
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"I'm not sure that you can get wealthy with a degree in gibberish! LOL!"
What I am sure about is that, whatever it may be that you are sure about isn't something you are qualified to have serious considerations about.
Moreover, The question never had wealth as any sort of factor or input of any kind. Of course, that automatically places it outside any ability you have ever had to consider, making the question incomprehensible to your ilk and, of course, to you, merely gibberish, just as it would be to a ground hog or a night crawler or an amoeba or a stink bug.
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These passed posts revel a lot of why bdgee and jordanreed are willing to accept the life of socialism and big government. It's all about social correctness, in their way of thinking everyone should have equal wealth and those that have found the secrets to obtaining wealth must be brought to their knees for the good of society. PM your just pounding your head against a wall trying to convince them otherwise.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: These passed posts revel a lot of why bdgee and jordanreed are willing to accept the life of socialism and big government. It's all about social correctness, in their way of thinking everyone should have equal wealth and those that have found the secrets to obtaining wealth must be brought to their knees for the good of society. PM your just pounding your head against a wall trying to convince them otherwise.
you misunderstand too then Lock.
PM is the one that is unhappy.
and you are too. i can judge that simply by the way you interpret the posts.
here's the thing. very few people really want to be wealthy.
sure, alot of people talk about it. then they buy that lotto ticket and feel cheated. bad luck.
fact is? anybody who really wants to be wealthy in the US can with 40% tax rates. it's not easy. but nothing worth having is easy. being the best horn player that he can be is not easy.
being the best pitcher in baseball is not easy.
that brings me to the major complaint of most middle class Americans today. they aren't mad cuz somebody has wealth an d they don't, they are mad cuz the people that have it cheat. just like the pitcher who really is the best without steroids got cheated by the guys that took them.
personally? i don't care if they take steroids. it's their nuts that turned into raisins not mine.
as for extreme wealth? i grew up surrounded by it. i never saw so many miserable people anywhere else in the US... plenty of 'em in third world countries tho.
i know a girl that literally destroyed two or three caddy's a year... i had some fun doing it with her for little while...daddy just gave 'er another one, and that was the only time he talked to her.. get it? that's just one example.
i know plenty of wealthy people that aren't miserable too, but it has absolutely nothing to do with their money. it has to do with how they relate to the people around them...
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Actually, looking through your post, I have to admit, you don't know much about anything you like to believe you do. Whatever do you think grants you the right or ability to see into other's and make such fakey untrue bull sh-t pronouncements as you do with,
"It's all about social correctness, in their way of thinking everyone should have equal wealth and those that have found the secrets to obtaining wealth must be brought to their knees for the good of society.",
no part of which even comes close to resembling truth.
You are so full of it that it shouldn't surprise anyone that what you say stinks like your diet.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: These passed posts revel a lot of why bdgee and jordanreed are willing to accept the life of socialism and big government. It's all about social correctness, in their way of thinking everyone should have equal wealth and those that have found the secrets to obtaining wealth must be brought to their knees for the good of society. PM your just pounding your head against a wall trying to convince them otherwise.
you misunderstand too then Lock.
PM is the one that is unhappy.
and you are too. i can judge that simply by the way you interpret the posts.
here's the thing. very few people really want to be wealthy.
sure, alot of people talk about it. then they buy that lotto ticket and feel cheated. bad luck.
fact is? anybody who really wants to be wealthy in the US can with 40% tax rates. it's not easy. but nothing worth having is easy. being the best horn player that he can be is not easy.
being the best pitcher in baseball is not easy.
that brings me to the major complaint of most middle class Americans today. they aren't mad cuz somebody has wealth an d they don't, they are mad cuz the people that have it cheat. just like the pitcher who really is the best without steroids got cheated by the guys that took them.
personally? i don't care if they take steroids. it's their nuts that turned into raisins not mine.
as for extreme wealth? i grew up surrounded by it. i never saw so many miserable people anywhere else in the US... plenty of 'em in third world countries tho.
i know a girl that literally destroyed two or three caddy's a year... i had some fun doing it with her for little while...daddy just gave 'er another one, and that was the only time he talked to her.. get it? that's just one example.
i know plenty of wealthy people that aren't miserable too, but it has absolutely nothing to do with their money. it has to do with how they relate to the people around them...
Did I say anyone was unhappy? I was just noticing that a couple of posters here seem to have an agenda that promotes socialism and big government. As far as wealthy people being unhappy I'm sure all poor people are not happy.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: Bdgee, Everything you post is leaning to the left and socialistic. What more can I say.
Your perception of what is and isn't socialist is childish and askew of reality, along with your eagerness to assign membership in philosophies you have little understanding of to others. It is your crooked viewpoint atop your eagerness to misconstrue facts that is the problem.
Anyway, I am not a socialist or anything near to it. That I am not a far right-wing extremist is correct, but your construing the lack of far right-wingism to being extreme left or even left speaks to your bias, not mine.
And your constant assertions to such effect are insulting, to say the least. I do stand up for truth and openness and factual representation of political events, but, in spite of your wanting to declare that (as well as anything else that is not far right-wing evangelical christian extreme) to be socialist, it is not.
What more can you say? You can cease saying that whatever is beyond your ability (or willingness....or both) to properly understand is the absolute opposite of what you are and want to be.
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I don't have any idea how he treats himself and certainly don't wish to be informed. That's between him and his god and I have the right not to be required to know or care. I think it must say so somewhere in the Bill of Rights.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: bdgee, So your separating yourself from the Bill Mayer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy crowd?
Don't be so parsimoniously wrapped in trite standardization of thought. Your insulting declarations of me being either for or against any of those you list or any other person has didly to do with fact or rationality. You need stop the assertions you are too prone to make via your narrow process of thought and get off the arrogant stupid idea that you have the ability to understand me or anyone not trapped in the limited ignorance in which you stew. There is far more to life and even to political thought and process than what you wish to consider (or maybe that you are capable of seeing).
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You hopeless fool. Wealth isn't the prescribed function of the human race and its opposite is not a detriment for quality of life on earth or even in these United States of America. The simple minded inference of your assertion is that David Livingston, Galileo Galilei, Mother Teresa, Henry Thoreau, Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Karl Weierstrasse, and Nikola Tesla, along with many thousands of others upon whom the modern world depended to stretch itself out of almost inhuman stagnation and detriment wasted their lives.
Your's is a backwards and immature sick excuse for thought.
Mr. closed minded/judgemental acting his best.
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You hopeless fool. Wealth isn't the prescribed function of the human race and its opposite is not a detriment for quality of life on earth or even in these United States of America. The simple minded inference of your assertion is that David Livingston, Galileo Galilei, Mother Teresa, Henry Thoreau, Albert Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Karl Weierstrasse, and Nikola Tesla, along with many thousands of others upon whom the modern world depended to stretch itself out of almost inhuman stagnation and detriment wasted their lives.
Your's is a backwards and immature sick excuse for thought.
Mr. closed minded/judgemental acting his best.
Oh, hi there, Mr. Narrow Minded/ignorant one. I see you haven't lost you lopsided arrogant bias.
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quote:Originally posted by Lockman: bdgee, So your separating yourself from the Bill Mayer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Ted Kennedy crowd?
Don't be so parsimoniously wrapped in trite standardization of thought. Your insulting declarations of me being either for or against any of those you list or any other person has didly to do with fact or rationality. You need stop the assertions you are too prone to make via your narrow process of thought and get off the arrogant stupid idea that you have the ability to understand me or anyone not trapped in the limited ignorance in which you stew. There is far more to life and even to political thought and process than what you wish to consider (or maybe that you are capable of seeing).
Your the only one on this board that has insulted everyone that remotely disagrees with your agenda. It is for that that you are labeled.
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I bet you believe Islam is a peaceful religion as well.
You right-wing racial bigots just can stop making absurd wild assertions and insults, can you?
I don't harbor any beliefs about Islam, good or bad, no matter what some of them did or didn't do, just like I don't think Jews are bound to be serial killers because David Berkowitz was one.
You guys are hateful bigots and you need to get over thinking like preteens on a drug bolstered religious rampage, out to kill off all the witches you can identify, whether or not they float or not.
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