quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: Welcome to AllStocks TonyG! As you've already experienced, the socialists here aren't very friendly to new arrivals, unless you are a card carrying socialist who believes in man-made global warming and a big government that takes care of your every need.
You seem to miss the fact that TonyG has been a member since May 2003. Though I do not agree with his current assumptions, he does not seem to feel the need to post ad nausem as you do.
Was Tony G. not attacked for his opposing opinion? PM is making a valid point that anyone with an opinion different than bdgee's is insulted. Thank you Tony G. for expressing you thoughts.
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quote:Was Tony G. not attacked for his opposing opinion? PM is making a valid point that anyone with an opinion different than bdgee's is insulted. Thank you Tony G. for expressing you thoughts.
What I find interesting is that the socialists on this board, almost without exception, personally attack anyone that expresses an opinion that is different than theirs. Those on the right almost never do that. The difference is character on the part of the right (and lack thereof on the part of the left).
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quote:Was Tony G. not attacked for his opposing opinion? PM is making a valid point that anyone with an opinion different than bdgee's is insulted. Thank you Tony G. for expressing you thoughts.
What I find interesting is that the socialists on this board, almost without exception, personally attack anyone that expresses an opinion that is different than theirs. Those on the right almost never do that. The difference is character on the part of the right (and lack thereof on the part of the left).
LOL.. calling people socialists is not a personal attack?
it's no different than calling people fascist,
if you represent the "right" of America? the right is dead, and has no immediate future.
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quote:LOL.. calling people socialists is not a personal attack?
You know perfectly well that there is a big difference between talking about ideologies and the personal name-calling and 3rd grade insults that you lefties engage in.
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quote:LOL.. calling people socialists is not a personal attack?
You know perfectly well that there is a big difference between talking about ideologies and the personal name-calling and 3rd grade insults that you lefties engage in.
what i know is that you are anti-social.
i know that you have no sense of history at all.
i know that you call people socialists to get a reaction.
i know you suffer from some sort of inferiority problem that makes you attempt to overcompensate by talking as if you are some sort of hard case.
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: Welcome to AllStocks TonyG! As you've already experienced, the socialists here aren't very friendly to new arrivals, unless you are a card carrying socialist who believes in man-made global warming and a big government that takes care of your every need.
You seem to miss the fact that TonyG has been a member since May 2003. Though I do not agree with his current assumptions, he does not seem to feel the need to post ad nausem as you do.
Was Tony G. not attacked for his opposing opinion? PM is making a valid point that anyone with an opinion different than bdgee's is insulted. Thank you Tony G. for expressing you thoughts.
NO. lock... you make the saame false claim PM does. No one attacked TonyG' it was his attack on reason, i.e., his baseless argument that was responded to. It was not an attack on him, but on his reasoning or, more correctly, the lack thereof.
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PM, do you have any kids? If so, are you willing to risk their future on this planet or do you simply not care about life enough to leave this planet a nicer place than you found it? Seriously, this is knowledge older than dirt... You don't poop where you sleep and that is what we are doing when we pollute this Earth. Don't try to deny that humans contribute to global warming, its a FACT, we do...
You claim global warming is a hoax, yet you admit that climate change is real. You know it could get really hot or really cold on this Earth, (most of the evidence available suggests a warming trend for the near future), yet you seem content to dismiss it all as a hoax and advocate that humans do nothing. Simply dismissing ALL scientific evidence about global warming as government sponsored BS is counterproductive and you know it...
TonyG suggests we will simply adapt, and while he is correct, why should we force an adaptation onto ourselves by doing nothing until it is absolutely clear that "global warming" is upon us? We have survived by using our brains, it seems to work, so lets keep using them and take active steps to ensure that humans contribute an absolute minimum to the forces of climate change. It may be too late, but better late than never, IMO anyway...
PM, you claim that the most informed people on climate change don't have a clue, yet you seem sure that you know they are wrong. Please, share your credentials in the field of climate study and tell us what you know that makes you willing to bet the lives and future of everything on this planet?
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Don't listen to Jordan. He's one of the professional confess to everything nut cases. He'll be claiming Eugene Debbs was his maternal great uncle if you let him, then the next day he'll claim to be a John Bircher.
With respect to causes extreme, Jordan was like Ben Franklin with respect to religion. Franklin held membership in at leas 5 different christian churches at the same time and, all the while, on Saturday mornings, sat through services regularly in the local synagogue.
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i didn't know Franklin went the synagogue too
i did know that Thomas Jefferson "re-wrote" the Bible tho:
Thomas Jefferson believed that the ethical system of Jesus was the finest the world has ever seen. In compiling what has come to be called "The Jefferson Bible," he sought to separate those ethical teachings from the religious dogma and other supernatural elements that are intermixed in the account provided by the four Gospels. He presented these teachings, along with the essential events of the life of Jesus, in one continuous narrative.
This presentation of The Jefferson Bible offers the text as selected and arranged by Jefferson in two separate editions:
separation of Church and State was originally conceived to PROMOTE religion and Protect it from the Government now it's the other way 'round? or is it?
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Don't listen to Jordan. He's one of the professional confess to everything nut cases. He'll be claiming Eugene Debbs was his maternal great uncle if you let him, then the next day he'll claim to be a John Bircher.
With respect to causes extreme, Jordan was like Ben Franklin with respect to religion. Franklin held membership in at leas 5 different christian churches at the same time and, all the while, on Saturday mornings, sat through services regularly in the local synagogue.
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quote:Don't try to deny that humans contribute to global warming, its a FACT, we do...
It is NOT a fact, it is a socialist hoax intended to create a crisis. The purpose of this made-up crisis is to unite the ignorant population in a common cause so that they can be manipulated. If you read a little history, you would see that this same template has been used over and over. I suggest starting your reading with "The Creature from Jekyll Island".
quote:You claim global warming is a hoax, yet you admit that climate change is real. You know it could get really hot or really cold on this Earth, (most of the evidence available suggests a warming trend for the near future), yet you seem content to dismiss it all as a hoax and advocate that humans do nothing.
The climate is ALWAYS changing. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the global warming hoax. I don't believe for a minute that scientists can measure an average world temperature change of 1/2 of 1 degree over a 100 year period. That's ridiculous! Furthermore, I KNOW that the wacko left doesn't know which direction the temperature is changing because they changed their hoax from "global warming" to "climate change", so that they would be covered regardless of the direction of change. Finally, I'm still waiting to hear what the world's temperature is supposed to be. Did humans cause the little ice age? Did humans cause the little ice age to end? Was the temperature correct during the little ice age or is it correct today? Or would it be correct 2 degrees warmer than it is now? You see how ridiculous this entire global warming or climate change issue is?
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West Tenn inmate who left prison farm calls 911 for help
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6:30 PM CST, February 16, 2009 HENNING, Tenn. (AP) — Tennessee prison officials say an inmate who left a work detail at the West Tennessee State Penitentiary farm called 911 after getting lost in the woods.
Officials said trusty Bruce Price of Bedford County got a cell phone in the woods, where it may have been left by someone else in a preset arrangement.
Tennessee Department of Correction spokeswoman Dorinda Carter says Price lost his bearings Sunday and used the phone to call for help about an hour and 45 minutes later.
According to The Commercial Appeal, authorities are considering escape charges against him.
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Jordan, forget it. Ya can read Burns to a pig all day and night for weeks interspersed with careful lectures on hygiene and he'll still eat slop and dribble and slobber all over your books of poetry. It's genetic. A pig is a bunch smarter than a PM, but they both have genetic predispositions that make 'em what they are and forbid them from being like humans.
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I just don't get why anyone would not want to slow down what junk we put into the air and water.
Whether you believe in global warming or not.
If you grew up in Southern California in the 50's and 60's and felt how bad the smog was then, you could appreciate trying to slow down the pollution process.
I would hate to think what it would be like in Southern California now, if they had not put restrictions on pollution.
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quote:I just don't get why anyone would not want to slow down what junk we put into the air and water.
I agree with you 100% that we need clean and safe water and air. We have that. Our country has made great strides in cleaning up the the air and water in this country. The question is how clean is clean enough? The wacko left like Al (I invented the internet) Gore wants us peasants to ride our bikes while he jets around in a private jet. The wacko left wants wind power, provided it doesn't affect the view in the area where they sail their yachts. The wacko left wants our industries to buy carbon credits FROM THEM! I could go on and on and on, but you know what I'm saying. I'm all for clean air and water (which we have), but I'm not for falling into the scam being perpetrated by the wacko left.
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i spose Al could ride his bike from N.Y to cali..but that might take too long..
who wants a wind turbine out there window?..not me..I also wouldnt want it where I am sailing..would you?..but how bout the desert?..makes a little more sense, huh?
you talk like a little kid..
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I think wind turbines in Ohio where there is constant wind of hate and bigotry from PM makes a lot of sense. At least it would make some practical and pragmatic use of all the idiotic noise he spews out. Then if we installed appropriate drainage about where he and his kind hang out rapping all that near cut and paste bull sh-t from Hanity and Limbaugh and O'rielly and Chaney, along with some generation chambers and piping for the ch4, we could use it to power pumping stations to carry off the sewage from the rest of the population to make (though the volume from just PM's crowd will possibley be more than enough) electricity for the grid.
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quote:who wants a wind turbine out there window?..not me..I also wouldnt want it where I am sailing..would you?..but how bout the desert?..makes a little more sense, huh?
I would have no problem having wind turbines within sight of my house. Ditto for sailing, or where I mountain bike, snowboard, camp, etc.
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as matter of fact? in our state we cannot connect power generating equipment to the electric grid because our Conservative Politicians are all in the pockets of the energy companies.
it is a matter of federal law that i have the right to sell electricity back to the power co, but my state has to negotiate a contract, and they REFUSE.
is this Conservatism? cuz MS politicians claim to be Conservative.
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quote:it is a matter of federal law that i have the right to sell electricity back to the power co, but my state has to negotiate a contract, and they REFUSE.
That's a disgrace and the state politicians (of either party) that are responsible for it should be tarred and feathered!
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quote:it is a matter of federal law that i have the right to sell electricity back to the power co, but my state has to negotiate a contract, and they REFUSE.
That's a disgrace and the state politicians (of either party) that are responsible for it should be tarred and feathered!
Why?
They are taking their lead from Limbaugh, exactly like you and the whole rest of the republican Party. It's a matter of Party unity and mantra.
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quote:it is a matter of federal law that i have the right to sell electricity back to the power co, but my state has to negotiate a contract, and they REFUSE.
That's a disgrace and the state politicians (of either party) that are responsible for it should be tarred and feathered!
my Governor is and has been for quite awhile, Haley Barbour:
Haley Reeves Barbour (born October 22, 1947 in Yazoo City, Mississippi) is an American politician currently serving as the Governor of Mississippi. He gained a national spotlight in August 2005 after Mississippi was hit by Hurricane Katrina. Barbour won re-election as Governor in 2007.[1] Under Mississippi's term limits, Barbour cannot run again for Governor in 2011 when his term ends.
Prior to being elected Governor, Barbour worked as a lawyer and lobbyist, and also served as Chairman of the Republican National Committee from 1993 to 1997, during which the Republicans captured both the United States Senate and United States House of Representatives for the first time since 1954.
In 1991, Barbour helped found Barbour Griffith & Rogers, LLC[4], a Washington, D.C.-based lobbying firm, with Lanny Griffith and Ed Rogers, two lawyers who formerly worked in the George H. W. Bush administration. In 1998, Fortune magazine named Barbour Griffith & Rogers the second-most-powerful lobbying firm in America.[5] In 2001, after the inauguration of George W. Bush, Fortune named it the most powerful.[6] The firm has made millions of dollars lobbying on behalf of the tobacco industry.[7]
Barbour's taxation policies have not been without contention. In March 2006 Barbour vetoed a bill that would lower grocery taxes, while simultaneously raising tobacco taxes.[17] Mississippians pay some of the highest grocery taxes in the nation.[
When Barbour took office, the state of Mississippi had run a $709 million budget deficit for the 2004 fiscal year. With bipartisan support, and without raising taxes, Barbour implemented a plan called Operation: Streamline to cut the budget deficit in half.[33] He accomplished this largely by reducing spending on social services, most notably Medicaid; the 2005 budget drastically reduced coverage for 65,000 individuals classified as Poverty-Level Aged and Disabled (PLAD), most of whom qualified for the federal Medicare program, and also significantly limited prescription drug coverage. In 2005, the state was budgeted to spend a total of $130 million less on Medicaid than in the previous year.[34][35] This trend continued in the state budget for the 2006 fiscal year. After a long special session, the legislature approved a budget that featured more social service cuts but also increased educational spending.[36] With tax revenues higher than expected during the 2006 fiscal year, due in large part to increased sales tax revenues in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the state achieved its first balanced budget in years.[37] In the 2008 fiscal year budget, for the first time since its enactment in 1997, the state has fully funded the Mississippi Adequate Education Program.[
"Conservative" was invented here PM.
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quote:When Barbour took office, the state of Mississippi had run a $709 million budget deficit for the 2004 fiscal year. With bipartisan support, and without raising taxes, Barbour implemented a plan called Operation: Streamline to cut the budget deficit in half.[33] He accomplished this largely by reducing spending on social services, most notably Medicaid; the 2005 budget drastically reduced coverage for 65,000 individuals classified as Poverty-Level Aged and Disabled (PLAD), most of whom qualified for the federal Medicare program, and also significantly limited prescription drug coverage. In 2005, the state was budgeted to spend a total of $130 million less on Medicaid than in the previous year.[34][35] This trend continued in the state budget for the 2006 fiscal year. After a long special session, the legislature approved a budget that featured more social service cuts but also increased educational spending.[36] With tax revenues higher than expected during the 2006 fiscal year, due in large part to increased sales tax revenues in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, the state achieved its first balanced budget in years.[37] In the 2008 fiscal year budget, for the first time since its enactment in 1997, the state has fully funded the Mississippi Adequate Education Program.
WOW! Gotta like that!
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the only people complaining are the patients and the doctors on medicaid.
Miss. scheduled to cut Medicaid physician pay
The Mississippi Medicaid program will cut physician pay on Aug. 6 by $15.8 million unless lawmakers break a deadlock and adopt legislation to fill a $90 million Medicaid deficit for fiscal 2009. That's between 5% and 10% for most CPT codes.
of course, the patients have no voice so we don't hear them complaining, the doctors are leaving for better pay...
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quote:Miss. scheduled to cut Medicaid physician pay
The Mississippi Medicaid program will cut physician pay on Aug. 6 by $15.8 million unless lawmakers break a deadlock and adopt legislation to fill a $90 million Medicaid deficit for fiscal 2009. That's between 5% and 10% for most CPT codes.
the doctors are leaving for better pay...
How can that be? "From each according to their abilities..." These doctors should be happy to work for minimum wage since they're benefitting the poor and lazy. Maybe they're not on the socialist bandwagon yet?
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quote:Miss. scheduled to cut Medicaid physician pay
The Mississippi Medicaid program will cut physician pay on Aug. 6 by $15.8 million unless lawmakers break a deadlock and adopt legislation to fill a $90 million Medicaid deficit for fiscal 2009. That's between 5% and 10% for most CPT codes.
the doctors are leaving for better pay...
How can that be? "From each according to their abilities..." These doctors should be happy to work for minimum wage since they're benefitting the poor and lazy. Maybe they're not on the socialist bandwagon yet?
LOL... yeah well they made those cuts in order to pay Toyota and Nissan to come set plants here so that the poor and lazy that can get out of their wheelchairs are able to go work for a foreign car co...
they don't call attracting foreign car co's stimulus packages, but the taxpayers still pay 'em.
the earnings limit to qualify for Medicaid in MS for a single parent with 2 children is $5,496/year...
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