Ridiculous. I am not a big believer in all the psychological mumbo-jumbo. I am very happy with my business. In addition, I'm sick and tired of everyone in this country claiming to be a victim. What I do in my business is absolutely right, ethical, and moral. We do not try to "hurt people", that's just plain ridiculous. On the other hand, I have absolutely no hesitation about kicking deadbeats, druggies, drunks, and criminals to the curb. NONE!
Everyone in America has the right to be free and to make their own choices. Druggies make the choice to take drugs. Drunks make the choice to drink. Deadbeats make the choice to not pay the rent. In almost every case where I've evicted tenants (and there have been a BUNCH of them), the tenant spent their money on something stupid: drugs, alcohol, big screen tv, dog, van, etc and then didn't have the rent money. I have absolutely no sympathy that these people are evicted and it is certainly not cruel. THEY make the choice and suffer the consequences.
That is absolutely consistent with my stand on the LAZY. I firmly believe that a person should have the right not to work. I have no problem with that. However, I do have a BIG PROBLEM with my tax dollars being spent to provide housing; food; utilities; or medical care for able-bodied and able-minded people that are too lazy to work (and there are millions of them in the United States). I see them EVERY DAY!
I realize that many socialists disagree with this position. They are all for taking from those that work and giving to the lazy. That is not me!
Now, don't get me wrong, all tenants are certainly not like this. 90% of the tenants are no problem at all. We typically evict 1% per month, almost all for non-payment of rent. In fact, I evicted one this month who was simply too lazy to work enough hours to have rent money.
Someone in another post said that he was poor and rarely worked 40 hours per week (DUH). I'm not advocating that the government make him work hard. I'm saying that he has the right to be lazy and shouldn't get government handouts if he's not willing to work full time.
If you don't pay your car payment, they come and get your car. If you don't pay your rent, you are homeless. Simple.
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Karma can get you at the worst time Pm. Heaven forbid you need a break in the future. Compassion for our fellow man and the mistakes we all make from time to time is what will save this world. Hard line thinking and elitist veiwpoints lead to a quickly broken system.
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I think you do believe in psychogical mumbo- jumbo that's why you are packing a weapon, you sure are fearing something. "I am certainly not afraid of deadbeats and losers".
Your ideas of choices for people and problems in the system are made so simple by you. But then again you are in a different position to make them simple.
I am sure you have worked hard to get where you are, i am not trying in any way downplay that.
But there are many people that have worked very hard that end up in that down and out situation also.
I believe our system does not do enough for all these down and out people which is increasing day by day.
You have clasified a certain type of person and put them into your nutshell through out your posts. We all know that there are a small percentage that cheat the system. But there are a lot more that get cheated by the system.
You go into programs that are set up to aid different groups in need. These programs are good yet are not adequate for the growing needs of our failing economy.
Some of your quotes are interesting here are a couple:
"There is no dignity to homlessness or being a drug addict. Many of these people are mentally ill and should be institutionalized for their own good. Those that are drunks, drug addicts, and lazy bums need to hit bottom so that they have a motive to change".
"There's no doubt that some of these drugs are terrible and difficult to kick. I had a tenant who was a Vietnam veteran and a crack addict. I tried everything to help him, including driving him myself to the VA hospital."
Funny how you nutshell people.
You did everything to help the Vet? Although i will say you did more than some.
I think you also mentioned something about SS Disability in one of your posts maybe you can refresh me on that.
There sure is a big differance to me between not having a car and not having a home. Might be simple to you as a landloard, but it should not be that simple for the homeless.
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quote:Originally posted by Relentless.: Karma can get you at the worst time Pm. Heaven forbid you need a break in the future. Compassion for our fellow man and the mistakes we all make from time to time is what will save this world. Hard line thinking and elitist veiwpoints lead to a quickly broken system.
so true. i started and built a very lucrative repo biz in the Wash DC area. i tried to be fair, but i freely admit i got a huge kick out of the work itself..
Karma eventually did catch up with me. but i deal with it. no whining here. and i wouldn't/won't trade the thrills i had for a do-over.
never go faster than your guardian angel can fly
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Once you have paid your taxes (or haven't and still owe them) it is not your money and you have no option, as to its use, other than your vote at the poll ... no right to expect to determine what is done or not done with it. I'm sick and tired of that line of bu-- sh-- with you acting like someone is cheating you out of something that you own and claiming a right to insult and punish someone for doing so. You are just acting like the self possessed bully and nin-com-poop head you are (emphasis on the poop part).
Not all of us that fit into the class of "all those that find your rhetoric and nastiness distasteful" are socialist. What you prove by the absurd and always included hatefulness and bigotry that you use when you are misusing and flailing that word about to justify things you want to be, is that you have never thought deep enough to not understand "socialism" is not defined as disagreeing with you.
Neither is "socialism defined as, "taking from those that work and giving to the lazy". No doubt, what you really find unsuitable about what you are incorrectly calling socialism is that something is not give to you, but to others instead.
"If you don't pay your car payment, they come and get your car. If you don't pay your rent, you are homeless (assuming someone boot your butt out)."
Yeah, true, maybe, but
it doesn't make you a deadbeat,
it doesn't make you a lazy,
It doesn't make you a socialist,
it doesn't make you a wacko,
it doesn't make you a liberal,
_ _ _ and so, on and on and _ _ _
and it sure as the dickens doesn't make you unfit to be a person or a citizen or unworthy of respect, and a perfectly deserving target for the hate and nastiness of someone without the common courtesy not to shame us all by insinuations that we should also think and speak of them by constantly railing at them with insulting and degrading language.
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Now that's my kind of station(Race Track) and the price to. It's $3.15 a gallon here down $.10 from last week.
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speakin of race tracks.. i paid 7+/gal. for race gas this season.. maybe i should build my own still and switch to ethanol.
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TurboKid, My type of race track has those things that eat hay, they do give out gas but its free. Posts: 3875 | From: ca. | Registered: Jul 2005
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i bet my gas smells better... even if it is more expensive.
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quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: I don't think i would put that still fuel into my car seems like there is a better place to put it.
1 gallon for me, 1 for the car, seems only fair.
only problem is, i think the car could travel alot further on 1 gallon than i could..
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"If you don't pay your car payment, they come and get your car. If you don't pay your rent, you are homeless (assuming someone boot your butt out).
Yeah, true, maybe, but
it doesn't make you a deadbeat,
it doesn't make you a lazy,"
Here is the definition of deadbeat from the dictionary:
deadbeat: a person who avoids paying debts.
So, YES that makes them a deadbeat. In addition, if they are too lazy to work enough hours to pay the rent, then yes they are lazy.
All this political correctness promoted by the left is out of control. As far as I'm concerned when a deadbeat doesn't pay the rent that's the same as having someone robbing you on the street and they should be in jail, not given a handout from the taxpayer.
quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: "If you don't pay your car payment, they come and get your car. If you don't pay your rent, you are homeless (assuming someone boot your butt out).
Yeah, true, maybe, but
it doesn't make you a deadbeat,
it doesn't make you a lazy,"
Here is the definition of deadbeat from the dictionary:
deadbeat: a person who avoids paying debts.
So, YES that makes them a deadbeat. In addition, if they are too lazy to work enough hours to pay the rent, then yes they are lazy.
All this political correctness promoted by the left is out of control. As far as I'm concerned when a deadbeat doesn't pay the rent that's the same as having someone robbing you on the street and they should be in jail, not given a handout from the taxpayer.
Mike
Prop man, here's why i just don't care about "deadbeats" as you call them...
they're small potatoes in the big deep fryer of life....
read these filings:
There are currently 525,035,229 shares of our common stock validly issued and outstanding. As described in Part II, Item 1. “Legal Proceedings,” we were initially aware of approximately 243,842,000 additional shares of our common stock that we believe were wrongfully issued. We have also identified 306,207,408 shares of common stock that are currently held in brokerage accounts, which shares may be in addition to the shares noted above. Based on the foregoing, we estimate that a total of 1,075,084,637 shares are outstanding, whether validly issued or invalidly issued, comprised of 525,035,229 validly issued shares, 243,842,000 invalidly shares identified previously by us, and 306,207,408 additional invalidly issued shares held by brokerage firms on behalf of various beneficial owners. If our continued investigations reveal additional shares or reveal that the number of such shares is less than described above, we will report such conclusions by filing an appropriate Current Report on Form 8-K.
After consideration of various means to resolve the issues of the invalidly issued shares, we currently intend to undertake a reverse stock split of our common stock. If undertaken, we intend to base the reverse stock split on a ratio that would reduce the number of our outstanding shares of our common stock, whether validly or invalidly issued, to approximately 5,000,000 shares. Such action, if undertaken and completed, would also result in the reduction of the number of our shareholders. Following the reverse stock split, if undertaken and completed, we intend to recognize all then outstanding shares of our common stock as validly issued and outstanding.
Because we intend to recognize the 1,075,084,637 shares of our common stock described above in the proposed reverse stock split, the 243,842,000 invalidly shares identified previously by us and 306,207,408 additional invalidly issued shares held by brokerage firms on behalf of various beneficial owners are assumed to be outstanding for purposes of this report.
you can read the whole thing here... the "wrongfully issued" shares were apparently printed up on somebodies copier and the signature forged. they were accepted by some broker and deposited into the system and then distributed thru-out..... "the law" has simply decided that the company shall issue more shares from their treasury to replace them...
this is in fact small potatoes in the stock market, but what happened here is transparent because in pennystocks the "crooks" are unsophisticated and "the law" just doesn't bother to follow thru...
the truth is that billions of dollars are skimmed off of working peoples investments every year, and it's simply the status quo...
IMO sloth and greed are about equal....
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quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: "If you don't pay your car payment, they come and get your car. If you don't pay your rent, you are homeless (assuming someone boot your butt out).
Yeah, true, maybe, but
it doesn't make you a deadbeat,
it doesn't make you a lazy,"
Here is the definition of deadbeat from the dictionary:
deadbeat: a person who avoids paying debts.
So, YES that makes them a deadbeat. In addition, if they are too lazy to work enough hours to pay the rent, then yes they are lazy.
All this political correctness promoted by the left is out of control. As far as I'm concerned when a deadbeat doesn't pay the rent that's the same as having someone robbing you on the street and they should be in jail, not given a handout from the taxpayer.
Mike
No, that doesn't make them a deadbeat and certainly doesn't justify some self important loudmouth to run on and on about it and so labeling them.
Just because someone hasn't paid some debt (or some inappropriate dun that some one else has labeled a debt) isn't what makes a deadbeat, even by your limited definition of "deadbeat".
The operative term in what you cite: "deadbeat: a person who avoids paying debts" is "avoid", conotating intentional....by design....planned. The act of not paying, in itself, does not constitute being a deadbeat.
Moreover, an honest reporting of that so called dictionary's "definition" (it isn't a definition.....dictionaries do not contain definitions, but usages) of :deadbeat" includes a second and equally significant substitute usage of the word as, "deadbeat: a loafer; sponger", which clearly is not a justifiable description of someone who hasn't paid a debt because he cannot.
Absorbing the loss due to lending to someone that Subsequently isn't able to repay a debt is a normal business activity that is supposed to be facored into a proper business plan, even when an agreement was taken on through transfer of ownership from a previous owner. The business (i.e., you, now) made the agreement understanding that it was thereby accepting and agreeing to the ability of the borrower to pay. You bought the business and its losses and obligations and that included each of the individual agreements with individual tenants, including those that were in error. You bought those business decisions! If you failed to do enough work to identify them before you bought, it wasn't a failure by the tenants, it was yours. Contrary to what you are yelling at us, whether or not it was a bad business decision is a question of your worth and competence, not a question of the worthiness of the one you choose to blame. Blaming and insulting others when you failed to manage well is inappropriate.
If you can't understand the difference in failing to pay a debt because it isn't possible and in refusing to pay when it is, you are suffering from stupidity. If you can understand the difference and still assume anyone that doesn't pay can or should be cast into the pool of "deadbeats" or some other intended derogatory classification, you are simply a boorish jerk. In either case, your assumption that only your bent on such considerations are valid and worthy is childish; the further assumption that repeatedly harping on it publicly, with inappropriate insulting hateful language is acceptable and the public is obligated to listening and agreeing is crude, rude, and uncouth.
Take your tax write off quietly and act like you run a responsible business.
Act like a man.
Better yet, try acting like a gentleman.
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As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. You are simply an apologist for deadbeats and the lazy, as is much of the wacko left. Your only response to any discussion is PERSONAL ATTACKS, which makes you look like a 3rd grade bully. If your argument made sense, you could discuss things like an adult instead of personally attacking everyone that doesn't agree with you.
Absorbing the loss due to lending to someone that Subsequently isn't able to repay a debt is a normal business activity that is supposed to be facored into a proper business plan
You are correct that losses due to deadbeat tenants are part of the operating expenses for a rental property business. However, like all other businesses, losses are only accepted after all attempts to collect the debt are exhausted.
If you can't understand the difference in failing to pay a debt because it isn't possible and in refusing to pay when it is, you are suffering from stupidity. If you can understand the difference and still assume anyone that doesn't pay can or should be cast into the pool of "deadbeats" or some other intended derogatory classification, you are simply a boorish jerk.
I fully understand the difference between someone who can't pay and someone who simply refuses to pay, although the end result in my business is exactly the same - eviction. Moreover, in every case in the dozens of evictions I have done, the reason that the tenant couldn't pay is that they made a bad choice such as spending the rent money on drugs, alcohol, a pit bull, or a big screen tv; they were arrested for this or that; or they quit their job for various reasons (often because they are LAZY). Although I am absolutely certain that some people have problems beyond their control, such as a medical problem, that is only a rare reason for tenants being evicted.
quote:Originally posted by Propertymanager: bdgee,
As usual, you don't know what you're talking about. You are simply an apologist for deadbeats and the lazy, as is much of the wacko left. Your only response to any discussion is PERSONAL ATTACKS, which makes you look like a 3rd grade bully. If your argument made sense, you could discuss things like an adult instead of personally attacking everyone that doesn't agree with you.
Absorbing the loss due to lending to someone that Subsequently isn't able to repay a debt is a normal business activity that is supposed to be facored into a proper business plan
You are correct that losses due to deadbeat tenants are part of the operating expenses for a rental property business. However, like all other businesses, losses are only accepted after all attempts to collect the debt are exhausted.
If you can't understand the difference in failing to pay a debt because it isn't possible and in refusing to pay when it is, you are suffering from stupidity. If you can understand the difference and still assume anyone that doesn't pay can or should be cast into the pool of "deadbeats" or some other intended derogatory classification, you are simply a boorish jerk.
I fully understand the difference between someone who can't pay and someone who simply refuses to pay, although the end result in my business is exactly the same - eviction. Moreover, in every case in the dozens of evictions I have done, the reason that the tenant couldn't pay is that they made a bad choice such as spending the rent money on drugs, alcohol, a pit bull, or a big screen tv; they were arrested for this or that; or they quit their job for various reasons (often because they are LAZY). Although I am absolutely certain that some people have problems beyond their control, such as a medical problem, that is only a rare reason for tenants being evicted.
Mike
Yeah, I do know what I'm talking about. Your problem, if it is the case that you are bright enough to understand what you are doing and that you aren't trapped in some psychological wonderland that doesn't allow you to see your actions as they are (that remains a possibility, of course) seems to be that you haven't the ability to make any kind of statement without using some intentional slander and insult. (It may be sort of like a heavy accent that you don't hear yourself and therefore can't fathom why anyone else might hear it. But it is there.)
Take only your last post. In all it short 4 paragraph you have insulted or slandered people that don't happen to fit your view as to what you want to be, using terms and labels clearly intended to degrade them how many times?
deadbeats lazy wacko left deadbeat tenants LAZY
"in every case in the dozens of evictions I have done, the reason that the tenant couldn't pay is that they made a bad choice, such as spending the rent money on drugs, alcohol, a pit bull, or a big screen tv; they were arrested for this or that; or they quit their job for various reasons (often because they are LAZY)."
"Although I am absolutely certain that some people have problems beyond their control, such as a medical problem, that is only a rare reason for tenants being evicted."
That's a lot of hate and bias packed into 4 little paragraphs..
And I note that the two quotes above are in direct contradiction, in the first you insist that something is true "in every case", then you claim that in some cases, "I am absolutely certain that some people have problems beyond their control", that is, are not one of the "every cases" of the first quote..
Face it. You are so full of hate and bigotry you can't see the vulgarity in your tirades and attacks on people.
Do you spit and fume as you rant against them?
It must be a frightful sight.
My, my, my, my, what anger!
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clearly mucho hate...although not pent-up...all i have heard from propman ,in the few short weeks, was a rail against those that arent him or like him...and, always the same broken record.
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And I note that the two quotes above are in direct contradiction, in the first you insist that something is true "in every case", then you claim that in some cases, "I am absolutely certain that some people have problems beyond their control", that is, are not one of the "every cases" of the first quote..
Once again, when the truth is not on your side, you try to distort things (a common theme among those on the wacko left).
If you would read carefully, you would see that there is absolutely no contradiction in what I wrote. In every case of the evictions I have done the tenant made a bad choice. I'm sure the some people have problems beyond there control, but I haven't experienced that and haven't evicted anyone that has such a problem. Absolutely consistent.
Furthermore, as is clear to see, I have no hatred or bigotry, just my opinion. You on the left, on the other hand, choose to personally attack anyone that has an opinion that is different than yours (like a 3rd grade bully).
The left hates George Bush; hates Rush; hates Fox News - the list goes on and on. Again, when you aren't right, the only thing you can do is twist the truth and act like a bully - and you're very good at that.
Why is it that you feel the need to stick up for deadbeats?
Ignorant or not, you show all the visages of a devout bigot.
Though I very strongly disapprove of the acts of dubya, Fat Rush the Doper, and Fox News, I don't grant them the kind of emotional attachment or involvement that would amount to hate. I don't like, love, dislike or hate them. In other words, I carry no personal affiliation or animosity toward them. They may be fine folk. The atrocities they foster on the United States and it's people are not fine. They are inexcusable. I hate those.
You seem unable to see anyone or anything dispassionately, eagerly expressing your loves and hates as if they made the world go around. (They don't.) Very few of them are pleasant things to witness. Most are things that that shouldn't be uttered....(you know, according to the old saying, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all). They shame everyone that hears them.
You really hate so vigorously it must destroy any hope of good digestion. Did you know that there is scientific data showing that a high protein diet settles the tummy?
Why is it that you feel the need to degrade others that cannot defend themselves?
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Hey bdgee, I'd like to think that you're just being contrary for the fun of it. Do you actually believe that there are people who aren't just plain lazy? That there are people who just don't give a crap about responsiblity? Aw... c'mon now.
If its the labels you don't like. Oh well. That's more psycho-bable bs.
There are people who ARE just plain lazy and exploit the system to get all they can to pursue their drug addictions and other irresponsible pursuits. Yes Bdgee it's true. You can dismiss it, be repelled by it, or choose to ignore it, but it exists. I see it every single day.
Unfortunately, there are plenty of needy people who don't have access to the benefits they should because they're not as crafty or capable as those that abuse the system.
I am actually repelled by those who get SSI, Medicare and Medicaid, and squander it on drugs (for instance) rather than food for their children or housing. They use their Medicare/ Medicaid benefits to live in hospitals awaiting their next payment. Or get apts but don't use their checks for the rent? Do you think these people don't exist?
You too Jordan. What world do you guys live in anyway?
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having dabbled in the rental game i can attest to the poor choices made by some. my first tenants had 9, count em 9 adults living there. only 1 had a job. they did manage to squeak by for a year, then gave up the security deposit and bounced. the next folks, had alot of parties, drank alot of beer spent weekends at casinos and hardly ever watered the lawn because the water was to expensive.
i found out quick that if you give an inch they take a mile. if they found you to be soft on payment dates, the next payment was even later until you lay down the law. its unfortunate but it happens, and feeling sorry for folks who make poor decisions isnt something landlords are in the business of doing. i donate to homeless charities, but feeling sorry for parents who feed thier kids ramen noodles because they had to have the newest flatscreen isnt something i feel bad about (except for the innocent kids) but im in no position to dictate some childs upbringing.
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As you know, I can't follow all the OT stuff, but from what I've seen, the argument is not that deadbeats and fools exist. However, the perception seems to be that this cat believes in some sort of Calvinism in which anybody/everybody that's not *totally* paid up, driving a nice car, banking savings, etc etc is a drain on society and should be put out of her/his misery...
Yet, he's concerned that Michael Vick can't throw a football for awhile, simply cuz he tortured some stoopid dogs that couldn't fight very good, anyway...
quote:Originally posted by IWISHIHAD: Turbokid, What kind of car do you run?
its an eagle summit with the motor from a eagle talon swapped in. 300+hp and weighs 2200 lbs.
that puts the power/weight ratio better than that of a viper oh and it often gets mistaken for a geo metro.. i've embarrased many toughguys in more expensive rides.
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