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Dustoff 1
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I keep getting calls and mail from the Republican national committee...

Oh' brother did I ever have fun with one in a phone conversation..

After pinning him to the matt on the issues, he actually told me he was not a republican but was just being paid a salary and commission to get donations!

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Well, I can walk out to the deck, have a cup, smell supper cooking....No reason to believe the power will go out and the roads will be closed while my house is blown away...
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The rain is awesome...what a beautiful night.

I'll miss you all tomorrow...jury duty calls...yeah!

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Hurricane warnings just posted for west coast of Florida.
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Miami!!! I cain't wait to see you again!!! HAHAHA!!!

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Well, here we go...CNBC just stated no "Hurricane warnings" Fox news earlier stated "Hurricane warnings in affect.
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New and old posters, last year many members of Allstocks were without a way to contacting the outside world, they were helped by the good folks of Allstocks...

We cannot have DWE messing up the works when people could be in peril

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Repo,
I live in St Petersburg, 3 houses from the water. I don't mind hurricane threats. We have been fortunate enough to have been missed by the many storms in past couple of years. If we happen to get hit this year, I have insurance and stock in Home Depot, I can rebuild!

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quote:
Originally posted by Dustoff101:
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Originally posted by casper:
Hurricanes,Earth Quakes,Tornadoes and what have you.That is all part of life.It has been here for ever and will be..

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Yes and as a civilized nation it is the responsibility of others to help those in need after such events.

That sir, is precisely the correct answer to these matters. That is the Amish philosophy and it works beautifully. Other certain religious sects follow the same principles, which is -- we help each other, screw the government.

It's just within the last 80 years that America has become real sucklings of the government. You go back in history and look at major natural disasters that occured in the States during the 1800's and you see the government doing very little. The politicians weren't called upon to handle every little detail and giveaway ass-loads of money.

The state of Florida is a model state in this regard. They setup a very fine plan and are able to handle quite a bit without FEMA fouling things up. And the people in Florida, for the most part, rally together and take care of the problems.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Lava:
And the people in Florida, for the most part, rally together and take care of the problems.

Exactly.

I'll turn to my neighbors and community every time before even thinking about turning to government.

However, the most effective way to manage one's own affairs is to prepare for the worst, be vigilant and live well within your means so when the worst does hit you have ample liquidity.

I am amazed at Americans who are so leveraged that when a stiff breeze hits their finances are all of a sudden in shambles. Talk about "bag holders"!?! Typically, responsible taxpayers get left holding the bags of other highly leveraged, ill-prepared Americans who go into debt to buy things they can't afford to impress people they don't even like. Agonizing.

But...but...but...the hurricane this, or the tornado that, or the wildfires this, or the bird-flu that, or the...yadda...yadda...yadda...

Cry me a river...errrr, on second thought...that might lead to your financial ruin.

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Well said Westcott. Someone should nominate you for Official Speaker of Allstocks.

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Hahaha...

Good to see their are other people out there who still believe in personal responsibility, Repo! [Wink]

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W, you claim to be a Bush supporter?

I am amazed at Americans who are so leveraged that when a stiff breeze hits their finances are all of a sudden in shambles. Talk about "bag holders"!?! Typically, responsible taxpayers get left holding the bags of other highly leveraged, ill-prepared Americans who go into debt to buy things they can't afford to impress people they don't even like. Agonizing.


this is the VERY definition of the "Bush Doctrine"....

and he's executing it to a tee....


i asked you why you thought you knew what the terrorists plan is?
you're answer was not very clear....

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Glassman, how many times do I need to post that I am not at all happy about the spending this Administration has done for you to understand that I am not at all happy about the spending this Administration has done?

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Got it?

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getting testy are we? LOL

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Not at all...I just don't understand people who fail to recall clearly articulated posts. [Wink]
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Glassman, you make an excellent point. The U.S. government is leveraged to the hilt. Just the "war" in Iraq has cost $2 t-r-i-l-l-i-o-n!!! Add that to the hundreds of billions Bush gave away to the Gulf coast states, and the hundreds of billions that have been spent post 9/11, and you've got a nation on the brink of complete and utter financial disaster.

When the next Catagory 4 or 5 storm hits the U.S. this summer, how is Bush going to finance government operations to take care of everybody's problem?

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Bush spent this...

Bush spent that...

As if Bush is just sitting there writing checks without the consent of 535 other humans.

Pffffttttttt...

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So I guess it was Big Bird who created the biggest and most expensive government bureaucracy in the history of the U.S. And the most expensive debacle the world has ever seen --The Office of Homeland Security.

And I guess it was the pope who gave hundreds of millions of dollars in debit cards to crackheads, street thugs, murders, rapists, and hoodrats. It couldn't have been Bush who gave people debit cards that were used to buy drugs, guns, prostitutes, and the like...

And there's no way the president spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the Presidential Discretionary Spending account. It must have been somebody else who did that...

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so you're Ward L Churchill, the one who wrote about 9/11?

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I would consider myself more Winston Churchill as opposed to Ward Churchill. Cheerio!

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Debit cards for votes! Ya thats the ticket...
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Lava:
I would consider myself more Winston Churchill as opposed to Ward Churchill. Cheerio!

lol, was responding to "Westcott" and you slipped in...

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Lava:
So I guess it was Big Bird who created the biggest and most expensive government bureaucracy in the history of the U.S. And the most expensive debacle the world has ever seen --The Office of Homeland Security.


As I recall, Big Bird didn't create The Office of Homeland Security, but it was established through passage of the Homeland Security Act in the Senate (90 ayes).

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And I guess it was the pope who gave hundreds of millions of dollars in debit cards to crackheads, street thugs, murders, rapists, and hoodrats. It couldn't have been Bush who gave people debit cards that were used to buy drugs, guns, prostitutes, and the like...


Nope...not the Pope. Nope, not President Bush. But if you guessed FEMA...then you get a Gold Star!

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And there's no way the president spent hundreds of millions of dollars in the Presidential Discretionary Spending account. It must have been somebody else who did that...

And this is different from other Presidents how, Mr. Lava?
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Tex! can't just drop a bomb and then leave readers hanging in suspence, like a commercial break! LOL
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Imagine that...President Bush had to increase Defense Discretionary spending because Clinton had reduced it...Carter/Reagan anyone?

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Bush creates the massive heaps of sh*t and then gives it to congress to fling around. I don't understand why you are trying to over-intellectualize the current financial and bureaucratic status of the U.S. government. Bush is a ultra leftwing economic liberal. Bush craps out these fiscal nightmares and flings his fiscal poo on America like a depressed monkey.

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I am hardly saying much of the spending is not irresonsible, Mr. Lava.

Please focus on what I did say: the culpability is shared by the entire machine, not just one of...one of...its drivers.

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quote:
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Imagine that...President Bush had to increase Defense Discretionary spending because Clinton had reduced it...Carter/Reagan anyone?

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And Clinton didn't ship 160,000 troops to a God forsaken hostile militant Islamist nation. He didn't write a $2 trillion dollar check to pay for an assanine war trying to Democratize a bunch of inbred religious nutjobs who don't want Wal Mart, McDonalds, pornography, shopping centers, and Niemann Marcus.

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quote:
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Imagine that...President Bush had to increase Defense Discretionary spending because Clinton had reduced it...Carter/Reagan anyone?

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good chart W, now let's NOT let others lead US back to asking questions instead of making direct statements...

if HAL wasn't getting so many bo-bids? there might not be as many questions about the spending issues...

Mr. Lava, 2 trillion$ is what we'll have spent in Iraq before we are done, IF everything goes well and nothing worse happens there than already has...

that represents about 1/4 of the total debt this country has now...
we are at about 8.4 trillion$

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quote:
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I am hardly saying much of the spending is not irresonsible, Mr. Lava.

Please focus on what I did say: the culpability is shared by the entire machine, not just one of...one of...its drivers.

But no matter how big the machine is, ultimately the responsibility will fall on the most prominent, central figure. And in the next 10 years poor Americans are going to bear the brunt of this out-of-control spending. Somebody has to pay for it, and it's going to get ugly...

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quote:
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I am hardly saying much of the spending is not irresonsible, Mr. Lava.

Please focus on what I did say: the culpability is shared by the entire machine, not just one of...one of...its drivers.

so...*ahem*

you're Ward L Churchill who wrote the 9-11 article/essay?

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Lava:
And Clinton didn't ship 160,000 troops to a God forsaken hostile militant Islamist nation. He didn't write a $2 trillion dollar check to pay for an assanine war trying to Democratize a bunch of inbred religious nutjobs who don't want Wal Mart, McDonalds, pornography, shopping centers, and Niemann Marcus.

I understand a scant minority appreciates the geopolitical shift that has been occurring over the past fifteen (15) or so years which obviated our move into Afghanistan and Iraq. So I will simply agree to disagree.

I am not sure where you get the $2 Trillion dollar figure, Mr. Lava. While many of your criticisms are generally well-founded, you are exceedingly loose with the facts in which you attempt to underpin them.

I am not sure if this is a matter of intent or simple ignorance, but it really pokes holes in the credibility of your statements. Just some friendly criticism.

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I understand a scant minority appreciates the geopolitical shift that has been occurring over the past fifteen (15) or so years which obviated our move into Afghanistan and Iraq. So I will simply agree to disagree.

that's hilarious W....

Afghanistan was a no-brainer...

the Islamo-fascists were a very very small group of people....

they were not in Iraq... yes, zarqawi was there recovering from an injury, but he was not on sadams "guest-list".....

congress wil have to move to raise the debt limit again within a year....

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quote:
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if HAL wasn't getting so many bo-bids? there might not be as many questions about the spending issues...


Very serious question, glassman:

How many other U.S. companies exist which can perform the scope of goods and services as offered by Hal? Do you have a rough number and perhaps you could offer some names?

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