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Why not admit YOU ARE a HOMOSEXUAL since you LOVE San Francisco so much and you're such a HUGE gay supporter, oh and before I forget, and you HATE America and HATE straight people.
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DWE, You should really update your references. How can you get your arguments from a source that's CLEARLY biased to be homophobic (=> religious nutbags). Gays are perfectly normal, some aren't, the same counts for straight people. Now, if you actually got to know a few gay people, you'd realize how wrong you are, and how prejudiced you are. In another post you say how gays are the filth of this world, that's like talking sh*t about left-handed people, or very tall/very short people, because believe it or not, that is a perfect analogy, in that you DON'T CHOOSE what gender you're attracted to, just like you don't choose to be left or right handed, or to be tall or short. The only thing you choose as a gay man/woman is to either be yourself and be happy, doing what is natural to you, or live a lie and marry someone of the opposite sex and be unhappy and frustrated the rest of your life. You wouldn't choose to be with a guy because that's not natural to you, right? Right, because you can't help being attracted to women (assuming you're a man), you've NEVER made a conscious decision to be attracted to women. You just are! The same counts for gays, they can't help being attracted to the same sex!
Right, well thank you for attending our TOLERANCE 101 class, now please stop spewing your hatred towards gays, we get it, you don't like 'em, let it go already! Do you have any idea how offensive you are sometimes? ... and then the allmighty said "thou shallt not judge" ... lol I'm laughing because, well, you're probably the most judgemental person I've ever seen on this board. You see DWE, what God really meant with that one line is, "BE NICE TO EACH OTHER!!!". That's something to think about because it looks like you have a hard time doing that. Now don't give me the "YOU'RE GAY" comments, that's only offensive to you, not to me.
Also, what "lifestyle" is this you guys keep talking about? What exactly is a gay "lifestyle"? I'm seriously wondering. Is it getting up, eating breakfast, going to work (or trading ), hanging out with friends, going to bed? Doesn't seem that much different from the heterosexual "lifestyle" to me lol
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quote:Originally posted by DWE: God's gonna send you straight down to hell because you just called God a queer! So for your sake, not mine, you better say "I'm sorry" to God before you go to sleep tonight. BOTH OF YOU(S)!
LOL like powerless slaves to an almighty dictator! DON'T MESS WITH THE BIG BOSS UPSTAIRS OR BURN!! hmm, so wait, God can't take a few jokes? So he punishes those who tell them to hell? We should only say nice things about him? Is he really that insecure? Or perhaps just narcissistic :-O that's a little bit "gay" don't you think?
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DWE why is the gay issue so important to you? It really is a minor issue in our country. There is really no bigger percentage of gays in our country than there ever was. As far as a moral issue a Christian has to follow what is in the bible but there is nothing in the bible that says these people should be hated and there is nothing that says in our laws that the gays should not be equal before the law. As a christian gay is a lfe style that is not for me but a gay is always welcome in my church to listen to the word of God. I hope you are not the type of man that would harm these people because they are different.
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But that's the only "defense" a liberal can make and that is to accuse a Straight, Conservative Republican male that he is gay. That's because liberals are usually "brainless" and can't come up with anything better. It's nothing new..... C'mon... Sleep on it and come up with something better tomorrow. You can do better than that.
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quote:Originally posted by jordanreed: There is nothing WRONG with being homosexual or practicing it. It gets so tiring to hear these same antiquated arguements. It aint goin away..its here to stay..because its natural. For someone who is gay to try to be straight?..Now THAT is wrong and unnatural
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To be Gay is not natural. If it's natural Jordan...when's the last time you stuck your wang in another man? Bottom line, the parts don't fit. "Nature" doesn't design processes that don't work.
I have known several gay's, men and women, in my life. They all have one thing in common...some type of major dysfunction in their home life when they were kids. In gay women there is almost always a history of some type of abuse. I don't believe they chose to be gay(who would choose that?) They had some missing element or unhealthy element in their upbringing that led them toward a gay lifestyle...an abandonment of interest in the opposite sex.
A gay co-worker of mine in his 40's, very educated, told me once while we were at lunch about his childhood and the "neglect" of his father from entire family. His father never did anything with them, and didn't show any affection to his mom. He actually said, "I think if my dad had thrown a baseball with me once in a while things may have turned out much different". This same co-worker has child with a gay woman. He is furious with the woman because she has been teaching their daughter, who is 11 now, to fear men. She actually told her daughter to live life "assuming all men want to hurt you". She tells the poor girl, "every man I ever loved abandoned me". Again, an unhealthy upbringing that could, and probably will, drive this girl to lesbianism.
Another gay friend of mine used to tell me what is huge wimp his dad is, and that his mom runs the show all the time.
As for the "Biblical" take on homosexuality. I would love to see someone try to make a valid stance that being gay is OK with God.
Jordan, there is something wrong with it. It's evidence of hurt, pain and wrong doing in our society. Most homosexuals have a sad story to tell about pain and abuse, and due to their hurt they now will live a lifestyle in which most relationships last less than two months and most of those relationships never amount to anything more than sexual rendevous. That's sounds wrong to me.
Of the handfull of gay's I have known NONE of them are happy, and "wish" things had been different.
Disclaimer...I don't want anyone yelling at me. This is my opinion based on experience with people I know. Note my use of the words "most, and "probably". I don't claim to know everything about everyone.
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Research by US psychologists suggests that 80 percent of men who are homophobic have secret homosexual feelings. This finding lends scientific support to the long-standing speculation that those who shout the loudest against homosexuality have something to hide.
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I stand by what I said.. As for your God comment of what he wishes?... God is not human or even a living thing..therefore there is no thought or wishing goin on...god is an abstract concept,made up by humans,for humans that is MY belief
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Since homosexuals has been around longer then the bible and the bible is just a book written by some peasants 2000 years ago I think I will take science over a fairy tell book and leave the gays too themselves.
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A book written by peasants? There is much science the Bible. In fact, the Bible claimed things like: the earth revolves around the sun, that life is in the blood. If people would have paid closer attention to the Bible, there would never have been things like blood-letting, or being murdered because you didn't think the sun revolved around the earth...
Many of the Jewish dietary laws laid out in the Bible are just good scientific health facts that we can still use today.
Even if you disregard all the spiritual stuff, there is much solid, valid science in the Bible.
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According to biblical "science", the earth was created 3 days before the sun, the moon and the stars...
Scientists say there are many stars whose light takes millions of years to reach the earth. How, then, could they be 6,000 to 8,000 years old as many Christians allege?
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In Christian cirlcles, there is much debate whether the earth and the universe was created in 7 24-hour days.
The Bible says that God is a God or order and design. But the Bible is also clear that God does not work on man's time table. It's hard for our minds to think how things could be with the absense of time.
I have no explanation for the star thing. In my mind, if God had the power to create the stars, he had the power to let their light shine to earth immediately even though they were billions of miles away. In Genesis he said he created the stars for light. According to scripture, it would appear as if there light upon the earth was instantanious.
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quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: God can change physics? Maybe, but that throws all scientific argument out the window.
Again, I am not equipped to really engage in this topic about creation vs. evolution.
I realize the idea of a supernatural being creating the world and everything in it is completely hard to grasp or believe or even consider. I'm not going to argue that or argue that people should believe in Biblical creation.
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That's just....unbelievable. If you hadn't provided a link I'd have sworn you made that up. That's just too fitting of a description. Especially the "wind up" part. Just amazing.
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"Easy to wind up and can be the source of great mirth". That part really had me laughing. Like I said, that description is spot on. So if someone here calls him a "spod", they're actually elevating hin somewhat, right?
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the only "scientific" evidence avilable to support the biblical Creation story is that life is so complex that it couldn't have happened by accident...
unfortunately? as you review the background of the scientist who profess this "theory" you find they mostly have degrees from religious colleges and universities or were raised to believe the creation story before they ever went to college.
in other words? ther is no scientific basis to argue that Creationism is a valid scientific theory...
the only valid argument against eveolution is that we haven't documented it... since it is a very slow process? and the "scientific method" has only been around since about 1200 AD? it's gonna be a while till it can be proved...
we have a lot of solid evidence in the fossil record... dinosaurs to birds is alock... we have thousands of "intermediate" specimens in fossil form...
natural selection is not a theory we know it works....
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Whether the earth was formed by a bang, meteor collision, cosmic mutating organisms, etc., this material would have had to been created somewhere, sometime, by something.
If man came from a gooey puddle of gunk or fell out of trees as apes, this "life" had to have had a powerful force or element that created it.
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), hanging out with friends, going to bed? Doesn't seem that much different from the heterosexual "lifestyle" to me lol
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hmm, so wait, God can't take a few jokes? So he punishes those who tell them to hell? We should only say nice things about him? Is he really that insecure? Or perhaps just narcissistic :-O that's a little bit "gay" don't you think? ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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