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Aren't you running late to the Monday afternoon John Birch society meeting NR? Better hurry along now, they don't appreciate tardyness any more than they do open mindedness. Hurry now, you've already missed the prayer sessions led by the guru invited religious leader from the KKK.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: there have been so many cultural mistakes it's unreal....
they just don't think like we do...
take bounties for instance....
big $$$$ have have been offered for turning in terrorists....
you know why they aren't working? the Hill People don't want CASH... to them it's worth no more than toilet paper...
offer them GOLD bullion and or quality gemstones? and they'll cough these guys up....
I dunno Glass, that would work with some, but not all. Some of these guys really believe it their soul is at stake, material things do not matter to them. Others have more to lose, (family or loved ones), if they say something. I don't think it is as easy as just throwing gold or gems at them.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Aren't you running late to the Monday afternoon John Birch society meeting NR? Better hurry along now, they don't appreciate tardyness any more than they do open mindedness. Hurry now, you've already missed the prayer sessions led by the guru invited religious leader from the KKK.
...and even if that were true, which it isn't, it has exactly WHAT to do with what we are talking about? Resorting to personal attacks doesn't make your flop of an arguement any more credible Bdgee.
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Bdgee, lets say you get your wish and nazi Bushy is impeached and all his cronies are removed with him. You are now president. What would you do about Iran?
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Ho, ho, ho, shall we research the back post to see who's a name caller.
If it isn't true, maybe it's because they too don't believe you line of sickness is anything but cheer leading for a dishonest lost cause.
And by the way. Just what has regurgitating the Party line that got us in the sickening mess in Iraq got to do with an intellegent discussion about "What to do about Iran ?"
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Ho, ho, ho, shall we research the back post to see who's a name caller.
If it isn't true, maybe it's because they too don't believe you line of sickness is anything but cheer leading for a dishonest lost cause.
And by the way. Just what has regurgitating the Party line that got us in the sickening mess in Iraq got to do with an intellegent discussion about "What to do about Iran ?"
ATTENTION! ATTENTION! IGNORE Natural Resources. He only spouts party line....
EOM.
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I don't know the details, NR, I wouldn't start out with preconcieved goals. One thing I wouldn't do is build a campaign of lies and propaganda then use the people's money to promote it so I could change the subject from rigging elections.
I'd would learn what was needed by actually listening to the agencies that we pay to gather intellegence.
And before that, I'd make sure I appointed people to the various postions of the Government that felt responsible to the nation as described in the Constitution, rather that the vision and hopes of the American Nazi party.
And, unlike you, I don't feel it is an impossible task. I don't feel overwhelmed by people just because they were born wealthy and daddy was notorious and I see no reason to follow blindly what they say is the cause of freedom, when in actuallity, they only want to put more of the people's money in their pocket.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Ho, ho, ho, shall we research the back post to see who's a name caller.
If it isn't true, maybe it's because they too don't believe you line of sickness is anything but cheer leading for a dishonest lost cause.
And by the way. Just what has regurgitating the Party line that got us in the sickening mess in Iraq got to do with an intellegent discussion about "What to do about Iran ?"
ATTENTION! ATTENTION! IGNORE Natural Resources. He only spouts party line....
EOM.
Very good. You're beginning to see the problem!
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And, unlike you, I don't feel it is an impossible task. I don't feel overwhelmed by people just because they were born wealthy and daddy was notorious and I see no reason to follow blindly what they say is the cause of freedom, when in actuality, they only want to put more of the people's money in their pocket.
Yeah that damn Bourgeoisie... There you go, bringing class into it again.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: ATTENTION! ATTENTION! IGNORE Natural Resources. He only spouts party line....
EOM.
quote:Very good. You're beginning to see the problem!
No just demonstrating how silly your statement is. It doesn't matter what I say to you or what we talk about. All you ever do is claim I'm spouting party line. It's part of your whole character assassination campaign that you so frequently resort to.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: ATTENTION! ATTENTION! IGNORE Natural Resources. He only spouts party line....
EOM.
quote:Very good. You're beginning to see the problem!
No just demonstrating how silly your statement is. It doesn't matter what I say to you or what we talk about. All you ever do is claim I'm spouting party line. It's part of your whole character assassination campaign that you so frequently resort to.
quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Supper time......bye yaw'll......
"I don't know the details, NR, I wouldn't start out with preconcieved goals."
...And that pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it Bdgee? You are so quick to claim Bush is doing it all wrong, yet you admit you wouldn't even know where to begin.
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why do the conservatives keep saying the polls are no good? according to those very same pollsters? hillary can't win the next presidency....
i'd say the polls are pretty close to accurate....
BUT? they don't show 80% only about 60%....
when they are favorable to Bush? they are reliable...LOL...
fact is? the GOP is in big trouble with the next election, and the only reason there is any hope they won't lose the house and senate is that the democrats are in total disarray...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: why do the conservatives keep saying the polls are no good? according to those very same pollsters? Hillary can't win the next presidency....
I'd say the polls are pretty close to accurate....
BUT? they don't show 80% only about 60%....
when they are favorable to Bush? they are reliable...LOL...
fact is? the GOP is in big trouble with the next election, and the only reason there is any hope they won't lose the house and senate is that the democrats are in total disarray...
First, I'm not a conservative, and I don't vote along party lines, though I think one party has it way more right than the other.
Secondly, I don't believe in polling as a valid measure of opinion. It is too easy to skew the results to whatever you want them to be.
Don't put words in my mouth.
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I have as much right to post as you. Some have said even more.
What's a "4art?"
quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: You've never heard of SARCASM Gordon Bennet or should I call you 4art? ... Shove off, your comments are pathetic. Maybe you should post your poop-rocket picture for me since DWE isn't here for you to spam.
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quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: I have as much right to post as you. Some have said even more.
What's a "4art?"
quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: You've never heard of SARCASM Gordon Bennet or should I call you 4art? ... Shove off, your comments are pathetic. Maybe you should post your poop-rocket picture for me since DWE isn't here for you to spam.
....I never said you didn't have a right to post pathetic comments or pictures of poop-rockets. I just suggested you shove off and post them somewhere else.
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Thanks for your suggestion, let me think about it.
Ummm...
No.
quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: ....I never said you didn't have a right to post pathetic comments or pictures of poop-rockets. I just suggested you shove off and post them somewhere else.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Good God no! And promote Cheney? We'd be fighting eight or nine uncalled for wars within a month.
Whatever, that's not the point. Fire everybody. Impeach them all. Democrat and Republican, Independent and Libertarian...... it still doesn't fix the geopolitical problem of the middle east and radical Islamic fundamentalism.
Imperialism is the problem. The US is imperialistic thinking it is the only country in the world and that it is the world. The US needs to start taking care of its on people first instead of telling other people how to live. The US has gotten rich off the backs of others and has no right to dicating right and wrong until it atones for its crimes.
Solution to your question: Treat others how you would want to be treated. The US needs to stop being an imperial power and analyze why people of the world are so upset with its policies.
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quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: Thanks for your suggestion, let me think about it.
Ummm...
No.
quote:Originally posted by NaturalResources: ....I never said you didn't have a right to post pathetic comments or pictures of poop-rockets. I just suggested you shove off and post them somewhere else.
Oh well, it was worth a shot.
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At present, the US is the only nation to use nuclear weapons against a civilian population (or indeed against any target at all).
quote:Originally posted by aBirdsOfFire: Imperialism is the problem. The US is imperialistic thinking that it is the only country in the world and that it is the world. The US needs to start taking care of its on people first instead of telling other people how to live. The US has gotten rich off the backs of others and has no right to dicating right and wrong until it atones for its crimes.
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quote:Originally posted by Gordon Bennett: At present, the US is the only nation to use nuclear weapons against a civilian population (or indeed against any target at all).
Because of that, IMO, it is our responsibility to step up and make sure no one else uses them the way we did. Even if that means MAKING them not make the same mistake we did. I'm sorry boys and girls, but AMERICA has to be the parent here, and DO THE RIGHT THING.
Apparently you haven't heard the speeches from the "president" and religious leaders of Iran, talking about what they would do with nuclear weapons if they had them.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Supper time......bye yaw'll......
"I don't know the details, NR, I wouldn't start out with preconcieved goals."
...And that pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it Bdgee? You are so quick to claim Bush is doing it all wrong, yet you admit you wouldn't even know where to begin.
I didn't say I wouldn't know where to begin, doofus, I said I wouldn't start out with preconcieved notions and refuse to consider others.
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Oh don't you feel so safe that an alcoholic that says god speaks to him is handling this little simple world crisis. Get real you kool aide dirnkers and help us get rid of this bozo before all there are is ashes to fight over
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Yep Gordon, and that global hatred relly got going when we went after Serbia for that whole Kosovo thing. The Med and Eastern Europe were definitely Anti-American. Now remember, we went into that region to keep the Serbians from committing Genocide. Funny thing about Iraq, Saddam was responsible for killing many many more people than 'ol slobodan and crew. It was OK for us to be there, but it's not OK for us to be in Iraq. I mean, we gotta face it, it was OK for Clinton to get us into areas that were way messier than Iraq (That being Kosovo, and Somalia) yet it's not OK for us to be in Iraq? If we have no reason to be in Iraq, WE had no reason to have gone there either. And yes, I have been deployed to Kosovo and Iraq, and about half my buddies were in Somalia. That being said, just remember that most of what you hear about Iraq is for ratings on the TV, it is not as bad as the media is trying to portray. The only reason Clintons debacle in Somalia (absolute sewer of a country we should just let them kill each other off because there is nothing there worth anything) didn't get the attention that Iraq is getting is because of the scope of it.
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Funny! I started a thread about "what to do about Iran" and we are over in Somalia now...
What I don't understand is this: if we are fighting terror in the world, why is Saudi Arabia our best friend in the Middle East? 9/11 terrorists were all Saudis. Saudi Arabia is sponsoring Wahabist Fundamentalist mosques all over the world and yet nothing is done against them. For over 20 years we are saying Iran is the head-sponsor of terorism all over the world and yet we are doing nothing. For the past 15 years we knew Osama Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri were dangerous thugs and yet the government didn't even try to eliminate these two.
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quote:Originally posted by bdgee: Supper time......bye yaw'll......
"I don't know the details, NR, I wouldn't start out with preconcieved goals."
...And that pretty much sums it all up, doesn't it Bdgee? You are so quick to claim Bush is doing it all wrong, yet you admit you wouldn't even know where to begin.
I didn't say I wouldn't know where to begin, doofus, I said I wouldn't start out with preconcieved notions and refuse to consider others.
Don't misquote me again!
... The point is, you don't have the information Bush has, and thus, you are nothing but an arm-chair quarterback screaming at the top of your lungs that "nazi Bush" is always doing it all wrong.
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quote:Originally posted by Persia: Funny! I started a thread about "what to do about Iran" and we are over in Somalia now...
What I don't understand is this: if we are fighting terror in the world, why is Saudi Arabia our best friend in the Middle East? 9/11 terrorists were all Saudis. Saudi Arabia is sponsoring Wahabist Fundamentalist mosques all over the world and yet nothing is done against them. For over 20 years we are saying Iran is the head-sponsor of terorism all over the world and yet we are doing nothing. For the past 15 years we knew Osama Bin Laden and Al Zawahiri were dangerous thugs and yet the government didn't even try to eliminate these two.
Saudia Arabia requires special treatment due to certian cultural, religious and geopolitical circumstances that are unique to that country.
The first big step in dealing with Saudi Arabia is being able to remove our lips from their oil teat at a moments notice.....then we could really ramp up the pressure and get some significant cooperation out of them.
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