quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: call was right--even though they may have guessed at it... used his hip, then arm, then stiff-arm as legs keep moving: basically an aikido move that defensive backs are taught, how to disrupt the receiver with minimal "review" exposure...this time, he got caught...
Champ Bailey, MVP...what a nice "torque" motion to get into position--even though he looked like Leon Lett getting punk'd by Don Beebe at the end of the play...great challange by Bellicek on that one...40:60 he gets a touchback....
Good game...
wrong on the call. your still on the jousting.
If you watch, defender is running down field 2 steps ahead, they only collide and joust (which should be allowed) after the receiver pulls his shoulder.
I wont even bitch about bailey (great interception) but your a smart man tell me the logical probabilities that a guy running forward on the one yard line, with a guy running at him forward but at an angle collide and the ball goes dirrectly sideways. hmmmm sounds almost impossible but didnt cause the game.
on a pass, both defender and receiver have the right to the ball and they can kill each other as long as they do not do it on purpose. ie.they are running/diving/jumping for ball
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: How about the Denver defense, how'd they play?
not very good. until given the lead.. then better but. none of the fumbles were caused by bone crushing hits, they were stupid ass one hand carying into trouble.
13 points??? All thay had.
LOL, yep intercepted in endzone. AFTER DRIving,(you proud of that) 5 turnovers and you barely win by 2 scores. I like denver but not a kick ass performance by them
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ya, "right to the ball," but defender was not playing the ball...he was maneuvering the receiver...don't blame him, though, it's likely a TD otherwise, and he *might not* have gotten called...that's one of the toughest judgments to make, even on replay. But, ya, I'm the receiver? You can't impede or harass me beyond the free zone at scrimmage line...
quote:wont even bitch about bailey (great interception) but your a smart man tell me the logical probabilities that a guy running forward on the one yard line, with a guy running at him forward but at an angle collide and the ball goes dirrectly sideways. hmmmm sounds almost impossible but didnt cause the game.
oh, you mean the challenge? I'd have to see that one again, with the views the ref was seeing...looked outta bounds to me, but it *was* a smart chellenge...
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Defense wins championships! why do you think Da Bears are in the position their in. Stars shine... even if Champ did run out of gas.
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Both games sucked. I took the over on the first (41) and the Patriots in the second getting 3. Tomorrows another day though!
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Defense wins championships! why do you think Da Bears are in the position their in. Stars shine... even if Champ did run out of gas.
yes they do.
thats why i worry about Denver, they didn't stop the pass, Champs interception was in the endzone.
I would rather denver win than any of the 3 but, the pats drove up and down the field, you can't expect 6 turnovers every game.
I'm appalled at how the pats looked todya
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: Both games sucked. I took the over on the first (41) and the Patriots in the second getting 3. Tomorrows another day though!
LOL you took over with washington playing!!!! they OUCH>
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quote:Originally posted by Upside: Both games sucked. I took the over on the first (41) and the Patriots in the second getting 3. Tomorrows another day though!
LOL you took over with washington playing!!!! they OUCH>
With Washington playing in a downpour. Pretty smart guy, huh?
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I told you before the season started Up, that Denver was going to cover some spreads this year. And Sports Ill. was wrong about them Bears preseason as well,huh? What way are you going on that game Upman?
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: I told you before the season started Up, that Denver was going to cover some spreads this year. And Sports Ill. was wrong about them Bears preseason as well,huh? What way are you going on that game Upman?
It's going to be awfully hard for me to bet on the Bears. I don't know if I'd want to win. Might take the under.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Defense wins championships! why do you think Da Bears are in the position their in. Stars shine... even if Champ did run out of gas.
yes they do.
thats why i worry about Denver, they didn't stop the pass, Champs interception was in the endzone.
I would rather denver win than any of the 3 but, the pats drove up and down the field, you can't expect 6 turnovers every game.
I'm appalled at how the pats looked todya
You never know... One really hard hit on Manning, or some ints., then what does Indy have? Broncos are #2 stopping the run. You live by passing, you die by the passing.
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quote:Originally posted by BuyTex: Keith, know you hate it, but it's the Colts' year...as long as Peyton is there to run "the Borg"
without him? they'll just run into the wall, and backup and flash their lil lights...like those lil "robot" toys...
tex, the colts are dancing that the pats got bumped.
weren't the colts the best offense ever last year, they scored 3 against the pats. Manning is a joke.
I had these same arguments last year. This year I'm worried about the d's they play, I think pitt has a better chance than denver. Although, indy won't stop the denver run like the pats did.
Remember, Peyton has done as much as that guy from miami, i forget his name but he won ****.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Defense wins championships! why do you think Da Bears are in the position their in. Stars shine... even if Champ did run out of gas.
yes they do.
thats why i worry about Denver, they didn't stop the pass, Champs interception was in the endzone.
I would rather denver win than any of the 3 but, the pats drove up and down the field, you can't expect 6 turnovers every game.
I'm appalled at how the pats looked todya
You never know... One really hard hit on Manning, or some ints., then what does Indy have? Broncos are #2 stopping the run. You live by passing, you die by the passing.
thats the thing, denver had no d. today.
what denver does have is a great run and indy's D sux. thats the key next week. unless indy also implodes.
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...as a matter of fact that's almost exactly what Denvers' avg. points allowed was this year, that they gave up at home.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Defense wins championships! why do you think Da Bears are in the position their in. Stars shine... even if Champ did run out of gas.
yes they do.
thats why i worry about Denver, they didn't stop the pass, Champs interception was in the endzone.
I would rather denver win than any of the 3 but, the pats drove up and down the field, you can't expect 6 turnovers every game.
I'm appalled at how the pats looked todya
You never know... One really hard hit on Manning, or some ints., then what does Indy have? Broncos are #2 stopping the run. You live by passing, you die by the passing.
If *I* were the defensive coordinator, that's all I'd do--bang Manning.
Otherwise, it dudn't matter about the D--they outscore you...
quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: 13 points allowed, that's all you get...LOL!
remember, without turnovers you have 0 points.
if you look at that call we discused earlier watch the ref that makes the call. (not they guy on the play) some guy from across the field and late. that being said. the pats sucked and denver is probably gone next week.
LOL your proud of that game defensively?
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tex, best offense ever last year, 3pts in playoffs and patriots didn't bang him.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: Defense wins championships! why do you think Da Bears are in the position their in. Stars shine... even if Champ did run out of gas.
yes they do.
thats why i worry about Denver, they didn't stop the pass, Champs interception was in the endzone.
I would rather denver win than any of the 3 but, the pats drove up and down the field, you can't expect 6 turnovers every game.
I'm appalled at how the pats looked todya
You never know... One really hard hit on Manning, or some ints., then what does Indy have? Broncos are #2 stopping the run. You live by passing, you die by the passing.
thats the thing, denver had no d. today.
what denver does have is a great run and indy's D sux. thats the key next week. unless indy also implodes.
keith, we actually agree--earlier in the season, I responded that the Pats were the only ones who could Indy in the playoffs. It takes *team ball* to stop them, and who has been better than the PATS at total, team-ball the past few years? Nobody. Unfortunately, it's falling apart for them, like other post-parity teams...a good "signal" was that great kicker's missing his shot when it still mattered...think of the clutch plays he's made during their great run...
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I agree Tex, it'll be hard for Denver at the Borgs' home turf. I know, I've seen a Denver/ Indy game back when Romo was still playing, Terrell Davis' last season, And it's LOUD in there.
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Shutting down "last years" best offense to ONLY(key word) 13 points in the playoffs? What's wrong with that again?LOL! It is about how many points on the board.
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quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: I told you before the season started Up, that Denver was going to cover some spreads this year. And Sports Ill. was wrong about them Bears preseason as well,huh? What way are you going on that game Upman?
It's going to be awfully hard for me to bet on the Bears. I don't know if I'd want to win. Might take the under.
Up, check out what the Bears have been allowing opposing offenses to score...just a thought
quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: It WAS pass interference. Listening to Phill Simms doesn't make it, not pass interference. Just because you look at the ball, doesn't say you can elwbow him out of bounds.
Besides it's 27-13 Broncos! That one play don't make the game, Broncos kicked a$$!LOL
LOL. watch again. no touching after 5 yards, denver guy grabbed him to slow him down. (i actually think nothing should be called, i like jousting) but saying the pats guy stopped him from making the catch and they deserved it at the 1 is silly.
I think the pats sucked more than the broncos kicked ass but good luck, i think shanahan is a great coach. and would rather they win than anyone else in afc.
Me thinks you have some sort of "vision" problem. Maybe it the "vision" that being a rabid fan makes things you want to see "appear"?
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Tension mounts, lol... Ruthlessburger, Fast Willy and da Bus seeking revenge and a shot at the Broncs. . . against Manning and The Borg, who think they can go all t h e W A Y !!!
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Cowher coaches like crap. they've had some good teams the past few years and they always find a way to lose. then again so does manning, usually not the coaches fault tho dungy not too bad
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