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JBCak47
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Just remember there has been talk of a regiem change in Iran now...

Start saving your money for THOSE!

I think we will be going into Iran regardless of who get's voted in as President. However I think Bush will stay more committed to Iraq, and if we are holding Dinars, this will certainly help our investments.

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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Just remember there has been talk of a regiem change in Iran now...

Start saving your money for THOSE!

I think we will be going into Iran regardless of who get's voted in as President. However I think Bush will stay more committed to Iraq, and if we are holding Dinars, this will certainly help our investments.

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Byrd, i think you are in the wrong Biz dude...
why don't you try some standup???
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this thread is probably in worse condition than iraq... But... I was thinking -- Has anyone thought about opening an iraqi bank account? I tried to email The bank of Baghdad at info@bankofbaghdad.net but my ISP wouldn't let the email go thru... I'll try again with another provider...
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this thread is probably in worse condition than iraq... But... I was thinking -- Has anyone thought about opening an iraqi bank account? I tried to email The bank of Baghdad at info@bankofbaghdad.net but my ISP wouldn't let the email go thru... I'll try again with another provider...
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what do you guys think the odds of this thing succeeding are??
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not very good.
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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
not very good.


funny thing is... i heard the same thing about the google ipo...


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quote:
Originally posted by tfct24:
what do you guys think the odds of this thing succeeding are??

Probably not very good. I bought 125k just for the fun a quite awhile ago but don't know the correct price.
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no way... i'd avoid this at all costs.. as Iraq is fycked up and US's policy on bombing and killing anyone in iraq that disagrees with what the US wants is like shaking a bee's nest.. its just making things worse....

go with pips.. i'm getting 2% daily on my lottery ticket of $450.


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Looks like no one is buying the new Iraqi Dinars on Ebay these days..any idea what happened suddenly to Dinar market?
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its still hot on ebay.. last time i looked there were 8 pages of sales and today there are 11
also there has been some good news from iraq that may be good for the dinar.. yesterday they announced that jan 30 will be elections and that 19 countries have forgiven 80% of iraqs foreign debt, so i think that when the new government gets together and starts working again they wont have alot of previous debt to pay and probably start being a profitable economy. Hopefully.. that is.

also the exchange rate is 1-1460
good luck to anyone who owns some dinars.

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In my opinion the iraqi dinar is going to be phased out when they come out with the new euro dollar which will become the money used world wide. Just because you think that the dinar is a hott item is wrong and you should stay away from it. Just to show you you that is is not as hot as want it to be, why is it that it has been out since october 2003 and still has not increased in value instead it has dropped in value. Plans for the new euro dollar is scheduled to begin in early 2005

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Its interesting to say the least..
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Sgt of Arms...

Why would the Euro become the 'official' money of IRAQ?

Also lets not forget, if the FRENCH AND GERMANS AND BELIGUM PEOPLE WERE important, IRAQ WOULD STILL HAVE SADDAM...

Seriously... You are aware that Iraq will never be admitted as a member of the European Union any time soon.

Further more, WHY WOULD THEY PHASE IT OUT in two years when it took S-I-X Months simply to 'phase' it in??

Also, the dinars have more security features in it then AMERICAN dollars. Over 15 if I recall.

Why put so much effort in money that would be phased out in 2-3 years FROM THE INCEPTION DATE?

Also, it doesn't matter if the money is recalled, you can open up electronic accounts in Iraq that will convert it automatically in the event of a recall, which WILL happen, I just don't think it will be 2005, or even 2006.

No one said it isn't risky, however I think your views are a little off. Espically the one concerning that the 'Euro' (trash) will be the only money accepted in Iraq...
www. investorsiraq . com check this site out for more information.


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hey stalkandsnipe or paid pumper. I guess you are not up to date the UNITED NATIONS and the works that they are doing. It was the UNITED NATIONS that is trying to go euro dollar and have been doing so country by country for the last 5 years. IRAQ is on the list for changeover late 2005. So the IRAQ gov. had to do something now since the overthrow and so the iraq dinar was made. All of the world will be one currency by 2006 or 2007 according to the U.N. Hint hint one world government (the U.N.) and one world currency.

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Srg., are you a Moron?
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yngnvstor12 no I am not a moron, and would you ask that after I posted nothing but the facts and the truth? I follow what the U.N. is doing on a weekly basis. Also since I am a bible reader and a strong believer with JESUS CHRIST in my heart, it also say's that this will happen in the beginning years of 2000. That there will be a one world government and a one world currency. We have seen isreal become a nation as the bible say's, and it also talks about the million man army which it is well known and documented that china has over 1 million men in theie army. I suggest that you get your hands on a bible and read revelation.

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Ummm..not to intervene but, the Euro was created to compete against the US dollar, the current dominent currency....but now the Euro is winning....this should help some: http://www.a1-guide-to-gold-investments.com/euro-vs-dollar-articles.html

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Thanks marty. that helps backing me up to my ealier post and yngnvstor12 take heed. It is experience that is posting here not 12 year olds like you hint yngnvstor 12

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Arab States Not Ready to Forgive Iraq Debt

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By TAREK AL-ISSAWI, Associated Press Writer

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates - Arab countries made clear Tuesday they are far from ready to commit to a deal to forgive more than $30 billion owed them by Iraq (news - web sites), despite U.S. pressure and a recent debt-relief package by other major countries.

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The hesitation on the part of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait — both strong U.S. allies — could have widespread ramifications for the effort to help Iraq get back on its feet economically. A weekend deal by Russia, Japan, Europe and the United States to forgive 80 percent of their portion of Iraq's debt hinges on Arab countries going along.

Both Kuwait — Iraq's largest single creditor — and Saudi Arabia have said no debt-relief commitments are possible until after Iraq has an elected and internationally recognized government.

Iraq takes the first step in that process in January, when it plans to hold elections for a National Assembly that is to draft a new constitution. If that is ratified, an election to choose a national government will be held in December 2005. It remains unclear at what point in that lengthy process the Arab countries would view a debt-relief deal as possible.

Iraq's interim prime minister, Ayad Allawi, has repeatedly urged Arab nations to commit to debt relief, saying Monday that he "looks forward to Iraq's Arab brothers forgiving their debts from Iraq in the very near future."

On Sunday, the major economic powers of the so-called Paris Club, including the United States, Japan, Russia and European nations, announced they would write off 80 percent — or more than $31 billion — of the $38.9 billion that Iraq collectively owes them.

But a clause in that agreement gives the group the option to suspend part of its debt reduction if it is not matched by Iraq's other major creditors, led by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Iraq has said its foreign debt is hindering postwar reconstruction, which also is struggling amid the country's persistent insurgency.

Kuwait said Monday it would support "a major reduction" in the $15 billion it is owed — but only if a deal was negotiated with an internationally recognized and elected Iraqi government and then approved by the Kuwaiti parliament.

The country's foreign minister, Sheik Mohammed Al Sabah, said Kuwait knew "how important this is, so that Iraq can regain some of its financial abilities," according to the official Kuwait News Agency.

Kuwait's refusal to forgive the Iraqi loans was one issue Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) used as justification for invading Kuwait in 1990.

Saudi Arabia, which is owed $9 billion, also has not changed its position.

In January, the country told former Secretary of State James A. Baker III during a debt-relief lobbying trip that it was willing to forgive some Iraqi debt — but only after Iraqi elections are held.

Saudi Arabia also made participation by Saudi companies in Iraq's reconstruction a condition of any debt relief.

Iraq owes an additional $19 billion to private Saudi companies and banks, which would not be included in any deal between the two governments.

Iraq owes Qatar $4 billion and the United Arab Emirates $3.8 billion. Both countries have adopted stances similar to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia.

Unlike the Persian Gulf states, the much-smaller and poorer Jordan is unlikely to write off Iraq's debt, a Jordanian government official said Tuesday on condition of anonymity.

Jordan might allow Iraq to repay the debt in small installments with a long grace period, or exchange the debt for Iraqi investments in Jordan or vice versa. Jordan has a much smaller economy compared to its gulf neighbors, with few natural resources.

Iraq — despite its recent violence — is considered one of the region's largest untapped markets, and infrastructure and reconstruction contracts are expected to be worth tens of billions of dollars.

Iraq's debt carries annual servicing charges of $7 billion to $8 billion.

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Associated Press writers Diana Elias in Kuwait and Jamal Halaby in Jordan contributed to this report.

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LOl the united nations holds no power over anyone... its just a place for foreign countries to come to the US and complain..

There already is a vote of no confidence on Mr. Anan.. (spelling)...


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This can be construed as a hot iron under Iraq's arce to get their government in order. IMO it's good news.
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Personally, I think the world should be jumping in there to help round up all the murderers, weapons and help them clean up the country, and rebuild, so it can be productive. This would be worth more than "foregiving" any debt. Who the he** cares about debt, when there are thousands of murderers, well armed, running around the country and committing mass atrocities? If they're not captured, they could be running around in OTHER countries. JMHO.
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murderes... uh yeah ok.. no they are patriots..

Just like the first us citizen were terrorists when the british tried to invade and take over american colonies...

Funny how similar events are spun in different directions based on race.


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I didn't mention anything about race. And if you haven't been paying attention, the murderers in Iraq chop off heads, decapitate bodies and torture people. I've NEVER heard of the colonists committing these types of atrocities. Interesting how you would compare colonists of the US to insurgents, many from other countries, murdering in Iraq. Perhaps Michael Moore could spin your conclusions in his next "not a documentary".

Oh yea, even France has changed their minds: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=574&ncid=574&e=13&u=/nm/2 0041123/wl_nm/iraq_france_dc

and, it would be appropriate to add this as well, for an opposing opinion: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041123/ap_on_go_su_co/scotus_guantan amo_trials

This really needs to be added as well: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&e=4&u=/afp/20041123/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_media_qaeda

Marty

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uhhhh right... the american patriots were fighting muskets to muskets. Iraqi patriots are fighting AK-47s and rocks to bombers/night vision/long range missles/infared vision/tanks/jets. They both were fighting against occupation...

You sir are a grade A moron.

gobble gobble!!!!


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Ok ohsnap,
So chopping off heads is considered credible as a warfare tactic in your feeble mind? Conducted by "out of country so called religious millitants"? Perhaps you consider chopping off heads as your method of defending against someone breaking into your house? LOL....Al-Jazeera fan I'm sure.....I bet Osama is a patriot in your mind as well?

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Yes he is dumbass.. Osama wants all western nations OUT of the middle east and for the US to quit supporting Israel. no such luck so towers go bye bye!
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quote:
Originally posted by ohsnap:
Yes he is dumbass.. Osama wants all western nations OUT of the middle east and for the US to quit supporting Israel. no such luck so towers go bye bye!

i wish more people knew this truth about osamas hatred towards the united states (and israel).. but unfortunatly most dont and its too bad because any day now another terrorist attack will occur. The reasoning is in his speaches, people should learn to listen, especially the people in charge of dropping bombs.

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anyone in these i bougth 100K of them a while back for cheap
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thought i'd dig this up to show you how attitudes change......

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Well, it is kinda interesting to see folks before I became interested in posting on allstocks..

Hey glass, howz about a good fishing storie, or a good sarcastic overview of whats going on , on offtopics, sense you began posting...

What ever happened to Art anyway? Did ya Harpoon him with an obsolete Naval Missile?

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Fish Story - My 9 year old son caught a 3LB. 6OZ, rainbow trout a couple of weeks ago. Caught on a Mepps rooster tail, using a spinning rod. He was proud...................... So proud he did not mind the several miles of walking the stream...... That look on his face when it hit, is worth all the dry casting I did...........
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Well, your son is hooked for life, he'll never forget a Rainbow that big!
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Dustoff101 - Neither will my wife... Hangs on the wall looking at here everyday. She does not like it.. But it is a man thing... LOL......
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