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glassman
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LOL byrd, i just have too soft a touch on the key board dometimes....

as long as i stick two two fingers i ok....LOL

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 19, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
LOL byrd, i just have too soft a touch on the key board dometimes....

as long as i stick two two fingers i ok....LOL

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 19, 2004).]



Dometimes?? hahah

Who is byrd? I think its time for the special olympics for you ahahahha


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thye have special olympics for me..LOL
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there's nothing funny about providing capital to terrorists....

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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
there's nothing funny about providing capital to terrorists....


[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 19, 2004).]


It's funny seeing an illiterate try to use a message board. hahaha


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you show up here and 1 days later you think you know me?
stick to the issues...
you are supporting terrorism...

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at least you are smart enough to recognise that dog knows what he is doing, but your only picks are the dinar and cmkx?????LOL and you think i'm illiterate?
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yew hava lot ta lernyasef about DD
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what?
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Glassman,

Dinars AREN'T an Investment?

Ummmmm okay...

I will buy the dinars at .001 and when they are traded on the world market, forces such as oil, stability, and time will make the dinar go up in value.

If the Dinar is currently trading at .0006x to the dollar, WHY ISN'T THAT AN INVESTMENT? Espically when the OLD DINAR traded at .30 to the US DOLLAR.

There are also terrorists who are getting help from AMERICAN CITIZENS WITH AMERICAN DOLLARS, SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

There are a number of companies and investment firms selling the dinar, some with the Better Bussiness Bureau...

Yes I am SURE some rebels and insurgents are using the Dinar to make money, not much different then some off-shore hedge funds working on behalf of or for Hammas...

However it would be almost stupid not to make money off this. Besides, you can even open a bank account in Iraq and trade on the ISX when it becomes open to foreign investors.

I contacted an Iraqi Bank, Al Warka Bank, and they have emailed me back the info to open an account. www dot investorsiraq dot com is a pretty good Iraqi Dinar discussion Forum. Check it out, there is information on opening and contacting banks in Iraq. A bonus of the Iraqi Bank account is that you can buy Dinars AT THE REAL EXCHANGE RATES...

However you have to wire money to Jordan, Lebenon or Syria then onto Iraq... Jordan is the best of the three, in my opinion...


THIS IS AS RISKY AS IT GETS... However I think throwing a couple of hundred at this, when I have money, will be a fun learning experince. Presdient Bush, as well as The Iraqi Interm Govt has given the GREEN LIGHT to foreign investors, we just have to wait for the ISX to open up to the world...


-John-


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so, you are saying you personally don't care if you are supporting terrorism....

maybe i should e-mail this to some of my friends at Fort Bragg, and see if they agree with you...

ism300 let me introduce you to the real byrd..JB's second persona here...

i apologise for assuming you were he, if you aren't, but i still say that supporting trrorists is WRONG, and that until the international restrictions are lifted in this money, it is still BLACK MARKETEERING and i hope the treasury dept is doing their job and tracking it down...

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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Glassman,

Dinars AREN'T an Investment?

Ummmmm okay...

I will buy the dinars at .001 and when they are traded on the world market, forces such as oil, stability, and time will make the dinar go up in value.

If the Dinar is currently trading at .0006x to the dollar, WHY ISN'T THAT AN INVESTMENT? Espically when the OLD DINAR traded at .30 to the US DOLLAR.

There are also terrorists who are getting help from AMERICAN CITIZENS WITH AMERICAN DOLLARS, SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

There are a number of companies and investment firms selling the dinar, some with the Better Bussiness Bureau...

Yes I am SURE some rebels and insurgents are using the Dinar to make money, not much different then some off-shore hedge funds working on behalf of or for Hammas...

However it would be almost stupid not to make money off this. Besides, you can even open a bank account in Iraq and trade on the ISX when it becomes open to foreign investors.

I contacted an Iraqi Bank, Al Warka Bank, and they have emailed me back the info to open an account. www dot investorsiraq dot com is a pretty good Iraqi Dinar discussion Forum. Check it out, there is information on opening and contacting banks in Iraq. A bonus of the Iraqi Bank account is that you can buy Dinars AT THE REAL EXCHANGE RATES...

However you have to wire money to Jordan, Lebenon or Syria then onto Iraq... Jordan is the best of the three, in my opinion...


THIS IS AS RISKY AS IT GETS... However I think throwing a couple of hundred at this, when I have money, will be a fun learning experince. Presdient Bush, as well as The Iraqi Interm Govt has given the GREEN LIGHT to foreign investors, we just have to wait for the ISX to open up to the world...


-John-


you say everybody else is doing it why shouldn't i.....

this is why the terrorists survive....
and if you really think this is justification, then you are part of the problem too....

wiring money to Jordan Syria Lebanon??????

sick.....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]


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quote:
Originally posted by trgfunds:
Am I wrong or shouldn't you be able to purchase 1,000,000 Iraqi Dinars for 685 dollars or so? Current exchange rate is 1459.27/dollar. So far the lowest price I've seen on ebay is 840 USD. Is there some huge markup or something?

Yes, this is where money is being made. The markukp is probably the only place money will be made in this deal.

Q: If you had tens of millions of dinar at your disposal, and it's supposed to be worth 1:3 or 1:1 against the USD, why would you be selling them for a measly 15% markup? Why not wait 5-10 years and be a multimillionaire?

A: Because there are lots of gullible people on the planet willing to send you money for worthless junk.

-R


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Ummmm Jordan isn't a complete terrorist haven like Syria or Lebenon is...

And if you haven't realizied, MANY Democrats and Republicans are making money off the Dinars too... You are lying to yourself if you don't think the rich and powerful are profiting off this war as well, rich, democrat or republican alike... The Dinars is a way to profit off of it.

Is it SICK? No more then how people profited from Jpaan and Germany...

And how am I supporting terrorism if I buy dinars that are CERTIFIED from being from the Iraqi Banking system?

Glassman, I think you need to go re-read some history and get a better understanding of what is going on. You thinking that Dinars is terrorism is so off-base. What happens when the Dinar is traded on the world exchange? EVERYONE IN THE WORLD ARE TERROISTS? So all the BANKS that will exchange the dinars will be helping terrorists? GIVE ME A BREAK! LOL, that is so WRONG in thought process I don't know where to begin...

Again, So far we have launced the WORLDS LARGEST INVASION IN HISTORY, 200,000+ TROOPS... How many military people have been killed? 1050-1080? While EVERY death is terrible, in light of launching an INVASION BIGGER THAN NORMANDY and ONLY losing 1100 troops in 16 months is pretty impressive, considering we lose that many troops worldwide each year to accidents...

How many AMERICANS DIDED FROM CAR ACCIDENTS in America alone?

Launching the LARGEST INVASION history has ever seen, 16 months of insurgents fighting and we have lost only 1100 troops... How many were from accidents versus direct killing...

Keep in mind we would lose that many in ONE HOUR of fighting on ALL FRONTS in the Pacific, European and North African Theaters durring World War Two...

-Byrd-


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Are you the same ROBIN0 that is the basher on Qbid?


FYI The dinar's value as HISTORICALLY been backed by the value of the contries NATIONALLY CONTROLLED OIL PROGRAM...

No oil is flowing so, hence, low value of the Dinar..

Do you think it would be trading at .0006x if the whole country was producing oil? I don't think so...


And either do Pakistan, Iran, Lybia, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, turkey, Syria, Lebenon and others from buying up BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DINARS...

All those countries have been buying DINARS buy the truck load... and if you haven't realizied,

MUCH LIKE STOCKS, CURRENCY is also based on part by Emotions...

Again, why are you posting here if you do not think this is a good investment? lol...

I just don't get people sometimes...

Go find something else, if you think this is 'bad', why keep posting? Pharm, I swear some of these peeps need the med's you sell...

A little Paxil in food or some good ol' MDMA in their water supply would do the trick!

-Byrd-


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If you can afford the 100,000 dollars, you get roughly 100,000,000 dinars...

If the Dinar goes to a penny, you have One Million dollars in currency...

If it goes to two cents, two million...

Well even if you can't afford the $100k,
$1,000.00 gets you 1,000,000 dinars...

If the dinars reaches .01 per dollar (Libya is trading at .07 and that was BEFORE we lifted sanctions) you will have $10k in currency...

Again, look at the prices of currency. NONE IS AS LOW AS THE DINAR? WHY? Because it's the newest currency formed, the instability of the region and Iraq and the little to no flow of oil...

However this will change and if it does go to .01 , you would have 10k in cash...

You could do a lot of good with that money if you really wanted to...

-Byrd-


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OK, point made. i will still aruge politely without resorting to calling names and i shouldn't say it's sick.... WTF am i talking about it IS sick...LOL


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Glassman...

That actually made me smile...

You best be careful


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honsestly byrd, you are correct, it doesn't seem to matter , the powers that be are walking all over all of us and the only choise we have is get rich so we can be just like them...
UGGHH


welcome back, i'll try not to provoke you ...LOL


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quote:
Originally posted by glassman:
you say everybody else is doing it why shouldn't i.....

this is why the terrorists survive....
and if you really think this is justification, then you are part of the problem too....

wiring money to Jordan Syria Lebanon??????

sick.....

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]


Wiring money to the middle east to open a bank account is wrong but buying oil to run your car is OK?

As usual you make no sense.


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LOL at least you admit you can't understand...


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is300

THANK YOU

That is the end-sum of all of this.

Glassman do you drive? Do you use ANYTHING with Plastic in it? If so you too are supporting terrorism by helping the 'terrorists'.

Do you use a plastic pen at all throughout the day? That is OIL...

And who is the civilian biggest consumer of Oil in America? The AIR LINE INDUSTRY...

Remember here are some facts:

One barrel of Oil contains 42 Gallons of Crude Oil.

Of which, one barrel will net you 19.5 Gallons of Gasoline.

9.2 Gallons of Home heating fuel...


AND A WHOPPING

4.1 GALLONS OF JET FUEL...

(http://www.commodityseasonals.com/crude_oil_futures_3.htm)

So, We know that an average plane flight across the United States can use 30,000 GALLONS OF JET FUEL...

So it will take the importation of roughly 800 Barrells of CRUDE OIL to make the required use of Jet Fuel for ONE SINGLE FLIGHT, USING 30,000 GALLONS OF FUEL...

However, the average car can hold a tank of about 20 gallons... So it takes 800 barrels of Crude Oil for One flight, however those 800 barrels will provide enough Gasoline to power 800 CARS FOR ABOUT A WEEK OR SO...

800 CARS full OF GASOLINE FOR EVERY COMMERCIAL JET FLIGHT...

This is the ONLY reason we are importing 19 MILLION barrels of Crude Oil a day...

-Byrd-

[This message has been edited by JBCak47 (edited September 26, 2004).]


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so, you have access to some secret info?

of course i know all this. and quite a bit more.......
why don't you post up at off topics some...

there is a difference between sending US$ out of your own account and buying things you need to survive in this crazy world tho..

it's about choices...why choose to do something like this? there are plenty of other ways to get ahead....

JB claims to be from NYC...you want to block911 JB? or you want more of it?

i would/will choose to buy an electric car if when we get them on the market....

they work i know....
the politicians shut them out AGAIN but that still doesn't make it correct....

AMEP is an american oil co trying to get going why don't you PUMP them instead of adding to the problem ???


the internet and cheaper phone rates are helping alot to cut flights, and will continue.....

there is a lot of research being done right now on transgenic yeasts to improve efficiency of fermentation of agricutlural products that aren't needed i the food supply...these people need MONEY, a lot MORE money they aren't getting it because we don't seem to be investing in them .....

there are a lot of things that need changing that means by everybody, not just the politicians...

[This message has been edited by glassman (edited September 26, 2004).]


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i have done a little DD on the finances of the Dinar too, waiting for the exchange to go legal, and the real question will be how many they print won't it????

seems to be a problem with running printing presses too much all over doesn't there? LOL


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Why don't you let me put my money where I want and worry about your self?

Again...

Glassman, you are BUYING an electric car? So I'll take it you still use gasoline, huh?

Again...

I see a chance to make money. The Central bank of Iraq gets American Dollars, I get Cheap dinars... I will hold them, MUCH LIKE A STOCK... and HOPEFULLY, much like a stock, I can exchange them at a later date, for a much higher price then when I got them.

You can pass by the dinars, however whole GOVERNMENTS are buying them, knowing their value is MUCH GREATER THEN .0006 per dinar...

Lol, now you care about my money going into CMKX AND THE DINARS!!! LOL! Man, ohh man...

-Byrd-


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"i have done a little DD on the finances of the Dinar too, waiting for the exchange to go legal, and the real question will be how many they print won't it????
seems to be a problem with running printing presses too much all over doesn't there? LOL"


F-L-U-S-H


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i have the right to express my opinion, for now, and i will.

no doubt the way things are going that will change soon too...and it will only happen because people ask for it...


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has anybody ever disagreed with you that you didn't try to intimadate????LOL

you oughta know better by now....


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That's fine, Glassman.

HOWEVER


You called me 'sick' for investing in the Dinar...

You are free to make fun of me at will, however if you are going to call me 'sick' at least peg it on something real, like my (at times) crude jokes or as the Beautiful
BettingBabe says, truckers mouth...

Don't call me sick for investing in currency... That's all

-Byrd-


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"intimadate?"

People usually do what I say. If not, I shoot them. Fairly simple to understand.


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quote:
Originally posted by JBCak47:
Again, why are you posting here if you do not think this is a good investment? lol...

Because I wanted to share my opinion. Why are you so opposed to hearing other peoples' opinions? Why don't you move to Iran where you're not allowed to have your own view? You'll have an easier time buying Dinars there.

-R


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Move to Iran you say....


Where Men are in charge...

Where guys can have all the wives they want...

But I have to give up bathing regularly and call America 'The Great Satan', EVERYDAY before, durring and after my meals?

And I have to crap in next to a camel?

No thanks... Long Island is a pretty nice place to live.

-John-



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glad to see you are up to form john...LOL

just had to test your resolve to avoid the, the, well you know....

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There's nothing wrong that I can see in buying dinar.. but as an investment I'd be very cautious.. forget what the media is saying.. read up on blogs that military people are posting and they are all buzzing about how bad the situtation is there and that they do not belong there and a Civil war might erupt soon..

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And Iraqis aren't seeing them.

Concrete blast barriers, barbed wire, sandbags, watch towers and thousands of armed guards make Baghdad look like a city under siege.

Kidnapping for ransom is rampant. Last week a father whose 12-year-old son was kidnapped was told by a male caller to pay $13,000. "This money will be used to buy missiles to attack the Americans. We defend the country while you're asleep," the voice said. The father paid and the boy was freed.

Body searches, alien to this conservative and proud people, are now routine even when visiting a hospital patient.

At U.S. military installations, signs in English and Arabic warn that "use of deadly force is authorized." On the east bank of the Tigris River, across from where U.S. diplomats and Iraq's Cabinet ministers work, a "no swimming" sign denies Iraqis relief from the heat.

Underscoring the hair-trigger atmosphere are the guns constantly pointed at the public by American soldiers in Humvees or Westerners' bodyguards in SUVs as they navigate through the gridlock. This sense - that foreigners rule them and that death may be a heartbeat away - accentuates the average Baghdadi's sense of helplessness.

Still, the city's spirit isn't completely broken.

Ismail Ibrahim's DVD rental store in Sadr City, a Shiite district that is home to about 2 million people, skips the gory videos in favor of Egyptian romantic comedies and action movies from India and Hollywood.

"We are used to being blown up and killed," said Ibrahim, 30. "There is fighting almost every night here and people rent these movies to help take their minds off the misery around them."

Shoppers thronged outdoor food markets less than a mile away from where militiamen and U.S. forces clashed Wednesday.

In the commercial al-Rasheed and al-Motanabi streets in the Old City, people seemed oblivious to the heavy gunfire coming from Haifa street across the Tigris. Street soccer is popular in the afternoons and in the commercial Karadah area hundreds of shoppers hunt for bargains from the mountains of electrical appliances imported mostly from China and South Korea.

At Firdos Square, where Saddam's statue was toppled in April last year, a billboard depicts white doves with fluttering wings.

"Now we can take off to a brighter future," it says.


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