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former muslim huh? Dr. Ergun Mehmet Caner is co-author of "Christian Jihad" (Kregel, June 2004), and is professor of Theology and Church History at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. The Caner brothers won the 2003 Gold Medallion for their book "Unveiling Islam" (Kregel). You can contact him at www.XXXXXX
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this is just another example of the situation.... Pat Robertson would NEVER LIE either, but SOMEBODY is lying..or are they???
i've seen the video where Pat makes this claim too...
No casualties? White House disputes Robertson comment 'The president never made such a comment' Wednesday, October 20, 2004 Posted: 6:31 PM EDT (2231 GMT)
EAU CLAIRE, Wisconsin (CNN) -- A White House spokesman denied Wednesday that President Bush told Christian Coalition founder Pat Robertson that he did not expect casualties from the invasion of Iraq.
"The president never made such a comment," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said.
Senior Bush campaign adviser Karen Hughes, a longtime confidant of the president, said she was "certain" Bush would not have said anything like that to Robertson.
"Perhaps he misunderstood, but I've never heard the president say any such thing," Hughes said on CNN's "Inside Politics."
Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, told CNN in an interview Tuesday night that he urged the president to prepare the American people for the prospect of casualties before launching the war in March 2003.
Robertson said Bush told him, " 'Oh, no, we're not going to have any casualties.' "
it's ludicrous at some level....
In his CNN interview, the religious leader described Bush on the eve of the invasion as "the most self-assured man I've ever met in my life."
"You remember Mark Twain said, 'He looks like a contented Christian with four aces.' I mean he was just sitting there like, 'I'm on top of the world,' " Robertson said on CNN's "Paula Zahn Now."
"And I warned him about this war. I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, 'Mr. President, you had better prepare the American people for casualties.' "
He said that's when the president told him he did not expect casualties from the invasion.
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so much for the argument that the guy thought he war was going to be HARD, or TOUGH.....
NO LOL In the interview, Robertson also said he wishes Bush would admit to mistakes made.
more quotes.... McClellan said Bush did meet with Robertson in Nashville before the invasion, as Robertson recounted. But McClellan said Bush always has recognized that war "requires sacrifice" and that there would be American casualties
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former muslim huh? Dr. Ergun Mehmet Caner is co-author of "Christian Jihad" (Kregel, June 2004), and is professor of Theology and Church History at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. The Caner brothers won the 2003 Gold Medallion for their book "Unveiling Islam" (Kregel). You can contact him at www.XXXXXX
Yes former, means he isn't anymore. He left the muslim religion, which makes him "former", and converted to Christianity.
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for those of you that think this is more LIBERAL spin i saw the interview on FOX NEWS today...
Insurgency Threw a Wrench Into Military's Supply Planning Despite improvements, the Army is still stretching to meet goals for equipping soldiers. By John Hendren and Mark Mazzetti Times Staff Writers
October 19, 2004
WASHINGTON — Prewar forecasts that failed to account for a lengthy and bloody insurgency have left the military struggling to provide all the equipment needed to do battle in Iraq, defense officials said Monday.
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Wow, glass, you are a bit on edge today. What's wrong? Did your crack dealer get busted?
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"We had communications problems, we had infrastructure problems in the theater," said Gary Motsek, director of support operations for the Army Materiel Command at Ft. Belvoir, Va. "The war clearly went on longer than expected, based upon what we thought we had to do. And the nature of the war changed."
poor guy will probably get fired for telling the truth too...
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perhaps you could tell me of just one war that went just as planned.
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LOL DQR not the point and you know it.... Pat Robertson lied??? i doubt it...in my opinion, he is telling ht truth, cuz Bush thought he would be the LIBERATOR HERO...
that's called delusional.....
the pattern is repeated over and over, the real conundrum is how does he get awy with it?
quote:Originally posted by glassman: for those of you that think this is more LIBERAL spin i saw the interview on FOX NEWS today...
[b]Insurgency Threw a Wrench Into Military's Supply Planning Despite improvements, the Army is still stretching to meet goals for equipping soldiers. By John Hendren and Mark Mazzetti Times Staff Writers
October 19, 2004
WASHINGTON — Prewar forecasts that failed to account for a lengthy and bloody insurgency have left the military struggling to provide all the equipment needed to do battle in Iraq, defense officials said Monday.
we are making more terrorists every day...why is that????
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just skimmed over that article. One thing they failed to mention (or I skimmed past it) was were the "Average replacement rates were coming from". What I mean is are these averages coming from training camps throughout the grassy fleilds of the midwest, or some other non-desert area? The problem with sand is how abrasive it is. That alone just having helicopters sitting there doing nothing will cause damage, as well as to the tracks of tanks as it pushes through the sand. So if in fact those averages are coming from areas that are clearly not as harsh as the current climate/conditions they are functioning in, they are pretty much meaningless. Although it does go to show that war can not be answered by averages.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL DQR not the point and you know it.... Pat Robertson lied??? i doubt it...in my opinion, he is telling ht truth, cuz Bush thought he would be the LIBERATOR HERO...
that's called delusional.....
the pattern is repeated over and over, the real conundrum is how does he get awy with it?
Do you really think the President did this to come across as a hero? I mean really? There were reasons for going in there aside from the alleged precense of WMD's. That was the front most issue, but there are plenty of other reasons to have done it. Like I have said before, its all just opinion though.
quote:Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco: Ok sooo you refuse to answer the question or you just can't?
LOL it's rhetorical....the answer is obvious besides, you don't have a valid point... and you don't have an argument to support... try defending a postion....
attack, attack attack, with nothing...LOL i've seen and smoked plenty of losers before you... make a point.
quote:Originally posted by DiQuiRiesco: perhaps you could tell me of just one war that went just as planned.
Glass wants to know if he can use the "A" team here, wait wait, Bush lied about the "A" Team, their plans never came together. Bush was paying for Mr. T's gold.
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: LOL it's rhetorical....the answer is obvious besides, you don't have a valid point... and you don't have an argument to support... try defending a postion....
attack, attack attack, with nothing...LOL i've seen and smoked plenty of losers before you... make a point.
Glass I have been arguing this stuff with you for quite some time and the only thing I have seen you smoke is a twenty rock. Now granted you did make quick work of that crack rock, but as you and I both know, I am way out of your league.
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quote:Originally posted by futuresobjective: Do you really think the President did this to come across as a hero? I mean really? There were reasons for going in there aside from the alleged precense of WMD's. That was the front most issue, but there are plenty of other reasons to have done it. Like I have said before, its all just opinion though.
put the peices on the table..taste them..LOL
NO WMD.. Pat Robertson says Bush didn't expect casualties...why not?? cuz he KNEW there was no resistance and no WMD to defend the country with????...LOL
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Glass I have been arguing this stuff with you for quite some time and the only thing I have seen you smoke is a twenty rock. Now granted you did make quick work of that crack rock, but as you and I both know, I am way out of your league.
you don't even argue DQR...you make PRONOUNCEMENTS like your fearless leader...LOL
it's a propaganda technique, not thinking...
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quote:Originally posted by glassman: put the peices on the table..taste them..LOL
NO WMD.. Pat Robertson says Bush didn't expect casualties...why not?? cuz he KNEW there was no resistance and no WMD to defend the country with????...LOL
just simple linear logic...
kindof caught you off-guard with this????
never even considered the possibilty??? maybe??? LOL the truth is right in front of you.. and i've been trying to show it to you....
quote:Originally posted by ohdagagain: Glass wants to know if he can use the "A" team here, wait wait, Bush lied about the "A" Team, their plans never came together. Bush was paying for Mr. T's gold.
hey ohda.... i'm not the one in LALALAND..... half of you are ready to start WW4 or 5 or whichever you want to call it and the other half are praying for God to come down and SAVE US from it.... it ain't funny....it's sick
and in the middle we have this guy with his finger on THE BUTTON.......who can't even form a sentence on his own???? this is a NIGHTMARE....
quote:Originally posted by glassman: hey ohda.... i'm not the one in LALALAND..... half of you are ready to start WW4 or 5 or whichever you want to call it and the other half are praying for God to come down and SAVE US from it.... it ain't funny....it's sick
and in the middle we have this guy with his finger on THE BUTTON.......who can't even form a sentence on his own???? this is a NIGHTMARE....
and you guys are joking about it....
Nah actually we are joking about you, because you ARE the one out of touch with reality. You have been coerced by the worry mongers and you are now one of them.... the glass is half empty isn't it... be honest.
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is this why they hate US???? NO, they hate US because they THINK we are trying to FORCE them into accepting our religion....i know, you don't think so...ASK THEM why....
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