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Esteban Member	posted December 04, 2004 13:31 quote: Originally posted by MW: well I got booted from chat and cant get back in lol. MW, I had the same problem last night. Just keep putting your password and e-mail address in the correct places and resending. On the fourth try I received my confirmation. Steve IP: Logged
MW Member	posted December 04, 2004 13:36 [QUOTE]Originally posted by penny-trader: [B]how long does it take to get a message back to confirm you account? I have been waiting all mornign for my confirmation e-mail. they want members in there they better speed up the process. I was going to go in and chat with you when you first posted you where in there. Rod you might need to reregister because the confirmation was in my email by the time I pulled up a page and signerd in. it should be almost instant IP: Logged
suzainiee Member	posted December 04, 2004 13:59 .....catching up on reading the thread. Penny-Trader and Bill great posts about Here TV (Christmas orginial movie that reeks) and Logo's concerns about being on basic cable. QTN is setting the benchmark high for others to "try" to imitate. Frank rocks! IP: Logged
Ric Member	posted December 04, 2004 14:21 But you know, Here! talks about all the old movies that they bought that has gay content. But really until the 90's how many movies were there that were gay content and also good. All the big budget films stayed away from the subject. And the only good movies that they may have like did they get them?. Not sure. I had a gay friend that loved Footloose or I guess any Kevin Bacon movie and you here on TV shows, Spartagus. I really don't see HereTV getting any of these movies. That really is the same for Q but at least Q has original programing. Ric quote: Originally posted by suzainiee: .....catching up on reading the thread. Penny-Trader and Bill great posts about Here TV (Christmas orginial movie that reeks) and Logo's concerns about being on basic cable. QTN is setting the benchmark high for others to "try" to imitate. Frank rocks! IP: Logged
King Crimson Member	posted December 04, 2004 14:52 no problems signing on...instant confirmation... IP: Logged
Daytrader1983 Member	posted December 04, 2004 14:57 This ones for "poot poot" and lil. Poot Poot made a good point, and I respect that. But lets get some things straight, pardon the pun. Gays probably want to feel normal, right? After all they are at the center of some serious current issues. Now Sex In City is very popular. They watch it, enjoy it, and feel like a normal t.v. viewer. They probably wouldn't like a network that gives them shows they are supposed to like because they're gay. You need to consider the critical aspect when you invest. Here, it's the feedback from the gay community. I'm telling you now, for QBID to fly, QBID needs a huge chunk of those shows to be a hit. In other words, it's a stretch. IP: Logged
permanentjaun Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:30 Again you're missing the point. You have your own idea of what a homosexual person is. For instance just look at the current Real World season on MTV. There are two homosexual males on it,Karamo (sp?) and willie. They are two entirely different people. Karamo is more of a masculine man and Willie certainly has more feminime qualities. You, nor anyone else, are qualified to say what is normal and how gays should act. That is why there is a large fight in our nation right now. The government is trying to put out their own image of gay life. Some homosexuals may feel like they just want to fit in but then there are the thousands and millions that want a voice. Not even a voice, just their own show that caters to what they are interested in. You've completely missed the point anyways. All shows out today that are homosexualy slanted are the shows that are stereotypical about what homosexuals are supposed to like. They typically show the gay man as being feminime and what not. They do this because that is what the American stereotype is and the writers need a way to show that the character is gay. Sort of like how we have a picture in our head about what someone looks like when they're angry. People can be angry but still have a smile on their face. This wouldn't work on television because then if the viewers see the person smiling they think they're happy and the point of the character being angry is missed. QTN will not have to do any of this because it will be assumed that the characters or hosts are homosexuals. With all the behind them they can talk about what is important to them and not try to fit into any stereotype. QTN is exactly what the GLBT community needs. They provide quality programming, apparently unlike Here!, and shows that aren't stereotyped, which Logo might have to be since it will be basic cable. I'm sure this post is extremely unorganized but I have all these thoughts running through my head because you are just so ridiculously wrong. You didn't reply to my previous post either. Matt IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:36 For the GLBT community by the GLBT community. Interactive TV. First on so many fronts it blows my mind. IP: Logged
Ric Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:38 permanentjaun I glad to see you all caught up with this stock. You are making a valuable assit to this board. Ric [This message has been edited by Ric (edited December 04, 2004).] IP: Logged
permanentjaun Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:39 See that's one point I completely forgot. The owners and people running the network are gay. I'm sure they have a lot better opinion as to what they want to see on television than heterosexuals. For us to say what they want would be like Martha Stewart running ESPN. She'd probably put Polo on 24/7 because it's a great wealthy country living sport. IP: Logged
permanentjaun Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:41 I'm trying RIC. Trust me I'm glued to the screen most of the day reading these posts. IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:42 Just for anyones information. I instantely recieved confirmation last night and had no problems with the Q message board. IP: Logged
Ric Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:44 The only thing that bothers me about chat rooms is you get those morons in them that want shut up like now. If they would learn a little before opening there mouth it would be better. Ric IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 15:45 Nice post Matt, Thanks IP: Logged
suzainiee Member	posted December 04, 2004 16:02 Ric, I logged on to Q--no problem. I saw your name and tried clicking on it, but nothing happened. I probably didn't read the directions. I was so excited about this new addition. Speaking of movies, have you seen Alexander? The acting, the action, the scenery--I thought it was fantastic. My husband had watched the Discovery special. I didn't. I had to rely on my fading World History memory. lol It did slow down with the flash forwards, but that was needed to give the viewer time to catch their breath. It would be a great addition to the Q library--after the dvd and television runs, of course. Thanks for all of your dd. Hope the wife and kids are well. IP: Logged
lilpennypincher Member	posted December 04, 2004 16:03 Hi just got back home.....don't have much time but wanted to make a few quick notes. First off, I must say, I'm sorry for the quick blinkies that may have offended some. In a mood today..... Secondly.........Bravo to Matt for his previous 2 posts..Great job. You are so.....right. Keep up the good work. There is too much stereotyping going on here of what the GLC Should be watching. I think Q is on the right track and will know soon when the sub #'s come out. Good day all. Lil IP: Logged
River Member	posted December 04, 2004 16:39 permanentjaun, nice posts, bud... ~River~ (Patience is my greatest weakness in trading, I love action too much) IP: Logged
Clyde Crashcup Member	posted December 04, 2004 16:46 quote: Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Hi just got back home.....don't have much time but wanted to make a few quick notes. First off, I must say, I'm sorry for the quick blinkies that may have offended some. In a mood today..... Secondly.........Bravo to Matt for his previous 2 posts..Great job. You are so.....right. Keep up the good work. There is too much stereotyping going on here of what the GLC Should be watching. I think Q is on the right track and will know soon when the sub #'s come out. Good day all. Lil I like your blinkie things. Blink on ! IP: Logged
River Member	posted December 04, 2004 17:01 Blink away! (Reading all this text makes me go crosseyed sometimes...blinkies are a nice change...music to my eyes) ~River~ IP: Logged
Poot Poot Member	posted December 04, 2004 17:16 quote: Gays probably want to feel normal, right? After all they are at the center of some serious current issues. Now Sex In City is very popular. They watch it, enjoy it, and feel like a normal t.v. viewer. They probably wouldn't like a network that gives them shows they are supposed to like because they're gay. You need to consider the critical aspect when you invest. Here, it's the feedback from the gay community. I'm telling you now, for QBID to fly, QBID needs a huge chunk of those shows to be a hit. In other words, it's a stretch. [/B] I Brought up the show Sex in the City because it is on a PREMIUM channel. Also the are alot of reasons why (particulary gay men) LOVE that show. No need to go into those reasons...if you were a gay man you would know. The point was that g/l WATCH TV!!!.. and will subscribe to a premium channel to watch the shows they like. You say that all gays go to drag shows and gay bars....and then you say they wouldnt watch gay tv because it "gives them shows they are supposed to like because they're gay".... You seem a bit confused and are contradicting yourself. I think that once QTN is available to the g/l community they will GLADLY subscribe. Poot Poot IP: Logged
Daytrader1983 Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:00 To matt and poot. I like to talk stocks, no personal business. QBID does not have anything to offer. That's right, nothing. Gay travel? Gay movies? Gay comedy? Are you telling me that gay people are going to go somewhere because it's gay? They're going to laugh more because a comedians gay? A movie's going to get better because there's gays in it? You are out of your minds. IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:09 What is your position? IP: Logged
MW Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:21 daytrader 1983 if you are not gay how can you know best what gays want. frank is gay and so is most of the QTN staff so I think they should have a better idea about what they want than you would or I would for that matter. just my 2 cents worth and probably overpriced at that IP: Logged
ARI Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:26 I think that people in alternative living situations will watch q because it IS something different... It is their network and their shows, dealing with their issues. The same way there are networks for women (WE or Lifetime) and Men (Spike), I truly think that a network for the gay community will be sucessful, it will appeal to the gay community..... Why wouldn't anybody gay or straight want to watch programming geared towards their lifestyle...... IP: Logged
permanentjaun Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:30 Where can they go right now to hear about places that are gay friendly? Where do they get their gay sports? Where do they hear about events for the gay community? Where can they watch a gay comedy show that isn't restricted by exec's saying they're crossing the line with the gay content. I understand what you're saying that no one would go see a gay comedian because he's gay even if he isn't funny and you don't listen to the artist, you listen to their music. For example though, a homosexual may be watching MTV. The music is popular and they could be enjoying themselves a lot. Then an Eminem video comes on with a ton of homosexual references and how being a homosexual is a bad thing. He may say he doesn't mean what he says, and I personally believe him, but saying youre sorry sometimes isn't enough. A lot of what the Q Network is about is just giving the GLBT their own share on broadcast television. If you look at Q's programming a lot of it isn't described as being gay programming. That's what they want. They just want programming that treats them as equals, which they are. Q Network is not entirely original and/or gay programming. When QBID signed up with the Associated Press that had nothing to do about the network being for the homosexual community. It's just one more way they wanted to SERVE the gay community. There will be the programs about gay life specifically, but for the most part this network is here to serve the gay community and not necessarily be about the gay community. This network is for the GLBT to have a place of their own that doesn't judge, ridicule, contradict, or discriminate them. Better yet, I doubt they're going to any of these things about the heterosexual community now that they have their own network. IP: Logged
permanentjaun Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:31 By the way guys. www.qtelevision.com Their programs page now works. Still simple with only descriptions but I'm sure they'll put pics up eventually. Good stuff. IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:35 BTW U4 was lurking on the forum page last night. I said hello and he disapered. IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:37 Hi ARI,,welcome. IP: Logged
bill1352 Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:40 the idea the g/l community might not like Q is not realistic. if your into nascar you watch the races & shows about nascar, football the same. if your a democrat you watch major tv news & cnn, if republician fox. each person or group of ppl watchs things they relate to. the only way Q will not be a hit in the g/l community is if the programming is subpar. if its entertaining, informative & educational it will be watched. will they pay to see this programming?? look at nascar with in the car channel's or the NFL's every game ppv, same with NHL & NBA or MLB. the WWE charges $40 for a 3 hr show & huge numbers watch because it interests them. the main 2 things that determine Q's success is the number of carriers & the quality of the programming. [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited December 04, 2004).] [This message has been edited by bill1352 (edited December 04, 2004).] IP: Logged
ARI Member	posted December 04, 2004 18:43 thankx fire very new to trading have been learning alot. IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:02 quote: Originally posted by ARI: thankx fire very new to trading have been learning alot. I am on here now. Check it out. http://www.qtelevision.com/login.asp IP: Logged
tqn Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:11 quote: Originally posted by Daytrader1983: To matt and poot. I like to talk stocks, no personal business. QBID does not have anything to offer. That's right, nothing. Gay travel? Gay movies? Gay comedy? Are you telling me that gay people are going to go somewhere because it's gay? They're going to laugh more because a comedians gay? A movie's going to get better because there's gays in it? You are out of your minds. i am just wondering why you are here, in the qbid threat, probably going through 42 pages of our posts, even bother to debate the previous 2 pages and telling us qbid has nothing to offer? what is your position on this stock? looking for to buy cheap? each consumer group will sign on the service of its own interest. g/l will sign on qbid cuz qbid is their voice. why would black people have interest in BET? why would the chinese have paricular interest in the chinese chanels? it does not mean that the black and the chinese dont watch other network. that why beside any topic catering to g/l, frank also have contract with AP for other news. As I said on my earlier post, you should go to RB. you belong there. And we all are aware that, as this stock is about to burst, the bashing comes back. Q is our baby and noone dares to touch it. [This message has been edited by tqn (edited December 04, 2004).] IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:23 Tqn. He wont respond. He has an agenda. IP: Logged
ARI Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:26 what does bashing do? IP: Logged
Sean028 Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:36 I like to add to this..I install broadband (Cox Communications) for a living and come across many diffrent cultures. There is no doubt in my mind that different ethnic back grounds tend to watch programs from their back ground. I see it all over the place. For example...The Indian culture want nothing but Indian channels because the programming is directed to their culture and their beliefs. Think about this....If you look next to your TV, what do you have next to it? VCR tapes, DVD's etc... Now, when I'm installing near the television I glance at the tapes and find that most of the tapes are either cartoons in Indian or movies from their culture. This does not just apply to Indian's but to all. BET is one of the most popular channels in our system in New England, why??? because of the programing and the music they play. Many of my friends are black and perfer to watch BET and I ask them why. The most common answer I get from them is "We can relate to what they are talking about." Not to mention the music they play R/B and RAP some Jazz. I go into many homes a day, week, months and I can tell you first hand that certian progamming is in demand. Why not a channel for the gay and lesbian?? The market is not saturated in a network like Q and MHO, I think this will do very well. I can't wait till a gay or lesbian person ask me if we carry Q yet. Take it from someone that works in many homes a year. quote: Originally posted by tqn: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Daytrader1983: [b]To matt and poot. I like to talk stocks, no personal business. QBID does not have anything to offer. That's right, nothing. Gay travel? Gay movies? Gay comedy? Are you telling me that gay people are going to go somewhere because it's gay? They're going to laugh more because a comedians gay? A movie's going to get better because there's gays in it? You are out of your minds. i am just wondering why you are here, in the qbid threat, probably going through 42 pages of our posts, even bother to debate the previous 2 pages and telling us qbid has nothing to offer? what is your position on this stock? looking for to buy cheap? each consumer group will sign on the service of its own interest. g/l will sign on qbid cuz qbid is their voice. why would black people have interest in BET? why would the chinese have paricular interest in the chinese chanels? it does not mean that the black and the chinese dont watch other network. that why beside any topic catering to g/l, frank also have contract with AP for other news. As I said on my earlier post, you should go to RB. you belong there. And we all are aware that, as this stock is about to burst, the bashing comes back. Q is our baby and noone dares to touch it. [This message has been edited by tqn (edited December 04, 2004).][/B][/QUOTE] IP: Logged
ARI Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:47 sean just curious have you heard anything about Q? being that you work installing cable... [This message has been edited by ARI (edited December 04, 2004).] IP: Logged
tqn Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:48 quote: Originally posted by ARI: what does bashing do? posting many negativities and untrue about a stock to drive the price down so he can buy cheap. weak hands and newbies fall for this. IP: Logged
ARI Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:49 good to know thank you quote: Originally posted by tqn: posting many negativities and untrue about a stock to drive the price down so he can buy cheap. weak hands and newbies fall for this. IP: Logged
init4themoney Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:56 If I may make a couple points: 1) I have had the privledge of knowing quite a few g/l people in the medical field over the years. And as I have become obsessed with this Q stock over the last year I did ask some of them what they thought about Q and would they subscribe. to my suprise all said they would but further subscription depended on the programming. 2)The g/l I've met in the medical field are very smart very professional people but when the weekend comes they do their partying thing. 3)they buy the same toothpaste, same cars, etc, but I have been told by some they welcome their own "escape" if you will. From what I've seen so far (ex the demo) Q is going to feed their appetites.. IP: Logged
Sean028 Member	posted December 04, 2004 19:57 No one has asked me about Q yet but you have to remember that Q just launched so give it time. We have a decent gay community here so it's only a matter of time. If anyone is familiar with the North East, we have a place called Province Town which is in MA. This is a very active gay community. Frank Placed Boston on the launch list for a good reason. quote: Originally posted by ARI: sean just curious have you heard anything about Q? being that you work installing cable... [This message has been edited by ARI (edited December 04, 2004).] [This message has been edited by Sean028 (edited December 04, 2004).] IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 20:16 http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Section=Press_Room&CONTENTID=24315&TEMPLATE=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm Think this will make newsbrake on QTN? [This message has been edited by firefly (edited December 04, 2004).] IP: Logged
lilpennypincher Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:02 quote: Originally posted by ARI: I think that people in alternative living situations will watch q because it IS something different... It is their network and their shows, dealing with their issues. The same way there are networks for women (WE or Lifetime) and Men (Spike), I truly think that a network for the gay community will be sucessful, it will appeal to the gay community..... Why wouldn't anybody gay or straight want to watch programming geared towards their lifestyle...... Think you've really tapped something here ARI. Even if they don't watch....Q is a voice for them...They may not like the content of the programing but, IT IS A VOICE. One I know personally that they want. I have a gay Aunt and a gay sister. My aunt with her partner for over 40 years as well as my sister with her partner for 15 years. I have discussed this with both of them. Two different answers but both agree they like the voice behind Q. My Aunt and her partner have lived thier lives hiding their love for one another in the public eye. They don't know any other way to live and feel very uncomfortable doing other wise. Neither one feels comfortable going into gay bars, never have. They are looking forward to Q as a relief from the hiding. My sister on the other goes to gay bars, is open with her relationship with her partner and is looking forward to all of the opening of doors that a network like Q will bring. Whether good or bad........IT IS A VOICE FOR THEM FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE NOTICE! Now since the majority rules......This one is for you.......(crap I forget his name) Daytrader something..... Oh Yes......A friend of U4's......Newbies....This is a basher. He just sold at the last run and wants you to sell your shares so he may buy them at a cheaper price. Don't let this A$$ freak you out! So...... You're not getting my shares, and...... ? So.........Please, If you would !!!!! You don't like Q.......find another thread. Thanks for your time. Lil IP: Logged
RNINALVNG Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:14 slower, slower, no prob....are we on edge this evening?...lol! Terry IP: Logged
Ric Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:21 Terry everyones in chat room right now Ric quote: Originally posted by RNINALVNG: slower, slower, no prob....are we on edge this evening?...lol! Terry IP: Logged
lilpennypincher Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:22 quote: Originally posted by RNINALVNG: slower, slower, no prob....are we on edge this evening?...lol! Terry Hey darlin......Was just going to email you to come into chat........... PLEASE............. Here is the link. http://www.qtelevision.com/login.asp IP: Logged
RNINALVNG Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:24 Ric, Tenn was down 21-7 but came back to 21-21...what's the latest score?...I can't beleive you're in the chat room while Tenn is playing... Terry IP: Logged
Trader O Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:25 I totally agree. We are witnessing a gay revolution right now with the legalization of gay marriage and the acceptance of gay people in the media. It just so happens that q television is launching at the perfect time when all of this is happening. The culture is changing and q television will be a catalyst of that change. quote: Originally posted by lilpennypincher: Think you've really tapped something here ARI. Even if they don't watch....Q is a voice for them...They may not like the content of the programing but, IT IS A VOICE. One I know personally that they want. I have a gay Aunt and a gay sister. My aunt with her partner for over 40 years as well as my sister with her partner for 15 years. I have discussed this with both of them. Two different answers but both agree they like the voice behind Q. My Aunt and her partner have lived thier lives hiding their love for one another in the public eye. They don't know any other way to live and feel very uncomfortable doing other wise. Neither one feels comfortable going into gay bars, never have. They are looking forward to Q as a relief from the hiding. My sister on the other goes to gay bars, is open with her relationship with her partner and is looking forward to all of the opening of doors that a network like Q will bring. Whether good or bad........IT IS A VOICE FOR THEM FOR PEOPLE TO TAKE NOTICE! Now since the majority rules......This one is for you.......(crap I forget his name) Daytrader something..... Oh Yes......A friend of U4's......Newbies....This is a basher. He just sold at the last run and wants you to sell your shares so he may buy them at a cheaper price. Don't let this A$$ freak you out! So...... You're not getting my shares, and...... ? So.........Please, If you would !!!!! You don't like Q.......find another thread. Thanks for your time. Lil IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:28 Kick ass Lil. Terry check out Q chat. Thanks for the great posts tonight all!!! IP: Logged
penny-trader Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:35 I still can not get in they are not sending me an e-mail to confirm my e-mail address quote: Originally posted by Ric: Terry everyones in chat room right now Ric IP: Logged
firefly Member	posted December 04, 2004 22:51 Hi Rod. I ahve been in there all night. Maybee they still have bugs to work out. OH BTW this is for numb nuts earlier. http://www.glrf.info/REGATTAS__/2006_GAY_GAMES/Chicago_Update/chicago_update.html IP: Logged

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