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see..you still avoid the question... BUT...at least you know whats going on... Just like the rest of us do...(yeah right)
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex...sounds like some great plays!! AND? ya'll never answered when asked ...did ya ever get in this? Do you not agree that the "basher", "hype", Paid PR bash crap slinging, "star figure" message board tales have been unreal with this?
Please tell me that this DOES not happen with all geek plays!!!
to me, this is *the MF* of geek plays...lol
those lil, odd-filings' dealies? most never even show up on a board...
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quote:Originally posted by tmanfromtexas: Tex, I am assuming that you must have certs in hand to do this "geek play"? TMAN...
nope...
in fact, the only time I've ever wound up with physical certs was the GVRP thang...the "original" geek play, in my book. They effected an (illegal, imo) r/s without a corresponding rise in pps through PRs and behind-the-scenes negotiations between NASD/NASDAQ and a NY attorney...
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Some more stuff from the lengthy DTC article:
quote: A greater consideration is just exactly who does the DTC hold these securities for? As the owner, who has the DTC pledged these securities to? Our research points to the Federal Reserve System, an international private banking cartel with major offices found in Moscow, London, Tokyo, and Peking. By treaty with the United Nations and in compliance with the Bretton Woods Agreement, the DTC under regulation of the Federal Reserve System has pledged all those stocks and bonds to the International Monetary Fund (IMF). These are the same paper securities found in your IRA and pension fund accounts, as well as in your brokerage account. Remember, you don't own them.... you're just a beneficiary.
The truth is, the securities you purchased and paid for with your hard earned money is collateral for the United Nations which is backed by the Federal Reserve System and it's associated agencies, such as the International Monetary Fund. Is it any wonder that the UN can operate year after year with increasing budgets, but without sufficient funds? The UN has nearly $19 Trillion of backing and reserves, thanks to millions of duped Americans. We are financing the New World Dis-Order with our stocks and bonds.
I really hate the UN, so I'm not real happy to read these last paragraphs. This stuff is quite weird and scarey!
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quote: - if, IF stock opens on nasdaq, says that if shares are to be covered ben wants to be contacted within 24-48 hours in order to do so...NO grace period for shorters. "we're gonna hit em so hard with so much stuff...they're not gonna have an opportunity to cover."
So if Rufus isn't going to give the shorts an opportunity to cover, then what will happen to the "air shares"? It would seem there would be no squeeze and those without certs would be screwed.
I guess this is saying that the shorts would have 48 hours to cover, but it also says that Rufus doesn't believe that will be enough time to do so.
quote:Originally posted by 10of13: see..you still avoid the question... BUT...at least you know whats going on... Just like the rest of us do...(yeah right)
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quote:Originally posted by 10of13: Tex...sounds like some great plays!! AND? ya'll never answered when asked ...did ya ever get in this? Do you not agree that the "basher", "hype", Paid PR bash crap slinging, "star figure" message board tales have been unreal with this?
Please tell me that this DOES not happen with all geek plays!!!
to me, this is *the MF* of geek plays...lol
those lil, odd-filings' dealies? most never even show up on a board...
sorry, thought that was directed elsewhere as my stance is consistent: been a few days I would've bought for flips--particularly after the gap-fill to .13-ish. Most recently, I wanted to buy around a buck before the $4 spike...alas, my schedule simply prevented my doing so. As far as holding for the promised land? My take has been that if this gets pulled off, there will be more... I won't gamble on a hold with something like this.
Great flipper, though...and certainly a Geek Hall Of Famer, worthy of study and research.
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quote:Originally posted by Doniboy: Whats up CSHD people? Weird day today. I should have flipped the $hit out of it, but alas...I didn't....
If we were privy to the same info as the MM's. yep it would have been a great time to flip but alas we are only pawns in this game and must react with lighting fast moves. When I grow up I want to have the info at the same time the MM's and friends do.
quote:Originally posted by TimW: Haha and its 6am 1pm here. :-P
Smart aleck.
OOPs you lost. It's 6:30AM PST and 1PM PST. I think I finally won.
GLTA Wally
Yea, I may give it to you, but I count that first 1/2 hour in the morning. That's when I really start seeing things start to come through. You got me on a technicality!
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Ok, im still in the belief that there is some major software / operating system deal on the table. The COBRA or CORBA was something i found interesting and now the "hint" about the nephew of the richest man in the world. Tut says the richest man is not Ingvar Kamprad, which would make Gates next in line right? Well, maybe the hint was just that....a hint. Here is someone coined as Bill Gates nephew but not actually his nephew. A young brain child by the name of Rupert. I only have a few minutes from time to time to research things but i found this interesting.
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Hey! Ok guys, so is it going to be Reset THISMORNING.....i am having trouble figuring out exactly when it is going to be reset....i want to buy more BUT i fear that the money will not transfer in time to buy when it is still kinda low im in at .97 right now but only 200 shares and i want to get in more like 1,000 shares and it would take me like 4 days toget the money to be tradable after i sell my other stocks and stuff b/c i don't have a margin account! THANKS guys for being so helpful!
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I don't think that being ON or OFF the NOBO list is the question that we need to ask ourselves...
The NOBO list is a list of people who hold shares, and,...-that list says that there are MORE shares then what the company issued out!
Understand....?
So you are on the list, great, there are only 110 million REAL shares and say 200 million shares out there (round numbers)that people own, hey that doesn't add up does it!
So then WHO on the NOBO list gets the actual shares? That's the question!!!!
All this time we have been OUT of shares that is why there are naked shorts!!! -Because there are "NO SHARES."
If you bought today, yesterday a month ago... IMO YOU BOUGHT AIR!!! Selling air, buying air!
Your broker is on the NOBO and it says they own xxxxx amount of shares, this other broker owns xxxxxx many, -etc....
But CSHD says there IS ONLY THIS many shares!! SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS?
That's the problem ~
It's NOT just a matter of being on the list, we all I'm sure are on it if you think about it, most are on it in your Brokers name, get your certs and YOUR name appears on the list....
SO WHAT?!! You're just another name on a list! Aren't you?... "SECOND" in line too, so incourt don't you think that it would be logical for a judge to give the "real" shares to the ones who were there "first?" --The Brokers...
I've bought shares at .10 when it was FHAL, I'd be LUCKY if THOSE were real!!
Do you see the problem?...
It's MUCH bigger then being on the NOBO list... That's the smoke screen...
The question is.... "WHO" on the nobo list will get the shares?!! Small money, or the brokers? First come first serve? So the Brokers only get them? How is that fair? We bought REAL (we thought) shares! Isn't that fraud?!
SEE the BIG PICTURE here....
"BIG MONEY," TDA, Scottrade, etc,... THEY were on the NOBO list FIRST! Always have been on the list from day one! Think you're going to get your shares ahead of them?..................
Riiiiiiight ~
What gives you the right, they were there first!
All this and this whole nightmare doesn't even need to be IMO... It's a scam of the rich!
What strikes me as VERY odd, is they say that the market NEEDS Naked Shorting to creat "liquidity"....
What a bunch of CRAP!!!.... THINK about it.
Hey, you need shares... Here's an idea... RISE THE DAMN PPS!!!!
If a .01 cent pennystock raises to .50 cents, --they'll have all the stinking shares they want or need!! Tell me I'm wrong! LOL ~
This whole system is a smoke screen and we've been fed it so much that we can't see what's going on right under our nose IMO!
Just because The SEC says it's needed Naked Shorting are we NOT supposed to question it?!!
To "Police" this the SEC puts up The SHO list, tells MM's that WHEN a stock reaches that threshold that thay can't Naked Short it anymore, AND IF THEY DO (-I thought they just said they couldn't?!!) and if they do,... -they have to buy them back in 3 days time.
And,...the Naked Shorts that got the stock to the SHO list in the first place DON'T have to be covered because they are considered "Grandfathered" or were BEFORE the SHO list.
WTF IS THAT!!!!!???
They sold air to get it to the SHO and DON'T have to cover those, then they sell air while it's on the SHO, but have 3 days to cover!
The WHOLE thing STINKS, and IMO it DOES NOT make sense! When you fully understand it, does it make sense?!! -no way ~~~
I hope to GOD that Rufus DOES do something about this, cause clearly this was designed as a rich mans scam, and in my opinion, not even that clever of a ripoff!
So what does all this mean?....
That's the "ultimate Question."
Looks to me like if the little guy has ANY hope, it would have to be a concentrated effort to take away a "strong man's" (Brokers) money just like what Rufus is trying to do now.
and...
We should be able to trust Rufus cause he wants what we all want, the PPS to GO UP!! His stock has a good day we BOTH have a good day ~
Who else can we turn to or who else is going to do EVERYTHING in their power to stop this for us and raise our PPS to where it SHOULD BE? Rufus' money IS our money!
Now, if and when we go to the NAZ and when those numbers don't add up, then the DTCC will pick who gets what, think your "John Doe" on a list will get you your shares? TDA is a bigger "John Doe" and does alot more business $$$$$$ then you do, THEY are WORTH more then you to the DTCC... That's the bottom line, and THEY were there registered FIRST before ANY of us were!
They "ARE" THE SYSTEM...
That's the tangled mess we're in!
My money is riding on Rufus, cause clearly he has shown us that he is "connected."
Rufus knows this WHOLE deal inside and out and he's making sure that CSHD will be known as...
"The little stock that could" IMO ~
I think the ONLY reason the PPS is staying where it is, is because Rufus IS onto something... What other reason is there?...
quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, im still in the belief that there is some major software / operating system deal on the table. The COBRA or CORBA was something i found interesting and now the "hint" about the nephew of the richest man in the world. Tut says the richest man is not Ingvar Kamprad, which would make Gates next in line right? Well, maybe the hint was just that....a hint. Here is someone coined as Bill Gates nephew but not actually his nephew. A young brain child by the name of Rupert. I only have a few minutes from time to time to research things but i found this interesting.
haha...this was at the end of that article, lol...that was too funny...
quote: Correction
There were a number of errors in the 4/1 cover story on Microsoft's Thought Recognition technology. Robert Warburg, an analyst with the Bay Area venture capital firm Klein & Fairfield, does not, as was implied in the article, exist. Nor does Klein & Fairfield. Microsoft has never employed Vikram Narayan, who does not exist. Workers from Vanstar do not deliver Dell PowerEdge processors and Precision 610 workstations to Building 8 every Monday morning. Microsoft does not keep an account with Radio Shack. Radio Shack does not employ an individual named Scott Roberts. The waitstaff at the Redmond Red Robin does not turn the bar televisions to Pokemon every afternoon. Russell Meyer does not publish the zine Faster Machine, Kill! Kill! Carnegie-Mellon Institute of Technology does not employ an individual named Daniel Rabelli. There is no newspaper called the Soap Lake Tribune. There is no such thing as the Foundation for Online Privacy based in Bethesda, Maryland. The Kansas University Cognitive Science Project does not employ E. Claire Winchell, who does not exist. Nine-year-old genius Rupert Tollefsen does not exist, although the editors would like to thank Andrew Rowny, his mother, Lori Larsen, and his grandmother, Greta Larsen, for lending his presence to our writer, Bruce Barcott, and photographer, Rick Dahms. Seattle Weekly apologizes for these, and other, unregrettable errors.
No matter the person's view on which person should head the company, everyone seems to agree that the multi-billion dollar global franchise that manufacturers the Mac can, like the legendary Phoenix, will rise again from its own ashes.
Written in April again....i hope its not another fools joke. heh
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Of course Tut says we would all know him and i dont think i would know this guy
Or, or or....earlier in the thread i mentioned that the twin towers could "rise from the ashes" and maybe AISS has a hand in making the composite high heat materials. Well, the Prince tried to donate 10 million dollars to the rebuilding of the towers but it was turned down by Giulinani. This was in 2001 however.
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Ok, last post i promise. And, this is my last guess for Tut. I think its Prince Alwaleed. Major philanthropist and majorly rich. Huge investor and could write Arabic quotes like the best of them. I also believe he is the person that bought up a large amount of the float some time ago.
Good reading here. This is all IMO of course. Tut may be crazy....which makes me totally nuts i guess. If it is the Prince we are in for a helluva ride
"The mere mention of Alwaleed investing in companies is enough to increase interest in them and make more investors buy the stocks in anticipation of an upturn in their fortunes. So, as demand exceeds supply, the share prices rise and the prophecy that the prince can turn companies around becomes self-fulfi lling. For example, in December 2005 Alwaleed told a Japanese newspaper he was interested in investing in Sony; its shares rose 5% on the news."
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quote:Originally posted by Mr. CATIAEngineer: Ok, last post i promise. And, this is my last guess for Tut. I think its Prince Alwaleed. Major philanthropist and majorly rich. Huge investor and could write Arabic quotes like the best of them. I also believe he is the person that bought up a large amount of the float some time ago.
Good reading here. This is all IMO of course. Tut may be crazy....which makes me totally nuts i guess. If it is the Prince we are in for a helluva ride
"The mere mention of Alwaleed investing in companies is enough to increase interest in them and make more investors buy the stocks in anticipation of an upturn in their fortunes. So, as demand exceeds supply, the share prices rise and the prophecy that the prince can turn companies around becomes self-fulfi lling. For example, in December 2005 Alwaleed told a Japanese newspaper he was interested in investing in Sony; its shares rose 5% on the news."
Interesting pick- I did see a post from back in august where someone mentions contacting Awalweed via the forum to ask how many shares he is holding in CSHD. Here is the paste from HSM
I can't believe I am up this early
fwiw-
[PASTE] GuapoAug 21st, 2006, 12:52 AM USXP tried the same thing, Arab investors. It didn't work.
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hey fellow longs, I hope everyone is doing super, sorry about you phil, it sux will miss u. just wanted to tell you guys that while I was checking stock forums; you know daily routine, I saw an arabic forum of middleeastern investors; mainly saudiarabians, who trade in US markets. I speak arabic BTW, and you won't believe the boom CSHD has done over there. Kept googling for other US middleeastern stock forums; all in arabic, and there is literally a link of CSHD on each very active daily. Just a quick look at those forums tells you the number of international investors interested in CSHD is large!!. what came to my attention is a son of the famous Saudi Prince Buisnessman "Alwaleed Bin Talal" is actually talking about supporting his position that currently he is in. I don't know how many shares he bought so figured I would ask him. So I registerd for the forum and asked him of how much he bought? he refused to tell me but rather told me that he also daytrade of around 30k or so. He actually has a long position with CSHD. I don't want to bother you guys about who is Alwaleed, google it for fun. He is mad rich and an insider for a number of big Co.s in the US.. Ohh well, sleeping pill is taking effect right now anyways, GLTA and see you tomorow. it is now 2:30 in the morning in the middleeast. Need to get some sleep.
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Actually someone posted the same type message under a different Hotstock username a few pages back in the thread- so perhaps its a "pump" tactic-
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Well, the Prince being involved could be a dream but what a huge dream that would be. This guy is very serious. I like how they say when there is a disaster anywhere in the world the Prince is there with finances. Im sticking to this pick. He may might not be Tut himself but maybe its one of his advisors. Wow, it would be incredible.
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Quote: Originally Posted by tutankhamen Earlier in the evening someone was posting as me in Paltalk and a lot of you thought I was there. When I said I was not, I was not. Then after that incidence I was invited via PM by dogman to come into Paltalk as a guest, partially to clear up the confusion created by an imposter posing as me and partially because the Paltalk members wanted to ask the same questions I try to answer here. My intial reaction was no.
When I realized that we have been fighting a very intensive and ugly war with all kinds of manoevers by the shorts to shake your belief I saw the possibility of another tactic in the making by using an imposter to create dissension amongst our own. I decided then it was best to extinguish what may have developed into another weapon for the enemy to use against you. The fire had to be put out before it spread.
In the process I believe we may have created a larger and more powerful army of believers to fight this battle. I was asked the same questions as on our HSM forum and the response was very positive and welcomed. I believe it was the right thing to do because it has only helped all HSM members by uniting us all in the same family with the same goals.
You are all brothers and sisters in the same battle and we will win this battle and you will be through the gates of victory, I have absolutely no doubt. We are very close to what we have all been waiting for and it will happen probably sooner than you all think but it will happen. I honestly do believe in your hearts and minds that you know you the answer because that is why you have held strong against the worst odds and you are still here. I know you don't like to hear the words "soon" or "close" but it is my firm belief that even you know now that it is "very close".
You are at the gates and you do know it. Your belief will not fail you.
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Sounds like Tut from Luv's post was talking about this guy not Jesuspower1.
Originally Posted by tutankhamen Earlier in the evening someone was posting as me in Paltalk and a lot of you thought I was there. When I said I was not, I was not.
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good morning. Hey chart I'm going to try and get in touch with cshd today about cross referencing the list. Technically my name should be in their book. I also wonder why they had us call the TA about the NOBO list when the TA said they had no access to it. So no big news released last night I take it. I'd rather have big news released either right before or right after the opening bell anyway. People tend to forget about after hours pr's.