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I just checked on all my penny stocks on American Bulls, and they're all buy-if and buy-conf. Why do I not have any confidence in them? They're such a bunch of tools!!!
On a good note, I just received my first Rush order, 4 bottles each of each brand. After I stop admiring them and get them cold, I'll give them the ole taste test.
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JMO - I think we should keep an eye & ear out for possible happenings with http://www.shugr.com (HESG.OB) combined with Rush.
Sweet as sugar. Zero calories. Diabetic safe.
Shugr by Swiss Diet is a revolutionary new sweetener. Shugr is a diabetic safe, tooth friendly, ZERO CALORIE, sweetener that tastes and bakes just like sugar. Because no other sweetener exists with these unique and healthful qualities, Shugr is a sweet-tooth's dream come true. With the exciting new development of Shugr, you can enjoy a delicious sweetener without the artificial taste!!
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Hey everyone. We made it to Spokane, Wa. Will be here for several days. I will start a real search for Rush here. They are supose to be in town somewhere.
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If no news is out next week my order at .0019 will get filled and were still in the low .0020s. IMHO
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Hey Imakmony.... I see you are still hoping to load up in the teens now. Don't blame you but bad luck to you. I think it is time to move this back up a bit. News is still elusive, but that is better for now it would seem.
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Most Safeway stores carry it in the Portland/Salem, OR area...
quote:Originally posted by chklingon: Hey everyone. We made it to Spokane, Wa. Will be here for several days. I will start a real search for Rush here. They are supose to be in town somewhere.
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Now looking forward to the new and improved website, in addition to other obvious news. If nothing else, this is teaching us patience.
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Hey Billis. I have been trying Safeways since Colorado. No luck so far. There is a Real Soda store here in Spokane, and I will try them tomorrow.
This does bring up a point.... Don't flame me..... Our distribution of Rush drinks.... SUCKS! It is near to impossible to find it. What on earth are the distributors doing? This Sunshine or Sunrise who ever they are are doing a lousy job. Also, it would seem that there is once again some holdup. I am wondering if the changes are dragging down production right now. I know it will pick back up, but once again a disruption in flow of product. Just guessing new lables, trying to get brewery certifed organic, and change of ingredience. I am not worried, just once again showing why we are not over a penny. No distribution! Sheese.... I want this product as readily available as SOBE.
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I won't flame you, Chklington. However, distribution and production is just beginning to gear up. I know, I know, Bob should have had his chit together but he didn't. Now he has Lynch and the money neccessary to produce and distribute the product. For all those that think the Lynch deal didn't happen or is failing, see post re: Realsoda. Keep in mind that real soda will not distribute anything that isn't in bottles. Change on the fly to produce this new distribution. I see progress. It may be a lot to ask of the true longs but IMO, we are now on the cusip of the new RSHN. We will all benefit.
At this point I have a better chance of being flamed than you do CHKlington. There are many stories of how someone failed for years at getting a product to market only to succeed in the end. As has been mentioned here KFC and The DONALD, Donald Trump. Why did they succeed? Because they kept trying in the face of failure. Will I hold all my shares until they reach $1 or more, No way! I take a profit on the way up. I will never tell someone they are wrong for taking a profit.
I do believe there is a lot of upside to this company. I do believe that the impatient masses are wrong. I do believe that flippers and daytraders will make their money and are a neccesity in getting the PPS to rise. I do believe that not getting weekly PR's is a good thing. I do believe that I have finished my Rant.
Hey if the naysayers, which I am definately not calling you CHKlington, have their say then I can have mine. I feel a lot better now.
Everybody have a great Father's Day. Enjoy the Rush.
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Well said Wallymac. I was also on a rant. I want my Rush Ginseng!......
If they can get this all together over the next few months, flood the market with product, start a public buzz... we will all be set. I would really like to try the apple ginseng. That sounds great.
Ground floor still, but............ look at all those floors above.
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wallymac thanx for the inspiration im starting to lose my faith in rshn but i promimised myself when i bought that i wouldnt sell until i felt they had reached at least a substantial portion of their potential
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i was just thinking that when this thing hits a buck or two how many of us will be filthy rich maybe we can all get together and throw a mad party when that day comes
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Not to harp here & I know I will really get bashed for this one, but this is not a quick play, as Bob Corr said himself patience this is a 12-18 month long term play. Look at Hansen's took them several years before they skyrocketed...WOW do I wish I were in that one...lol...But this will take some time as well & in the end we will all be enjoying the Rush Mind you not like Hansen's but we will be enjoying our own ride
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quote:Originally posted by hbbus700: Not to harp here & I know I will really get bashed for this one, but this is not a quick play, as Bob Corr said himself patience this is a 12-18 month long term play. Look at Hansen's took them several years before they skyrocketed...WOW do I wish I were in that one...lol...But this will take some time as well & in the end we will all be enjoying the Rush Mind you not like Hansen's but we will be enjoying our own ride
I happen to agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wallymac: Keep in mind that real soda will not distribute anything that isn't in bottles.
Just thought you should know, this is not 100% true Wally.
I asked Realsoda about this in an email regarding ewater and they said ewater was in plastic, I posted the actual email from them on this board stating that a few pages back. Feel free to search for it, too much to sift through for me....
BTW, Happy Father's Day to all the dad's on the board!
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Member Rated: posted June 02, 2006 09:20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh, this answers our questions to whether e-water was in glass or plastic.........
Hi!
The RUSH is in glass; the E is in plastic. I'm a big fan of glass myself
All the best Danny
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For those of you wanting an expanation of how MM's work, go to the PLNI thread and read a post by Lancej. He did an outstanding job and it is certainly a must-read.
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From Lancej, on the PLNI thread. Very good read for those that don't understand.
On the pink sheets it's all about the Market Makers. As the outstanding shares have been repeatedly doubled by the company, the price per share has dropped by half, a perfect mathematical relationship existing between the share price and the number of outstanding shares. Most investors are probably not smart enough to have a hand in that, so I contribute it mostly to the Market Makers.
Nevertheless, the currently valuation on PLNI is fair. I don't see PLNI stock "on sale". I don't see PLNI as a valuation play which is what your statement "Get your sale priced shares now". PLNI is not trading for a discount, and it's not a valuation play.
What PLNI is, is a GROWTH play, as in massive upward explosion as management executes on their long term vision, of which they've laid out to us their roadmap.
It's important to know the difference between a valuation play (buy on weakness) where a stock is undervalued to their peers, and the situation is that Wall Street hasn't noticed the stock yet.
A growth play is all about future growth potential and by that nature is therefore a longer term investment.
We also want, no need, PLNI to get off the pink sh*ts market. The OTCBB isn't much better. The problem with pink sheets and OTCBB, among other things, is that the Market Makers control the shots and there's nothing you can do about it.
You may think that when you look at a chart on PLNI that you are looking at a chart much like you would from a company traded on the Nasdaq. That is very far from the truth. What you are seeing is Market Maker activity only, the pink sheets are not an exchange. Where this comes in to play is this.
I'm a Market Maker, I feel there is more potential on the downside with this stock because of management's delayed audit numbers. But, I've got brokers calling me wanting shares. All I care about as a Market Maker is that I can make money off the spread. If I don't make money off providing PLNI stock to brokerage firms, then I'm not going to "make a market" in that security.
Now what I do is that I'm not willing to buy PLNI shares and then sell my inventory to brokers because I believe more money is to be made on the downside. Therefore, I sell the brokers shares I don't have. STOP. Investor Education 101 - What is it called when you sell something you don't have? If you got the answer right, good for you. The answer is, a short sale. Naked short selling enter stage left.
So, I report back to the pink sheets market that I've shorted shares. In other words people coming in and buying this stock can actually push the stock down if that's what the Market Makers want to do. Now as a Market Maker, I have to cover my short. So as soon as the stock drops, I cover my short and make money off the spread. In otherwords as a Market Maker in PLNI, I sold 200,000 shares I didn't have to Madvillian's broker for $0.003. Because I didn't have the shares in my inventory, I effectively shorted the stock, and the price of PLNI drops from this action. Over the day, other Market Makers are doing the same thing. 1 hour before closing, the price of PLNI is now at $0.0027, I then decide to cover my short at $0.0027 effectively making $0.0003 off the spread.
That's why it cracks me up coming into forums and reading messages from people who act like they know so much about a stock, and yet they don't even know that the chart they are looking at for PLNI is not reflective of investor sentiment because it's not investors actions they are looking at like on an exchange, instead, they are looking at Market Makers activity.
So this is how the Market Makers can make a stock go down on the pink sheets, even though demand may be going up. In otherwords, on the pink sh*ts, the Market Makers are God. A hostile relationship exists between the Market Makers and PLNI as evidenced by the TDAmeritrade crap going on. Whatever reason for this bad blood between PLNI's management and the Market Makers is of little concern (increasing outstanding shares dilutes the Market Makers inventory as well). What is a concern is that this bad relationship exits. If the Market Makers want this stock to go down by half because PLNI doubled their outstanding shares, then that is what is going to happen whether we as investors like it or not. As I detailed one example for you above how your act of buying more shares can actually cause the stock to drop if the Market Makers sell your broker the shares that they don't have (SHORT).
Hey, the pink sh*ts are the wild wild west, it's all good. But what we really need here are 3 things: 1)PLNI to continue their massive revenue growth, 2) for PLNI to uplist off the pink sh*ts to the OTCBB ASAP to where they can attract less hostile Market Makers, 3) Stop doubling the outstanding shares every 6 months! In fact, make good on your promise made a year ago to start buying the shares back and retiring them.
So that's where this is at. This is going to take time for PLNI to achieve these things. Watching PLNI day to day, then looking at orders that are processed and then thinking looking at all the orders coming in is silly. Those are Market Makers orders only, and on the pink sh*ts, the Market Makers are God.
So far, the Market Makers have dropped PLNI by 50% each time PLNI increases its outstanding shares by 100%. If that doesn't wake you up to the power of these Gods, I don't know what will.
While like some of you I was glad to see PLNI fight back with TDAmeritrade, but PLNI is on the loosing side of the battle. You can't force a Market Maker to provide liquidity for a security if they can't make a profit in it and therefore don't want to, especially on the pink sheets that already have little SEC oversight. In otherwords we need PLNI to establish positive relationships with Market Makers, not release silly little tit for tat PRs that are only going to piss the Market Maker Gods off even more. The Market Maker Gods have sent a clear message to PLNI that they don't approve of PLNI management doubling the outstanding shares every 6 months to 1 year. I would much rather see PLNI working to appease the Market Maker Gods rather than trying to anger them. The way PLNI can offer a peace offering, if it's not too late, is to sacrifice some of those outstanding shares on the alter of Share Buyback and Retirement. I believe this will happen, but it will take time. It's useless to watch this stock on a day to day basis. This is a long term, set it and forget it play with a time horizon of up to 5 years.
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Yeah, I decided to post it here to make sure everybody reads it.
It explains the dynamics of how pinkies work. I get irritated when people refer to charts and averages concerning pinks.
I especially didn't like the comment from a couple of days ago that stated if RSHN stock dipped below 002 that there would be no recovering. That was a statement that had no basis, and I question it's motivation, especially since it was put forth by a prominent poster.
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Yeah, I was a bit surprised by that as well. RSHN could drop all the way back into the .000's and still come back. That would be a shame to drop all the way back. This is no longer that company. So much is changing now. They did add some OS to the mix, but not all that much. Most of the shares were private. It is a bit scarey how much like PLNI we look.
The charts are still something that must be watched though, even on a pinkie. I have watched the trend very closely and been well aware of how contrived the drop has been. However it is also just as easy now to do the same trend, in the other direction. I really have wanted some financials for a long time as has Robbie. Also, a move off Pinks would help as well. Oh well, one step at a time. So far, we are moving in the right direction from a company standpoint, even if it does not reflect in the pps. We will look back one day and be glad we are here now.
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Sorry, I did not repost this as a comparison to plni, but to just show people how MM's operate. I do not want anybody to see any corrolation between these 2 companies. PLNI has major issues, and I view RSHN as being on track.
All I can say is be careful using the RSHN chart to track trends, it is all controlled by the MM's.
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Understood monk. However it does apply to how far we dropped from the penny. I would have thought around a 50 to 60 % retrace would have been about right. 80% seems a bit much. Lots of buyers and still we dropped. That also explains why so many false signals on the charts.
Agreed RSHN is really showing signs of making a LOT of progress over the next few months. (years?) I don't know how many will be willing to hold for that time frame. The day traders are still awaiting the next run and will temper what could be.
We are now in Spokane, Wa. I will be searching high and low for Rush. Tried Safeway yesterday but did not find it. I see on Tonies list that it is in a Safeway in Tumwater. (long way off I am afraid) We will be here for a couple of weeks. Then off to British Columbia and Alaska.
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