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Not sure who closed the CMKX thread. I know its revoked but some of still have some shares and dividends are supposed to be given along with whatever the other assets are.
It would be nice not to close it until we at least know what they are giving and the board is the fastest way sometimes.
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What assets, you are not going to see any assets the only person who is going to keep "all" the assets is Urban Casavant
500 empty holes and counting.
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quote:Originally posted by Pennies4sell: Not sure who closed the CMKX thread. I know its revoked but some of still have some shares and dividends are supposed to be given along with whatever the other assets are.
It would be nice not to close it until we at least know what they are giving and the board is the fastest way sometimes.
What will it take for people to understand that this is done and so is your money
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Well what is the ratio of cmkx to etgmf? is it 76 shares to a million or is it going to be more or less? They did say other assets whether they are worth anything or are they anything, is another unanswered question that some may be wondering about.
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well allstock's might be figuring since it aint a stock it doesn't belong i guess. still cmkx is no worse then a few other threads on here...lol did anyone think to send flowers??? a sympathy card??? play taps??? wanna bet a few ppl typing to tape are having a party tonight???...lol 3 yrs at a 4 or 5 billion average per day no longer needs to be typed into tape
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Pennies4sell... I got booted by Doc for bashing last time so I will be nice this time. CMKX is done. No short squeez. The shares you will get of ETGMF will be worthless the day you get it. The stock is heading south. CEO is dumping shares and they will have to dilute it 300% I am being told. All of the DD posted on CMKX has been worthless. When it comes down to it the o.s is what counts. Look at the PLNI thread now. That stock was being pumped for so long and she is heading south.. Why? CEO is printing paper to pay green baron who is promoting that stock. People were up so much but are slowy starting to lose profit.. Why? They put to much trust into these companies. UB took everyone's money and even lead daytraders into believing a short squeez was coming and nothing. Best thing to do now is move on.
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notice the fail to deliver number...not saying this is fact but from an old site that monthly total was a rolling number not something to be added to other months.....
FRIZZELL LAW FIRM 305 S. Broadway, Suite 302 Tyler, Texas 75702 (903)595-1921 E-Mail jmartin*cmkxownersgroup.com
Greetings Group Members,
I am anticipating some communication from Mr. Stoecklein regarding the Entrourage distribution. I hope to hear from him today or tomorrow. I will post any information I have to you as soon as I receive something. I have no information beyond what I posted to you last week. I am ready to get to work on a plan that will finally allow us to identify all shareholders of CMKX stock. As for the rumors that a deal has been struck with some market makers, I can tell you that I am aware of no such deal. As always, I hope there is such a deal being made, but I am not privy to any information that such is occurring.
I have received a partial response from the SEC on my requests for information for the Fails to Deliver in CMKX stock. I appreciate the SEC's response but their response is incomplete at best. I plan to continue my work to get you all the information the SEC has regarding the reported fails. It appears that approximately 800 Million shares of CMKX stock were reported to the DTCC as delivery failures in the month of April of 2005. My request for the SHO reports was limited to April of '05 in hopes that I could begin to start obtaining information without meeting resistance because my requests were "overly broad". Knowing that the SEC now believes the monthly aggregate totals are appropriate to be released, I will shortly demand the monthly totals from each month beginning with January of 2005. I will let you know the SEC's response to our request for all the Fail to Deliver information. You can see the response from the SEC at www.cmkxownersgroup.com
This is a difficult time for many of you. I know it is. I sympathize with you. I am doing all that I can do with rather limited information at this point. I have heard many of you have been told to direct all of your questions to this office. If you have a specific question, please email John or try calling one of us. If we are not available, leave the question with the receptionist or my legal assistant. Contrary to the rumor mill, I am not privy to some master plan. I have no information that I have not shared with you. I have answered ten or twelve phone calls today and they all are simply seeking information and wanting to discuss possibilities. I would rather tell you of specific facts when I obtain the same from the company. It is more efficient and much less time consuming to post my information via these updates than to try to answer general questions from hundreds of callers. Those people that are suggesting to any of you that I have knowledge of some master plan should be beat with a wet rope. I do look forward to working with Mr. Stoecklein and Mr. Maheu as we proceed. You will see an update from me as soon as I know more.
Onward,
Bill
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plus 800 million if an average over 3 yrs at 12 months a yr is about 30 billion. gonna have a hard time squeezing a 703.5 billion o/s with 30 billion.
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bill, there never was an extreme NSS of CMKX. They can rant and rave until the end of time, but there will never be any proof of it because it never existed. 30B is 4.2 % of the O/S. There isn't any Trillions of shares shorted. You can open your window and pick a million shares out of the air, why short it?
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Interesting that the cmkx.net site is down. It says that this site has been suspended. What are the odds.
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quote:Originally posted by Otttoman: Interesting that the cmkx.net site is down. It says that this site has been suspended. What are the odds.
It's dead as dead can be, as soon as the koolaid gets out of their system and they can admit that they have lost their money (as I have lost money) then reality will set in. Harsh but true, Urban scammed us, plain and simple
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Urban Casavant last seen standing on his front lawn in Vegas about 1100 AM this morning, dressed as a Viking Lady (horns and all)singing out his tune. It would appear that he did not want to hire a fat lady to sing so he did it himself
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I'm getting scared to death by all the ghouls and ghosts. One kid even came over dressed up as the SEC.
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That might have been legal. Did anyone come to the door as NSS with their butt hanging out? OH! Excuse me, with red well kicked, well spanked, butt hanging out. I'll stop there, but for some I'm sure spanking and kicking would have been a pleasure compared to what Urban really did to them!
quote:Originally posted by Highwaychild: I'm getting scared to death by all the ghouls and ghosts. One kid even came over dressed up as the SEC.
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Currently accepting all of your "worthless" shares of CMKX into my Ameritrade account, as well as any divies if you want to get them out of your account. LOL
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Doc, let me throw down the gauntlet here, you have bashed and bashed this stock for months. Now you consider it worthless. Show the newbies and negs just how certain you are of the value. Transfer your shares over to me. Or admit that this stock has a potential for value that you don't want to miss.
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Doc, let me throw down the gauntlet here, you have bashed and bashed this stock for months. Now you consider it worthless. Show the newbies and negs just how certain you are of the value. Transfer your shares over to me. Or admit that this stock has a potential for value that you don't want to miss.
I started to bash after I saw the writing on the wall, before that I promoted it, but when Urban started to take the newbies for all they were worth, I have a conscience that would not let me continue in the path of deception for my personal gain like plenty of you pumpers continued to do, right to the end and still at it.
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legal, don't you have enough with what Urban gave you?
OUCH!
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quote:Originally posted by legaleagle: Doc, let me throw down the gauntlet here, you have bashed and bashed this stock for months. Now you consider it worthless. Show the newbies and negs just how certain you are of the value. Transfer your shares over to me. Or admit that this stock has a potential for value that you don't want to miss.
LMAO, You can't trade the stock and all the assets have been transferred out to another shell. UC is in debt.... what value.
You use to come here saying filings were coming... sooon. So what happened? Whats the excuse? The excuse is you don't know jack and you just spam everyboard related to CMKX with your nonsense. Fact is CMKX is now 0.00 pps.
Welcome to the real world.
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"*** xxdiamondchildxx,wwjdthrume,noahltl,tramp... « Thread Started on Today at 9:52am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and gusjarvis,gluggo,jayadobe,abadgoodgirl,acca.
Please tell me now how all this is going to play out and how we are going to see a PPS in the higher penny range that so many of you talked about?
Please answer it straight from your heart so you can calm my racing one.
Please allow me to understand your overboard positive thinking and DD that you plastered the boards with.
Please show me where this is all going to end up and when.
Just please, please, please back up all you posted about CMKX with some direct fact so I know I can still trust in people that claim they know what they are talking about when it comes to CMKX, Urban, et al."
"pro32" ! Man! I never read that board before. There are a bunch of noah's over there, it looks like. LOL Man! That place must be fun.
Oh! Btw, noah, (legal), there isn't any sting operation, it was something you convinced yourself of in your denial stage, instead admitting poor judgement.
Go ease that poor fool's heart with more of your lies and promises that you pull out of Dr. D's and other's rear ends. She'll believe you, seems she has believed you and wwjdthrume, debbie, up to this point. Wonder how much money she pumped into this loser because you and those other second tier pumpers convinced her that it was safe and a "play of a lifetime". You and others call yourselves Christians after you knowingly destroyed people's savings and future like you have. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.
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revoked, no money & now andy's gone????!!!! oh the humanity of it all. there will be carnage in the streets when that task force gets going.....................does that sound like an old tune around here? RG, Mahoo, stocklien, frizzy, even the last auditor got a "you better watch out now" vote from the cult. i'm thinking a new feather duster would have acheived the same results. a lot cheaper too. might have been an asset or 2 left to divide up.
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Glad to see so many of you are now feeling welcome at 32. Not surprising since it became primarily a basher board. Bill, congratulations on becoming a member over there again. Debi gave a pretty good answer and I think it is worth reposting here since you all brought that question to the board:
Re: *** xxdiamondchildxx,wwjdthrume,noahltl,tramp. « Reply #27 on Today at 12:19am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CDLIC is right.
There was a strong sense of frustration and disappointment from Mr Frizzell and Mr Stoecklein following the hearing, as well as a sense that UC knew the day didn't go well. In no sense did I witness anything even hinting of jubilation or excitement at the day's events.
C-Dub
Today at 12:09am, CDLIC wrote: Yesterday at 2:05pm, gusjarvis wrote:Frizzell said AND other assets over and over and he went along with this deal. He did not have to. It is very easy to see there was benefits to revocation and we wanted to all along, I posted that the day after the hearing. The whole hearing was a complete joke suggesting we worked with the sec, and the quick revo says I was right. Watch the show it is just starting.
Gusjarvia,
Absolutely incorrect! I spent time with Stoecklein, Frizzell and Maheu before, during and after the hearing. They were 100% intent on convincing the SEC to NOT revoke. They were very, very disappointed when the Hearing ended on Tuesday early evening and express their disappointment because they knew they did not win. I was there, you were not. Enough said.
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Callingyouout, I am very positive that this will work out well. I did a lot of DD on CMKX and I have logically looked at all the info and analized it including motives of positive posters and negative posters.
Last week CMKX asked to be revoked, said it was selling most of the claims in the Fort a la Corne area to Entourage mining in exchange for shares; and then said it would disburse those shares and ANY OTHER ASSETS to bona fide CMKX shareholders. I think this is excellent news even though the PR and 8-k may have looked otherwise. I will give some of my reasons below:
CMKX has had a humongous naked short position going back years and three trading symbols. There have been 4 rounds of dividends, one forward split and 2 symbol changes. Each of these changes or dividends tracked the Naked short and also trapped it. One of the dividends was Casavant International Mining which is a private company and shorty can not buy shares in that to cover.
I think at some point CMKX was working with the SEC to clean up the market and to resolve getting the short covered. In spite of that the SEC appears to have pulled a fast one on them last October the day before the USCA party and would not let them disclose their good news. We still have not heard it.
I think CMKX worked for resolution with the SEC over the last year when some of those with short positions settled up with the company. The short in the stock was proven in court and one document showed the Market Maker JEFF (Jeffries) short 111 Billion shares. That is just 1 MM. There are at least 25 entities that were short CMKX.
Money from the settlement was probably set aside in a trust for the shareholders and not mixed with the funds of the company. That is my opinion and I think we will see that is the case soon.
CMKX has walked a tightrope of trying to encourage the shareholders to hold their stock, while not giving any PR's that would encourage buying CMKX. There has been all kinds of bashing attacks and there have been some 'pumpers' equalizing that attack. The SEC threatening to revoke helped to keep buyers away. So did the low selling price and the non movement of price.
Those who attended court or followed the case closely realize that the case was more theatre than Securities trial. Neither side offered best offense or defense. Urban pled the 5th and Maheu offered up no knowledge of anything. He almost looked senile and if you saw him on 60 minutes around that time you realize he is anything but.
So CMKX asked to be revoked. IF the SEC had been working with us but had renegged on dates that CMKX could proceed with reporting, or issuing a cash dividend, -then this asking to be revoked was a show of force. It put CMXK in the drivers seat. This plan is fool proof. They filed to give away the proceeds of their business to their bona-fide shareholders. They can do that by giving out shares of Entourage which have most of our claims and as a Canadian company trading here it can receive the valuation of those claims; AND it can apply to trade on the Toronto exchange where there is zero naked shorting and no Market Makers. A sure short squeeze play IF they wanted one.
I don't think CMKX will give the brokerage firms the opportunity to give us electronic blips instead of stock again. I expect Entourage will recieve a buyout offer from a private company (maybe Casavant International Mining?) and would then disburse cash to it's bona fide shareholders. Cash cannot be naked shorted (counterfeited) or the guilty go to jail rapidly. The SEC should take a lesson from the treasury department. Of course the buyer could be a larger mining entity like Newmont or another. CMKX via it's various JV partners has relationships with most of the mining companies and they all would love our claims.
I think this latest move (seeking revocation) by CMKX brought any last stragglers who shorted to the table to settle with us. CMKX has many options available to them. They could file still even though revoked. AND IF they did I expect that would be AFTER valuation-that would bring your short squeeze for those that think we will have one. (I have prepared for any and all scenarios with certs, electronic shares held in multiple broekrage firms in case any broker went BK and insurance would limit a settlement). OR CMKX They could proceed with liquidating assets and disbursing them to us. This would give all bona fide shareholders $$$. Bona fide in this case means any with settled shares who are not holding certificates that are restricted - The original ones shorted against. CMKX would be rewarding it's long time shareholders via the CIM dividend which may restore the company to what it would have been without shorty's interference.
Current CMKX shareholders may get another round of CIM or warrants to purchase CIM pre IPO. There are also other mining assets to be disbursed.
Today we ended up revoked. That sounds awful to some and very agreeable to me. Now postive or negative you are in and will win. I am very glad to not be trading. I didn't want anyone selling cheaply and letting shorty cover cheap.
I think we will get a buyout/settlement in the .50 range (or better) at the end of this portion of the CMKX saga. The timeline is more in CMKX's control now. Once cash starts to be disbursed then any bona fide shares would be paid by the company, any shorted shares that shorty settled up on would be paid for out of the settlement fund and no one would be the wiser. Any Naked shorted shares where shorty hasn't settled would be left for shorty to pay. Not likely. This has been a game of chicken and I don't think anyone would stay naked when the exposure card is fool proof. The SEC has already revoked CMKX. They can't tell Entourage (a Canadian company) they can't sell the claims to a private company (like CIM) for a great price for their shareholders.
I tried to offer my best insights here now and always. They are my opinion only.
Some info I consider important is: The claims are in the best diamondiferous kimberlite zone ever found. The cost of recovering them is one of the most favorable because Fort a la Corne has paved roads that can be traveled year round. That helps. There is already housing, etc. in the area and the government is mining friendly.
Urban does love his shareholders. I know the lack of communication may not make it seem that way BUT if he pulls this off for you and makes you wealthy beyond your dreams you WILL get over it. I heard a person say today that Urban would take a bullet for his shareholders. In many ways he did. That old adage sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me isn't all that true. Words can hurt and many here and elsewhere will owe UC a huge apology when this is over. The worst offenders won't IMO since I doubt they even own stock in CMKX.
Well that is my opinion on how I see things. I don't hang out here as much as I used to. I stop by and scan the front page and read my PM's. I trade during the day and it is too difficult to try to keep up with CMKX boards during the market. IF the price was actually moving and the stock tradeable I would be on it in a heartbeat.
IMOO-God Bless and Best Wishes-We should have some information soon. -Debi
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debi-Excellent post. I would be interested in hearing any logic that could refute this overview.
George, do you have enough evidence or understanding to say that we would be best served if the company were to notify us now vs. a week or a month from now what their plan truly is. It seems to me that as complex as this has become there might be the matter of time that is required to accomplish their goal; at the moment we can’t see the picture because we don't have all the details. If indeed this proves to reward us greatly, wouldn't you want the company to keep quiet if that’s what is necessary at this time to accomplish the goal of releasing valuation, trading fairly and profiting share holders? Or maybe it is better to burden the board with pessimism, discontent and the “I've got to have it now attitude”. The question I ask those who are loosing their grip on positive thinking is....is it possible that the market that we’ve traded in, the early insiders that forced Urban to make decisions that were undesired, the SEC's lack of regulating Naked Short Selling and other entities that do not want CMKX to prevail, maybe conditioned CMKX to go to such extremes in order to succeed? Do you really feel that this is over or are you just upset that things haven't happened according to your timeline?
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- callingyouout, my reply to you would be about the same as Debi's. We have worked together at Christian Traders for over a year now and we primarily post there, if anyone wants to know our thoughts. http://forums.christiantraders.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=39
I used to post here frequently because this WAS the best board for DD, that I could carry back to CT for our membership. But that is gone now, so I rarely stop in. The great DD people like phxgold, ateyate and Columbo have all gone elsewhere. So I go where the DD is.
Others who contributed good DD, people like Gerogeburns and Pedro are now spending their time trying to defend their bashing and negativity and no longer have the drive and motivation that once served us all well. Their time is spent in driving down the company by attempting to alienate shareholders and it is a shame to have lost the kind of enthusiasm they used to have for bringing us facts and educated speculation.
So I am sorry that I did not respond to your question as quickly as I might have in the past. But those who once made this a great board have moved on and are posting elsewhere. That's where I want to be. Not necessarily where everything is sweetness and light, but where a positive attitude encourages the researchers to continue their efforts.
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Others who contributed good DD, people like Gerogeburns and Pedro are now spending their time trying to defend their bashing and negativity and no longer have the drive and motivation that once served us all well. Their time is spent in driving down the company by attempting to alienate shareholders and it is a shame to have lost the kind of enthusiasm they used to have for bringing us facts and educated speculation.
Contrary to your beliefs in GeorgeBurns and I ~~ I can freely state that there was no decline in motivation ~~ there was an incline in motivation to tell the truth.
Such are the Laws of Supply and Demand.
The people like Jayadobe, Carquest and Andy only had one motive: To spread the lies and untruths in hopes that people would increase demand and buy more CMKX.
Same as for phxgold, ateyate and Columbo, spinning the facts and creating lies and false untruths ~~ hoping to influence demand by the future rewards of owning CMKX.
You, yourself, are guilty of spreading the "Sting Theory" in order to show that CMKX was a good investment and rewards would be forthwith.
All false rumors, lies and untruths in order to create false hopes and false assurances that peoples investments were safe ~~ Trust the Team!
I provided the documents that proved the Shareholders have been harmed by the people that you believe we should trust the most ~~ (Trust the Team)
I warned the unsuspecting (new) investor of the lies and untruths that you and the other pumpers have spread ~~ It was the only Christian thing to do.
And for you to write that GeorgeBurns and I tried to alienate shareholders by telling the truth ~~ I find your accusations very Unchristian!
Have a nice day
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Infamous is a better word...you really have no shame, do you legal.
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