quote:Originally posted by GilladoreXD: With this known, there is only one reason for the pps to drop and that is lack of interest.
No personal offense intended, Gilladore, but you have not done your DD on the full last three months of QBID history. Nor have you apparently listened to the CC.
There is only one reasons for the decline in PPS, and it is dilution. Yes, Frank has said he is not diluting, and that these are restricted shares being sold, but it is still his responsibility, and even if it was a delayed dillution, it's still a dilution.
If he wants to restore investor confidence, he needs to contact the individual he sold those restricted shares to, and buy them all now, before this continued dilution of shares drops the PPS to .0001.
Guys, if you are buying at these levels knowing what we do, you're taking a HUGE risk. The PPS is pratically guaranteed to hit .0001/.0002 in the next few weeks, so I would not buy until we hear something from Frank, IMHO.
quote:Now, the company is small and its assets may roughly be several billion : lets use 5 billion net worth.
At the current PPS levels, assuming 50 billion shares, at .0004, QBID has a market cap of $20 million. That very well may be the true value of QBID.
I, for one, do not see QBID as valued at $100 million or higher. If they put a billion dollars down on their audit as the true value of that crappy library that he gave 3-5 billion restricted shares for, I will be seriously considering leaving this stock.
QBID is, IMHO, worth $50 million dollars. Unless something shows up in the audit that really excites me, I'm probably not going to change in that assessment of its value.
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Another interesting post. I wonder why Q is not on their television guide.
Posted by: zandant In reply to: None Date:11/4/2005 8:48:52 AM Post #of 183414
A good barometer for when the Q will finally arrive is its inclusion on Planet Outs Television Guide. As of today, still not mention of the Q, despite it's being a full g/l network. here and Logo are included:
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I don't know where people are coming up with the valuations for this company. I think that 1 billion in assets is way to high of a number. Say the studio is worth 50 to 100 million, that would obviously be Q's biggest asset. So where do you come up with the other 900 million. I think that in a year the company could be sold for 500 million given profitability. With 50 billion os that should give a value of .01. That is what I expect at this point.
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Anyone wonder how I got the $50 million figure for QBID's worth? I'll give you a hint, it was something specific said to Doctoall by Frank when they met.
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Come on G, I hate hints. I forgot what that was, refresh my memory.
quote:Originally posted by g-invest: Anyone wonder how I got the $50 million figure for QBID's worth? I'll give you a hint, it was something specific said to Doctoall by Frank when they met.
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifercd10: From Guy . . . Well Jen . . . I think that in the end, it really doesn't alter my msg. I do however, thank you for your feedback and insistence that I research Q further, which I did. I think that I've mitigated the perception of Q to more accurately reflects their programming . . . but I feel reasonably comfortable with the paragraph as it stands now. To borrow a phrase: it's close enough for Rock 'n Roll. Sincerely, ~Guy
Jennifer I'm pretty good at translating "bigot-speak". This is what Guy actually said:
"Well Jenn, thanks for your opinion but it really doesn't change what I think. Facts confuse me, therefore I reject them. But it really doesn't matter if I am wrong and libel someone, as long as my readers think I am right and keep supporting me with donations."
I've cleaned it up a little, and I wasn't able to re-create the "smirk" he had while typing your reply, but I think you get the message.
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not to be critical G but this is the third or forth time now that you stated you are going to leave Q. you are obviously in to Q for more then 30,000 shares like you have previously mentioned.
im sure the 12 dollars that this stock is worth in your account is not worth the all the dd you are putting into this stock.
really what is it you have invested in this stock that you are concidering leaving the stock.
you stated last week if the audit wasnt out by Oct 31st you will be gone, now you are stating it again.
it seems to me that you are trying to convince others to sell thier shares, thinking that you may actually be helping to bring down the price.
you seem smarter then that to think that way.
please enlighten me on how and why you spend this time on looking out for your $12.
I appreciate a lot of what you bring up. I dont always agree with your theories, and i dont want you to stop posting, I just can not for the life of me understand why you would waiste all this time that you do for the $12. I honestly believe that you more then likely have invested a pile more money then i have into this, and you are down to far to leave the stock.
Why can you not be honest about your investment.
No one in here is going to look down on you because you are down in your investment, as we are all in the same boat, hoping for the same outcome.
Rod
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quote:Originally posted by GilladoreXD: With this known, there is only one reason for the pps to drop and that is lack of interest.
No personal offense intended, Gilladore, but you have not done your DD on the full last three months of QBID history. Nor have you apparently listened to the CC.
There is only one reasons for the decline in PPS, and it is dilution. Yes, Frank has said he is not diluting, and that these are restricted shares being sold, but it is still his responsibility, and even if it was a delayed dillution, it's still a dilution.
If he wants to restore investor confidence, he needs to contact the individual he sold those restricted shares to, and buy them all now, before this continued dilution of shares drops the PPS to .0001.
Guys, if you are buying at these levels knowing what we do, you're taking a HUGE risk. The PPS is pratically guaranteed to hit .0001/.0002 in the next few weeks, so I would not buy until we hear something from Frank, IMHO.
quote:Now, the company is small and its assets may roughly be several billion : lets use 5 billion net worth.
At the current PPS levels, assuming 50 billion shares, at .0004, QBID has a market cap of $20 million. That very well may be the true value of QBID.
I, for one, do not see QBID as valued at $100 million or higher. If they put a billion dollars down on their audit as the true value of that crappy library that he gave 3-5 billion restricted shares for, I will be seriously considering leaving this stock.
QBID is, IMHO, worth $50 million dollars. Unless something shows up in the audit that really excites me, I'm probably not going to change in that assessment of its value.
-------------------- Dont buy or sell on my opinions, do your research. Make sure you know what you are buying before you buy.
This is a non reporting pink sheet with very high risk. From high risk comes high rewards. Dont invest more then you can afford to lose.
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quote:Originally posted by g-invest: Anyone wonder how I got the $50 million figure for QBID's worth?
g-invest Nope.
lol bottomliner that really cracked me up aahaha g-invest no offense, we all know "laughter is the best medicine"... thanks for a good laugh you guys
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quote:Originally posted by Penny-Trader: not to be critical G but this is the third or forth time now that you stated you are going to leave Q. you are obviously in to Q for more then 30,000 shares like you have previously mentioned.
Okay. I have been in QBID since about February of 2005, I bought 500,000 shares at .0024 and sold them at .0048 for a %100 profit.
When this dropped down to .0021 I bought again, and sold at .0028.
I then bought again at .0019 and .0014. I sold a bulk of my position at .0006 like I stated I would last week if the audit was not out, but still maintain over a million shares.
I carefully use "may" and "might" in my posts. Occasionally Frank is convincing enough for me, but right now I think it's a serious risk to buy. There's certainly nothing wrong with holding, though.
quote:Come on G, I hate hints. I forgot what that was, refresh my memory.
Frank stated he had put about $22-24 million of his own money into this company. Ironically, no one figured that's the best way to figure the true value of the company, even despite the dilution. If he owns %53 of QBID, that means that the Q is worth approximately $40-50 million, based on the minimal amount that Frank could sell it for and still make his money back.
Frank's certainly not going to sell at a loss (unless he accepts defeat, which he still may), so the PPS could easily rebound to .0010 ($50 million valuation/50 billion shares) after the restricted shares are all finished being sold and/or the dilution is done.
If Frank does follow through with a buyback, we could see .0014 without even any new news or carriers. Some well-timed PRs could put this back up as well.
The only concern I would have is that Frank goes the UC (CMKX) route and dilutes shares past the authorized share limit. That's why we have to make sure the SEC watches this carefully.
I don't think Frank is dumb enough to do that, but I'm not entirely confident in Frank's moral and ethical character to think he'd feel obligated to actually make us happy. The tone of the CC actually kind of upset me. Frank didn't seem to put much value on investors. It's as if he thinks we're all straight rich white men that deserve to have our money devalued. I don't think he even realizes how many gay men and women see QBID as a dream stock to invest in and are risking being hurt by the declining PPS.
quote:Nope.
I think using Frank's current investment is actually a really good way to determine valuation. He obviously wants to get *at least* his own money back.
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hey dew-it/MT... hows the L2's playing out? still the same, VERT on bid snatchin shares * 5? then when he drops off the bid he goes on the ask at 5 and sells? then when it upticks to .0005x.0006 he goes on the bid again?
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