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Im not bashing but yes it needs more volume and i have been watching the RSI very closely and also the Full STO. These indicators cought my eye earlier today. Be careful guys! This is by no means an investment.. I just gave you guys a heads up on a quick buck! good luck and play it safe! JMHO
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I wasn't able to buy-in at the price I wanted, so had to pass this play by for now .... But this was a good quick-bukc pick, uncle_buck ..... and thanks for all the nice chart work, as usual, jmichael7. I agree that this puppy is unstable, though, and could use more volume, which was why I was only willing to buy if I could get my low-ball asking price
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good choice Lucas its not worth chasing but if you can get in i think before .02 then you should be ok! resistance will be .025 tomorrow so look for that and then next stop .03 for resistance after that Look OUT JMHO
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well again a nice chart caused by front loading and another group play from www.***********.com, see if you guys who talk about this stock and sit in Momo's room, I think you at least owe it to everyone to let them know it's frontloaded and being played as a group, com on man at least do that... for the respect of other investors, or don't you have any respect for others? I sit in that rooom everyday and watch the plays you guys are doing, and if you know people involved, yet again each time it's front loaded, i mean who really runs a group play without buying in first and then letting everyone else in later, while you are already up 20-30% already...
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I am not bashing you guys, just tell everyone its a group play, and that the people who are running this should be aware, that is a completely fair comment, and if you don't agree then why are you trying to coax investors in the first place. I watched the L2 all day on this, and the other day, you can see it's being moved by a group, I mean everyone moves up on the ask and you ask everyone playing it not to hit the ask, stocks dont just randomly move like that, it's a nice chart because it's getting volume, and the price is moving, I mean take any group play, of course the chart looks great, till everyone starts dumping then it looks like crap.
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everyone should remember that a price is sustainable as long as you have investors buying in the group play and you entice more investors, I mean sure I can play these plays too, because I will buy in right away and make a little profit, but at least everyone else reading these posts should know it's front loaded and a group play, anyways enjoy and hope you make money... oh and fron loaded meaning they buy in first, I always get a huge kick when they claim it isnt front loaded, yet you can go back over the history and see who brought first through and through which broker and the amount, and then you can see where they are sitting on the ask too.... like I said I aint bashing you, this play already made me over 50%, cheers guys
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Im telling you right now i have nothing to do with a group play. I posted on this when the MACD crossed and it had what like 20k in volume oh wow really front loaded. And i also sold at .019 and bought in most at .013 and .018 and had an average of .015 and i only bought 22,000 shares when i had posted back when i got in so don't even start bashing this stock. with 200k in volume this is in no way a group play. you have to be kidding me because if i was a group player i would load the boat! And if you don't believe anything about my selling prices i will post to prove buying and selling! I am just and average trader that knows why to buy and hold. I own over 30 companies that i buy and hold for a run at some point! May take months but i'll hold. I just buy where i think there is decent support. tell me if you don't believe me and i will post all buys and sells!
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did i not say this is not an investment and also not to chase it and i also said that when it was at high of day that the indicators were maxing out. Is that not saying that the run is slowing down...If i was pumping a group play i would be still saying its a buy and hold. Not once did i say anything about buying above .02. For all i know this could run tomorrow easy because it will hit a few scans tonight. Im out though. I just want to post my knowledge on the stocks i buy and try to help others make money also. If i was out messing with people i would not be respected!
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myself and i'm sure some of the others here are or were in the same situation.. honestly if i knew or thought there was a group like the one Paramedic81 mentioned involved from days maybe even weeks ago.. ofcourse with the reputation that they have i wouldn't have even thought or considered buying into this and so in hind-sight maybe wasn't such a great idea.
however.. i just happen to think though more than that it was front-loaded.. more like they were STUCK from the former run and used all this sudden attention (lucky for them) to Get the Heck Out! ..i can tell you that is sure how it felt in this mornings attempt.
i'm telling you.. if they were not Stuck-Holders from who knows when i'm sure they wouldn't have demonstated such fear as soon as the day come when they were Blessed w/such Money Flow as today. Whoever they were.. & Whatever the case may be.. little did they know they had absolutely No reason to feel they had to fight it.... if these ppl. had clue about charting they'd understand that Today was First Day (day 1) of something potentialy Huge confirmed with vol./nice buying pressure set to easily climb toward a HOD close. lol
oneday when you'll decide to Pay Attention.. you'll realize that when i'm on something it's beacuse i really do see nice potential and fully intend to finsh what i start which is common to all.. to realize certain target pps. and make a nice profit! so imo take it as a compliment and Hold Tight.. That's it/It's that simple...
..so oK understood.....in this case maybe i was alittle late the party.. but just so you all know.. when i buy i post early and so from where ever that point may be and for whatever reason..Rest Assured...It Ain't Over!
You Can't Stop a Traaaaaaain!!
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uncle buck I am not going out at you, I am looking at other posters on this topic and they know who I amean, well uncle buck I am glad you are just the average trader who buys and sells, and used your charts to come to a conclusion that this is good, however I imagine it hit your charts, once you saw the volume come in? and the strong RSI? as a daytrader who scans hundreds of stocks, I am curious tho why you brought in around .013 with no volume really? again im not bashing you, but this is a group play right now Uncle Buck, so if you are out, I highly doubt you will be going back in?
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so can you tell me why this has potential? i mean JMICHAEL you are in the room with Momo and the group, you know it's a group play, sitting here typing about how it looks good on charts and stuff, that's a load of crap. I'm looking at the SEC documents, and nothing has been done for this company since July, oh, and it had a spike in September when they ran it there too, look I'm not gonna sit here and type, I mean Uncle buck you brought at .013, (say 20,000 shares), okay so you put 260 dollars into this stock approximately, and not much more, so I take it, you love the charts, but you only put in a couple hundred dollars? and you sold at .019... so that would be 380 bux, however avg was .015, so with that your buy in and buy out, aprrox 60 bux profit minus commissions
Now Jmichael you talk about the money train and yet you made a couple hundred bux if that, why is that the money train? I have a list of all the buys and sells and I'm guessing no one even put 500 bux into this stock, but yet it's awesome on charts?
sorry if i show skeptism but why is this a good buy, so again Jmichael you are in on a group play, making a couple hundred bucks and you wanna start saying it's a train run??
im really lost, I just look at plays all week like MSEP, DNAG, SWKJ, where you can put in a couple grand and actually walk about with 25-50% profit same day.....
I'm suprised when you sit in chat rooms and talk about how you brought in on a group play and now you want to deny it? why is that? this is why I start posting back and take such a strong stance, yeah this stock is getting on radar because the volume and the great planning on the bid/ask upticks, it goes off on day traders radars, and then they see message boards in here saying buy buy buy!!!!
Okay if your gonna post fine, but the second I call it a group play and it is dont friggin try and defend something and sit here saying it isn't that's just lame, make your posts, bring up the charts, but when you know it's a group play, just friggin call it
quote:Originally posted by Paramedic81: so can you tell me why this has potential? i mean JMICHAEL you are in the room with Momo and the group, you know it's a group play, sitting here typing about how it looks good on charts and stuff, that's a load of crap. I'm looking at the SEC documents, and nothing has been done for this company since July, oh, and it had a spike in September when they ran it there too, look I'm not gonna sit here and type, I mean Uncle buck you brought at .013, (say 20,000 shares), okay so you put 260 dollars into this stock approximately, and not much more, so I take it, you love the charts, but you only put in a couple hundred dollars? and you sold at .019... so that would be 380 bux, however avg was .015, so with that your buy in and buy out, aprrox 60 bux profit minus commissions
Now Jmichael you talk about the money train and yet you made a couple hundred bux if that, why is that the money train? I have a list of all the buys and sells and I'm guessing no one even put 500 bux into this stock, but yet it's awesome on charts?
sorry if i show skeptism but why is this a good buy, so again Jmichael you are in on a group play, making a couple hundred bucks and you wanna start saying it's a train run??
im really lost, I just look at plays all week like MSEP, DNAG, SWKJ, where you can put in a couple grand and actually walk about with 25-50% profit same day.....
I'm suprised when you sit in chat rooms and talk about how you brought in on a group play and now you want to deny it? why is that? this is why I start posting back and take such a strong stance, yeah this stock is getting on radar because the volume and the great planning on the bid/ask upticks, it goes off on day traders radars, and then they see message boards in here saying buy buy buy!!!!
Okay if your gonna post fine, but the second I call it a group play and it is dont friggin try and defend something and sit here saying it isn't that's just lame, make your posts, bring up the charts, but when you know it's a group play, just friggin call it
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what I mean Uncle is I guess for the work of scanning all the stocks out there and all the bounce plays, momementum stocks, you chose a stock to buy in at that has barely even moved, and when you first brought in, it had no movement, no upside and an extremely risky move, unless volume came in, I'm not making fun or poking at you, I just want to understand your perspective, I mean I scan stocks, look at microcap, set filters, sit in chat rooms and channels, I get a pretty good idea of what's going and what isnt, I also look to see what can gap and bounce or play, but this stock? hmmm anyways get back when you can, thanks
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and for the last time stop saying im a basher, thats weak, bashing means I'm totally against the stock, I never said that, read my posts, I never said to the moon or this stock is gonna get killed or drop like a bucket. I am calling out everyone who sits in group chat rooms and get's in on group plays to actually let everyone else who reads these boards have a right to know exactly what they are getting in on....
If you brought because you like the stock, and even tho it has a low O/S and event tho it's probably been played before *cough cough* september, and tho there was no news in almost 5 months, thats fine.... just give a reason to your buying
nothing more worse then people saying great chart, group play, buy now, or you will regret? I'm gonna regret what? getting in on a pump? haha well if I aint a bag holder fine with me.
You know why I hold such a strong grudge against group players? because instead of finding stocks that have potential (granted half the companies that run are POS) but the fact that so many investors look for a stock to invest in, and far too many people are greedy to say, buy in this, let me take that money out of your hand right now....
I have played group plays, again I never said I didnt, but when I get a bunch of responses that don't even answer my question, and then the best thing is when the group runner, wants to swear and curse at you all day and wants to fight? how childish are you?
I'm sure someone will come to this group players defense, so from now on, if you are in the group, and many of you I know because I see you there all the time, because I sit in the room and watch the group plays, I highly suggest you mention it's a group play? fair deal?
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uncle buck I read all your posts that you made on this thread, I only wanted to some clarification on some aspects, I'm sure you brought of your own free will, and if my posts offened you I apologise
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Mr Paramedic81 You need to Shut Your Mouth right about Now about things You have No idea about what you're talking.. Are we clear?
fyi I am Not in the room with nomi.. that would be Was.... only took about a week for me to figure out i want Absolutely Nothing to do with his Cons and Scams.
i hardly know this person and would much appreciate it if You and Anyone else can Get It Right!
apparantly you are full of it for even coming up w/such a Lie w/No clue about who belongs to what and where. Stop trying to figure it all out yo! your probably damaging your brain!
don't know what your motive is.. but if it's a following you are looking for.. Way to Go!! i don't even know you and have yet to hear anything good from or about you at all.
lol ohh pls. tell me.. where do i sign?!!
pleeeeese.... what the hells is your problem? imo deal with some of Your Own Issues cause it's very evident. You got 'em Pal
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WOW.. all I can say is WOW!! I couldn't sleep, so decided to read some of the posts from this evening. I know I shouldn't get involved, and don't PLAN to get involved, but since this IS a PUBLIC forum, I just want to say how this looks to a bystander, or someone who might just be trolling thru the forums.
Buck, honestly it did look like you were pumping the stock there. I know! You were excited, cheered the stock on, even gave the warning that it wasn't a hold!! You got in early, and made a profit, and I agree that anything over 100.00 is a decent profit with the pennies. Heck! wish I made 100.00 with all of my holdings!
Paramedic.. wow.. what can I say here. You went on and on and on.. You say you sit in some chat room with Momo or Nomo or whatever the heck his name is. To me that says, you get in on the runs he starts, then when you're out, you turn around and bash those that see something in the charts, or the low float, or something that their scanners hit, and then announce it on the boards. To ME, anytime more than 2 or 3 people buy into a stock, its a 'group play'. Geeesh.. even on the big boards. Some analyst announces that 'INTC' is a 'buy now', or BOT is a 'sell now'.. and everyone jumps in and buys, OR sells, on ONE persons opinion! Isn't that the same thing? Why is it different here? There are boards for the big stocks too.. there are boards for the IPO's, and our boards. HOW is that different?? Also, if you THINK about it, I'm willing to bet that MANY in here see something about some stock that looks GOOD to them. They buy, then they announce it on this forum in a thread they started, or whatever other forums they are on. Arent they 'front-loading' too? Forgive me if I misunderstood you, but you were acting like a dog with a bone, that won't let go! Just one post after another, and honestly it does look like you're trying to smear someones name. One last question.. You said, and I quote: "Okay if your gonna post fine, but the second I call it a group play and it is dont friggin try and defend something and sit here saying it isn't that's just lame, make your posts, bring up the charts, but when you know it's a group play, just friggin call it". What does this mean? Everytime YOU think that something is a 'group play' YOU are going to announce it? And everyone is supposed to sell all their holdings on YOUR word? Are YOU an analyst? So if YOU don't like a person, if YOU don't like a stock, if YOU don't like the way the wind is blowing, if YOU don't like that you didn't get in early, YOU will announce that Uncle Buck, or Jmichael or Joe Schmoe is starting a 'group play'? No offense, but just from what I quoted from YOU, I lost any trust or belief I MIGHT have gotten from your opinions or thoughts. Like I said, look at all the threads. In all honesty, they are all group plays. well.. cept for the ones where there are no responses IN the thread at all! Again, forgive me if I misunderstood, but for anyone coming in and seeing this.. all I can say is WOW! it looks VERY vindictive for whatever reasons! And that one section I quoted... I lost any respect I might have gained from your posts!
Jmichael, I've seen your posts in this allstock forum for quite awhile now. I've seen you cheering stocks along, posting bids/asks, L2's, and charts, which I'm sure many appreciate greatly.. I know I do. I don't remember if you've ever actually PUMPED a stock, but if you have, well, I'm sure we all have at one time or another, whether it's called pumping or cheering on, I guess it depends on the readers definition of the word. I asked about who Momo was a few months ago, and learned alot about him in this forum, thanks to everyone who answered me. You said you were in a room with him for about a week and that takes alot to admit it, in my opinion! From what I hear, he even puts the screws to his own little following. Anyway, thank you for your honesty, and just keep posting those posts with the Bids/Asks, L2s, and charts! please! And I don't know about others, but I truly respect you for your honesty. One last comment.. I KNOW personally, how hard it is to defend oneself in a paper battle, especially against someone who blindly throws darts in all directions.
These were all my personal opinions. And like I said, it's a public forum, and I am JUST giving a 'bystanders' thoughts.. so if you DO respond, Buck, P'med, or Jmichael, I probably won't answer, since I'm not getting into a war of words with anyone in here.
Anyway, before I really start rambling, and because it's getting SO late... I need sleep.
Everyone have a safe and Happy Thanksgiving!
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i am the anti-scam and I will expose all pumpers, why are your posts Jmichael on certain stocks right as Momo and his clows start a group run? I've seen you post on various boards, and some stocks (not all, and each and everytime it's when that crap hole website makes another group play!!!!!
if you are not and let's say you are right and involved in these group plays and you think his site is full of cons and scams, well then I'm glad to hear that, I am defending all those new to investing,
maybe I lashed out too hard, but I intend to expose that site and his group players for every penny they are worth!!!!
somethings dont add up, I noticed no one responded to my questions, but whatever.... I should make list of everyone buying in on his group plays and trying to run it
One thing you have to admit is that chart is only good because it's a group play.... dont fool yourself on that one.
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actually Uncle bucks post first on this was a month before that group ran it, so that's why I say my staunch approach isnt directly aimed at you, I asked a couple questions directly, no not everything is a group play, however when a certain website runs plays then I think it's worthy to call it a group play and to inform others.... and now a couple people I am defending who did loose money through the website who read my posts are whining and crying, next group play they think people will read this and buy in, unreal, whatever.... last time I defend anyone, everyone buy into this!!! stick all your friggin money into and enjoy, screw this, im outta here Jmichael like I said I know you post on other stocks, my apologies if I sounded rude, to everyone else, just a heads up on that room, and if you play the stocks your own demise not mine, no point warning people anymore, no one gives a ****... good night
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WOW this has gotten blown way out of proportion!!! Guys i bought and a friend bought into UTSYF because it was one of those play that don't usually get volume and there is no L2. Thats why i only through in a couple hundred. I knew it was a huge risk, thats why i put in such a low amount. THe reason why i sold at .019 was because when i noticed yesterday that it was getting volume i realized way to late that my order set at .019 for months was going through. That the only reason why i sold... i didn't mean to i just forgot that i had my order set already just incase. Guys i do this all the time. I buy into a stock and keep buying into one that i know will in days or a few weeks will give me 100%. I do it all the time! I did it with PFMS bought in at .023 and sold the other day at .078 I held that one for months and made good money! Im doing the same thing with MLAR.. that one is going to be huge! You buy and buy and wait and wait till it moves on its own. I call them patience plays. Im not fighting or arguing with any one of you guys because i don't care what you think about me or the way i trade. Its fare to buy and hold. I wouldn't be respected with the pumping and dump onto people. Its totally easy to realize whos dumping and pumping. thats it for now have a good day guys
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Guys it is extreme hard to move stocks.. The ones that move for me are ones that the Market Makers let go and have never held one bck yet for me. I win almost all the time like 99% but it takes awhile compared to the scalpers here that get in and out in the same day. thats way to risky for me!
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quote:Originally posted by uncle_buck: Im just RIDING THE TREND AND CALLEN THEM AS I SEE UM!
I don't think you need to explain yourself or your trading style to anyone, especially to someone who sounds like a raving lunatic. Legitimate questions are one thing, but total hostile accusations should just be ignored. Don't fret it. I saw your post months ago. If it works for you, more power to ya. If a group decided to run it, even more power to ya for being in already. Don't let the pip squeak get you defensive.
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Sorry for all the posts but i have 154 posts and i have had 10 people rate me and I have 5 stars. If i was pumping and dumping im sure there would be a few that knew i was doing that and would rate me with 1 star because i pissed them off or just talked them into buying and they lost money. I never say buy or sell. i tell people why "I" buy and sell!
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agreed viqutorious.. also appreciate your stand-point Superbee383...
and thanks uncle_buck.. trueth is if i hadn't seen this board Tuesday (this week) i still wouldn't know that this stock even exist period.
i also picked up a small amount (15k) at .015 seeing that according to chart and if history repeated itself as often times does, (WORC for example most recently) it could make it back to the .04 & .05 levels again.
i brought the charts.. ppl. followed and i'm sure thanked you for the shares at .019..
..ofcourse this imo was much bigger than just you u_b in terms of pasting buying as it turns out with all the selling in the low and mid .02 area in which those persons imho will be back.
you see All these people Can't be Crazy.... i mean really.. there does appear to be some kind of awesome potential here even if the chart needs to reset back at .01 because last i checked there were what like 9 mms there on bid? wow now i'm sure they are all lined up to risk and take part in the next leg 'scam pump run up to whatever'.... yea right lmao... btw reminds me med.. i went back and checked...hmmm can't seem to find anywhere on this thread where someone was saying BUY! BUY! BUY! rotf.. maybe some of these little board-sheep you're so trying to protect need to learn how to trade! lol (..was brought here early)
watch the vererans imo uncle_buck is right.. he is well respected and a great asset to the Allstock community!
i much welcome and dearly appreciate any input from those who are actually making money and on a consistant reg. bases as i choose to only run with The Best!!
like you said u_b.. when the mm's are ready they're ready...but until then it's accumulation time! ;0)
ohh yea and incase ya didn't know....
name's jmichael...like 50 Cent! 'I ain't going nowhere so you can get to know me!'
ah-hha ~Hate It or Luv It!~
jm / jmichael1974 (yahoo)
~Indeed uncle_buck.. Happy Thanksgiving All! see yazz on Friday!~
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I would have to agree with Superbee and Uncle_buck when they said "wow... this has gotten blown way out of proportion." Where's Jerry Springer!?!
Not that anyone asked me for my opinion, but here's my favorite Paramedic post so far in this read: "look I'm not gonna sit here and type," (5th paramedic post on page 2) That was hilarious, especailly if you see how many more characters he typed after saying that!
Seriously Paramedic, I can appreciate your intentions of saving the world and I wish you the very best. Perhaps a better use of everyone's time might be you securing a website and listing all potential investing scams. I'm sure there are millions who would forward you faxes they receive and it would allow you to have a centralized repository for your data. Imagine the countless hours you'd save yourself and all of us! Then you can cite your website in your signature and those interested can visit your haven. Not to mention it would help keep messages threads "on topic".
Only a suggestion since you shared your time and insight with us. Always end on a win-win solution, I wouldn't want you to walk away from this experience empty handed.
Uncle_Buck: I've never seen this guy over pump and I think he's a good fella -- I mean, even when he was hyping this stock, he was still offering words of caution, and you'll note that on this thread he even told me not to chase the stock, etc. He picked a stock, the stock went up. He stayed optimistic about the stock after it came down, but made sure to note that it was very risky. You can't get more trustworthy than the way he's been carefully handling this.
Jmichael7: I don't know what this guy is or was doing on the "other boards," but he puts in a lot of hard work on the AllStocks board -- adding charts and info to all sorts of different threads and not just the threads he starts. On the one hand, I'm not a 100% believer in pure chart plays, to begin with, as charts and trends are open to manipulation (especially with pennies), but I always like seeing Jmichael's chart analyses. If he's secretly been pumping and dumping, I wouldn't know anything about it and, really, think that his posts always seem trustworthy, if maybe a little one-sided in some cases (but how many of us aren't a little one-sided when we think we've found a winner, really, right?).
Paramedic81: I'm glad there are anti-scammer guys out there like Paramedic81, trying to root out the scammers that might be crossing from one board to the next with the intention of pumping AllStock users based on group plays already created and front-loaded elsewhere... I'm glad that there are people keeping track of the group plays and letting us know about it. That's all very cool. But the above thread did seem to explode into a personal dog-fight of sorts, one in which Uncle_Buck certainly seemed like a completely innocent bystander..... and if an anti-scammer has evidence that certain posters are scamming, then it'd help if some hyperlinks were included back to the threads on the other baords where we could see things for ourself.... But, still, the info that was provided is of interest and will be kept in mind in the future.
HOWEVER, let's get back to talking about UTSYF .... keeping the current changes in the PPS in mind and the possibility of a group play or a bunch of people cashing out from a past play in mind, where do we stand now? How's the future look for UTSYF .... or have we already past it's prime for now?
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Also, let me say this: I'm anxiously awaiting Uncle_Buck's next set of picks. And the picks, charts, and DD of Hermes, Von, and JMichael7, too. We're not seeing enough new picks around here these days from the more reliable bunch, which is too bad 'cause it's such a good season for trading...
(I've been hunting around for some new runners myself, but so far haven't found anything I'm thrilled with... If I find anything good, I'll post it....)
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Lucas - I am new to this forum, and I would recomend that you check out the VCTY thread. JMichael7 and others have posted some excellent DD on there, and it looks to me like it is READY TO GO, early next week.
If you look at the last set of L2's, it does not include an additional 1MM+ shares that were traded after hours. Totalling over 2.2MM for the day, which is RECORD volume in the last 5 years..
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Thank you for the kind words Lucas. As you suggested, back to UTSYF.
The chart is tough to read at best. Based on the indicators I use most, UTSYF will probable sleep here if not slowly return to .013/.011. This being a low floater, only a few good traders will capitalize when the inpatient exit. This truely is an example of a "patience play" and a sleeper stock.
What I find most interesting is the eod level 2's for UTSYF. Under the right circumstances (buying pressure and timing) it might be possible for this stock to reach .10 once the .05's are gone.
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Patience Play's is all i do. Load and hold! works very well. As everyone is selling off i am buying all the way down and then when it goes side ways i load even more. Then WAIT!!! The time waiting PAYS OFF
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